Jinsoul in Vivis letter to Hong Kong is so eerie. Like they turned a heartfelt letter about Vivi and her time so far, and ended it with the most jarring, unexpected and strange ending. The contrast of Jinsoul being right behind Vivi in such a heartfelt moment is so creepy. Almost like Jinsoul was breaking the 4th wall or sumn
it goes so deep, and as much as I love other group’s lores, they usually focus too much on aesthetic and not enough of hidden clues, details, creepy signs, origins, references, time travel, fire, etc.
another theory is that haseul didn’t kill gowon, she killed her mirror self (since loonaverse has two timelines) and that’s why gowon returns to the location after changing the timelines so she can save haseul and prevent from dying. Plus that it isn’t gowon who is her mirror, since yyxy lore is switched, everything is the reverse (because of the möbius) and that means it isn’t gowon, but chuu who is her mirror. that’s why she appears in heart attack.
@@12s0ph he created an album called" la maison loona - loona the balad" and he posted the highlight medley but he left the company and he didnt publish the album :(
Chuu is HASEUL's mirror. Yves-Vivi (physical interaction at skating rink) Chuu-Haseul (physical interaction at heart attack MV) Hyunjin-Gowon (interacted through Hyunjin bracelets that Gowon made in Seesaw Video because Hyunjin is way too shy.) Olivia-Heejin (physical interaction at the rooftop)
At least, at this time. I peeked through the album art and ooh boy the mirrors have changed if the girls holding hands in those album photos represent what I think they do.
i do miss how mysterious, dreamy, and shoegazing the cinematography, the music, and grimes-like pop.... too bad BBC really destroyed Jaden Jeong's ideas. LOONA has so much to give, especially to their fans "ORBITS" or "LOONATICS" --- we were called like that during OEC era.... i really do want to see those shelved videos.... it will complete the lore.... but damaged has done... and of course, EARTH will be blessed if someone leaked all of those hidden treasures.
Yyxy leaving Olivia had me crying the first time i watched it because i too have created a friend group of people who ended up choosing each other over me
I miss when they used to do more stuff like this. I get why they don't, it created a huge budget bloat among other issues but it's def what got me into the band early on. (Besides the dope music obviously).
i made dal segno my ringtone and i usually never let it play it out fully but once i was driving so i couldn't pick up the call and hearing the last thing FREAKED ME TF OUT I ALMOST CRASHED INTO THE BARRIER ISTG
That's because Olivia didn't kill Vivi. Probably the biggest misconception of the Loonaverse lore. It was Yves that killed Vivi, the events shown in New and EDILY are the same thing. It took place in the skating rink, Vivi revisits her memory when she was still a living human before dying and turning into an android, it showed her meeting a companion. Same thing was shown in New when it's revealed that that companion is actually Yves and it was all a deception. While Vivi thought it was a happy memory, it's actually the one that got her killed. That's also the point where Yves started rebelling and going against Olivia and their instructor. Olivia though was revealed to not actually being loyal to the "instructor" and had good intentions of her own, hence her meeting Heejin at the end of Egoist, like rivals setting aside their difference and working together, but that's another story
yes but if you slow it down towards the end (around the dance break? bit) you can actually see a few shots of what seems to be a deer plush being burnt. I think.
Okay dark stretch theory I just brain blasted coming up: what if the odd eye circle girls are human experiments? This kinda runs along with the theory that vivi had/has an odd eye but it doesn't necessarily have to. I was thinking about the blood and optometrist equipment shots in Sweet Crazy Love, specifically with Jinsoul. She uniquely has the eye patch, which she's seen with at the end of the "letter to Hong Kong" video. NOW at the end of the Eclipse MV's description, it says that Jinsoul was trying to escape a "basement in Hong Kong". What if she was being experimented on in that basement and was implanted with an odd eye? It would definitely explain that imagery in the swc music video. Now of course the specificity of Hong Kong obviously connects Vivi to whatever happened to Jinsoul and lends credence to the fact that Vivi may have indeed originally come from the oec universe. It would also explain her android origins too if perhaps she was another odd eye girl who was experimented on. Perhaps when she escaped to earth and 1/3, she helped free Jinsoul from the basement, and that's why Jinsoul is seen in "letter to Hong Kong", presumably before she meets oec. Also knowing that Kim Lip, Jinsoul, and Choerry's videos happen from their perspectives before meeting any of the other girls of the unit, it's interesting that Jinsoul's video is a lot of this dark, nondescript area. Seeing as the basement was mentioned in Kim Lip's video before Jinsoul debuted, I don't see why Jinsoul's video couldn't be a representation of that but maybe that's a stretch (but also it would make sense if the fish tanks in Singing in the Rain are representations of the fish tanks in the letter to Hong Kong video). There's probably stuff that im missing but I feel like I have to put this out here even if this is 10 months old, I've never had a LOONA lore brain moment like this before I hope someone else understands my jibbering. Also maybe a non sequitur but I feel like Yves being so involved in oec universe (claw machine colors, the 4 vs. 3 apples, the Starlight unreleased mv) and then also Vivi makes more sense if it's literally oec Vivi. Hmmmmm much to think about.
I disagree with everything you said and I have a different theory, but jeez this is dark... It's amazing how you found that, I never even heard of a similar theory
Also, If Yeojin was in 1/3, Vivi would possibly be from OEC, but she's from 1/3 and If i remember correctly, it's said she's a foreigner, maybe she's not only from Hong Kong but also from OEC's world?
I thought YYXY is mirrored, so the first person is actually Olivia, then Go Won, then Chuu then Yves. So Go Won actually matches with Hyunjin and Chuu matches with Haseul?
3:52 by purchasing, do you mean pursuing/chasing? Or did they literally buy Go Won lol Edit: Also, the animal from Egoist has been proven to be a wolf, not a deer, because someone found the original unfiltered stock footage (Loominosity's video "LOONAverse Basics 2: Common Misconceptions" shows the proof), however I agree that the similar hallway might indicate a connection between ViVi and Olivia Hye, and the blood could be a part of it.
the theory of yyxy being one makes so much sense.. the title of the video being one. yves picked up the apple, then suddenly it shifts to chuu?… makes so much sense.
Now we can see the steep downfall of quality in song and cinematography, i mean its good that they earn some popularity but it will be better if they can maintain the same quality of music and cinematography like jaden jeong era... Disclaimer: i totally disagree with jaden attitude towards the girls
your theory that haseul k worded gowon in the loonaverse is actually big brain,, and in the loonaverse, boys are usually just loona members (who haven't debuted yet) so :0
it kind of makes sense that each member represents an emotion and the main person is olivia because olivia is trying to find herself and love herself (present in the lyrics of her solo egoist)
Oh no that was Chuu eating the apple and escaping the back of the moon/Eden, hence Eden Chuu's death, so when she's "brought back to life" it means she's on earth and since Haseul is part of loona 1/3 aka the girls on earth, she welcomes chuu to earth
@@InfectiousCheese That's my problem. If they're counterparts they should be opposite, not similar. Also story and character development of Haseul and GoWon are neither similar nor opposite Edit: Also Haseul has no motive to kill GoWon
@@sofija642 if anything chuu is haseul’s mirror. they both die in their mvs or a part of themselves dies and obviously haseul is in heart attack. chuu met haseul after she escaped eden, gowon followed chuu’s trails which may have lead her to search for haseul’s traces. gowon is hyunjin’s mirror as there is a cat in her mv. yyxy mirrors the 1/3 girls in opposite order, who was last introduced mirrors the first one introduced (1:12, 2:11, 3:10, 9:5).
@@ela7354 I heard that theory and I think it's possible, but I believe pair of mirrors are: Heejin - Olivia Hye, Hyunjin - Choerry, Haseul - Kim Lip, Yeojin - Jinsoul, ViVi - Yves, Chuu - GoWon
3:52 I MEANT PURSUING NOT PURCHASING.... HELP.
Imagine purchasing a human being
They knew she wasn't gonna come willingly so they bribed her
lol
YOU HAD ME REALLY SCARED WHEN IT SAID PURCHASING LIKE OHMYGOD ???
Go Won Was bribed into joining yyxy 😭
The way Olivia murmurs "together" throughout the yyxy teaser, even though she's only ever shown alone.
oh really? may i ask where / when 👀
@@bluhbluhbluh3542 it's the loonatheworld teaser called "youth youth by young"
idc i love that audio
Jinsoul in Vivis letter to Hong Kong is so eerie. Like they turned a heartfelt letter about Vivi and her time so far, and ended it with the most jarring, unexpected and strange ending. The contrast of Jinsoul being right behind Vivi in such a heartfelt moment is so creepy. Almost like Jinsoul was breaking the 4th wall or sumn
loona best lore in kpop
ik that’s right!
it goes so deep, and as much as I love other group’s lores, they usually focus too much on aesthetic and not enough of hidden clues, details, creepy signs, origins, references, time travel, fire, etc.
Unfortunately since that one guy left it kinda went downhill but still amazing
real
YES
I love how dark but well handled is the loonaverse. Even the "lighthearted" videos like kiss later are creepy
another theory is that haseul didn’t kill gowon, she killed her mirror self (since loonaverse has two timelines) and that’s why gowon returns to the location after changing the timelines so she can save haseul and prevent from dying.
Plus that it isn’t gowon who is her mirror, since yyxy lore is switched, everything is the reverse (because of the möbius) and that means it isn’t gowon, but chuu who is her mirror. that’s why she appears in heart attack.
thank you! this is what i was thinking too!!
i am so glad that loonaverse horror is back with loossemble's sensetive
That letter to hong kong things still scares me
Even the dark parts show the incredible thought that went into the group. I hate JJ for what he did but his idea was so strong
I see you everywhere
What did he do?
@@12s0ph he created an album called" la maison loona - loona the balad" and he posted the highlight medley but he left the company and he didnt publish the album :(
@Jisoo Kim yeah but he's mostly at fault - jaden has a history of starting projects and then packing up and leaving and transferring work elsewhere.
@@nasia3551 and much much more.
Chuu is HASEUL's mirror.
Yves-Vivi (physical interaction at skating rink)
Chuu-Haseul (physical interaction at heart attack MV)
Hyunjin-Gowon (interacted through Hyunjin bracelets that Gowon made in Seesaw Video because Hyunjin is way too shy.)
Olivia-Heejin (physical interaction at the rooftop)
At least, at this time. I peeked through the album art and ooh boy the mirrors have changed if the girls holding hands in those album photos represent what I think they do.
we also saw a cat in "one and only" mv
i do miss how mysterious, dreamy, and shoegazing the cinematography, the music, and grimes-like pop.... too bad BBC really destroyed Jaden Jeong's ideas. LOONA has so much to give, especially to their fans "ORBITS" or "LOONATICS" --- we were called like that during OEC era.... i really do want to see those shelved videos.... it will complete the lore.... but damaged has done... and of course, EARTH will be blessed if someone leaked all of those hidden treasures.
Yyxy leaving Olivia had me crying the first time i watched it because i too have created a friend group of people who ended up choosing each other over me
I hope your fine bro♡orbits loves their fellow orbits:)
same😀👍
vivis letter to hong kong no joke always give me chills like it scares me sm idk it was produced very well cause it scares the hell out of me
this is why I love loona, they have such a great storyline and the way you have to look deeper into it is just amazing
I miss when they used to do more stuff like this. I get why they don't, it created a huge budget bloat among other issues but it's def what got me into the band early on. (Besides the dope music obviously).
loona teasers are just a different breed
i made dal segno my ringtone and i usually never let it play it out fully but once i was driving so i couldn't pick up the call and hearing the last thing FREAKED ME TF OUT I ALMOST CRASHED INTO THE BARRIER ISTG
Oh, but the eye in Egoist is actually a wolf's eye. It being a deer eye was disproven some time ago.
noooooooo
@@yeojinace8292 yeeees
That's because Olivia didn't kill Vivi. Probably the biggest misconception of the Loonaverse lore. It was Yves that killed Vivi, the events shown in New and EDILY are the same thing. It took place in the skating rink, Vivi revisits her memory when she was still a living human before dying and turning into an android, it showed her meeting a companion. Same thing was shown in New when it's revealed that that companion is actually Yves and it was all a deception. While Vivi thought it was a happy memory, it's actually the one that got her killed. That's also the point where Yves started rebelling and going against Olivia and their instructor.
Olivia though was revealed to not actually being loyal to the "instructor" and had good intentions of her own, hence her meeting Heejin at the end of Egoist, like rivals setting aside their difference and working together, but that's another story
@@user-uo8mx3cv5k Sir this is a McDonald's.
yes but if you slow it down towards the end (around the dance break? bit) you can actually see a few shots of what seems to be a deer plush being burnt. I think.
Okay dark stretch theory I just brain blasted coming up: what if the odd eye circle girls are human experiments? This kinda runs along with the theory that vivi had/has an odd eye but it doesn't necessarily have to. I was thinking about the blood and optometrist equipment shots in Sweet Crazy Love, specifically with Jinsoul. She uniquely has the eye patch, which she's seen with at the end of the "letter to Hong Kong" video. NOW at the end of the Eclipse MV's description, it says that Jinsoul was trying to escape a "basement in Hong Kong". What if she was being experimented on in that basement and was implanted with an odd eye? It would definitely explain that imagery in the swc music video. Now of course the specificity of Hong Kong obviously connects Vivi to whatever happened to Jinsoul and lends credence to the fact that Vivi may have indeed originally come from the oec universe. It would also explain her android origins too if perhaps she was another odd eye girl who was experimented on. Perhaps when she escaped to earth and 1/3, she helped free Jinsoul from the basement, and that's why Jinsoul is seen in "letter to Hong Kong", presumably before she meets oec. Also knowing that Kim Lip, Jinsoul, and Choerry's videos happen from their perspectives before meeting any of the other girls of the unit, it's interesting that Jinsoul's video is a lot of this dark, nondescript area. Seeing as the basement was mentioned in Kim Lip's video before Jinsoul debuted, I don't see why Jinsoul's video couldn't be a representation of that but maybe that's a stretch (but also it would make sense if the fish tanks in Singing in the Rain are representations of the fish tanks in the letter to Hong Kong video). There's probably stuff that im missing but I feel like I have to put this out here even if this is 10 months old, I've never had a LOONA lore brain moment like this before I hope someone else understands my jibbering.
Also maybe a non sequitur but I feel like Yves being so involved in oec universe (claw machine colors, the 4 vs. 3 apples, the Starlight unreleased mv) and then also Vivi makes more sense if it's literally oec Vivi. Hmmmmm much to think about.
I disagree with everything you said and I have a different theory, but jeez this is dark... It's amazing how you found that, I never even heard of a similar theory
Disgusting profile photo
Also, If Yeojin was in 1/3, Vivi would possibly be from OEC, but she's from 1/3 and If i remember correctly, it's said she's a foreigner, maybe she's not only from Hong Kong but also from OEC's world?
the way you could hear the crowd get jump scared 💀💀
You know this is the shit I live for.
so true
letter to hong kong does something to my brain i'm obsessed
0:55 no bc they did this and then they went 💓😊🤩😍💕🥺LOVE 4 EVA🥺💕😍🤩😊💓
no one has done it like loona, banger songs AND lore
I thought YYXY is mirrored, so the first person is actually Olivia, then Go Won, then Chuu then Yves. So Go Won actually matches with Hyunjin and Chuu matches with Haseul?
This explains the cat in One and Only and Haseul waking up Chuu!
@@Radon-sp1po Yeaa I think in the special MV for "See Saw", Go Won puts a bracelet on a cat that gets delivered to Hyunjin in "Around You"
@@aylmao303 Which would also explain why Hyunjin had a butterfly in Why Not!
@@Radon-sp1po omg, I did not make that connection. You are so right
But aren't Hyunjin and Cheorry counterparts? Choerry even said they had twin concept in So What
this shit is so fucking terrifiying at night what the actual fuck
Me being orbit for 2 years...... HOW TF I DIDNT KNEW ABT HASEUL AND GOWON THEORY!?!!?!?!
As a person who doesnt know a lot about Loona, this made me sooooooooo confused.
this makes me want to listen to their songs
you should!! all their songs are really good they cover literally every single genre! they have a lot of music too, ot12, subunits, and solos!!
3:52 by purchasing, do you mean pursuing/chasing? Or did they literally buy Go Won lol
Edit: Also, the animal from Egoist has been proven to be a wolf, not a deer, because someone found the original unfiltered stock footage (Loominosity's video "LOONAverse Basics 2: Common Misconceptions" shows the proof), however I agree that the similar hallway might indicate a connection between ViVi and Olivia Hye, and the blood could be a part of it.
i meant pursuing 😭 im sorry, in my language « pourchasser » means pursuing so i just mixed up the words 😭 im so mad rn
@@yeojinace8292 It's okay, the word combo actually makes sense lol I still got what you meant 😂
@@yeojinace8292wait i didn’t knew you were french 😭 it’s so good to see other french or its
loona best group
This is really good. I’m currently trying make an argument there are gnosis themes in the Loonaverse
the theory of yyxy being one makes so much sense.. the title of the video being one. yves picked up the apple, then suddenly it shifts to chuu?… makes so much sense.
Now we can see the steep downfall of quality in song and cinematography, i mean its good that they earn some popularity but it will be better if they can maintain the same quality of music and cinematography like jaden jeong era...
Disclaimer: i totally disagree with jaden attitude towards the girls
There's nothing better than loona lore
6:44 hasn't that already been debunked? it is a wolf's eye
I am all for it
and now on flip that they flipped everything (inverted colors + different units)
your theory that haseul k worded gowon in the loonaverse is actually big brain,, and in the loonaverse, boys are usually just loona members (who haven't debuted yet) so :0
For me, yyxy being one person is the worst part, cause they story was really good as four characters.
it kind of makes sense that each member represents an emotion and the main person is olivia because olivia is trying to find herself and love herself (present in the lyrics of her solo egoist)
"I don't need no garden of Eden"
Look at the order of girls leaving at 5:22.. GoWon was the one to leave second, not Chuu..?
OMG this video is incredible!!! Never deleted please!!
The comment section on the YYXY “one” video though 💀💀 “damn that apple is crispy”
I thought haseul was chuus mirror
thats not a deer in Olivia's MV, its a wolf eye, it has been confirmed already by digipedi, he takes that image from a random bank of images to use it
i feel like 4:14 isn't heejin leaving the butterfly realm, but instead, it's her creating the loonaverse. this might be a weird theory, though.
olivia killing vivi theory was debunked a long time ago, thats not a deer eye its a wolf
GOWON IS FOR SALE
HASEUL KILLED GOWON??????????
Chuu did not die
This video had exactly 6,666 views when i watched it... im scared
bizarre
did haseul bring chuu back to life at the end of heart attack? or are they both dead? pls help I'm not a big brain orbit
Oh no that was Chuu eating the apple and escaping the back of the moon/Eden, hence Eden Chuu's death, so when she's "brought back to life" it means she's on earth and since Haseul is part of loona 1/3 aka the girls on earth, she welcomes chuu to earth
@@ONCEPLANET0912 oh okay thanks. :)
Loona and aespa have the best lore in kpop
🫶🫶🫶
3:10 Why do you think other Haseul is GoWon?
Edit: Wrote this comment before your explanation sorry. I still disagree with everything you said though
@@InfectiousCheese That's my problem. If they're counterparts they should be opposite, not similar. Also story and character development of Haseul and GoWon are neither similar nor opposite
Edit: Also Haseul has no motive to kill GoWon
@@sofija642 if anything chuu is haseul’s mirror. they both die in their mvs or a part of themselves dies and obviously haseul is in heart attack. chuu met haseul after she escaped eden, gowon followed chuu’s trails which may have lead her to search for haseul’s traces. gowon is hyunjin’s mirror as there is a cat in her mv. yyxy mirrors the 1/3 girls in opposite order, who was last introduced mirrors the first one introduced (1:12, 2:11, 3:10, 9:5).
@@ela7354 I heard that theory and I think it's possible, but I believe pair of mirrors are: Heejin - Olivia Hye, Hyunjin - Choerry, Haseul - Kim Lip, Yeojin - Jinsoul, ViVi - Yves, Chuu - GoWon