Thermal Camouflage Part 1: Setting the Stage
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00:00 - Introduction
03:23 - How Optical Sensors Work
04:21 - "Invisible Light"
09:58 - Quantum Phyics Simplified
11:04 - How Thermal Sensors Work
14:59 - Detection, Recognition, Identification
18:00 - Key Takeaway
20:00 - Is it Worth it?
23:23 - Deception Basics
27:17 - A Game of Cat and Mouse
28:20 - Weather
32:54 - NIBs
39:48 - Adversary's Training and Equipment
42:46 - Factors of Recognition
44:04 - Position
47:54 - Shape
52:00 - Movement
54:53 - Additional Thoughts
57:24 - Commercial Warnings
1:01:29 - Closing Thoughts
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This video deserves an award. As a former Physics teacher, I sincerely appreciate it.
Western Mercenary goes to Buhkmut with $10000 in kit... gets immediately hit by a $100 rubble soviet era shell.
The entire channel Pat
Yea keep it up
His content is exactly what I want from UA-cam....free and informative. Truly informative on a high level
@@TheBelrick Rubble? 🙄
Back when I was a 15W and didn't have an active mission, I would run experiments with my soldiers to see what the best way to hide from a drone was. I would cage my payload, and they would run off into the woods with a radio. They would then give me a 4 digit grid (simulated NAI), and they would have to try and get back to base without being spotted. Super fun and super educational. Best thing I've seen that worked was ghillie suits made of camo nets or low crawling under the canvas camo net storage bags. Staying in the trees helps too. It's hard to hide from a drone, but not impossible.
I found a cape with a layer of mylar glued to bubble wrap followed by standard camo material works very well.
@@m14lvr that bubble wrap makes a spectacular barrier for insulating your body heat. You’re a smart feller.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again until a dog smells your sweaty sweat sweating everything up
I've heard a fireman suit works very well
Grrrrr
This is the best and most well thought out video I’ve seen in thermal.
By far, up untill now it's just been reruns of "look at my pee thru Thermals" and "Farts in Thermals "
For anyone interested in "affordable" (sub-$10k) surveillance drones, there are 2 good options (both are quadcopters): The Autel Evo Max 4T, and the DJI Mavic 3T. The Autel Evo II Dual 640T is also an option, with the same thermal camera as the other two, but the daylight camera sucks. The Autel Evo Max 4T is a $9000 "search and rescue" drone with a high resolution FLIR camera, 160x zoom daylight camera, millimeter wave radar, laser rangefinder, automatic target recognition and tracking system, and a 12 mile transmission range. If that's too expensive, the DJI Mavic 3T is a cheaper alternative at only $5000, and is equipped with the same FLIR camera, but has a less powerful 56x zoom daylight camera, 9 mile transmission range, and none of the other features (radar, rangefinder, tracking system) of the Evo Max 4T.
I am a Wildland firefighter. We have something called a fire shelter that we carry with us so if a fire flashes up or we lose the backdoor them we can deploy the shell and be able to be identified after the fires moved on. So they have a shelf life and they can be bought new/used. There are many layers to them all put together. Yes it is like the blankets that have been mentioned but all the layers are there to keep the heat out as they shield 1000's of degrees. Now if you use IR pain or cover with local foliage to break up the signature of it. Spray it an anti IR paint or product
I cant imagine having to use one of those on a wild fire, cant think of many other worse scenarios. Blanket coffins
Took part in some testing of the thermal blankets used to protect seedlings to hide hot motors and our positions..
We shipped a hundred over to Southern Africa .. they worked fairly well ,but not perfect , foil and thermal blankets were not much better..
I got my degree in physics and then engineering. Just recently got into this SHTF stuff over the last few years. It appears this channel is designed specifically for me lol keep up the good work!
I have used thermal cameras to find energy leaks in houses. The sensitivity of the camera changes based on the hottest and coldest temperatures it sees. If one has the ability to increase the number of hot and cold things in the area, it can distract and make hiding easier. In a ruined town, scattering aluminum roofing which could radiate and reflect cold from the sky, and then fill a large number of containers with water would provide some additional hot and or cold objects which might distract the ability of a camera to focus on the smaller temperature variations. Covering things with plastic, like a little greenhouse, would also increase the temperature differences through the day night cycle. Increasing thermal clutter, might have a low impact on the ability to hide.
I'd live to see a video covering the recently captured "spider system" from wagner mercenaries, that detects incoming lasers and orients the soldier to their point of origin.
I had not heard of this. Seems pretty smart, and I would imagine not that complicated to make.
Pretty sure he talked about such a system in a recent video.
Gen 3 night vision does not need Illuminaters , the only time they would see your laser sights is when you turn them on. The that time your dead already
Hi there, any link? Thanks
Does it only detect lasers? Or does it also detect lasers in a red dot/holo/illuminated reticle sight?
I like how you mention that pilot boredom makes their detection of targets to decrease significantly.
Makes me wonder how much pattern recognition AI will help the pilot to identify targets. The machine doesn’t get tired or bored.
You are a true American patriot , not for your service in the military, but for the information you provide to people who can see what is coming and want to gain as much knowledge as possible while we still can. Thank you for the service you are doing for us rn. I get somewhat triggered when my brothers in arms “vets” that say “I fought for your/our freedom(s).” No. What you are doing here is more service to preserving our freedom than any veteran that went over seas.
Retired after 24 years...never once fought for freedom, share holder value sure; freedom no, not at all.
@@flyingsword135 I hear that. I was inspired by Major Winters to join the military, but as I got closer and closer, I realized you couldn't with all practicality, be the level of man and officer that he was, in today's US Armed Forces. Especially TODAY'S.
I respect all military big time but ya we could have skipped the last couple wars and been fine. We should have did something about the USS Liberty.
@@ellifahmerril6611 So you're all ProudBoys now, right? BS!
@@VARocketry proud boys are fed
You bring a lot to the table for us civilians. Don't just "shut up and talk about gear"... Keep up the good work! It appreciated! 👍
It's worth noting that thermal imagers have made a big difference in search & rescue. It's much easier to find a lost child in the forest at night with thermal than a flashlight. That can mean the difference between a rescue or a recovery.
Maybe we would be better off to sacrifice lost people in the woods to buy us freedom from a malevolent leviathan hell bent on destroying all who oppose it.
@@ozarkman291 exactly how would letting a lost kid die of hypothermia alone and frightened in the woods do anything to stop the "malevolent leviathan" you speak of?
@@stewpacalypse7104 what I mean is that the consequences of living in a world without thermal are preferable to living in a world with thermal. What the technology will be used for negatively in this case outweighs the positives. This can similarly be argued with many other forms of technology. They may provide some instant increase in ease of life or heightened quality of it but the side effects are unpredictable and often worse than the problem the technology was there to alleviate. As an example of this is the remote surveillance camera, it can deter crime and aid in solving serious legal issues, however it can also be used to enforce a totalitarian police state that ends up being a bigger threat to the average person than the crime that the security camera was able to prevent. A lot of times our solutions cause new and bigger problems, and the greater power the solution has, the greater the power of it's dangers amplify as well.
@@ozarkman291 The most dangerous thing affecting you is PARANOIA. Thinking that organisations are out to spy on every individual using thermal cameras is frankly ludicrous. It's totally impractical, generally of limited usefulness and downright expensive. Unless of course you're known or suspected to be engaging in certain activities that are illegal, and high profile, such as terrorism etc. Then most people would agree you deserve to be tracked. But thermal would be the least of your worries.
@@another3997 considering that parents that don't want their children to have required drag queen story hour are on the FBI terror list the requirements to be tracked are pretty low. You or I could be on the list tomorrow as another idea is deemed incorrect.
Thank you so much for teaching us nasty civilians these important lessons.🇺🇸❤️
I'd be more concerned with the criminals, drug mules, etc. But, I'm pretty sure that they already know these techniques.
@@tyree9055 Their pervasiveness implies as much, or the complicity of selective enforcement.
Yeah, we undesirables should know nothing but work and die!
@@roxasparks
Yea, and once you cannot work any longer you are downgraded to “useless eater” classification.
You can imagine what comes next.
@@timothythompson7388 what's wrong tim ?we all gonna die sometime .
Not only the best thermal video regarding history, science, detection, eluding, but one of the best videos I've ever watched, multiple times, on UA-cam. Exceptional in all aspects. Thank you, S2!
You may like mental outlaw channel.
I served in US Special Ops and own my own thermal. From my experience, i think the easiest way to counter being spotted is to distort your own image/outline. If you could wear something that allowed several inches of space between it and you, that would stop the infrared from getting to the sensor. In my experience looking at the mountains behind my house, rock seems to appear warmer than grass and trees, even in the winter. I've also noticed that if you don't move, it's harder to detect you when you are right next to rocks on the mountain.
So if you had some kind of suit that had a rocky material exterior and allowed several inches of space between you and it and you crouched down near rocks, blending in with the rocks and crouching down to distort your outline as a human, with your suit bocking the majority of the IR waves.. i think you'd have something. The key thing is to stay motionless and in a position that doesn't outline you as a human if you know you're being looked for.
Yes, the problem is that you are basically not mobile with such an outfit. It Isn't only drones you're up against but usually the whole arsenal with boots on the ground. You have to think of the noise the material makes just as the camo in the visible spectrum and for sure how it hinders your movement and engaging in combat in general. Rocks are great as you mentioned, because they are a great heat accumulator and stay warmer than the surroundings all through the day and night.
Since you're an operator, Is there any training in mimicking wildlife under IR observation? I know that the optics combine IR and standard "NV" wavelengths to overlay them and let the user see outlines of the object and it's heat spectrum, so i think this would be very difficult. Hiding your outlines is basically only possible to hide in brushwood and seem like a part of it with the options already mentioned, right?
There are some camo suits made of special fibers that doesn't scatter IR from the inside of the wearer like normal cloth, basically distorting the usual appearance an operator on the other side would expect to see if he was looking for a person. However, the effect is not that big and usually works only with something like a ghilie added and of course you cannot move while being observed. Do you guys had to wear the standard ACU/BDU? I think it was a very recent introduction and no official armed forces have implemented them yet, because the effect isn't that great.
@@bogeydope3022 I got out before the 2010's after getting shot twice. I was medically retired. We had thermal scopes available to our snipers at the time. We were NEVER instructed on any kind of means to avoid detection by them at that time, likely because we had the monopoly on them at that time, like we pretty much also did with night vision. Now times have changed. There are videos on youtube that i haven't watched thoroughly that discuss hiding from thermal. I think that right now it's probably a pretty desirable thing to learn how to best hide from it. Obviously running around in the open is the worst thing you could do. Wearing some kind of suit that breaks up your outline so that you don't look human is what i believe would be pretty effective. I also think you could design it in such a way that you could walk/stalk while wearing it. I realize it's probably a terrible analogy but think Karate Kid with that shower costume on at the Halloween party. Something like that and learn where to walk and where not to to draw attention to yourself.
Ive been thinking about a solution for thermal camouflage, and came up with the following: A windscreen and a beach umbrella in a fabric that also camouflages in IR light (flecktarn or ss partisan blend in really well). With a camonet over them. That leaves enough space so heat does not build up. If you put that over a dug in position or a trench, you should be able to blend in really well and still be able to move around the position a bit.
Greetings,
Jeff
Anything I've come up with exploits air gaps as well. You *have* to lose the heat. You don't want it to build up both for comfort reasons as well as the idea the sensors really like that.
So the trick to me seems to be the *form* it takes as it escapes...
Layering reflective and absorptive materials, alternating, with a means to maintain a space between layers.
This all starts to sound heavy given the mention of even a wool blanket being problematic, but fundamentally I think is the general direction to go in.
Insulation has the effect of blurring, as the primary mechanism is slowing transfer, the result being it "pools up" because of the thermal mass of the insulator, delaying and mixing before arrival at a sensor.
Reflection of course bounces heat back in the general direction it is coming from (in this context), preventing it from reaching the sensor directly as well.
In both cases if the heat is not allowed to escape, it builds up and the entire area begins to glow, possibly giving away the position. You need the combination in some way to keep the energy in check - heat is a shapeshifter and loves to find an equilibrium between convection, conduction, and radiation when given the chance.
A material that alternates between insulation and reflection with air gaps to allow convective cooling, allows the heat from bodies to mostly escape via air, and doesn't allow the "outer" (sensor-pointing) layer to build up heat, keeping the ambient temp. The layers both blur the IR and cool overall as the heat works its way outward.
This of course does not account for different black body emission rates (the idea that 2 objects of different composition but the same temperature may not emit either the same amount or quality (band) of light, and therefore could appear different than each other and therefore likely the surroundings.)
The answer to this is the outer most layer should be made of "local natural material" such as foliage or the like. That part is of course "long known", but the reasoning may or may not be fully understood, or may just be thought of as an extension of visible camo, so I figure I'd mention it.
I realize this now sounds like some fantasy magic material on par with "transparent aluminum" 🤣... but the idea is solid at the physics level if someone can work it out at a practical level.
To pick on something sorta randomly within the video... 9:45
The one truck comes to mind. You can see the headlights which is rather intuitive, but also that the engine is a Vee of some sort and the orientation makes it a "gearbox" configuration (vs transaxle) a detail that is also expected, and that an observer could use to characterize the truck.
This is visible because steel isn't particularly great at hiding signatures, nor is the engine near ambient temp, so it stands out readily. Some of that is of course "shining thru" the radiator, but you can also see it revealing the two warm spots where the heads are via the hood as well. This is the area I'm going to pick on here, as the radiator would be handled with similar but differing methods.
Just the simple addition of a thin layer of insulation and a layer of aluminum on the other side of that, and the engine would all but disappear into a "ballish glow". Throw some foliage on top of that and it will spread even more if the coverage is adequate. It will never be perfect, as mentioned, but greatly "smeared".
You can see a sort of preview of this effect in another spot where a car is following another, and one of them has no insulation in the hood. ( 38:58 )
The engine signature in the following vehicle is obvious, where in the car it is following, it is all but invisible.
Shouldn't be a problem on the ground for humans at all... a little extra thought about shapes and dimensions of lower layers, overall height, air gaps between layers, and the final outer most layer shape and material... If it weren't for that one pesky thing...
Like dude said, paraphrased, "heavy isn't good", and then there's the whole "nothing works when you're moving"... So I'm not sure mine is worth taking beyond the lab either 🤷♂️🤣
I like the mesh concept, as it is basically a mixture of the two ideas in one material, scattering the light in all different directions while also impeding the direct incidence on a sensor, yet it clearly has shortcomings as well. Best of both worlds? Worst? The usual finicky mixture? 🤣
Fun to think about tho I guess. I don't see myself ever actually "using" the information either way. I run down rabbit holes to understand things but practical application is never anything like a lab... but who knows. The info is there. 🤷♂️
That's what I was thinking too. Hot air doesn't show up, only hot solids or liquids.
I've watched most of your videos if not all...I just want to say thank you for all the work you do
Very well done. 15 years of ISR experience in special operations, and the lack of movement has had me doubt myself a few more times than I'd like to admit.
When I got my recon training 1987 in the cold war, we actually assumed that any Hind would take us out soon and we trained how to bury ourself in order to cover IR emission. With this video, we would have been somehow cooler, I guess. Cooler by signature but also less anxious. 😊 Great video!
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Outstanding!!! Great job as always S2U crew, thanks for everything, this stuff is worth way more than gold.
If you have a camera which is near IR sensitive, you can use it to see a stove glow IR hot even when it's not glowing red hot.
Yep, sure can! NVGs work great for this
Got an example?
Is this a sensor that’s in a certain phone or drone, maybe an attachment device…?
Thanks!
@@My_Alchemical_Romance Any camera which can see the IR of a TV remote should be able to see the IR of a stove just cooler than red hot. Decades ago when we used I used IR film, I took photos using visible light film and IR film. I was attempting to demonstrate that IR film could see thermal but only thermals so hot the item is almost red hot. Just like most red things in normal life aren't red hot, most near IR things aren't glowing IR hot.
There were a lot of misconceptions about IR film. I was attempting to show IR film isn't really capturing the heat from objects. Most IR light captured with near IR sensitive devices is reflected IR light. A very hot stove is a rare example of when an object is glowing with near IR light.
Fortunately, FBI glow can be detected without the need for any special equipment.
@@S2Underground- Night Vision Goggles?
The last few minutes of the video calling out the civilian tactical complex was great. I really respect this channel more for that take. Im glad i found you and hope you're on youtube indefinitely
I want to thank you for all the work you do gathering, editing, and putting out the real dope on topics. I have monitored this channel for some time, and no offense, have verified your content with other trusted sources. The world we find ourselves in today is very dangerous and getting more so each day. Even though I have had access to and training, much of which you cover you still delivers information I did not get from expensive military produced courses over my 20+ years on active duty.
As a civilian now, I appreciate your bringing this information to light for those whom are smart enough to benefit from it. The average citizen has no clue what's going on in the world around them and should be grateful for your efforts. From a military standpoint your content would give me pause, TTP's are guarded for a reason but we all know three people can keep a secret only if two are dead.
Bravo Zulu, keep up the good work.
Awesome return to form, thanks for the in depth content as always
An hour long video explaining exactly how f**ked you are going up against thermals. Love it
Don’t worry, if you’re kilometers away they can only detect a 1 degree temperature change
🤣 😂right lol. I had hope in the beginning of the video and seeing it was an hour long and all the scientific talk i was waiting for the secret miracle on evading flir only to end up saying.. yup...still pretty much f**ked 🤣
Are you expecting to be tracked by people with thermal cameras? If so, what exactly have you done to warrant such scrutiny?
@another3997 you never know lol. I've tracked people with thermal. Really hard to hide from it. Glad we had it.
One of the coolest, most educational videos about thermal,that separates itself to include awesome bits of information about drones, visual spectrum, physics, military tactics that in return is all related to understanding thermal that's been fun, entertaining and informative that I've seen on A long time.
Excellent video. Thank you for your honesty and clarity. Anyone paying attention is deeply concerned. What really matters is becoming clearer.
One of the best documentary style video Ive seen ever. I truly felt like I was given classified Information. This is pure gold. This channel is pure gold
This video is by far the best all in one source that I have viewed on thermal and thermal camouflage challenges and capabilities! Bravo!👏🏻
I'm glad you included the further reading from the field manuals. As I've said before it's really hard to get good practical information on field manuals and your videos are exactly the type I want to see. Thank you for the hard work and information.
S2 is doing the Lord's work. Thank you.
Love this! You are right, evading thermal sensors is hard. The market can be full of scammers. I have been looking at just visual camouflage lately and that is every bit as complex.
It's even harder than you think!
Don't forget that at twilight theres a short gap when thermals basically stop working and its not quite dark enough for NVGs. Theres your gap to infil/exfil without reliable tracking/id
Yes, I can see some of the uses.
So you saw Reign of Fire too?
@@stewpacalypse7104 nope
As someone who lives under the ever-watchful eye of a US CBP Pred-B platform here along the SW border, these videos are a great refresher...and succinct - yet comprehensive enough - that I can share with my non-CM friends & family.
Wasn't expecting such high quality video with such depth. This is a hidden gem. I wish you best luck my friend. This is the kind of content that should be recommended to people. Thank you.
Exceptional cold open this time 😎
One time I had to go to Canada for a conference in January. My mother worked at a gov facility and had an excellent parka that she loaned me so that I could stay warm there since they had one of the worst ice/snow storms on record that year. I was grateful she gave it to me to use. After the conference, I came back across the border into the USA. At the border check, they started hassling me about the parka and almost took it from me since it was normally used in government facilities. I was very young and scared. LOL I could not go back and tell my mom I had lost the dang parka. They grilled me for about an hour and a half before they finally let me take it with me back across the border. That one out of the country experience makes me nervous now when crossing the border. LOL I always double check my list of what they could possibly construes as “illegal”……. And another flight, I had a fossil I purchased in Las Vegas (I forgot the name of the fossil… long cylindrical, 5 inch rock but sorta pointed on each end but was still rounded off) and was grilled then as well. They thought it was some sort of weapon. It was only a fossil. Anyway…. Just sharing because….. who knows what anyone may be thinking about how you are acting or what you are doing. I would never have thought both situations would have been seen in these ways…. lesson learned.
Hell yeah! This is a topic I wanted y'all to cover.
You provide information that all citizens need. Thank you for the time and energy you put into these videos.
Thank you S2 underground team. Your efforts are incredibly important to our understanding of the current world. The quality of your content is outstanding and always a wealth of knowledge. Bless you.
You can avoid it with the correct equipment and preparation. When I was in the army on some missions we would bring a snipers hide made from burlap and chicken wire. You need to unroll the material and set it up next to a material with similar specific heat (same absorption rate of heat). Ensure it looks like it belongs there and not an outcrop (E/I tree cancer). If you have a seamless blend and minimum of six inches between any body and the burlap you will seen as a cold spot through thermals. This needs to be done with some time for preparation because it needs to match temperatures of the surroundings and you need to prepare discrete ventilation. In a pinch you can use bottom soil to cool something down quickly and this adds space to the enclosure for additional cooling before ventilation. Again, all of this requires a minimum of five minutes warning with whatever thermal asset has line of sight.
I'd like to add something that I remembered just as you said contrast. If you are in a situation where you have little time to prepare you can use thermal washout as a hail Mary. If you've ever used nods you've likely experienced light washout. Too much ambient light makes it difficult to see in dark areas particularly just before dawn or just after sunset. Same applies to thermals but with heat. If there's a large source of heat in one area it will exaggerate that point washing out it's surrounding area but you need either an incendiary device or a few smoke grenades can work. However, it raises suspicion and will likely focus the search in/near that area. Also, most devices now days use dual thermal/night vision overlays with the ability to switch between white hot or black hot. If you are caught with your pants down your probably fucked.
"No one can control the weather."
👀
They control the weather 100% , too some degree I guess you can say there has to be some natural cycles involved, but I suspect that about 80% of the weather now a days is all controlled and or made. I remember blue skies as a kid, we now have grayish haze over everything and the color of blue is way off compared to what it used to be. Not to mention if you look up you see the 100s of planes spraying daily and the documents that they have released show they can do it that and HAARP …..
Not entirely though
This was very well produced. The topic is relevant, the material was covered in an abstract way that followed a developed template, and every piece formatted to flow from one section to the next. 👏
I really appreciate how you go into the science and how it works, that is incredibly important for me to understand and learn something
One of the best videos I’ve seen. Recently a guy shot at LEOs in a rural area. The weather was terrible. Rain, high winds, and fog. We heard a Blackhawk flying low in this weather at night. They got the guy. They’re using big boys toys on civilians
I live in the boonies and about 10 years ago a friend and I witnessed 2 totally blacked out helicopters... They were oddly enough being 'escorted' by what seemed to be a civilian heli with an anti-collision light.
The only reason we noticed them is I had heard the sound of a helicopter and went outside to view it (boonies entertainment) I ran outside and told my friend to come out who reluctantly agreed and once he was outside he says "Do you see that?" And confused for a moment... I had beckoned him to see it... "Yeah I see it? I called you out here?"
He says "no... Look behind it!"
2 seemingly/mostly silent helis that you could only see the rotors chopping.
Lol spooky stuff. I reported it to the FAA but got no response.
There was an episode of "I almost got away with it" where a fugitive ran into the woods. He heard the helicopter coming so he jumped in a little pond. Came back up. Every time he heard the helicopter coming he took a deep breath and got his head under water again. It worked, they didn't find him. Well eventually they did that's why he was on TV but not that day. Every time I see a helicopter flying over I think how ridiculously scary that must be to be hunted down with FLIR, dogs, guns, everything.
Dude, I appreciate every single video! Your effort and time put into each vid is superb! Thank you!
honestly one of the best videos on this topic, congratulations
Well I'll definitivley having my guys at work sit down and watch this
Oh my Gosh!! You Stud! I was literally heavily researching this a few hrs ago! Tysm for the incredible informative content!
Same, hiding from thermals has been keeping me up at night
Really thorough and well explained video. You are also the first person to publicly touch on how much the "social media influencers" effect the understanding and purhcasing of everyone, from civies, individual soldiers, SF and entire defence procurement systems. We are constantly amazed at how many experienced people, who should know better, fall for marketing hype. Thank you.
Those with only some knowledge are the most easily mislead.
Simply an outstanding You Tube product. Thank you. Will generate a huge amount of different thinking, much needed in present times.
incredible analysis and information can't wait to see what you're working in next!
Incredible briefings thank you for this. This one is a must to watch and you have delivered the information in a great educational and entertaining way. Thank you
Excellent content/explanation as usual! Your work and teaching is very much appreciated.
This is the most informative and current info on thermal technologies and evasion that I have seen on the internet.
Thankyou very much for your work mate 👍
I remember when this channel started off with a following of 200. It's been a pleasure watching your content.
Walter Russell’s ‘The secret of light’ is an amazing book. I highly recommend it.
Strains to follow the God-centered view of things rather than a review of science-based understanding. One view changes as we learn more, the other doesn't change because it's rooted in primitive, scared-of-the-dark superstition.
Great intro to the basics. Followed by hard wisdom. Well done !
Can't believe this only has 3k views. Great content. Edit: long time subscriber. I thought this was replay of older video UA-cam threw in my auto play feed.
Cheers guys
I got chills down my spine watching that intro clip. Haven't seen it in years.
Awesome content as always
Saw a old video on here of a gentleman using radiant barrier material and thin insulation to make a cloak. It was useful in his demonstration.
The problem is that either the cloak heats up eventually or the person overheats/can’t perform at peak performance. Take a goretex jacket: it supposedly breathes. Now go hike up a mountain in winter… you will start off wearing your jacket but as soon as you are actively hiking up the mountain you most likely will open it up or even take it off as you will be overheating/ sweating your ass off. Same problem is with all head covers. Cover your head and be active and you will get nasty hot fast. I guess like one gentleman mentioned here about karibou skins… that could work in some shape or form… but again overheating is an issue fast.
Dude, your channel is a gold mine. Thank you for the upload.
Your closing line was a surreal and sobering thought which most if not all of us listening to this video are thinking. We live in strange and interesting times
Ill never forget what this navy seal said.. When he was in the war with all his gear in the hills of afgan he would look up with his military thermal & he said the sky was like all these dots flying around like a sea of fish just moving all around with no purpose.. when he came home with his civilian thermal he looked up & nothing.. So he wasnt sure what was going on was the military thermal that much better & can see other different things or was them things not above us in USA..
Has any other person seen this..? what do u think they are..? if they moved in line or grid like movements id say well yea its just planes or drones.. But the way he explained it moved like an organic living thing
Possibly tons of stray weather balloons from the Air Force guys, or aliens.
Thank you for all of your work and for sharing it. Exciting times or not this stuff is fascinating and I appreciate the deep dive into the origins and applications.
More than anything thank you for being one of the few to shine a light on the guntuber hype beast culture. It's made everyone a gatekeeper. You and Risky Chrisky have made even HAM accessible and dare I say enjoyable. Seriously thank you.
What the funk is this retard talking about?
They will be IR fodder.
Another great video, you are so well versed, researched, and experienced. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos and Briefs. I can’t tell you how many times I share your video on 5th generation Warfare.
Excellent video! Your presentation style(voice, tone, focus points & details) keeps the viewer interested and engaged. thank you for your efforts to keep us informed on the relevant topics in our time . Texas hat tip to you Sir
English hat tip to your Texan hat tip.
Amazing episode
Going back to weather... As someone who earns 97% of their living outdoors, even in 2023 weather is the single greatest make/break factor.
Fully agree. It might be doable to hide from such sensors in your hole for some hours, but here in winter I am trudding of to the woodshed every now and then to stock up on more firewood as we get serious minus degrees in winter… if I would have to sleep in a fox hole and move around in these temperatures even the trail to my hide out would warm up 😂
Great video! Love the depth you go, looking forward to the next one!
This was an incredibly well put together video, nice work!
Stay wet and move slow. O300 is the golden hour.
Well done 👍👍
Solid primer. The level of content that you put out is staggeringly high. Graduate level stuff.
Great information here folks. Also looking forward to your coverage on the FAA & similar issues in the US, Canada and the Philippines over the past week.
You're really talking about the nitty gritty details most people won't get into. I think mastering fighting in bad weather is a next step for infantry in some places.
I remember reading an after action report that talked about grass mats being used by local fighters in Africa to great effect to hide from IR sensors.
Great video. Can't wait to see the next part.
If you can divide the body with wraps of material that can attempt to disguise a typical human figure. Like what some have used tape/paint on their face to avoid facial recognition. Maybe using wraps of other material at certain places throughout a uniform will break up the body from a thermal perspective.
I’m even thinking of a random pattern quilted uniform with different thermal properties on the outside. Each patch can vary in shape and thermal output, like going over m81 with different material to each color. Tarp/wool/cotton/mesh/etc….
There are IR spectrum camouflage
Problem is it's pretty stark in thermal. It'd be as if you're covering up only parts of a flashlight, you have to get nearly all of it or you're a target.
I say nearly because apparently the taliban would wear a wool-mylar-wool blanket sandwitch to hide from thermal and they might only get a foot sticking out which was mistaken for other animals on occasion.
@@nikolairomanov4496 i bet you are thinking of near infrarred, around 850nm
That is not thermal actually
@@callsignjoker2686 citations please. I have a feeling you're completely wrong. How on earth would that fail? If parts of your body are blocked off wholly or partially by thermal retentive material then what will result are marked deviations which would consequently break up your silhouette.
I bought one of those 400 dollar relv camo tarps. It's about as effective as a 15 dollar Amazon camo net against a flir breach. A pretty low end thermal. Feels great
Another great video. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Wow that was an excellent presentation! Thank you for putting this together.
In Afghanistan I've seen people appear out of nowhere from under (what I assume was) a blanket and I've had images completely wash out in rain.
This was with a $1/4M LRAS
Taking a class for a vehicle mounted thermal scope (can't remember the name of it) resolution was described as "emissivity". How munch heat (or light) an object emits compared to it's surroundings.
Thermal is only hard to hide from if you are mobile. From a static position it is actually very easy to hide from
The problem is knowing with absolute certainty when a sensor is trained on you. The known unknown of that equation is the reason the situation is challenging to overcome.
Static you will also give of heat eventually, thermal can't see through glass that's what you want to try and take advantage of
Just stay in urbanized areas with lots of structures and signatures , move in and out from one structure to another, that's what you need to do.
They Can't see you in the green house 🤫
@@nck4888 urban areas where you are known to be present their own series of problems though. It's easier to be flanked, resources cut off, and personel pursuing you have the same camouflage and maneuver capabilities that it affords you. In certain contexts and ROE, certain entities have gave the green light to drop ordinance on entire city blocks to eliminate a pocket of or single threats before. It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility. That being said, I personally do not want to be in a built up area if the world devolves to that point anyway. The scarcity of resources become a bigger threat than the drones overhead one would imagine.
Thank you for a great video! Well made and researched it seems. And, explanations that really make sense without being too technical. I'll be waiting for the next installment.
Thank you for posting this! All I want to do is build a stealth fort in the woods but police helicopters often fly in the area. I hid from them one time by going under a tree truck that was growing sideways, crunching myself up small, and putting my hands behind the heat of my torso. They flew from the airport directly to my location, circled a bunch while I was hidden, flew away for a little bit, and then circled again. I knew they were there both times because of the flight apps I have on my phone but, after the second circling, they flew back to base.
The other day, they came in hot again and circled my location. I did the same thing and they circled even longer. Eventually, they said to not grab the rifle (and at that point I thought I would probably be shot even though I don't even own a rifle). Then they said to walk towards the train tracks and I stayed exactly where I was, which was a good thing, because they said a little later to walk backwards towards the cops with hands on head. I guess there was someone else but I gather they were on the other side of the road from me since I have heard all the people who have gotten anywhere near me.
What I had done and hope would work was to observe the local wildlife roaming through the same area since I'm a biologist and then, when the cops came in their fancy helicopters, I tried to make my body more the shape of one of those animals. There are several relatively large animals that wander through there so I didn't have to get that small. The main thing was to make sure no one could see a pair of human hands.
Arnold just threw some mud from the creek bank on himself right there
That was protection from mosquitoes biting flys
Quick questions for S2 or anyone who may know. Does the channel get more revenue if I watch the ads rather than skip them? It’d be nice to contribute in some way while the economy is down.
They have a Patreon that you can donate to
And, In a related sub-question... For those of us that are UA-cam-Premium Subscribers (YT-PS) and are allegedly immune from the ADs/Commercials (But not "Sponsorships, go figure). Why do the Patreons get all the 'Perks & Benefits' when we YT-PS also provide supposedly sn equal amount of Revenue opportunity...
AS WELL AS a positive impact on the Algorithm for things like 'Binge-Watching', Commenting, $haring, $ubscribing, Yada-Yada-Yada, Blah-Blah-Blah, $$$, etc., Etc.? If anyone knows?
Great Question @Jeremy Holland
GREAT VIDEO @S2 Thank You! AGAIN!
@@barclaymatheson8240 I guess what I’m specifically asking is if I watch the whole ad will it make him more money vs just skipping it so I can contribute without having to donate through the patreon
Amazing video and appreciate the sources! Your level of research, facts, knowledge, practical application is why I subbed. Keep up the great work!
Great video. I work with thermal optis nearly every day and its nice to learn a little more how and why they work.
Decades ago, thermal testing was done on cold weather gear. Caribou hides were found to be superior. PDF should still be out there.
Can you create an Odysee or Rumble channel? In case this one gets banned, you know.
This man has an Odysee channel and a website that requires a specific browser ;) to access. He is well defended against Susan's machinations.
@@Jacob-pu4zj That's interesting. What kind of browser do I need?
@@Jacob-pu4zj Found it!
Unbelievably educational. Thank you so much for this on behalf of everyone
38:40 A couple of years ago I had a drone follow my car for about 5 miles in the dead of night. It was a pretty small one but big enough i could see it pacing us going about 60mph. This was in a little town with maybe 4 stop lights, so yeah they are using them in the US with infrared. We left a hotel that had a reputation for being pretty sketchy and all my "friends" were addicts constantly doing sketchy things for money. Whoever was operating it probably had a good reason to watch us. or they got a new toy and wanted to test it out. Idk, but we weren't sleep-deprived or even high yet and we all heard and saw the same thing.
I heard from someone that fire departments will use them to check out fires or scout a location so they know how they can get their equipment to wherever the fire is.
Criminals also use DJI drones to do help them steal stuff.
Currently have 727 days clean and don't associate with any of those people.
Speaking of camouflage and thermal imaging, did you all see the Russian "Spider" device? Apparently it can detect lasers and stuff
@@killdizzlethat device may make the army's new optic far less effective, as they'll have warning every time someone lines up to take a shot
Helstar has had the DTA for a while.
If the Russians had NVGs, they wouldn’t need dumb ass audible sensors telling them when they’ve been lased. Realistically, by that point, they’ve already been shot a few times and rounds have moved onto guys around them.
@@killdizzle lol
I would love to know what sensors precisely do true thermal scopes on the commercial market use, how to defeat them, and why they are so gosh darn expensive?
Only like 20 boomers know how to make them, same with gen 3 NODS
One of the most expensive parts of thermal cameras is the germanium lens they use, which is why you see such a big price difference for the same camera model but with a larger diameter lens. From what I understand, these lenses are more like precision lab grown crystals than glass.
Hands down the best video concerning thermal imaging.
Some of the finest presentations out there. Thank you.
How effective is HECS Hunting gear for anti-thermal cameras?
If it were that simple, it would be in use by the DoD.
@@thatrealbashit dod uses doesn’t work