As a 73 year old liberal, all I've ever wanted is medical care for all, good education for all, and good support systems for those in need. I've never virtue signaled, and didn't even know the term until you said it today. Not all liberals are elitest and preachy. It's a mistake to lump people together in a category. That said, I always appreciate your views and learn from them. Thank you.
I'm also a 73-year-old person who tries to pick and choose the best policies regardless the label, including what you've wanted. "Virtue signalling" is wingnut propaganda, and it saddens me that Frank Schaeffer is parroting. Is he trying to prove himself "cool", and above the rest of us mortals? That he has to prove he still has some hippie anti-establishment throbs left?
Preach it brother. You're fortunate you can get checked for cancer. As an artist I cannot afford health insurance and do not have the money for any heath issue. I'm okay with death but I find it sad ,the nation has money for funding war but not for Healthcare.
Thanks Mr. Schaffer, this needed to be said and needs to be heard by Democrats. Lifelong registered Democrat and labor guy. For decades I have been trying to tell my fellow Democrats that "you do not know how this sounds on the factory floor or in rural America, it is absolutely ruining our message". Chickens do indeed come home to roost.
Frank, glad you got good treatment there. I love Boston and appreciate the intellectual and cultural life there. I really appreciate your videos. Best, Mark
"If you don't stand up for children, you don't stand for much." ~ Marian Wright Edelman, American lawyer, activist, writer, and founder of the Children's Defense Fund. "Education is for improving the lives of others and for leaving your community and world better than you found it." ~ Marian Wright Edelman, American lawyer, activist, writer, and founder of the Children's Defense Fund. "If you don't like the way the world is, you charge it. You have an obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time." ~ Marian Wright Edelman, American activist for civil rights. She is the founder and president emerita of the Children's Defense Fund. She influenced leaders such as MLK Jr. to include children rights in the civil rights movement.
There's preaching going on on both side's Frank and we're all preaching to the choir. Neither side is completely right or wrong about our life experiences and the way we take in the world. Fundamentalist Christians, radical conservatives etc. are just as guilty of this narrow depiction of the world as are the liberals. We're ALL in this together and that has to be discovered at a much deeper level.
I appreciate you, Frank. I am a 78-year-old Canadian, and like you, I am a former evangelical and a cancer survivor (prostate & colon). Hopefully, sanity will prevail, but I am surprised and saddened by the Trumpian mindset of many Canadians, some of who would like Canada to become the 51st US state. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
This was the first video I found of you, and you're saying what I wish I could have said sooner. Thank you so much for putting it so succinctly and ending on a hopeful and grateful note. You're truly a good man.
Where we messed up is we let conservative media and the far right agenda create a narrative that “all” liberals were obsessed with the woke agenda, which isn’t true. Just because people decided to educate themselves to create a better life doesn’t make them elitist. Your argument is making a lot of assumptions about people and you are projecting a lot about people you don’t know. People who pulled themselves out of poverty to make a positive contribution to our country. We are angry too. We struggle financially, just like everyone else, due to income inequality and a system geared toward the rich. You act like liberals want to tell everyone how to live but look who is trying to control women, education and race dominance and wants to control all the money. Where liberals failed is they didn’t market their problem solving values effectively and assumed people would embrace peace and love for all (which just isn’t as sexy as macho bullying) and were not as assertive in the same dominate and crush model we see in conservative messaging. I like your commentary and I’m glad you’re getting people to think. Keep up the good work. The bottom line for everyone is we’re all in this together and everyone will be responsible for creating a more perfect union.
THANK YOU! You have expressed what I think as well. It’s shocks me really because I feel the same but don’t really express it. I’m with you. Thank you!
Thank you Frank you make so much sense, I’m so pleased I took the time to listen to you. I’m not an American and I don’t live in America but your comments and principles applies to everyone in every country thank you once again. Wishing you and yours a great healthy life. ❤️
I love you Frank, but you are completely off base here. I've seen you leaning this way for a while and I'll be frank (no pun intended). I've lost my enthusiasm for your content. I'll point out that I am no liberal elite. In fact, I'd likely be deemed a perfect maga candidate, by all measures, if not for having a moral compass and just enough education to have rejected the right wing con machine. You've completely fallen for the right's framing of the liberal left and 'elites'. The social justice issues you speak of are of a framing, and not based in reality. Very few very progressive lefties hold these views but they have been pushed to the outer perimeters of the 'left' while remaining under this tent. You making it sound as if Hillary or Kamala candidates ran their campaigns on any of these issues. They absolutely did not. I'm not one of them but I remained optimistic that equality could someday be reached, and their voices heard. I believe your stance actually puts yourself at least 10-15 degrees further right than I woud be, had I stayed in the life I previously led. I hung ot with the most country, uneducated folks, you could imagine. I liked these folks. I connected with them on a visceral level. I played country music in bars for almost 15 years. I grew up hanging out with wannabe cowboys and drinking beer, all throughout my youth. But I saw the downward spiral of their grievances and their beliefs manifest into hatred, fear, and violence. I saw them congregating in churches and heard the drumbeats of 'spiritual warfare and 'putting on the armor of God' etc, and knew where this was heading, when my kids were infants over 20 years ago. My marriage dissolved soon after and my ex still holds those right wing 'Christian' beliefs. You, my friend are working backwards, from where I was then, despite your origin to current story. You are dead wrong about these folks. They are uneducated, hateful, heartless zombies, created by everyone from rush limbaugh to donald trump, to the furthest capillaries of john hagee, kenneth copeland, greg locke, and zuckerberg's facebook. They were trained, manipulated, indoctrinated, and groomed to hate Democrats, and eventually democracy on a daily basis through these influences, churches and networks, likely, at least partially guided and financed by the kremlin, kirill and the ROC. You're catering to their base, and denying the truth; they ARE ignorant. You are on the wrong path, my friend and I hope you stop and look where you're headed very soon..
Frank acts like MAGZ don't work AGAINST LGBTQ+ people. Well they do, Frank- Felonious Dump just signed anti-trans legislation. You shouldn't empower these bigots by saying the election was lost because we stood up to racism and discrimination. And yes, they are uneducated. Their act of voting for such an immoral person- a sex offender/criminal/insurrectionist- that says all anyone needs to know about these people.
Wow, Frank, I've been wondering what you were thinking about the election and what followed. Now I know. Not just a great message, but an outstanding message. Thank you!
Thank You Frank for your perspective, many are with you. We needed Kamala and her joyfulness, but God is still in control, and we cant know His Plan. We simply need to have Faith in Him
"We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and a denial of my humanity and right to exist." ~ James Baldwin (1924-1987) was an American writer, essayist, novelist, playwright, social critic and civil rights theorist, and activist.
Trump was elected because he appeals to what's worst in them. Gives them permission to hate and fear. Inclusion is messy and sometimes silly. Exclusion is a thick black line and it's very clear who belongs on each side. Suffering results.
"Everyone has value and something to contribute. Every single person is important regardless of their background, abilities, or circumstances, possessions have the potential to make a difference in their country and the community's they live in."
This is the point 👉 "Racism is a contempt for life, an arrogant assertion that one race is the center of value and object of devotion, before which other races must kneel in submission." ~ Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968), American minister and prominent leader of the civil rights movement. Nobel Peace Prize Laureate.
SPOT ON, frank! The only focus (for the last 40 years) should be on the ECONOMY. It is where all societal infrastructures intersect. The only voice reclaiming power ofor the citizens: ECONOMIC UPRISING.
How about the uncommitted vote? We're all responsible for what we do. Why the death threats? They won! And yet the church ⛪️ is quiet. 🤫 I love you in Christ, brother, but hateful people can't always get a pass. It is what it is. I am struggling to forgive them, to be honest. Thank you, sir, for speaking out with your opinion. It's worthwhile thinking about our future as a democratic society if we survive!
I absolutely agree with you. I have been screaming from the rooftops. I’m done somebody else has to take over the people that have been sleeping need to wake up and when it affects them, they will have to take action.
@@JB-pd4niAs a former conservative, I will tell you that the left often comes off as elitist, smug and virtuous. While I know that is not true of most on the left, it is a perception that persists and often for good reason. Frank’s words may sting, but they reflect the way things are and we should heed his words before it’s too late.
@@mikemalloy5776 Mike, I get that it can be frustrating when people on the left seem smug or act like they're better than others, but that’s not the main issue. We can find people on both sides who act that way. The real problem isn’t how some people act, it’s when we give up on what we believe in just because of how others behave. Imagine saying, 'I decided not to go to college because some people acted smug about it.' Does that make sense? Or, 'I decided not to take a pay raise because some people acted smug about it.' That doesn't sound logical, right? So why would we not vote for someone who agrees with our values just because some people act a certain way? America has become a place where people just want to disagree with whatever’s in front of them. 'Freedom' has turned into 'you can’t tell me what to do,' even if it ends up hurting us in the end. That’s not making decisions based on what’s best; it’s just reacting to the way people act.
Not all liberal and people on the left are wealthy and elitist and have degrees in a lot of money. I don’t know where that idea came from. There are so many that are struggling financially and have most of their lives that are on the left. We care about human rights. So yes maybe some of what you say applies but again Trump bought the election. Let’s face it if anybody was gonna corrupt an election we know it was Donald Trump and the megabase that is willing to do it.
Not all liberal and people on the left are wealthy and elitist and have degrees in a lot of money. I don’t know where that idea came from. There are so many that are struggling financially and have most of their lives that are on the left. We care about human rights. So yes maybe some of what you say applies but again Trump bought the election. Let’s face it if anybody was gonna corrupt an election we know it was Donald Trump and the megabase that is willing to do it.
this is the first time you've lost me. At the risk of sounding exactly like the people you're describing, i think it's easy for a white male to say what you're saying. I agree that the dem party is seriously flawed but i don't agree with your angle. with all due respect.
The repugnicans dont even live by their so called values. Congresmrn cant sue someone because of the number of known sexual predators in their midst. True of yhe priests, preachers, prophets. You all HYPE-O RITES!
So Franky I appreciate your passion and agree with and find helpful and at same time find your inability to understand how the tension you carry is most likely and mainly the cause of your HBP. You might look beyond allopathy for other ways of supporting health.
"The first one to plead 🥺 his cause seems right, until his neighbor comes and examines him." ~ Proverbs 18:17 (NKJV) 🕊 "A brother offended is harder to win than a strong city, and contentions are like the bars of a castle." 🏰 ~ Proverbs 18:19 (NKJV) "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit." ~ Proverbs 18:21 (NKJV) 🕊 "The poor 😢 man uses entreaties, but the rich answers roughly." ~ Proverbs 18:23 (NKJV) 🕊
I understand what you are saying but we didn't start these culture wars and wanting to support diversity and tolerance and respect and dignity for all is not a bad value or a bad thing to push on. The mistake is not applying that value to Trump supporters and listening to their concerns will genuine care for their needs. But, then again, they make it difficult because they are so intolerant. Science is a competitive game and already with one week of delay and defunding U.S. scientists China is gaining a week and soon it will be two weeks and a year. Our Scientists will fall behind and other countries will pull ahead because MAGA is trying to punish those who believe in diversity because they can not be tolerant or any differences.
I agree with Schaeffer about Trump and science. However, I disagree with his implication that liberals and leftists are necessarily "elitists." Granted that many politicians like Hillary Clinton are snobs, and too many other establishment liberals are too condescending for their own good. However, most leftists I know (as contradistinguished from, say, liberals in the Democratic Party) do not fit Schaeffer's description. As I see it, the "culture wars" have been advanced primarily by evangelicals and Christian Nationalists, whose notions of what it means to be "Christian" (for example, the militarization of faith chronicled in Kristen de Prez's book JESUS AND JOHN WAYNE) would have appalled Jesus himself. So unless I'm misunderstanding him, he seems to harbor rather contradictory notions. On the one hand, he criticizes liberals for trying to undermine traditional values (like strictly "binary" conceptions of gender), yet doesn't seem to see that a lot of the breaks from tradition in the cultural sphere -- for example, advances in civil rights for blacks, women, and workers -- can be traced to advances in science. We can't glorify progressivism in science while simultaneously expecting culture to remain unchanged. And just who do we blame for these changes? Galileo for bucking Catholicism? Darwin for dumping Creationism? Freud for probing the sinister realms of the unconscious? I believe a lot of our problems stem from divisions based on simplistic labels -- precisely labels like the ones I've grudgingly used here. If we can ever escape from these ludicrously reductionist categories, we might have a chance to unite as human beings and abandon our petty differences.
As a 73 year old liberal, all I've ever wanted is medical care for all, good education for all, and good support systems for those in need. I've never virtue signaled, and didn't even know the term until you said it today. Not all liberals are elitest and preachy. It's a mistake to lump people together in a category. That said, I always appreciate your views and learn from them. Thank you.
I'm also a 73-year-old person who tries to pick and choose the best policies regardless the label, including what you've wanted. "Virtue signalling" is wingnut propaganda, and it saddens me that Frank Schaeffer is parroting. Is he trying to prove himself "cool", and above the rest of us mortals? That he has to prove he still has some hippie anti-establishment throbs left?
Preach it brother.
You're fortunate you can get checked for cancer. As an artist I cannot afford health insurance and do not have the money for any heath issue. I'm okay with death but I find it sad ,the nation has money for funding war but not for Healthcare.
To right 😊
Best commentary I have heard. You make a lot of sense. I hope folks will listen.
Thanks Mr. Schaffer, this needed to be said and needs to be heard by Democrats. Lifelong registered Democrat and labor guy. For decades I have been trying to tell my fellow Democrats that "you do not know how this sounds on the factory floor or in rural America, it is absolutely ruining our message". Chickens do indeed come home to roost.
Thanks so much Frank It had to be said, I have been screaming it from the rooftops...for the last 40plus years..
Frank, glad you got good treatment there. I love Boston and appreciate the intellectual and cultural life there.
I really appreciate your videos.
Best, Mark
IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!!!!
That's about as good as it gets! I'm with you, Frank!
"If you don't stand up for children, you don't stand for much."
~ Marian Wright Edelman, American lawyer, activist, writer, and founder of the Children's Defense Fund.
"Education is for improving the lives of others and for leaving your community and world better than you found it."
~ Marian Wright Edelman, American lawyer, activist, writer, and founder of the Children's Defense Fund.
"If you don't like the way the world is, you charge it. You have an obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time."
~ Marian Wright Edelman, American activist for civil rights. She is the founder and president emerita of the Children's Defense Fund. She influenced leaders such as MLK Jr. to include children rights in the civil rights movement.
I appreciate you so much!❤
There's preaching going on on both side's Frank and we're all preaching to the choir. Neither side is completely right or wrong about our life experiences and the way we take in the world. Fundamentalist Christians, radical conservatives etc. are just as guilty of this narrow depiction of the world as are the liberals. We're ALL in this together and that has to be discovered at a much deeper level.
I appreciate you, Frank. I am a 78-year-old Canadian, and like you, I am a former evangelical and a cancer survivor (prostate & colon). Hopefully, sanity will prevail, but I am surprised and saddened by the Trumpian mindset of many Canadians, some of who would like Canada to become the 51st US state. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Please let your citizens in Alberta know that Trump is not their friend and Neither is America.
This was the first video I found of you, and you're saying what I wish I could have said sooner. Thank you so much for putting it so succinctly and ending on a hopeful and grateful note. You're truly a good man.
Where we messed up is we let conservative media and the far right agenda create a narrative that “all” liberals were obsessed with the woke agenda, which isn’t true. Just because people decided to educate themselves to create a better life doesn’t make them elitist. Your argument is making a lot of assumptions about people and you are projecting a lot about people you don’t know. People who pulled themselves out of poverty to make a positive contribution to our country. We are angry too. We struggle financially, just like everyone else, due to income inequality and a system geared toward the rich. You act like liberals want to tell everyone how to live but look who is trying to control women, education and race dominance and wants to control all the money. Where liberals failed is they didn’t market their problem solving values effectively and assumed people would embrace peace and love for all (which just isn’t as sexy as macho bullying) and were not as assertive in the same dominate and crush model we see in conservative messaging. I like your commentary and I’m glad you’re getting people to think. Keep up the good work. The bottom line for everyone is we’re all in this together and everyone will be responsible for creating a more perfect union.
Amen!
Thanks for calling us left leaning people out. You are right! You spoke so much truth. You are just awesome.
Thank you! It did have to be said!
Thank you, Frank. You are a true Jeremiah.
We might want to figure out how to fix voter supression and voter challenges, 5 million +?
THANK YOU! You have expressed what I think as well. It’s shocks me really because I feel the same but don’t really express it. I’m with you. Thank you!
This made me mad. And I needed to hear it.
Frank, you are so right. Thank you.
Thank you Frank you make so much sense, I’m so pleased I took the time to listen to you. I’m not an American and I don’t live in America but your comments and principles applies to everyone in every country thank you once again. Wishing you and yours a great healthy life. ❤️
you make good points, thanks!
I love you Frank, but you are completely off base here. I've seen you leaning this way for a while and I'll be frank (no pun intended). I've lost my enthusiasm for your content.
I'll point out that I am no liberal elite. In fact, I'd likely be deemed a perfect maga candidate, by all measures, if not for having a moral compass and just enough education to have rejected the right wing con machine.
You've completely fallen for the right's framing of the liberal left and 'elites'.
The social justice issues you speak of are of a framing, and not based in reality. Very few very progressive lefties hold these views but they have been pushed to the outer perimeters of the 'left' while remaining under this tent. You making it sound as if Hillary or Kamala candidates ran their campaigns on any of these issues. They absolutely did not.
I'm not one of them but I remained optimistic that equality could someday be reached, and their voices heard.
I believe your stance actually puts yourself at least 10-15 degrees further right than I woud be, had I stayed in the life I previously led.
I hung ot with the most country, uneducated folks, you could imagine. I liked these folks. I connected with them on a visceral level. I played country music in bars for almost 15 years. I grew up hanging out with wannabe cowboys and drinking beer, all throughout my youth. But I saw the downward spiral of their grievances and their beliefs manifest into hatred, fear, and violence. I saw them congregating in churches and heard the drumbeats of 'spiritual warfare and 'putting on the armor of God' etc, and knew where this was heading, when my kids were infants over 20 years ago. My marriage dissolved soon after and my ex still holds those right wing 'Christian' beliefs.
You, my friend are working backwards, from where I was then, despite your origin to current story.
You are dead wrong about these folks. They are uneducated, hateful, heartless zombies, created by everyone from rush limbaugh to donald trump, to the furthest capillaries of john hagee, kenneth copeland, greg locke, and zuckerberg's facebook. They were trained, manipulated, indoctrinated, and groomed to hate Democrats, and eventually democracy on a daily basis through these influences, churches and networks, likely, at least partially guided and financed by the kremlin, kirill and the ROC.
You're catering to their base, and denying the truth; they ARE ignorant. You are on the wrong path, my friend and I hope you stop and look where you're headed very soon..
Frank acts like MAGZ don't work AGAINST LGBTQ+ people. Well they do, Frank- Felonious Dump just signed anti-trans legislation. You shouldn't empower these bigots by saying the election was lost because we stood up to racism and discrimination. And yes, they are uneducated. Their act of voting for such an immoral person- a sex offender/criminal/insurrectionist- that says all anyone needs to know about these people.
Exactly!
@MichelleG.-et8yk thank you
I was extremely conflicted to post this...but it had to be said, so I've heard.
Wow! Beautifully said, thank you. An eloquent and gracious response.
@@thomasaido9161 I'm glad you did.
Wow, Frank, I've been wondering what you were thinking about the election and what followed. Now I know. Not just a great message, but an outstanding message. Thank you!
Thank You Frank for your perspective, many are with you. We needed Kamala and her joyfulness, but God is still in control, and we cant know His Plan. We simply need to have Faith in Him
Preach!👏🏼
Bravo!
Great stuff Frank. Please keep up your sound critical thinking. 👍👍🇨🇦
Boston liberal here. You are correct. Please help the democrats get some balls!
"We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and a denial of my humanity and right to exist."
~ James Baldwin (1924-1987) was an American writer, essayist, novelist, playwright, social critic and civil rights theorist, and activist.
Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair."
Trump was elected because he appeals to what's worst in them. Gives them permission to hate and fear. Inclusion is messy and sometimes silly. Exclusion is a thick black line and it's very clear who belongs on each side. Suffering results.
So right!
Really good points.
"Everyone has value and something to contribute. Every single person is important regardless of their background, abilities, or circumstances, possessions have the potential to make a difference in their country and the community's they live in."
I don't quite agree with you. DonOld Dumb won because of the richest man in the world. This is a certainty.
Rothschild?
@@tonyedward6909 fElon Musk.
This is the point 👉 "Racism is a contempt for life, an arrogant assertion that one race is the center of value and object of devotion, before which other races must kneel in submission."
~ Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968), American minister and prominent leader of the civil rights movement. Nobel Peace Prize Laureate.
SPOT ON, frank! The only focus (for the last 40 years) should be on the ECONOMY. It is where all societal infrastructures intersect.
The only voice reclaiming power ofor the citizens: ECONOMIC UPRISING.
You are correct, sir.
A major lesson from history: the French and Russian revolutions. They occurred because the economic order was oppressive to extremes.
Truth
How about the uncommitted vote? We're all responsible for what we do. Why the death threats? They won! And yet the church ⛪️ is quiet. 🤫 I love you in Christ, brother, but hateful people can't always get a pass. It is what it is. I am struggling to forgive them, to be honest. Thank you, sir, for speaking out with your opinion. It's worthwhile thinking about our future as a democratic society if we survive!
Fantastic! Thank you so much, Frank.
Unfortunately yes indeed 😢😮
I absolutely agree with you. I have been screaming from the rooftops. I’m done somebody else has to take over the people that have been sleeping need to wake up and when it affects them, they will have to take action.
Left Right together ☮️💜💟
Personally, I believe T had enough help, coupled with voter suppression, to have gotten him to where he is.
thank you
Wow!
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I am offended by your comments about the left. We are not the bad guys here!
we are all part of the problem AND part of the solution....I don't think he is attacking you, just speaking bluntly, sometimes that's necessary
@@JB-pd4niAs a former conservative, I will tell you that the left often comes off as elitist, smug and virtuous. While I know that is not true of most on the left, it is a perception that persists and often for good reason. Frank’s words may sting, but they reflect the way things are and we should heed his words before it’s too late.
@@mikemalloy5776 Mike, I get that it can be frustrating when people on the left seem smug or act like they're better than others, but that’s not the main issue. We can find people on both sides who act that way. The real problem isn’t how some people act, it’s when we give up on what we believe in just because of how others behave.
Imagine saying, 'I decided not to go to college because some people acted smug about it.' Does that make sense? Or, 'I decided not to take a pay raise because some people acted smug about it.' That doesn't sound logical, right? So why would we not vote for someone who agrees with our values just because some people act a certain way?
America has become a place where people just want to disagree with whatever’s in front of them. 'Freedom' has turned into 'you can’t tell me what to do,' even if it ends up hurting us in the end. That’s not making decisions based on what’s best; it’s just reacting to the way people act.
Not all liberal and people on the left are wealthy and elitist and have degrees in a lot of money. I don’t know where that idea came from. There are so many that are struggling financially and have most of their lives that are on the left. We care about human rights. So yes maybe some of what you say applies but again Trump bought the election. Let’s face it if anybody was gonna corrupt an election we know it was Donald Trump and the megabase that is willing to do it.
Not all liberal and people on the left are wealthy and elitist and have degrees in a lot of money. I don’t know where that idea came from. There are so many that are struggling financially and have most of their lives that are on the left. We care about human rights. So yes maybe some of what you say applies but again Trump bought the election. Let’s face it if anybody was gonna corrupt an election we know it was Donald Trump and the megabase that is willing to do it.
this is the first time you've lost me. At the risk of sounding exactly like the people you're describing, i think it's easy for a white male to say what you're saying. I agree that the dem party is seriously flawed but i don't agree with your angle. with all due respect.
Ok. If you agree that the dem party is seriously flawed, what's *your* angle and how does it differ from mine?
I disagree and am sad to hear your take, I have learned from you in the past and usually appreciate your message, not this time.
What do we disagree on?
The repugnicans dont even live by their so called values. Congresmrn cant sue someone because of the number of known sexual predators in their midst. True of yhe priests, preachers, prophets. You all HYPE-O RITES!
Last I heard, people voted for Trump because of their concerns about the economy: inflation, job insecurity, housing costs etc.
Free Luigi
So Franky I appreciate your passion and agree with and find helpful and at same time find your inability to understand how the tension you carry is most likely and mainly the cause of your HBP. You might look beyond allopathy for other ways of supporting health.
"The first one to plead 🥺 his cause seems right, until his neighbor comes and examines him."
~ Proverbs 18:17 (NKJV) 🕊
"A brother offended is harder to win than a strong city, and contentions are like the bars of a castle." 🏰
~ Proverbs 18:19 (NKJV)
"Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit."
~ Proverbs 18:21 (NKJV) 🕊
"The poor 😢 man uses entreaties, but the rich answers roughly."
~ Proverbs 18:23 (NKJV) 🕊
I understand what you are saying but we didn't start these culture wars and wanting to support diversity and tolerance and respect and dignity for all is not a bad value or a bad thing to push on. The mistake is not applying that value to Trump supporters and listening to their concerns will genuine care for their needs. But, then again, they make it difficult because they are so intolerant. Science is a competitive game and already with one week of delay and defunding U.S. scientists China is gaining a week and soon it will be two weeks and a year. Our Scientists will fall behind and other countries will pull ahead because MAGA is trying to punish those who believe in diversity because they can not be tolerant or any differences.
👍🏽
I agree with Schaeffer about Trump and science. However, I disagree with his implication that liberals and leftists are necessarily "elitists." Granted that many politicians like Hillary Clinton are snobs, and too many other establishment liberals are too condescending for their own good. However, most leftists I know (as contradistinguished from, say, liberals in the Democratic Party) do not fit Schaeffer's description.
As I see it, the "culture wars" have been advanced primarily by evangelicals and Christian Nationalists, whose notions of what it means to be "Christian" (for example, the militarization of faith chronicled in Kristen de Prez's book JESUS AND JOHN WAYNE) would have appalled Jesus himself.
So unless I'm misunderstanding him, he seems to harbor rather contradictory notions. On the one hand, he criticizes liberals for trying to undermine traditional values (like strictly "binary" conceptions of gender), yet doesn't seem to see that a lot of the breaks from tradition in the cultural sphere -- for example, advances in civil rights for blacks, women, and workers -- can be traced to advances in science. We can't glorify progressivism in science while simultaneously expecting culture to remain unchanged.
And just who do we blame for these changes? Galileo for bucking Catholicism? Darwin for dumping Creationism? Freud for probing the sinister realms of the unconscious?
I believe a lot of our problems stem from divisions based on simplistic labels -- precisely labels like the ones I've grudgingly used here. If we can ever escape from these ludicrously reductionist categories, we might have a chance to unite as human beings and abandon our petty differences.
Thus says the LORD:
"Cursed is the man who trusts in a man and makes him his strength, whose heart departs from the LORD."
~ Jeremiah 17:5 (NKJV) 🕊
Frank, please name, with citations, which Democrats have trans issues as their top issue. You bought maga, hook, line and sinker.
Amen!