@@gymnastsinspire3724 dude....clearly you are the angry Karen. Lol. And I am not a fan of Great Britain.....you come across as insane in these comments. Lol.
@@pandamanda5606 I read it. Nothing has changed by you repeating yourself. Funny how you just tried to reiterate your asinine point instead of replying to anything I said. Not once have you disputed the fact that Jessica was overscored and that is the only issue here. Not your fabricated nonsense. Another truculent supercilious attention seeking troll it seems.
This is in no way meant as a derogatory comment but a genuine concern and also impressive observation on Naomi Visser. She is so tiny and its amazing how she has the strength to do those amazing tumbling passes. Beautiful to watch but her thin stature has me concerned for her wellbeing as she looks unwell. I hope she is ok and is being looked after. I know there is a chinese gymnast Shang Chunsong who was incredibly petite but was amazing. I think she is retired now. But she was malnourished as a child because of coming from a poor family. It's remarkable how she was able to do this sport and she did it for her brother who is blind and all her earnings have been for him and her family.
Gotta love all the gymnasts. They don't hesitate to offer a congratulations to gymnasts from a competing nation. Back in the '90's competing gymnasts would be sitting with vacant eyes. They gave fake wooden hugs to the competing nation at best.
The best floor from the competition wasn't there after all. Flavia Saraiva. 😭 I hope she bring back the same music next year. I simply love love her routine.
@@jamm1227 I commented my concerns on a video of Flavia from the Paris WC and people accused me of hating on her. No, I can see as clear as day that the poor woman has ongoing ankle injuries! Would have loved to see her in the mix here.
@@chewiegym2765 its so frustrating smh. The same thing happened with Larissa Iordache. Such a lovely gymnast but its like they just did not pace her right with all those ankle issues. Just let them heal. Even if they have to miss a year or year and a half of competing. Extending their career and health in the long run should be the obvious choice here.
@@jamm1227 I agree with the need to rest, but I don't agree with the "they need to let her" narrative. She is an adult, she is capable of making decisions about her own health and career herself.
I have to be honest I was surprised at Jordan's score. I thought she should've scored much higher, personally I thought she did the best. As far as Jade goes, I think they need to work a lot harder on artistry. She's improved a lot, but there really isn't much dance in her routine at all and I think that the judges hammer her for that. I'm glad Rebeca got a medal but I was SO hoping she'd win. And no Flavia 😩
Jade has artistry issues, yes. But I don't think it's for lack of working hard on it, and she has improved enormously over the last few years. Hopefully she can continue to improve, and I'm hoping Chellsie--who is great at artistry and an experienced judge--can help Jade hack her routine a bit better for some of the artistry requirements in the new code.
@@erinm9445 Agreed. imo, TEAM USA really should hire a Head Choreographer. Someone who reviews the routines and makes sure they meet the International Requirements.
@@kinsellawasrobbed7515 I disagree. You can tell she put a lot of work into her choreo. Last quad she just kind of moved her arms and posed. I think she has improved a great deal! It's a shame how they constantly hammer her on artistry deductions. I really think the judges consistently under score her.
I love Jessica Gadirova. Really difficult passes, very clean and precise dance elements, good choreography and a lot of charisma. She really is so so talented, but this was not a routine that should have crowned her World Champion. 8.2 E for a routine with very visible errors and landing deductions on every single pass? I feel like these make discerning audiences rapidly turn on a gymnast because they feel they're receiving unfair treatment. It tarnishes her journey, unfortunately.
I also feel that Jordan has matured so much artistically. I remember that before she had a clunkier style and now her dance is much more flowy. I really thought she should have won the gold here although I love Gadirova.
Exatamente. Jordan, Rebeca e Jade com certeza foram totalmente superiores. Os 14.200 não condizem com o apresentado, sabendo que as outras tiveram um nível superior e jessica inferior... lamentável =(
@@battlehymnoftheempath3610 I think we have her NCAA experience to thank for that. It's great to see college gymnasts still competing (and excelling at) elite.
PARABENS REBECA ANDRADE NOSSA ESTRELA.. LEVA EM SEU CORAÇAO A NOSSA BANDEIRA DO NOSSO AIS.. SOMOS ORGULHOSOS POR VC EXISTIR E NOS REPRESENTAR.. MESMO QUE NOSSO BRASIL NAO TENHA GRANDES INVESTIMENTOS NO ESPORTE.. MAS SOMOS BEM REPRESENTADOS POR PESSOAS COMO VC..
I have to admit when I watch the Olympics, I really look forward to women's gymnastics more than anything else. I love how much our women have improved over the years.
Hahahaaaaa ridículous cj gadirova nr 1hahaha but to cry!!!! Jade and Andrade together absolutely lovely. They should have been 1 and Jessica 3. This is clear for the whole world.
I understand they want more "artistry" we all do. But artistry can be subjective and the code should strive to have more validity among competitors. Fancy dancing shouldn't get a higher reward than complex tumbling.
I don't wanna see more "artistry". I wanna see them tumble spectacularly with fitting music to highlight it. The "dancing" should just be a way for them to regain power for the next tumble imho. But I totally agree on the rest.
Like especially at the end I enjoyed jade's dancing. I feel like they've gone tougher since the Olympics since people were mad cuz jade had simple dance and still won but idk.
Talk of Artistry I would be ok with Jessica’s score and win ….. if her artistry was pair as for example with Russian Gymnast Mustafina. When she did floor her routine was never about tumbling but her moves and artistry was EVERYTHING !!! Here I see Nothing special to get such a score , it’s not jer fault but smells like favoritism
She looks passionated to me...its just her unique style...dont get why people hate on her choreo so much ...its just an issue with the requirements..stupid dance shouldn't be worth so much
this was so clearly biased toward jessica 😭 im not one to call overscoring when my fav loses but this just doesn’t make sense even if you don’t know much about the sport. Jordan or Jade should have won regardless of if Jade’s artistry isn’t the best. Even I think Jessica was close to being on par with them, but nowhere near a 14.200 when everyone else is scoring 13.833???
Jade has upped her game on floor. Her artistry has vastly improved. I could hardly watch her routine at the Olympics… this one is very nice. Jessica had very clean chases and dance and her artistic work was great. Honestly her landings were not clean. I really don’t think that she was .5 ahead of Chiles and Carey…
@@thesovgc LOL. I agree but she’s right, this is a HUGE improvement for Jade. Artistically it’s not much but for Jade this is a great step forward to becoming watchable on floor.
I look forward to the Olympics every year they come around and I especially look forward to watching women’s gymnastics. It wasn’t until the last couple of years that I started being interested in the European championships and worlds. I am so happy to see countries at the top of the podium in team finals and individual all around finals that I have not seen before.
She actually did a whip+tucked full in (To be honest I'm glad she didn't compete the chuso at quals,that injury could have been worse and she could've fell just like Paris WC)
Las gemelas son adorables, bailan y expresan mucho con su cuerpo, pero seamos honestos, Jordan Chiles es la legítima ganadora de la medalla de oro, buena dificultad, buena ejecución y sí baila también 👏👏
I hope Chiles doesn’t get discouraged in elite gymnastics the way Simone did. Albeit for different reasons, I feel those two rarely get the scores they deserve!
I don't understand how Carey and Jessica Gadirova both have a 6.0 difficulty in this final. Jade completes 4 passes and all the required leaps/turns, while Gadirova only has 3 less difficult tumbling passes and the same turn/leap requirements. Dance should have nothing to do with the difficulty, only execution. It doesn't make any sense how they have the same D score.
Dance elements have a D value so they add to the difficulty score. And when combined they have bonus. So they count to the difficulty as do the tumbles. And it makes total sense since they are extremely difficult to do well. Take Rebeca for example. She is more consistent with her tumbles, as a sky high Cheng and yet misses more than hits her Memmel turn. It all has to do with working to the best of your abilities. Jessica is very clean in her dance elements so she favours them to build up her D score.
I love 💗 watching the women floor exercise and can’t wait to see the 2024 summer Olympic Games with the floor exercise at the 2024 summer Olympic Games in Paris France 🇫🇷
I'll never understand that high note from Gadirova. It was not deserved, throughout the championship there were marks above the fair for British athletes. Rebecca e Chiles and are the true moral champions.
Chiles tried the Gogean but it was short. That cost her 0.3. And she didn't even get D credit. She was an idiot to try and upgrade for EF when she's literally never hit that leap.
@@gym_analysis not sure if i agree with that so much but they were definitely not favouring the rest of the brit's routines. i found kinsella's bar score and courtney's ring score harshly marked tbh
How did this gadirova routine get the highest marks? She only has three stunts and in the three she landed with imbalances having to jump forwards and backwards, that was stolen, Jade and Andrade deserved more.
having only 3 tumbling passes helps her execution score since there are less deductions than there would be if there were 4. a lot about execution scores is clever routine construction which Gadirova has here
@@emmar6304 Having three passes helps in the execution but loses in the difficulty and we know that both are important for the note, but it turns out that their execution was not good, if it were to justify this, all three were bad, none of them pinned, all with backward jumps or forward, andrade and jade had better landings and others similar to hers, and the routine of the two was more difficult, so where did all that note of hers come from? for me she was privileged because she was an athlete from the host house, a stolen note, Jade and Andrade deserved more.
@@tiagoribeiro6759 jade has the maximum artistry deductions you can have in this code which is why her score is low. team GB have done good work with their floor routines by minimising built in deductions and having bonuses for artistry. also just because a country is hosting a championship does not mean they overscore their gymnasts on purpose. the host country doesn't matter because obviously the panel of judges come from all different countries in the world, not just the UK as in this case
@@emmar6304 You talk so much about her performance, but they weren't good in the arrivals and landings, I still think her grade was too high than she actually deserved, I'm not a judge, but a dance to overcome all those difficulties presented by Jade and Andrade is something difficult, the artistic is important I know, Andrade also has a good artistic besides the difficulties, he continued thinking that Gadirova had a grade above what he deserved.
These women did amazing routines, however, I am shocked that Jessica Gadirova won the gold. Her landings on the tumbling passes were not clean and steady. The level of difficulty was there, but I don’t understand how she outscored Jordan AND Rebecca?
It’s obvious that the judges was waiting to give Jessica the highest score. They would gave her twin the silver medal had not she step out of bounds. The judges made sure not to give any of the other gymnast 14 points to stage gold and silver medals. She had obvious flaws. Jordan should won. Yes Jessica did good routine to get a medal but not gold. It’s all politics!!!
Jordan should have WON…im not even bias but she has the dance chore, difficult, artistry, and technique….if you swapped score with Gadirova it would make sense.
The first tumbling of Jessica (double twisting double back) was not correctly executed in the air…. Her body was straight in the beginning… a bit weird.. did she get deducted for the her score?
the only making jess win was the fact that she can dance. she should not have been on the podium at all. jordan, jade and Rebecca should hve been the top 3. judges were favoring the dancing a lot
@@Appaddict01 exactly... like ok Jade isn't a dancer but she looks good with her routine, they dont dance 30h/week they flip. so score them on their flips. its ridiculous
Jessica Gadirova full of flaws in the series and came in 1st? Shameful... Not belittling the gymnast. But the Americans and the Brazilians were much better.
Yeah. I think Jessica probably had the Americans beat on artistry but all her her passes were a bit sloppy, didn't hit 180 on all her split jumps...score was quite generous.
@@sweetpeaces4206 Сборная России самая лучшая ! Наши гимнастки артистичны , изящны и сложность достаточно высокая ! Здесь ни одна сборная не прошла чисто все снаряды ! Мне понравились гимнастки из Бразилии !
I feel really bad for Jessica who is stuck in the middle of the backlash. While I believe the complaints are valid and the judges were off in their judgement, I think this amount of criticism has to be hard to read. I truly wish we could have had fair and objective judging to avoid all of this for the athletes sake. **Also side note, I agree with people that artistry can be very subjective. Each gymnast is going to have their own style of dance that fits their floor routine and personality.
I really like this podium but i really don’t get the E scores, i am no way an expert but i thought Martina and especially Naomi’s routines were very clean so I don’t get why they scored lower than 8???
@@rosee7011 They aren't talking about difficulty, they're specifically talking about the execution scores. (I haven't seen the routines yet so I don't have an opinion on how they were scored yet).
i also thought martina’s floor was one of the cleanest ones and it also had a fair amount of difficulty too and good artistry. she should’ve been higher imo.
I can’t wait to see Simone biles and jade Carey and Chase Kalisz and Caeleb Dressel and Suni lee and Katie Ledecky at the 2024 summer Olympic Games in Paris France 🇫🇷
Ok….just got done watching this…..How did Gadirova win? Based on the rules, she had a .3 step/hop on each one of her tumbling. The last pass was pretty short of rotation. Here is how I saw the podium: Gold - Chiles Silver - Andrade Bronze - Visser/Carey I could be wrong. I look forward to seeing what others think.
@@mattj5391 well it’s pretty obvious they’re biased, i was a gymnast, and have watching and around gymnastics essentially my entire life, but it’s quite obvious she was overscored
Read the reddit and Twitter threads they're hilarious 😂 alot of ppl were like did you see Jessica's and her coach's face they KNEW it wasn't Gold Medal 🏅 worthy, those landings were bad. Jordan was SO gracious about it. 🤗. No one is showing that routine in practice for anyone to copy.
Abso-fuckin-lutely not!!! 🤯🤯 like were they even for real, with this scoring?! LoL I’m normally not one to even question judges scoring, but this was such an obvious and blatant display of favoritism, that I’d be crazy not to question if the judges were actually seeing the same routines that I was. Artistry is so very subjective and I think it leaves the door open for this to happen more frequently with higher scores being awarded based on the popularity of the gymnast. That being said, I do LOVE Jess G. but this just wasn’t a Gold (or even silver) medal worthy performance in my opinion.
It is well known though that judges are influenced by the crowd’s reaction to a performance. Plus there seems to be a self-fulfilling prophecy like "Oh, look, they’re performing in front of their home crowd. I'm sure they'll surpass themselves with that kind of support!" And then, surprise, surprise, they magically do …
@@mariusa.5863 you definitely aren’t wrong there. But if that’s the case, then the “artistry” 𝘿𝙀𝘿𝙐𝘾𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 should just be renamed the “crowd appeal” 𝘽𝙊𝙉𝙐𝙎,and then voila, problem solved. (Well, for the most part, anyway 🤷🏽♂️) But with the scoring system in its current iteration, there’s just no way (that I can fathom, where she wouldve come out on top… And with that astronomically high score!?)
So surprised that Jordan's execution score was so much lower than Jessica's when I thought they were about the same 🤨 maybe Jessica deserved the win but there's no way she was 4 tenths better than Jordan with significant landing deductions on each pass
I agree however she really lacked difficulty 3 passes with one being a double twist don’t know wether dance and performance and leaps should take over that much so that the tumbles are not as difficult as we have seen in floor finals before
@@Ryan.harvey123 her D score is helped by 2 D spins each with a 0.1 cv value (so basically 2 E elements). She still fufills the tumbling requrirments so it shouldnt matter where her D score comes from.
Her routine was less difficult than in the Olympics. Had she done the same tumbling from that competition and landed it, Jade probably would have run away with it.
What……. I counted about 8-9 tenths on Jess’s first pass alone and she somehow ended up with a 14.2 🤥 Love her so so much but that’s beyond ridiculous. 13.9 at BEST in my opinion
Ridiculous!!! The theft of the century. A routine quite poor in receptions and amplitude could never take that score neither in execution nor in difficulty, Jade and Rebeca were stolen
@@chewiegym2765 Yes how crazy to think race bias still exists! In Great Britain no less! 😮 lol clearly scoring is off in this competition and people are trying to understand why, I have no idea why the scores are wrong but it’s not really crazy to think it could be various biases. Especially considering how obvious it is that Gadirova (while a fantastic gymnast) did not deserve a higher score than Chiles.
Excuse my ignorance, but I have a question. Do gymnasts need to change their routines each year? I'm a little confused to see Rebeca doing the same routine as she did in the Olympics this year, so I don't really understand how all that goes. (And sorry if I missed any changes on the routine, but at least I remember the music was the same! :o )
They pretty much have the same routine and upgrade it over the years. You can watch a video about the evolution of Ally Raisman's routine as an example
Most of the elements of the routine are the same, but some gymnasts change the songs every quad and i don't think many change the song every year. Some gymnasts keep the same song for many years like Shang Chunsong. Rebeca had too many injuries over the last quad so she just kept the same song from 2018 until now. I heard rumors she already changed it for something new!
This focus on artistry is really hurting the most deserving and powerful gymnasts. Let’s be honest, most of us watch to see massive skills be thrown and be scored accordingly. Now it feels like you can have the easiest routine but as long as you dance pretty you win 😬
@@deepeshmathuria I’m with you completely, this entire championship kinda felt a little off. It seemed like there was a slight biased toward the twins, like separated legs and bent knees felt like they were being scored appropriately
This is the first time I ll say this judges were on to some sht or they were payed cuz Jessica is not good in execution terms and that routine was worth 3rd place at most, to be honest
Jordan and Rebeca are on another level with how light and effortless they make everything from tumbling to dance look 😍. Sadly it looks like they will need to adjust their style to appease these boring ass judges if they want to win though lol
Pior foi a Jade Carey com nota inferior que da Britânica - A Carey entra com a primeira acrobacia mais difícil de todas e finaliza com Sukahara, enquanto q as outras terminam c simples mortal. Muito roubo ! Sem falar q a britânica fez uma série inferior q a da Rebeca 🤦
Jordan did not get credit for that hop full. Her for dropped 3 quarters in but ev erything else was done way better than Carey. Carey pikes her body in every tumble and took 3 steps on one pass. That should have been much lower than Jordan.
I'm still mad about this floor final. Judges should feel ashamed, they killed the sport and the championship with their absurd and biased scoring. It shouldn't be acceptable.
Primer mundial en el que la final de barras es más interesante que la de suelo, se nota la ausencia de las rusas y las estadounidenses dejan mucho que desear con esas rutinas roboticas... Que paso con Flavia?
She did actually, but then they lower her score for it. The message was very clear " don't question us" . They also denied Andrade's inquiry. It was a strange day
@@mmawithsubtitles7460 not a strange day. A Horribly day! Jessica will recive a lot of hate, and she doesnt reserve that. Neither does she reserve the gold.
Gadirova 1st? Jade 3rd? Seriously? is seriously? We better wait for the Olympics where Carey, Chiles and more powerful gymnasts from the United States will surely come with more difficult routines. Well, they are in Liverpool, I almost forgot and that may explain everything.
I wish they posted protocols because *I've got a FEELING* somehow Visser probably got more artistry deductions than Gadirova. And if that's the case, we need to BURN. IT. DOWN.
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@@gymnastsinspire3724 dude....clearly you are the angry Karen. Lol. And I am not a fan of Great Britain.....you come across as insane in these comments. Lol.
@@pandamanda5606 I read it. Nothing has changed by you repeating yourself.
Funny how you just tried to reiterate your asinine point instead of replying to anything I said. Not once have you disputed the fact that Jessica was overscored and that is the only issue here. Not your fabricated nonsense.
Another truculent supercilious attention seeking troll it seems.
Her “heritage” is Azerbaijani, she is a first gen Brit. Ignorant
@@gymnastsinspire3724 oh stfu …..you are very hateful!
@@gymnastsinspire3724 the only thing vile is what is coming out of your mouth!
This is in no way meant as a derogatory comment but a genuine concern and also impressive observation on Naomi Visser. She is so tiny and its amazing how she has the strength to do those amazing tumbling passes. Beautiful to watch but her thin stature has me concerned for her wellbeing as she looks unwell. I hope she is ok and is being looked after. I know there is a chinese gymnast Shang Chunsong who was incredibly petite but was amazing. I think she is retired now. But she was malnourished as a child because of coming from a poor family. It's remarkable how she was able to do this sport and she did it for her brother who is blind and all her earnings have been for him and her family.
Gotta love all the gymnasts. They don't hesitate to offer a congratulations to gymnasts from a competing nation. Back in the '90's competing gymnasts would be sitting with vacant eyes. They gave fake wooden hugs to the competing nation at best.
Desde Tokio 2021 se vio ese cambio ❤️✨
The best floor from the competition wasn't there after all. Flavia Saraiva. 😭
I hope she bring back the same music next year. I simply love love her routine.
I was so sad she didn't finish the competition 😭
They need to let that poor girl completely heal her ankle. This ankle issue has been going on since before the Olympics.
@@jamm1227 I commented my concerns on a video of Flavia from the Paris WC and people accused me of hating on her. No, I can see as clear as day that the poor woman has ongoing ankle injuries! Would have loved to see her in the mix here.
@@chewiegym2765 its so frustrating smh. The same thing happened with Larissa Iordache. Such a lovely gymnast but its like they just did not pace her right with all those ankle issues. Just let them heal. Even if they have to miss a year or year and a half of competing. Extending their career and health in the long run should be the obvious choice here.
@@jamm1227 I agree with the need to rest, but I don't agree with the "they need to let her" narrative. She is an adult, she is capable of making decisions about her own health and career herself.
I have to be honest I was surprised at Jordan's score. I thought she should've scored much higher, personally I thought she did the best. As far as Jade goes, I think they need to work a lot harder on artistry. She's improved a lot, but there really isn't much dance in her routine at all and I think that the judges hammer her for that.
I'm glad Rebeca got a medal but I was SO hoping she'd win. And no Flavia 😩
Jade has artistry issues, yes. But I don't think it's for lack of working hard on it, and she has improved enormously over the last few years. Hopefully she can continue to improve, and I'm hoping Chellsie--who is great at artistry and an experienced judge--can help Jade hack her routine a bit better for some of the artistry requirements in the new code.
@@erinm9445 Agreed. imo, TEAM USA really should hire a Head Choreographer. Someone who reviews the routines and makes sure they meet the International Requirements.
Agree
She has not improved.
@@kinsellawasrobbed7515 I disagree. You can tell she put a lot of work into her choreo. Last quad she just kind of moved her arms and posed. I think she has improved a great deal! It's a shame how they constantly hammer her on artistry deductions. I really think the judges consistently under score her.
I love Jessica Gadirova. Really difficult passes, very clean and precise dance elements, good choreography and a lot of charisma. She really is so so talented, but this was not a routine that should have crowned her World Champion. 8.2 E for a routine with very visible errors and landing deductions on every single pass? I feel like these make discerning audiences rapidly turn on a gymnast because they feel they're receiving unfair treatment. It tarnishes her journey, unfortunately.
I also feel that Jordan has matured so much artistically. I remember that before she had a clunkier style and now her dance is much more flowy. I really thought she should have won the gold here although I love Gadirova.
Exatamente. Jordan, Rebeca e Jade com certeza foram totalmente superiores. Os 14.200 não condizem com o apresentado, sabendo que as outras tiveram um nível superior e jessica inferior... lamentável =(
She had two not perfect landing with hesitations. The leg back in a odd way, and leaning too forward on the second one.
@@battlehymnoftheempath3610 I think we have her NCAA experience to thank for that. It's great to see college gymnasts still competing (and excelling at) elite.
Agreed, I feel bad for Gadirova cause it’s incredibly obvious she didn’t earn gold. She did great, don’t get me wrong but yeah.. the scores were off.
PARABENS REBECA ANDRADE NOSSA ESTRELA.. LEVA EM SEU CORAÇAO A NOSSA BANDEIRA DO NOSSO AIS.. SOMOS ORGULHOSOS POR VC EXISTIR E NOS REPRESENTAR.. MESMO QUE NOSSO BRASIL NAO TENHA GRANDES INVESTIMENTOS NO ESPORTE.. MAS SOMOS BEM REPRESENTADOS POR PESSOAS COMO VC..
Dang, the E score is somehow inconsistent here, you just dance dance dance and get higher score then.
4:10 🇧🇷 ANDRADE Rebeca 🥉
8:15 🇳🇱 VISSER Naomi
12:15 🇮🇹 MAGGIO Martina
17:27 🇯🇵 MIYATA Shoko
23:00 🇺🇸 CHILES Jordan 🥈
27:02 🇺🇸 CAREY Jade 🥉
31:57 🇬🇧 GADIROVA Jennifer
36:28 🇬🇧 GADIROVA Jessica 🥇
Tnank you for this, Abe. Gadirova Jessica strongly reminded me on a section called fire dance from La Bayadere 🔥
I have been watching gymnastics for 20 years and can declare that the judging panel in Liverpool was like a generator of random numbers.
Gadirova didn't deserve a 14.2! Bad landing (all), bent knees, almost always falling forward. Ridiculous!
It was probably biased judging
@@potatochipz1267 I feel like she's been overscored the entire worlds
You' re absoluteky right. That was outrageous 🤬😤
Exactly!
She landed with her chest down and massive steps off every pass! 14.2????
HOW?!
I have to admit when I watch the Olympics, I really look forward to women's gymnastics more than anything else. I love how much our women have improved over the years.
This!!
I’m glad that Reb got a medal. Congrats to everyone. Bummed for Flavia
Hahahaaaaa ridículous cj gadirova nr 1hahaha but to cry!!!! Jade and Andrade together absolutely lovely. They should have been 1 and Jessica 3. This is clear for the whole world.
Yes. Even Chiles was better. This is outrageous
O Brasil todo também concorda 🇧🇷🥲
I understand they want more "artistry" we all do. But artistry can be subjective and the code should strive to have more validity among competitors. Fancy dancing shouldn't get a higher reward than complex tumbling.
I don't wanna see more "artistry". I wanna see them tumble spectacularly with fitting music to highlight it. The "dancing" should just be a way for them to regain power for the next tumble imho. But I totally agree on the rest.
Like especially at the end I enjoyed jade's dancing. I feel like they've gone tougher since the Olympics since people were mad cuz jade had simple dance and still won but idk.
Artistry is a lot more subjective.
@@mariusa.5863 YES !! 100% AGREE. 110%!!
Talk of Artistry I would be ok with Jessica’s score and win ….. if her artistry was pair as for example with Russian Gymnast Mustafina. When she did floor her routine was never about tumbling but her moves and artistry was EVERYTHING !!! Here I see Nothing special to get such a score , it’s not jer fault but smells like favoritism
Jordan Chiles has beautiful sportsmanship ♥️
I just wish Jade would emote more. She has killer choreography and execution, but I want to see the joy/passion in her face as well.
She looks passionated to me...its just her unique style...dont get why people hate on her choreo so much ...its just an issue with the requirements..stupid dance shouldn't be worth so much
I wish people would stop criticizing her personality and facial expressions and focus on her skill & talent.
@@dancefruitoasis facial expressions are absolutely not key to a great floor routine you’re insane
this was so clearly biased toward jessica 😭 im not one to call overscoring when my fav loses but this just doesn’t make sense even if you don’t know much about the sport. Jordan or Jade should have won regardless of if Jade’s artistry isn’t the best. Even I think Jessica was close to being on par with them, but nowhere near a 14.200 when everyone else is scoring 13.833???
Jessica actually is a favorite of mine, but I agree her E score was too high with the mistakes she made.
@@saramurray3057 yeah i agree i have nothing against jessica or her gymnastics it just didn’t make sense
@@user-kh9ki3kq8m yes when i saw that scoring was almost three tenths higher that was shocking. it wasn't right. cuz jades routine was so clean
I agree 200%!!!
Wasn't her floor score lower in AA too when it was much cleaner? Don't know what the judges were thinking this time
Sorry but how did Jessica Gadirova win? Those landing positions were atrocious. And the step-out? Bye.
Jade has upped her game on floor. Her artistry has vastly improved. I could hardly watch her routine at the Olympics… this one is very nice. Jessica had very clean chases and dance and her artistic work was great. Honestly her landings were not clean. I really don’t think that she was .5 ahead of Chiles and Carey…
I think Jade should have gotten the gold medal…
@@Trusova111 jade or Jordan would have made sense
A somewhat well-timed headroll can only do so much
@@thesovgc LOL. I agree but she’s right, this is a HUGE improvement for Jade. Artistically it’s not much but for Jade this is a great step forward to becoming watchable on floor.
In no way, shape, or form has Jades artistry improved. Its the same old American weird poses around the floor like they’re flopping around like seals.
Martina Maggio did all very well too.
I look forward to the Olympics every year they come around and I especially look forward to watching women’s gymnastics. It wasn’t until the last couple of years that I started being interested in the European championships and worlds. I am so happy to see countries at the top of the podium in team finals and individual all around finals that I have not seen before.
who’s your favorite gymnast?
You actually HAVE to laugh at that floor final. You can't ask too many questions, and we have to just accept the results. Because wtaf is going on?
Please read and understand this: www.gymnastics.sport/publicdir/rules/files/en_2022-2024%20WAG%20COP.pdf
Let me just highlight that the highest qualifier and one of the favourites to win, isn't there as she is injured. Flavia Saraiva, heartbreaking.
Why was she the top qualifier though? Did she even have one H skill in her routine?
Her opening tumble whip + double layout is equivalent to an H right?
She actually did a whip+tucked full in
(To be honest I'm glad she didn't compete the chuso at quals,that injury could have been worse and she could've fell just like Paris WC)
Rebeca você éa melhor do 🌎
Las gemelas son adorables, bailan y expresan mucho con su cuerpo, pero seamos honestos, Jordan Chiles es la legítima ganadora de la medalla de oro, buena dificultad, buena ejecución y sí baila también 👏👏
I hope Chiles doesn’t get discouraged in elite gymnastics the way Simone did. Albeit for different reasons, I feel those two rarely get the scores they deserve!
I don't understand how Carey and Jessica Gadirova both have a 6.0 difficulty in this final. Jade completes 4 passes and all the required leaps/turns, while Gadirova only has 3 less difficult tumbling passes and the same turn/leap requirements. Dance should have nothing to do with the difficulty, only execution. It doesn't make any sense how they have the same D score.
Dance elements have a D value so they add to the difficulty score. And when combined they have bonus. So they count to the difficulty as do the tumbles. And it makes total sense since they are extremely difficult to do well. Take Rebeca for example. She is more consistent with her tumbles, as a sky high Cheng and yet misses more than hits her Memmel turn. It all has to do with working to the best of your abilities. Jessica is very clean in her dance elements so she favours them to build up her D score.
The last Gadirova pass was like a save... she nearly fell.
It was a 0.3 hop and maybe 0.1 for insufficient prep for landing. Quick thinking and a great way to minimise deductions!!
Yup she did but that back flip covered it so much the judges forgot to deduct for that pass
I love 💗 watching the women floor exercise and can’t wait to see the 2024 summer Olympic Games with the floor exercise at the 2024 summer Olympic Games in Paris France 🇫🇷
I'll never understand that high note from Gadirova. It was not deserved, throughout the championship there were marks above the fair for British athletes. Rebecca e Chiles and are the true moral champions.
Don’t care. Yes I’m biased but that’s just not a 14.2 compared to Chiles
They could have easily swapped Chile's and Jessica's score and I would have thought it was fair tbh.
Chiles tried the Gogean but it was short. That cost her 0.3. And she didn't even get D credit. She was an idiot to try and upgrade for EF when she's literally never hit that leap.
Yes there were mistakes in Jessica's routine and the judges' scoring was high tbf. The other competitors did awesomely well
With all’s he respect her score was way too high. This is clear favoritism. That routine should’ve been 13.6-13.8 tops
What do you mean "favoritism"? None of the judges are british.
@@mattj5391 They don't have to be British, judging favors home country most of the time
@@gym_analysis not sure if i agree with that so much but they were definitely not favouring the rest of the brit's routines. i found kinsella's bar score and courtney's ring score harshly marked tbh
How did this gadirova routine get the highest marks? She only has three stunts and in the three she landed with imbalances having to jump forwards and backwards, that was stolen, Jade and Andrade deserved more.
having only 3 tumbling passes helps her execution score since there are less deductions than there would be if there were 4. a lot about execution scores is clever routine construction which Gadirova has here
@@emmar6304 Having three passes helps in the execution but loses in the difficulty and we know that both are important for the note, but it turns out that their execution was not good, if it were to justify this, all three were bad, none of them pinned, all with backward jumps or forward, andrade and jade had better landings and others similar to hers, and the routine of the two was more difficult, so where did all that note of hers come from? for me she was privileged because she was an athlete from the host house, a stolen note, Jade and Andrade deserved more.
Not fair at all 🤬
@@tiagoribeiro6759 jade has the maximum artistry deductions you can have in this code which is why her score is low. team GB have done good work with their floor routines by minimising built in deductions and having bonuses for artistry. also just because a country is hosting a championship does not mean they overscore their gymnasts on purpose. the host country doesn't matter because obviously the panel of judges come from all different countries in the world, not just the UK as in this case
@@emmar6304 You talk so much about her performance, but they weren't good in the arrivals and landings, I still think her grade was too high than she actually deserved, I'm not a judge, but a dance to overcome all those difficulties presented by Jade and Andrade is something difficult, the artistic is important I know, Andrade also has a good artistic besides the difficulties, he continued thinking that Gadirova had a grade above what he deserved.
These women did amazing routines, however, I am shocked that Jessica Gadirova won the gold. Her landings on the tumbling passes were not clean and steady. The level of difficulty was there, but I don’t understand how she outscored Jordan AND Rebecca?
It’s obvious that the judges was waiting to give Jessica the highest score. They would gave her twin the silver medal had not she step out of bounds. The judges made sure not to give any of the other gymnast 14 points to stage gold and silver medals. She had obvious flaws. Jordan should won. Yes Jessica did good routine to get a medal but not gold. It’s all politics!!!
Jordan should have WON…im not even bias but she has the dance chore, difficult, artistry, and technique….if you swapped score with Gadirova it would make sense.
The first tumbling of Jessica (double twisting double back) was not correctly executed in the air…. Her body was straight in the beginning… a bit weird.. did she get deducted for the her score?
Rebbeca andrade routine was amazing as well I think she should have scored higher than Jessica gidirova
the only making jess win was the fact that she can dance. she should not have been on the podium at all. jordan, jade and Rebecca should hve been the top 3. judges were favoring the dancing a lot
The over emphasis on “artistry” has gotten a little ridiculous. Artistry is a lot more subjective.
@@Appaddict01 exactly... like ok Jade isn't a dancer but she looks good with her routine, they dont dance 30h/week they flip. so score them on their flips. its ridiculous
@@Appaddict01 exactly... this is gymnastics not a dance competition
Jessica Gadirova full of flaws in the series and came in 1st? Shameful... Not belittling the gymnast. But the Americans and the Brazilians were much better.
Yeah social media is on fire 🔥 about Jessica winning NO one nit even former Olympians believe she won that. Judges WTH? Smh
Yeah. I think Jessica probably had the Americans beat on artistry but all her her passes were a bit sloppy, didn't hit 180 on all her split jumps...score was quite generous.
Team USA the best.
По сути без серьезной конкуренции смотреть ЧМ было скучно , сложность практически у всех от 5 до 5.5 максимум , чисто все снаряды не прошел никто !
@@sweetpeaces4206 Сборная России самая лучшая ! Наши гимнастки артистичны , изящны и сложность достаточно высокая ! Здесь ни одна сборная не прошла чисто все снаряды ! Мне понравились гимнастки из Бразилии !
Excellent video.
Jessica's choreography is just wow!
От слова , хореографии нет совсем !!!
@user-ip8gx6ep2z Get your eyes tested.
How did Jade’s difficulty go from 6.1 to 5.9? How was Jessica’s execution higher than Jordan’s? 🤔
How is Jordan's execution higher than Jessica's? Jade got downgrades on her dance elements.
Ridículous and shameless
@@mattj5391 how is it not?
I don't think they gave her credit for the L hop.
@@niseplank4527 You might be right.
They mess it up Andrade music and no commentator talks about it.
Oh I'm 100% sure they intentionally did that. They knew she was a big medal contender
Excellent performance by all the gymnasts. The judges? Not so much.
Judges did a great job.
@@frozenukrainianprincess lol
What a shame! How come Great Britain have won gold with that below average performance? Something is not right.
I feel really bad for Jessica who is stuck in the middle of the backlash. While I believe the complaints are valid and the judges were off in their judgement, I think this amount of criticism has to be hard to read. I truly wish we could have had fair and objective judging to avoid all of this for the athletes sake.
**Also side note, I agree with people that artistry can be very subjective. Each gymnast is going to have their own style of dance that fits their floor routine and personality.
I really like this podium but i really don’t get the E scores, i am no way an expert but i thought Martina and especially Naomi’s routines were very clean so I don’t get why they scored lower than 8???
Difficulty.
@@rosee7011 They aren't talking about difficulty, they're specifically talking about the execution scores. (I haven't seen the routines yet so I don't have an opinion on how they were scored yet).
I honestly think the cop and the judges have gone too far.
@@rosee7011 that’s the D score not the E score…difficulty is the base score (if they complete everything)
i also thought martina’s floor was one of the cleanest ones and it also had a fair amount of difficulty too and good artistry. she should’ve been higher imo.
Gadirova is a golden girl but she did not deserve gold here.
Bravissima Jessica!
I never knew of Naomi prior to these worlds but God I fucking love her floor!
I can’t wait to see Simone biles and jade Carey and Chase Kalisz and Caeleb Dressel and Suni lee and Katie Ledecky at the 2024 summer Olympic Games in Paris France 🇫🇷
Ok….just got done watching this…..How did Gadirova win? Based on the rules, she had a .3 step/hop on each one of her tumbling. The last pass was pretty short of rotation. Here is how I saw the podium:
Gold - Chiles
Silver - Andrade
Bronze - Visser/Carey
I could be wrong. I look forward to seeing what others think.
Well she’s British in her town so..
You are very very wrong. The expert Panel of 7 internationally recognised judges all disagreed with you.
@@mattj5391 well it’s pretty obvious they’re biased, i was a gymnast, and have watching and around gymnastics essentially my entire life, but it’s quite obvious she was overscored
The brits were given gifts through the entire meet. Inflated scores given to help their cause.
Read the reddit and Twitter threads they're hilarious 😂 alot of ppl were like did you see Jessica's and her coach's face they KNEW it wasn't Gold Medal 🏅 worthy, those landings were bad. Jordan was SO gracious about it. 🤗. No one is showing that routine in practice for anyone to copy.
The power of the home court advantage!
exactly!!!!!!
The girl from Japan did her routine to the best vocalist in the world’s version of Diva Dance. I am so impressed.
Abso-fuckin-lutely not!!! 🤯🤯 like were they even for real, with this scoring?! LoL I’m normally not one to even question judges scoring, but this was such an obvious and blatant display of favoritism, that I’d be crazy not to question if the judges were actually seeing the same routines that I was. Artistry is so very subjective and I think it leaves the door open for this to happen more frequently with higher scores being awarded based on the popularity of the gymnast. That being said, I do LOVE Jess G. but this just wasn’t a Gold (or even silver) medal worthy performance in my opinion.
There were no british judges on the floor panel tho. I do think Jess's score was a bit high, but she's gotten 8+ E scores outside of the UK this year.
It is well known though that judges are influenced by the crowd’s reaction to a performance. Plus there seems to be a self-fulfilling prophecy like "Oh, look, they’re performing in front of their home crowd. I'm sure they'll surpass themselves with that kind of support!" And then, surprise, surprise, they magically do …
@@mariusa.5863 you definitely aren’t wrong there. But if that’s the case, then the “artistry” 𝘿𝙀𝘿𝙐𝘾𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 should just be renamed the “crowd appeal” 𝘽𝙊𝙉𝙐𝙎,and then voila, problem solved. (Well, for the most part, anyway 🤷🏽♂️) But with the scoring system in its current iteration, there’s just no way (that I can fathom, where she wouldve come out on top… And with that astronomically high score!?)
Se fosse para ganhar pela arte no solo, Rebeca ganha de todas!!
So surprised that Jordan's execution score was so much lower than Jessica's when I thought they were about the same 🤨 maybe Jessica deserved the win but there's no way she was 4 tenths better than Jordan with significant landing deductions on each pass
It was 0.166 lower. D score for Jordan was 0.2 lower
The gymnasts in this Final that meet the brief for me re: the name of your channel--Naomi Visser.
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I LOVED Naomi Visser's routine! I really wish they would reward more for creativity. That exemplified it! She sold it, and performed it so well!
Makes sense to reward “creativity” because that isn’t subjective at all
I agree however she really lacked difficulty 3 passes with one being a double twist don’t know wether dance and performance and leaps should take over that much so that the tumbles are not as difficult as we have seen in floor finals before
@@Ryan.harvey123 her D score is helped by 2 D spins each with a 0.1 cv value (so basically 2 E elements). She still fufills the tumbling requrirments so it shouldnt matter where her D score comes from.
How is it possible that the Olympic Gold Medalist has a lower score than the others😮
No artistry at all. Just tumbling thats why
Her routine was less difficult than in the Olympics. Had she done the same tumbling from that competition and landed it, Jade probably would have run away with it.
It happens.
Gadirova overscored! 😡
Judging were like a roller coaster every other day it was overscoring then underscoring
Is there an NBC version of this broadcast?
i cried with happiness for her.
What……. I counted about 8-9 tenths on Jess’s first pass alone and she somehow ended up with a 14.2 🤥 Love her so so much but that’s beyond ridiculous. 13.9 at BEST in my opinion
Ridiculous!!!
The theft of the century.
A routine quite poor in receptions and amplitude could never take that score neither in execution nor in difficulty, Jade and Rebeca were stolen
Naomi was BEAUTIFUL! If girls are getting heavy deductions for artistry, she shouldnt!
Honestly, I think they are scoring her based on her appearance. Body shaming is a thing.
@@rosee7011 no they are not
@@Simon-oy7kf people are grasping at anything now. Someone tried to make Jordan's score a race issue earlier 🤦♀️
@@chewiegym2765 yt people like you won't get the issue
@@chewiegym2765 Yes how crazy to think race bias still exists! In Great Britain no less! 😮 lol clearly scoring is off in this competition and people are trying to understand why, I have no idea why the scores are wrong but it’s not really crazy to think it could be various biases. Especially considering how obvious it is that Gadirova (while a fantastic gymnast) did not deserve a higher score than Chiles.
There is NOOOO way Jessica outscored Rebecca, Jade & Jordan .NOPE
Agreeddd
Nope nope nope as soon as her stepped out that was it for me none of her landing where good
Excuse my ignorance, but I have a question. Do gymnasts need to change their routines each year? I'm a little confused to see Rebeca doing the same routine as she did in the Olympics this year, so I don't really understand how all that goes. (And sorry if I missed any changes on the routine, but at least I remember the music was the same! :o )
They pretty much have the same routine and upgrade it over the years. You can watch a video about the evolution of Ally Raisman's routine as an example
Most of the elements of the routine are the same, but some gymnasts change the songs every quad and i don't think many change the song every year. Some gymnasts keep the same song for many years like Shang Chunsong. Rebeca had too many injuries over the last quad so she just kept the same song from 2018 until now. I heard rumors she already changed it for something new!
I loved Naomi Visser her routine, she should at least have gotten an 8+ E
This focus on artistry is really hurting the most deserving and powerful gymnasts. Let’s be honest, most of us watch to see massive skills be thrown and be scored accordingly. Now it feels like you can have the easiest routine but as long as you dance pretty you win 😬
FX will turn into dance moms soon
Jess LITERALLY had more difficulty than Chiles haha
@@mattj5391 I think Jessica definitely is the winner it's just that her E score did feel well iffy considering the performance.
@@deepeshmathuria I was actually thinking the same thing as I was watching the twins!
@@deepeshmathuria I’m with you completely, this entire championship kinda felt a little off. It seemed like there was a slight biased toward the twins, like separated legs and bent knees felt like they were being scored appropriately
This is the first time I ll say this judges were on to some sht or they were payed cuz Jessica is not good in execution terms and that routine was worth 3rd place at most, to be honest
O roubo , a atleta da casa não merecia o primeiro lugar! No máximo o quarto
Jessica’s routine was nice but her landings were nowhere near gold medal worthy. Chest down on every pass. Judges were bias!
Jordan and Rebeca are on another level with how light and effortless they make everything from tumbling to dance look 😍. Sadly it looks like they will need to adjust their style to appease these boring ass judges if they want to win though lol
Look at all these negative comments. Look how happy she is she’s won gold. Can we all just be happy for her a stop complaining!
How are you so fast? ☠️
JADE IS STUNNING. SHE DESERVE THE GOLD.
Esse 14.200 foi a nota mais roubada na cara dura da história da ginástica
Rebeca fez uma apresentacao Mais completa, isso foi até visto no individual geral, foi roubado sim rebeca merecia a prata no minimo.
Pior foi a Jade Carey com nota inferior que da Britânica - A Carey entra com a primeira acrobacia mais difícil de todas e finaliza com Sukahara, enquanto q as outras terminam c simples mortal. Muito roubo ! Sem falar q a britânica fez uma série inferior q a da Rebeca 🤦
Gadirova super overscored
What a Joke! Thanks Liverpool.
I'm sorry but Jordan Chiles was robbed. BIG TIME. (And I'm saying this as a Brazilian, 100% Rebeca stan)
Jordan did not get credit for that hop full. Her for dropped 3 quarters in but ev erything else was done way better than Carey. Carey pikes her body in every tumble and took 3 steps on one pass. That should have been much lower than Jordan.
In the team finals jess deserved that 14.4 this routine scored a 14.2 with more obvious deductions. She got gold but the score shouldn’t have broke 14
According to these judges MyKyla Skinner should have been floor Olympic champ 💀
Is this Christine Still? I really need to incorporate "untidy" into my vocabulary.
I'm still mad about this floor final. Judges should feel ashamed, they killed the sport and the championship with their absurd and biased scoring. It shouldn't be acceptable.
Primer mundial en el que la final de barras es más interesante que la de suelo, se nota la ausencia de las rusas y las estadounidenses dejan mucho que desear con esas rutinas roboticas...
Que paso con Flavia?
Wish Martina would have medaled here. What are her deductions?
Did Jade put in an inquiry for her score? If so, she got Karad.😬😬
You aren't allowed to argue with E score
She did actually, but then they lower her score for it. The message was very clear
" don't question us" . They also denied Andrade's inquiry.
It was a strange day
@@Simon-oy7kf I’m aware.
@@mmawithsubtitles7460 not a strange day. A Horribly day! Jessica will recive a lot of hate, and she doesnt reserve that. Neither does she reserve the gold.
@@margotloeffen4221 Yeah, that gold is shaped as a Trojan Horse. Especially sad considering her age.
They need new judges... This is an atrocity to The Gymnastics worldwide.. WTF,,, Jade and Jordan should be 1, 2.. .The End
The BEST GLADIATOR !! JESSICA THE GREAT !!! 😄😘😘😘
Gadirova 1st? Jade 3rd? Seriously? is seriously? We better wait for the Olympics where Carey, Chiles and more powerful gymnasts from the United States will surely come with more difficult routines. Well, they are in Liverpool, I almost forgot and that may explain everything.
She had a lot of errors. Flex feet and did not stick any of her landings and she went out of bounds. Just that would put her in 3rd behind jade carey
Wrong gadirova that when OOB
eita o pix da Gadirova caiu. Que final "estranha"
Wow. She's talented but not 1st.
Esse atleta da gran btretanha, e uma gracinha. Filé😆😆🙊💙💖
I wish they posted protocols because *I've got a FEELING* somehow Visser probably got more artistry deductions than Gadirova. And if that's the case, we need to BURN. IT. DOWN.