Don’t confuse the Americans mate…they don’t know where Hawai’i is let alone changing names on tools. Anyway the Yanks would be pissed because the handyman tool brand Milwaukee didn’t win !!!!
@@danielp3345 I guess that Metabo and Metabo HPT are different brands which just owned by the same group. Metabo is German based company while Metabo HPT ( Hitachi Power Tools) is Hikoki.
@@danielp3345 they used to be called hitachi here as well! Prior to hitachi selling off their “Koki” tool division they purchased the German tool company Metabo. They actually rebanded to Metabo HPT (“Hitachi Power Tools”). What’s great is an American company actually owns Hikoki, so they’re Japanese tools owned by an American company sold under a German name in the United States 🙃😂. The actual German Metabo is sold here as well and the two system are not compatible so it’s quiet confusing.
I want to make a disclaimer that with a lot of these tests, there are multiple variables that could influence the results. If I was to repeat all these tests, there could be slightly difference results. I also want to correct what I said at the begging of the video. I didn’t buy the 10 piece AEG kit, that was gifted to me by AEG for a previous video I made.
my theory about the grinders on the threaded rod being easy after the first cut may be because the rod is hotter and therefore cuts easier, just food for thought.
Hikoki is pretty underrated compared to the bigger brands. They lack in how many tools you can get outside of Japan. My cousin liked my hikoki tools but he preferred the range offerings of Milwaukee the best so went with them instead. I know hikoki are trying to bring more tool variety to country’s outside of Japan but they have to get past the huge monopoly the big 3 have (Milwaukee, makita & dewalt).
Love a good Aussie channel doing well! Keep up the vids! Love these videos, well made edited nicely.. indepth.. only can get better from here... Great work. Like your diy vids too that's how I found you initially
Great video mate. I got 18v hikoki when I started my apprenticeship two years ago and still going strong while workmates have had multiple Milwaukee tools fail and be replaced repeatedly. I was super keen on the AEG limited edition but you have given me something to think about now 😂 keep up the great work
The battery test between all brand tools was the eye opener for me milwaukee 5amp being the most expensive 5amp of the rest was by far the worst and comparing it to AEG one which was so much better being owned by the same company and costs less was a shock
What impressed me the most was the display set up in the background just using a couple of ladders. 👍🤘🏻also you know what else impressed me … you had the sun come out in Victoria 😂 …… FM …
Great video. Super effort testing all of those tools and quite fair testing really. Many of those tools would benefit from higher capacity batteries and there are better tools from each company but it was fair as you tested the kits as they came for the most.
Can't comment on other brands but after using a huge range of makita tools professionally with my old man for 16 years, I have to say they are so reliable. I don't think any of his Makitas have died, his impact driver is over 15 years old and only needed the brushes changing once, it's been through the ringer, used in the rain, dropped from 5 storeys, and is still going strong. I think one battery might have died once. He bought two new SDS brushless drills recently, I said why two? He said 'because they're so nice' lol. The brushless LXT range are worth every penny in my opinion.
Good test and people are missing the point. You purchased and tested the comparable package deals against one another. That’s how most of us get into a product line. I own every product line you tested and have favorite tools spread across all of the manufactures. You did a great job showing people what the quality you can get for a specific amount of money as well as the deals and incentives offered by tool manufactures when you purchase kits. Thanks for the effort. Now a subscriber.
That is some SERIOUS work you done there, and love the detail on the handling on the tracksaws. Its kinda nice but same time annoying to see there is no 'one that rules em all', they each have their pro and cons, their ups and downs, specialy the tracksaw seems to be very focused on what type to actualy doing. Im still at the 18VAlliance Bosch tools, initialy i though of just upgrading into the Profession (aka blue), but seeing all those adapters now for several batteries, i serious love the black color of AEG.
Told you lads Hikoki was weapon! Doesn’t stop at just these tools either they smash with all their gear bar the first gen multi tool it’s not the best and loud as heck but does still go alright, I haven’t tried out their second gen multi yet. Well done Dave, cheers as always mate love your work! 👊🏼🍻
Great video mate, had Milwaukee for years and looking at making a switch. Never considered AEG stuff, but after seeing this might be giving it a crack especially at the price. Gained a subscriber 👍
Today I've by chance come across this video, your chanel & I liked it very much! On top of the useful content about the tools and their comparison, I enjoy your australian pronunciation and can improve my English)! All in all thank you for your job about this particular video! I can imagine how tired you were after that I'm subscribing... Great wishes from Stuttgart, Germany
For anyone that doesnt know hikoki is the rebrand of Hitachi. They make fantastic tools, worth looking out for in pawn shops and the like. Have a 9 inch circular saw that survived a shed blaze and still runs a treat after 30+ years in service. Same goes for the old Japanese made makita tools.
Hy awesome test! Fiy Bosch has new pro-core batteries, they last longer and have more output. It is made to perform well with the brushless tools. Would have changed the whole testing and they might outperformed some other tools. I don’t really know why Bosch tool are sold with the old batteries in Australia. In Germany they only come with the new pro core batteries. If you are up for it you could get one of them and try some of the tools again. I am sure that the saw will perform much better
Fantastic vid, and right in time for my planned pruchase for one of these kits as im tired of breaking my current consumer DIY level tools (Im no tradie). The AEG seems to be the best value, and faily hardy (like yourself i like the feel of the framing nailer as well). Love the channel.
Nice job mate. No premium tools hilti festool ? Have been long time user of hilti tools and love them but I have my eye on the new festool drill set looks pretty impressive
Excellent video! Obviously you know that all the brands have different models for each tool in different price and power categories, just wanted to point it out. A prime example is the dewalt drill being a compact cheap model, whereas the milwaukee is their top of the line that comes with a side handle.
At least here in the USA, Bosch has been selling upgraded versions of those tools and batteries for over a year. Those old Bosch tools are basically no longer available. Only the new versions
The amount of people that didn't watch the last video saying the tests are unfair is pretty amazing. Dudes testing kits, he didn't buy individual tools 😅 Anyway good to see a fellow Aussie testing the tools instead of another of the countless guys from usa in their shed that don't appear to use tools to earn money. Hard to get a baseline of how tools perform watching them do weird shit that no one does.
I get that the test is supposed to be fair in that you use the same value from each brand but the bottom of the range makita gear isnt great. I have a TD173 from Japan, Makita's top tier stuff is fantastic.
Another person that doesnt know how to use a reciprocating saw looked like couple of those are orbital and cant city fast backwards. Pretty sure the hikoki and bosch. Orbital ones are streets ahead of normal ones.
You used a longer impact bit then all the others for the hikoki test which gives it less torque than the others… mate seems like this video is heavily biased and you should be adding a disclaimer at the start of it saying you are sponsored by AEG
Thanks for the video! As a Milwaukee man I have to say though the impacts have so much power they're useless at doing fine jobs like nipping in screws to gyprock and even villaboard. If you try to put a kitchen together its nearly impossible to use it. Plus it has so much power for normal screws if it hits a knot it'll break the tip without hesitation. For that reason still have a faithful old Makita that's great at the fine jobs 👍 great test though thanks
Rarely use an impact driver to screw off bugles, find a drill on low speed gets a better bite, especially when doing new purlins to old pergola frames (especially oregon) I guess it would be to save your wrists, remember almost snapping mine off with the corded drills doing purlins back in the day.
Hi Dave! Could you put a List of everything used in video description for affiliate money making opportunities. I’m looking to buy your ear defenders used in this video as you’re clearly testing them for this video. 😂
Great video! Just need to say my two cents. I get that it was all in combo kits, but they are a bit missleading, with the milwaukee and Dewalt recip saws, seeing as they only had the tigersaw, not the bayonett saw. Also the Dewalt dcf850 is in the atomic line, while most the other impacts were top line. Also looked like dewalt had the atomic drill, and not the topline. Keep up the good work though!
About why the first grinder cut always took longer... first grinder cut is into colder metal. As it heats it softens. This will also favour the tools towards the end of the test as the bar will retain some heat from before.. Not complaining, hindsight is a thing..., awesome work..
Bosch's starter kit is really old kit. The impact and the drill driver are brushed and only the circular saw is brush less. The circular saw is good but you're right to saw it lacks torque. Bosch has just bought out another impact to catch up with its competitors. Milwaukee has really tried to improve their design and tool quality lately. One to watch. Hikoki quality is also good but they only seem to sell their whole range in Japan. Makita is a good all rounder and I would probably go with them if I was starting again in the UK due to the range but it would be xgt not 18V . A good review, thanks.
I have a few Bosch tools and can tell you all those are brushless except for the blower. But as you mentioned some of those were old like the impact driver and that's also the entry level angle grinder. The drill is very capable, 2nd only to the BiTurbo one but all other brands except DeWalt were using their top of the line drills. That circ saw is from last year but mid tier and the recip saw is their newest, the rest are 2yrs or older. But the issue here is from Bosch trying to fit more value than performance in a kit.
Biturbo equals brushless. I have that impact driver too. I thought it was brushed. 🤷 Anyway basically what I'm saying is that many of these Bosch tools are a generation or two old now.
@@planespeaking yeah, mixing a top of the line recip saw with their 2nd best drill, mid tier circ saw and 3 other entry level tools is quite confusing. I guess the more research we do as consumers, the better
Davedoescarpentry as an apprentice needing to buy a framing nail gun. What would you go for? I have milwalkee tools so far but that nail gun just doest sit right with me and hard to hand on youre belt? Would you go a second hand paslode or you reckon the AEG is worth getting? Cheers.
I have the AEG, Dewalt, Milwaukee and Metabo nail guns. My favorite is the Metabo for speed and quality but it is a bit bulky. The AEG is my second choice. The Milwaukee is poorly balanced and the Dewalt is slow with old technology.
Anyone have any insight on which of these platforms would be best to get into if someone were starting their career, but wanted to steer clear of Chinese made/owned products as much as possible? I know Milwaukee and Ridgid(AEG) are out of the question, so im more curious of the others.
Big ol' myth, been around forever. Rohm and Jacobs both say this is NOT a feature of theirs or any chucks on the commercial power tool market. turning it back begins to disengage the ratchet.
I know everyone has their favorites on tool brands but in my opinion DeWalt and Milwaukee are the kings of tools. I personally prefer DeWalt that’s just because that’s the brand I’ve grown up with until recently granted I’m about to turn 15. You guys should let me know what brand you prefer and why I’m curious
Can't believe you didn't go in orbital mode on the hikoki. You switched to it on the Bosch. And also having the blade the normal way on saws with orbital mode. I know for a fact you would have shaved off a ton of time if you did that.
Yea i thought that was crazy too. that saw in particular is flippin impressive. every time i hand it to someone they're always in awe of how much power that thing has. will absolutely chew through stuff like it's butter.
Great comparison Dave. I don’t know where you find the time to do these. I see you ordered the tests on the leaderboard so the Milwaukee fanboys got excited early on.
40:10 what happened with the timer? Jumped from 20 to 27? Also mate, this video is incredible. You answered questions that probably everyone is asking.
I rechecked the unedited version and I messed that up. I made a mistake there and makita did get 20 seconds. I’ll need to properly check, but I think that would change makita and Boschs overall ranking to be even. I will go through all the tests and recheck every result, I’m sorry for getting that wrong.
@@DaveDoesCarpentry no complaints here mate. You’ve done an awesome effort. Just figured id point it out in case I missed something :) Really wish though makita in general would step up their game a bit, feel like they’ve fallen from their spot a bit (aside from their prices…) I’ve got the 10 piece AEG myself earlier this year (though I totally missed out on the tax bonuses!) and couldn’t be happier. Cheers
i like milwaukee tools but their circular saw is really weak, im not sure if they have a newer model but my impressions were the same as yours which makes them a hard sell for carpentry. I think the way hikoki works is some tools are 18v and some are 36v, you have to look at the skin to see but the battery works for both.
The AEG feels good for a budget brand. Dewalt rarely screws up ergonomics across their platform. Dewalt is always my first choice when I have to use the tool for a long period or need multiple tools with the same battery platform. I like the feel of both Makita and Hikoki but they have a limited number of offerings compared to others.
If you guys had the newest “pouch cell” batteries for the Dewalt and Milwaukee all of these tests would be blow-outs for Red and Yellow! The pouches are incredible and that’s coming from a Ridgid guy who’s deviated TTI hasn’t done them for orange yet!😢
He’s just using what the manufacturers put in their $1999 ish kits. His previous video shows this when he unboxes the tools (except the makita saw - which wasn’t supplied in the kit)
Well, Hikoki had the advantage of being the only 36V lineup and it shows as it came on top. Not sure what ypur complain is if this is what MFRs chose to put in their large tool kits. Bosch could've also offered a BiTurbo kit but there is none in his market (or not for the same price)
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Ha ha ha ha! First thing I thought too. 😂
Id love to know what they thought I was building 😅 hearing a screw go in and out a few hundred times
@@DaveDoesCarpentry small house
A lot of work went into this, well done 👍
Cheers mate, thanks for watching!
Agreed, easily the most detailed and thorough tool comparison I’ve seen on UA-cam🙌🏼🤙🏼
Mate ya don’t get enough credit for counting those cuts on the battery test
Thanks legend
For any other American viewers:
Hikoki = Metabo HPT (Lowes & Amazon)
AEG = Rigid (Home Depot)
Don’t confuse the Americans mate…they don’t know where Hawai’i is let alone changing names on tools. Anyway the Yanks would be pissed because the handyman tool brand Milwaukee didn’t win !!!!
Weird we have Metabo as another battery tool system in Australia besides Hikoki (which was previously sold as hitatchi here)
@@danielp3345 I guess that Metabo and Metabo HPT are different brands which just owned by the same group. Metabo is German based company while Metabo HPT ( Hitachi Power Tools) is Hikoki.
@@proudbacteria1373Hikoki was brought out by German giants Metabo awhile ago, hence the name change from hitchi tools to hikoki
@@danielp3345 they used to be called hitachi here as well! Prior to hitachi selling off their “Koki” tool division they purchased the German tool company Metabo. They actually rebanded to Metabo HPT (“Hitachi Power Tools”).
What’s great is an American company actually owns Hikoki, so they’re Japanese tools owned by an American company sold under a German name in the United States 🙃😂.
The actual German Metabo is sold here as well and the two system are not compatible so it’s quiet confusing.
Your comment on working with more of the hikoki tools just earned you a subscribe
I want to make a disclaimer that with a lot of these tests, there are multiple variables that could influence the results. If I was to repeat all these tests, there could be slightly difference results.
I also want to correct what I said at the begging of the video.
I didn’t buy the 10 piece AEG kit, that was gifted to me by AEG for a previous video I made.
We just appreciate this video and effort you went to. Massive step!
my theory about the grinders on the threaded rod being easy after the first cut may be because the rod is hotter and therefore cuts easier, just food for thought.
Hikoki is pretty underrated compared to the bigger brands. They lack in how many tools you can get outside of Japan. My cousin liked my hikoki tools but he preferred the range offerings of Milwaukee the best so went with them instead. I know hikoki are trying to bring more tool variety to country’s outside of Japan but they have to get past the huge monopoly the big 3 have (Milwaukee, makita & dewalt).
Love a good Aussie channel doing well! Keep up the vids! Love these videos, well made edited nicely.. indepth.. only can get better from here... Great work. Like your diy vids too that's how I found you initially
Great video mate. I got 18v hikoki when I started my apprenticeship two years ago and still going strong while workmates have had multiple Milwaukee tools fail and be replaced repeatedly. I was super keen on the AEG limited edition but you have given me something to think about now 😂 keep up the great work
Love my Hikoki tools hardly anyone has them so it’s always good at pack up time.
Triple hammer has always been the impact king for real work settings
The battery test between all brand tools was the eye opener for me milwaukee 5amp being the most expensive 5amp of the rest was by far the worst and comparing it to AEG one which was so much better being owned by the same company and costs less was a shock
Amazing video! wish i had been able to see this before buying my first batch of power tools! thanks so much, keep up the great work 🙏🏼👍
I watched this from start to finish.. awesome video and informative 👍🏻👍🏻
I throughly enjoyed this and appreciated the effort you’ve put in
What impressed me the most was the display set up in the background just using a couple of ladders. 👍🤘🏻also you know what else impressed me … you had the sun come out in Victoria 😂 …… FM …
Great video. Super effort testing all of those tools and quite fair testing really. Many of those tools would benefit from higher capacity batteries and there are better tools from each company but it was fair as you tested the kits as they came for the most.
Ty for the time and work u done. Awesome camera work and editing. Cant believe hikoki came first
Can't comment on other brands but after using a huge range of makita tools professionally with my old man for 16 years, I have to say they are so reliable. I don't think any of his Makitas have died, his impact driver is over 15 years old and only needed the brushes changing once, it's been through the ringer, used in the rain, dropped from 5 storeys, and is still going strong. I think one battery might have died once. He bought two new SDS brushless drills recently, I said why two? He said 'because they're so nice' lol. The brushless LXT range are worth every penny in my opinion.
Good test and people are missing the point. You purchased and tested the comparable package deals against one another. That’s how most of us get into a product line. I own every product line you tested and have favorite tools spread across all of the manufactures. You did a great job showing people what the quality you can get for a specific amount of money as well as the deals and incentives offered by tool manufactures when you purchase kits. Thanks for the effort. Now a subscriber.
Aeg seems good value these days, I remember them being garbage. Awesome video mate was very excited for it!
That is some SERIOUS work you done there, and love the detail on the handling on the tracksaws. Its kinda nice but same time annoying to see there is no 'one that rules em all', they each have their pro and cons, their ups and downs, specialy the tracksaw seems to be very focused on what type to actualy doing. Im still at the 18VAlliance Bosch tools, initialy i though of just upgrading into the Profession (aka blue), but seeing all those adapters now for several batteries, i serious love the black color of AEG.
That's take a lot of effort test. Thanks for sharing
Told you lads Hikoki was weapon! Doesn’t stop at just these tools either they smash with all their gear bar the first gen multi tool it’s not the best and loud as heck but does still go alright, I haven’t tried out their second gen multi yet.
Well done Dave, cheers as always mate love your work! 👊🏼🍻
The second gen is awesome and in the USA it's only $120
Great video mate, had Milwaukee for years and looking at making a switch. Never considered AEG stuff, but after seeing this might be giving it a crack especially at the price. Gained a subscriber 👍
Wow great comprehensive video!
Saw test was brilliant. Combining battery and ease of use is great to know
Today I've by chance come across this video, your chanel & I liked it very much!
On top of the useful content about the tools and their comparison, I enjoy your australian pronunciation and can improve my English)!
All in all thank you for your job about this particular video!
I can imagine how tired you were after that
I'm subscribing...
Great wishes from Stuttgart, Germany
For anyone that doesnt know hikoki is the rebrand of Hitachi. They make fantastic tools, worth looking out for in pawn shops and the like. Have a 9 inch circular saw that survived a shed blaze and still runs a treat after 30+ years in service. Same goes for the old Japanese made makita tools.
You are 💯 NOT comparing apples with apples! That DeWalt is the cheapest compact drill they have 👎
Hy awesome test! Fiy Bosch has new pro-core batteries, they last longer and have more output. It is made to perform well with the brushless tools. Would have changed the whole testing and they might outperformed some other tools. I don’t really know why Bosch tool are sold with the old batteries in Australia. In Germany they only come with the new pro core batteries. If you are up for it you could get one of them and try some of the tools again. I am sure that the saw will perform much better
Awesome video mate !
It seems like a lot of Milwaukee fans have commented here. 😂 I think people missed the whole premise that they are all tools within a $2000 combo kit.
Fantastic vid, and right in time for my planned pruchase for one of these kits as im tired of breaking my current consumer DIY level tools (Im no tradie). The AEG seems to be the best value, and faily hardy (like yourself i like the feel of the framing nailer as well).
Love the channel.
Hikoki/Metabo is underrated
Let's go Hikoki! 👏👏👏👏👏 I use Metabo HPT and love all their tools 💯
How can you compare the single hand skin recip saw to the 2 hand use saws. No wonder Milwaukee and Dewalt lost that
Exactly
The comparison is based on a similar sized kit each brand has provided for around the same price point, not the exact same tools are in each kit
He's just using what came in the kits, I agree the larger size milwaukee recip saw dominates makita at least, having used both extensivley
I guess a take away is maybe don't buy a kit?
@@PilgrimStanding kits can be great value but it’s important to work out what you are after. Most of these brands have many different kits available.
Good showcase of tests.
just commenting because i hope this video blows up :) lots of effort
Thanks!
Nice job mate. No premium tools hilti festool ? Have been long time user of hilti tools and love them but I have my eye on the new festool drill set looks pretty impressive
Excellent video! Obviously you know that all the brands have different models for each tool in different price and power categories, just wanted to point it out. A prime example is the dewalt drill being a compact cheap model, whereas the milwaukee is their top of the line that comes with a side handle.
The reason is the heat is annealing the metal slightly for the grinder test
one thing we've noticed at home is that Miwakee is better brand new and not good for long but Makita stay good for ages
At least here in the USA, Bosch has been selling upgraded versions of those tools and batteries for over a year.
Those old Bosch tools are basically no longer available. Only the new versions
The amount of people that didn't watch the last video saying the tests are unfair is pretty amazing.
Dudes testing kits, he didn't buy individual tools 😅
Anyway good to see a fellow Aussie testing the tools instead of another of the countless guys from usa in their shed that don't appear to use tools to earn money. Hard to get a baseline of how tools perform watching them do weird shit that no one does.
Amazing effort, thanks bro, Aeg is my favourite
As a hikoki fan boy i love the video
Can you please use the top of the range Makita impact like the other brands
I get that the test is supposed to be fair in that you use the same value from each brand but the bottom of the range makita gear isnt great. I have a TD173 from Japan, Makita's top tier stuff is fantastic.
He’s using what comes in the kits that are selling for $1999
@@michaellane999 I concur. Have the 172 cause that's all we can get in Australia with warranty and it is sublime.
Which brand/s would you say had the lowest sound and least vibration felt in hands?
Another person that doesnt know how to use a reciprocating saw looked like couple of those are orbital and cant city fast backwards.
Pretty sure the hikoki and bosch.
Orbital ones are streets ahead of normal ones.
True. It would have also been great if he had put these stacks of pinewood vertically to get a more natural grip and control of the tools
Is there a reason you hold your angle grinder backwards when you’re cutting ? Did it for most of them besides the AEG and Milwaukee
This is elite 🔥
You used a longer impact bit then all the others for the hikoki test which gives it less torque than the others… mate seems like this video is heavily biased and you should be adding a disclaimer at the start of it saying you are sponsored by AEG
Hikoki for life ❤ it's metabo in the US
Thanks for the video! As a Milwaukee man I have to say though the impacts have so much power they're useless at doing fine jobs like nipping in screws to gyprock and even villaboard. If you try to put a kitchen together its nearly impossible to use it. Plus it has so much power for normal screws if it hits a knot it'll break the tip without hesitation. For that reason still have a faithful old Makita that's great at the fine jobs 👍 great test though thanks
Rarely use an impact driver to screw off bugles, find a drill on low speed gets a better bite, especially when doing new purlins to old pergola frames (especially oregon) I guess it would be to save your wrists, remember almost snapping mine off with the corded drills doing purlins back in the day.
A lot of money went into this video
Hi Dave! Could you put a List of everything used in video description for affiliate money making opportunities. I’m looking to buy your ear defenders used in this video as you’re clearly testing them for this video. 😂
Would you choose speed if the tool was the heaviest?
Maybe try a bigger Bosch battery, because the drill and co only have the max power on 4.5 amp batterys
The hikoki skill saw is a beast. Hikoki knock it out the park.
Hikoki, Metabo here in the States... most underated tool brand. Lovem
Just found your channel. Keep up the great vids! 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thanks legend about to by some new tools and this helps alot, ps i bet ur neighbours loved this test hahahaha soryyyyy
Awesome!
Grease in the grinder head warming uo affects the first cut, I believe the battery warming up may also be a factor
I would love to see a DEWALT 54v a Mikita 40v and a hikoti 36v go head to head
Also curious mate, where would Metabo have held up compared to these you think?
Great video! Just need to say my two cents. I get that it was all in combo kits, but they are a bit missleading, with the milwaukee and Dewalt recip saws, seeing as they only had the tigersaw, not the bayonett saw. Also the Dewalt dcf850 is in the atomic line, while most the other impacts were top line.
Also looked like dewalt had the atomic drill, and not the topline.
Keep up the good work though!
Not many tools review Bosch and AEG, so I like the inclusion! (I'm still a big Makita guy)
About why the first grinder cut always took longer... first grinder cut is into colder metal. As it heats it softens. This will also favour the tools towards the end of the test as the bar will retain some heat from before.. Not complaining, hindsight is a thing..., awesome work..
Hay dave how is being and working as a carpenter in winter and then summer
Should have used a screw tip auger bit for the drill test so tis up to the power of the drill to pull the bit through.
Bosch's starter kit is really old kit. The impact and the drill driver are brushed and only the circular saw is brush less. The circular saw is good but you're right to saw it lacks torque. Bosch has just bought out another impact to catch up with its competitors. Milwaukee has really tried to improve their design and tool quality lately. One to watch. Hikoki quality is also good but they only seem to sell their whole range in Japan. Makita is a good all rounder and I would probably go with them if I was starting again in the UK due to the range but it would be xgt not 18V . A good review, thanks.
I have a few Bosch tools and can tell you all those are brushless except for the blower.
But as you mentioned some of those were old like the impact driver and that's also the entry level angle grinder. The drill is very capable, 2nd only to the BiTurbo one but all other brands except DeWalt were using their top of the line drills.
That circ saw is from last year but mid tier and the recip saw is their newest, the rest are 2yrs or older. But the issue here is from Bosch trying to fit more value than performance in a kit.
Biturbo equals brushless. I have that impact driver too. I thought it was brushed. 🤷 Anyway basically what I'm saying is that many of these Bosch tools are a generation or two old now.
@@planespeaking yeah, mixing a top of the line recip saw with their 2nd best drill, mid tier circ saw and 3 other entry level tools is quite confusing.
I guess the more research we do as consumers, the better
36 volt is where it's at
Davedoescarpentry as an apprentice needing to buy a framing nail gun. What would you go for? I have milwalkee tools so far but that nail gun just doest sit right with me and hard to hand on youre belt? Would you go a second hand paslode or you reckon the AEG is worth getting? Cheers.
I have the AEG, Dewalt, Milwaukee and Metabo nail guns. My favorite is the Metabo for speed and quality but it is a bit bulky. The AEG is my second choice. The Milwaukee is poorly balanced and the Dewalt is slow with old technology.
Anyone have any insight on which of these platforms would be best to get into if someone were starting their career, but wanted to steer clear of Chinese made/owned products as much as possible? I know Milwaukee and Ridgid(AEG) are out of the question, so im more curious of the others.
Pretty sure they all have tools manufactured in China. Depends on the tool and price point. Some have manufacturing in Europe/Japan.
Where is the 40v makita 18v is out dated now, awesome work can appreciate all the effort into the video.
They make new tools for both battery lines.
As far as I can tell Makita is still marketing LXT tools and handily outselling XGT and their eye watering prices
Is Hikoki’s impact the triple hammer?
I was so proud of using my whole set of Makita tools, but now I have some doubts about them.
They last forever and never break, best ergo. gen4 m18 impact should be recalled. You dont need all this new tech.
Stay proud mate, they will still be going in 10 years.
These kits don't always have the top of the line of each tool brand. I don't use makita, but that could be the case here.
When you tighten the chuck, take it back one click.. that’ll lock In the drill bit. Appreciate the time you’ve put in to make this video.
Big ol' myth, been around forever. Rohm and Jacobs both say this is NOT a feature of theirs or any chucks on the commercial power tool market. turning it back begins to disengage the ratchet.
Wish you did Makita 40v
I know everyone has their favorites on tool brands but in my opinion DeWalt and Milwaukee are the kings of tools. I personally prefer DeWalt that’s just because that’s the brand I’ve grown up with until recently granted I’m about to turn 15. You guys should let me know what brand you prefer and why I’m curious
Can't believe you didn't go in orbital mode on the hikoki. You switched to it on the Bosch. And also having the blade the normal way on saws with orbital mode. I know for a fact you would have shaved off a ton of time if you did that.
Yea i thought that was crazy too. that saw in particular is flippin impressive. every time i hand it to someone they're always in awe of how much power that thing has. will absolutely chew through stuff like it's butter.
Great comparison Dave. I don’t know where you find the time to do these.
I see you ordered the tests on the leaderboard so the Milwaukee fanboys got excited early on.
40:10 what happened with the timer? Jumped from 20 to 27?
Also mate, this video is incredible. You answered questions that probably everyone is asking.
I rechecked the unedited version and I messed that up. I made a mistake there and makita did get 20 seconds.
I’ll need to properly check, but I think that would change makita and Boschs overall ranking to be even.
I will go through all the tests and recheck every result, I’m sorry for getting that wrong.
@@DaveDoesCarpentry no complaints here mate. You’ve done an awesome effort.
Just figured id point it out in case I missed something :)
Really wish though makita in general would step up their game a bit, feel like they’ve fallen from their spot a bit (aside from their prices…)
I’ve got the 10 piece AEG myself earlier this year (though I totally missed out on the tax bonuses!) and couldn’t be happier.
Cheers
i like milwaukee tools but their circular saw is really weak, im not sure if they have a newer model but my impressions were the same as yours which makes them a hard sell for carpentry. I think the way hikoki works is some tools are 18v and some are 36v, you have to look at the skin to see but the battery works for both.
Fair play that's a fkn review and a half 👏
I get that this is a subjective question but how would you rate the ergonomics/comfort to use of these tools?
Yes it is subjective. I've own a lot of tools over the years and my favorites ergonomically is dewalt and metabo/hikoki
The AEG feels good for a budget brand. Dewalt rarely screws up ergonomics across their platform. Dewalt is always my first choice when I have to use the tool for a long period or need multiple tools with the same battery platform. I like the feel of both Makita and Hikoki but they have a limited number of offerings compared to others.
40:07 watch the time skip from 19 seconds to 27 seconds
I noticed that haha. Wonder why it's there. Did he explain or was it just him adding time?
Do a good review on the Hikoki Tracksaw
If you guys had the newest “pouch cell” batteries for the Dewalt and Milwaukee all of these tests would be blow-outs for Red and Yellow! The pouches are incredible and that’s coming from a Ridgid guy who’s deviated TTI hasn’t done them for orange yet!😢
I found AEG BSB 18BL LI-602C , but it looks different than your AEG , is it just a new look?
Never liked Milwaukee anyway Lol.. pretty happy with the AEG result as i have their tools, Cheers!
You are such a dummy ...they are made by the same company 🤣🤣
Would've got dewalts DCD800 or DCD999 for a fair comparison on the drills, although every brand always does stupid shit with thier combo kits
Hey Dave. Where abouts in Australia do you live? You in qld?
Lol, top of the range Milwaukee. Bottom of the range Makita, also the Hikoki, should be the triple hammer one
The triple hammer is designed for speed not for high torque impact ..... It would have done slower in the test
He’s just using what the manufacturers put in their $1999 ish kits. His previous video shows this when he unboxes the tools (except the makita saw - which wasn’t supplied in the kit)
Well, Hikoki had the advantage of being the only 36V lineup and it shows as it came on top. Not sure what ypur complain is if this is what MFRs chose to put in their large tool kits. Bosch could've also offered a BiTurbo kit but there is none in his market (or not for the same price)
You’re using the grinders in different directions
This test is for the most part is about the battery duty cycle.
Definitely not a comparison of same tier tools. Where is the dewalt 60v? Why are the recip saws mini?