Sangean ATS-909 X2 Telescopic Antenna Test 2, Outdoors.

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  • @jungleman4921
    @jungleman4921 2 роки тому +1

    All very good thanks.Nice to have the QSO with you via this reply !!....James. (Photo of my small village Im originaly from here in NZ).Im living in Auckland NZ's biggest city.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому

      Very good James, name here is Mark, good QSO via youtube indeed lol. Perhaps you could try some QSO via digital on PSK31 or Olivia ? you would probably need to use an amplifier of 300-500 watts maybe should get you out good, Olivia is insanely good for weak signal decoding.
      groups.io/g/Olivia
      The link above is a good place to start to find Olivia signals, it's keyboard to keyboard chat but I find it fun and useful where having voice QSO isn't practical like when the Kids are around or when XYL is watching tv when I'm using my sitting room setup. Olivia is slow but if conditions are good you can try a faster mode or use Contestia.
      There is also the digital voice modes such as DMR, D-Star and Fusion and others and these are also great when conditions don't allow for dx via Shortwave or when not convenient to use Ham gear.
      Get a DVMega DVstick 30 and Blue DV for windows, adjust the audio for TX properly and you're on Digital much more conveniently than using a Radio and Hotspot, DMR radios can be really complex and irritating to program the way you want but with bluedv for windows you don't need to do this.

  • @greggaieck4808
    @greggaieck4808 2 роки тому +2

    Me and my cousin are going to a Swap meet June 5th 2022 Sunday morning at 8:00am in Milwaukee

  • @jungleman4921
    @jungleman4921 2 роки тому +1

    Yes I fully agree with you.I live down here in NewZealand,and SW reception has always been poor at anytime dueing the year,so far away from the rest of the world where it all happens.Even military reception has dropped out,where about 10 years ago came in very clear on SSB. I mostly listen to utility stations on SSB but my fond hobby of SW DXing etc has lost its shine.When I bought the 909x it was the only one being sold here via a private importer.SW receivers are not available in shops here,so we need to relly on someone going overseas or find an importer and do it on a one off basis.JayCar,an Australian company over here do stock a cheaper range at times,but not as good as the type really needed. I do have the Tecsun 660,and that out preforms all my other portables.I still own a Sony IC 2010 all original I bought at a "Junk" sale many years ago and for what its worth performs very well too.But we are very limited over here in NZ so its a struggle to keep the radio interest alive.Having a long wire or Dipole antenna outside only increases the electrical interference,and if you live anywhere near high tension Pilon towers,it can be a waste of time.I normaly need to drive to a high hill far away from city limits and string up a reel type long wire to a tree and listen hopeing I get some type of signal on HF SSB.Ham radio reception is also very poor here, local nets at certain times of the day,very short and thats all.Only a few are hams.So its a dieing hobby unfortionitly,only a few
    "Oldies" like myself are still keeping it going.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому

      Here in Ireland it's tough to get radios too, your PL-660 is a great SW receiver and great to use ECSS, that and a good antenna make it a really great receiving DX machine, ECSS makes a massive difference and it doesn't work on the Tecsun PL-990x, 880 or S-8800 because the sound is so poor on SSB. The H501 is a lot better but still not perfect.
      You could also get an Airspy HF+ SDR ? but really, the PL-660 is a great radio but the H501x works with external antenna on LW/MW and it makes a massive difference. You do have to switch out the internal ferrite antenna first or it won't work properly by pressing and holding no 3 I think it is until CH-5 appears.
      The Ham Bands are packed most of the time here in Europe so much that it can be hard to get a word in edgeways especially on 80m in the evenings and nights or even 40m this time of the year.
      At times I can hear radio New Zealand International here in Ireland and the signal can be quite good at times.
      I've made a few contacts with a couple of Hams in Australia on 20m in the Summer evenings UTC with a Chameleon MPAS 2.0 with CAP HAT and 4 radials and 100 Watts from the FT-891, of course the other Chaps had a big tower and beam but I still made it.
      With the Chameleon I can make it to North, South and Central America, have got to Chile with it too.
      I would have thought for you getting DX to South America and Western USA would not be such a hard task ?
      I normally use an EFHW 49:1 with the FTDX-10 and Acom 1000, the MPAS 2.0 is on the front lawn and the 891 in the sitting room for when I don't want to go up to the shack but the DX capability of the MPAS 2.0 with CAP HAD and just 4 radials has really surprised me.
      The EFHW has really surprised me too, I have it in a inv L config, highest point is around 65 feet off the ground and the first half is flat and the 2nd half slops and the UNUN is around 3 feet off the ground where I have it grounded.
      In most of my videos I use the Bonito MA 305 with the optional longer whip, this antenna still blows me away at how good it is for it's size and it's signal to noise performance is way better than a wire antenna, it's a really good DX antenna the EFHW is probably better for NVIS coverage.
      The MPAS 2.0 is a great Receiving antenna too and it's a eally quiet antenna allowing me to hear the DX of course it's nothing like having a proper vertical with around 30-60 radials, the MPAS performance on 40m would not be fantastic but I can still get to the USA with it on 40m, furthest I got on 40m was 4000 miles to the Middle East.
      Of course it really helps to be in a quiet country area but I do have some bad RFI form an electric pole I'm in the process of trying to get sorted and I hope they can get to the bottom of it, luckily it's intermittent but it's getting less intermittent and worse when it occurs.

  • @willowsloughdx
    @willowsloughdx 3 роки тому +7

    Fascinating video. Thanks for the patience in tracking down the internally generated noise issue. Performance on 19 and 25m was great. The 909X seems very stable for ECSS on broadcast stations.
    This video tells me a lot more. I have two 909Xs and both have lower audio levels on SSB. This is normal for the radios. I need to turn up the audio every time I use SSB. I have never seen effects of hand capacitance when running the radios on shortwave. Regarding battery v. AC operation: my two 909Xs were built in 2014 and 2019 respectively. The newer radio uses a different AC/DC wall adapter and is center pin positive so the new wall wart does not work with the older 909X. I never use AC power for listening to shortwave with the 2014 909X: there is internal noise on a few frequencies. The 2019 909X is different. Shortwave is clean with AC power so I use it that way from time to time.
    I get different readings on the S-meter depending on whether I am using AC or battery power and the type of batteries in use. The AC adapter provides the highest voltage to the radio which results in the highest S-meter values. Duracell non-rechargeable AA batteries are 1.7V when brand new and provide the next highest S-meter values. Standard white 2000 mAh AA Eneloop NiMH are 1.49V when fully charged and provide the lowest S-meter values. Regardless of battery type the S-meter values drop as the batteries discharge and voltage drops. I use the standard white Eneloops because the radio does not need the higher drain capability of the Eneloop Pro batteries and the standard Eneloops are good for four times the charge cycles of the Eneloop Pro. The higher S-meter readings from AC operation aren't all that relevant to actual performance. It won't make a difference in receiving or not receiving a weak station. The convenience of charging Eneloops inside the radio is impossible for heavy battery users like me to ignore.
    One of the biggest changes with the 909X2 is the power supply and battery charger. Each cell is individually monitored and maintained. I wonder if noise is coming from this improved battery bay? Is one of the sensors defective? Is one of your 4xAA cells defective? It is very unlikely but do the Eneloop Pro batteries have safety ICs on the cell? Protected Li-ion batteries have a safety IC on the cell and these are know to produce RFI with radios.
    Thanks for the videos. Good luck! I will be receiving a 909X2 when the first shipment to North America is released in about a month or less. I'm watching your videos with great interest. I looks to me like your 909X2 may have internal noise issues.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      ECSS is impressive, absolutely, the fidelity in the audio is really good.
      Right now I'm listening to Rádio Clube do Pará in Brasil on 4885 Khz and I am very impressed, on the PL-990x it just doesn't sound good at all, on my trusty PL-680, ECSS is great but it has soft muting which can hamper the weakest of signals, I'm really impressed with the 909x 2 for ECSS and when I turn it back to AM it doesn't sound nearly as good due to the fading.
      I would love to make a video now but the XYL is watching TV and I have the Bonito wired to the sitting room and I'm too lazy to go to the shack, but maybe I'll do just that and bring the 990x.
      Thanks for the tip on the batteries. The Eneloops are NiMh not Lithium ?
      I am really impressed with the low noise AC adaptor, really quiet for a modern power supply.

    • @rodrigoroaduterte9415
      @rodrigoroaduterte9415 3 роки тому +1

      @@o00scorpion00o, I am sorry, what does ESCC stand for? :)

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +2

      @@rodrigoroaduterte9415 Exalted Carrier Single Sideband is when you are listening to an AM station, you press USB/LSB and tune the BFO until the audio is as natural as possible without any tones, this is very effective against fading and against interference which can be at the upper or lower sideband ( USB/LSB ) so choose whichever reduces or eliminates the interference.
      ECSS is an extremely effective tool for the serious DX'er but it does not work good on DSP radios so if you are a serious DX'er then stick to pure analogue radios such as the Tecsun Pl-680, the other radio that works extremely well with ECSS is the new Sangean ATS-909 x2 which is due some update soon to fix some early production issues. ECSS does not work good ont he Tecsun Pl-880, 990x or S-8800 because the audio on SSB is very poor.

    • @rodrigoroaduterte9415
      @rodrigoroaduterte9415 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o, oh, yeah, I have tested it with a S-8800 yesterday, but the sound quality happened to be worse than with AM. At the same time interference has been noticeably reduced.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      @@rodrigoroaduterte9415 yes, that's the idea of ECSS to reduce or eliminate interference and fading but the S-8800 sounds too bad on SSB. IF you can at all get the Pl-680, it sounds so good on SSB compared to the S-8800. Best keep away from DSP radios, they just don't work good on SSB.

  • @philireland1678
    @philireland1678 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, sounds like a grounding issue possible caused by the display otherwise a great radio. Nothing quite like radio comparisons, always entertaining and informative.
    Well done, Cheers..... Phil vk2gjf

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      Could be Phil, hopefully they have it fixed in the new updated batch due end of March.

    • @philireland1678
      @philireland1678 3 роки тому +1

      @@o00scorpion00o
      Yes hopefully. Good luck with it! Have you tried the Panasonic B-65? Apart from a single, well chosen bandwidth, a great receiver for a portable. When I was in Enniscorthy, couldn't help it, bought a Panasonic GX5 at a local Electronic shop. Cheers.... Phil

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      @@philireland1678 No I haven't used the B-65 but I've heard it's a good radio, maybe someday I will get to try it out :-)
      The GX5 is a good looking radio, how does it perform ?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      @@philireland1678 HI Phil, I had replied to you earlier but it seems to have disappeared, strange.
      No I have never used the B-65 but I heard it's a really good radio, shame it doesn't have SSB.
      I like the look of the GX5 how does it perform ?

    • @philireland1678
      @philireland1678 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o
      Hi, sorry about thr late reply, beenvery busy today! The GX5 is an ok radio, very basic but performs ok for what it is. I'm waiting on an Eton Field Executive coming from the US. Supposed to be a great performer. I'd recommend getting a B65 if one comes available at a fair price, you won't be disappointed.
      What part of Ireland are you from? One day if I get the opportunity I'd like to see more.
      I'm a member of the Australian Radio DX Club and a member of the Historical Radio Society of Australia and have an amateur radio licence VK2GJF. I love shortwave and MWDX and sporadic e FMDX.
      Hope all is going well over there.
      Cheers..... Phil

  • @b57ecv
    @b57ecv 3 роки тому +1

    Did you purchase it from sangean Europe's website, i noticed they haven't got them on Amazon uk yet, my 909x seems to be performing quite well i use a degen active loop indoors, and a dipole made with two sangean an 60s plugged into a 3.5mm stereo jack splitter outdoors , works good and it's easy to pack down, reason for making it like this i noticed there was room in the original discover 909x box to do this in its egg carten, got me thinking mabe Sangean had the same idea that's why they put the space in there.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching, Yes I purchased the 909 X2 from Sangean's EU site. Got it a week later.
      The Bonito MA-305 is a really compact Antenna + you can power it from a USB power brick. + it's a super performing Antenna, really great for DX. But it should be outside and coax grounded if possible. I use H155 coax which has very good shielding. I do live in a very electrically quiet environment which helps a lot. If you add a longer whip available on Bonito site also it provides more gain.

    • @b57ecv
      @b57ecv 3 роки тому +1

      @@o00scorpion00o Thanks for the info on the antenna I'll have a look into that.

  • @1fanger888
    @1fanger888 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting test. Thanks.

  • @greggaieck4808
    @greggaieck4808 2 роки тому +1

    OOOscropinooo your sangean ATS 90 9x 2 shortwave receiver is cool my hobbys are painting pictures and lisining to shortwave and ssb iam thinking about getting my ham license I have 4 shortwave receivers

    • @greggaieck4808
      @greggaieck4808 2 роки тому +1

      OOOscropinooo iam thinking about getting sangean ATS 90 9x 2 shortwave receiver or the Tecsun Pl 660 shortwave receiver what do you think about that

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому

      Hi Greg, oh most definitely do get your ham license, I am sorry I didn't get it before the age of 39, now 42 I really love the hobby. So much more you can do when you can transmit.
      If you ever get your license I highly recommend the Yaesu FT-891, it doesn't have a fancy screen but it's got an amazing receiver with fantastic audio via headphones, it can be got cheap enough then if you ever get a larger radio you can still keep the 891 for portable use. Sadly I don't get more time to operate portable but the 891 sits beside me in my sitting room connected to the Chameleon MPAS 2.0 on the front lawn and I use this when I don't want to go to the shack.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому

      Hi Greg, sorry for late reply, youtube sometimes fails to notify me of certain comments.
      If you prefer shorwave mostly get the 660 as it's got a better sync detector or if you like longwave or medium wave then the PL-680 would be better, the PL-660 is deaf on LW/MW

  • @hamrad88
    @hamrad88 3 роки тому

    What type of batteries where you using and where they at full capacity?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      I was using rechargeable NiMh batteries almost fully charged, there is a new breed of rechargeable AA batteries with higher voltage, I really can't remember what they are. But you'd need a charger capable of charging them.

    • @hamrad88
      @hamrad88 3 роки тому +1

      @@o00scorpion00o Thanks

  • @ronaldzuccala1889
    @ronaldzuccala1889 3 роки тому

    Hello. Yes we've does have a current undertone a bit odd. I have a question for you. In your opinion why do you believe sync d. Does not work on a dsp chipset. The sync on the Eton e. Sat. Does not work either. Thankyou. Ron. Z.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      Hi Ron, I don’t think the DSP radios actually have proper SYNC and just activate normal SSB.

  • @4nradio782
    @4nradio782 3 роки тому

    Excellent video! Thanks for taking the time to record it.
    I wonder what the best source will be for a USA purchase of the 909X2?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      In the USA I have no idea but at least it should be a good bit cheaper, we get absolutely screwed in the E.U with Tax on pretty much everything we buy.

    • @4nradio782
      @4nradio782 3 роки тому +2

      @@o00scorpion00o I discovered that the Ham Radio Outlet stores in the US will be carrying this radio for $359 USD, but it is not in stock yet.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      @@4nradio782 that’s usually the other way around, usually we get stuff last 😀

    • @rfaradiofreeamerica8392
      @rfaradiofreeamerica8392 3 роки тому +1

      HRO.Ham Radio Outlet . Online

    • @4nradio782
      @4nradio782 3 роки тому

      @@rfaradiofreeamerica8392 Thanks--- after I posted my comment I found that HRO has them. Only the Atlanta outlet currently has stock, but that's a moot point with shipping.

  • @rfaradiofreeamerica8392
    @rfaradiofreeamerica8392 3 роки тому

    Cool Test! BUT, Question.. I got a ATS 405 for $90 a few months ago, is it a vastly superior radio than that?? Bc of the price im undecided but welcome comments.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      I had replied to your post but it seems to have disappeared, strange.
      I haven't used the ATS-405, I've read that it's a good radio but it doesn't have SSB and that's essential to me because I am a radio Amateur and listen to the HAM bands a lot but even if you don't listen to the ham bands using SSB on a commercial AM stations can have a huge advantage, for instance, if you're listening to a distant station on SW and there's another station that's interfering with the station you want to listen to you simply hit USB/LSB whichever has the best effect and tune the radio until the sound is as natural as possible and there's no tone, this is called ECSS or Zero Beat, but this can greatly reduce or eliminate the interfering station or noise and bring your distant station right up out of the mud it's really a great tool to have for the serious DX'er, for those who don't know what that is it means listening to distant stations.
      Anyway, the radio you have is always better than the radio you don't so if you want to practice and play around using ECSS you'll need a radio with SSB and one of the best radios for this that you can buy today at a good price from anon-co.com is the Tecsun PL-680, don't be tempted by the newer DSP Tecsuns such as the PL-880/990x they are poor sounding radios in SSB making ECSS a very unpleasant experience.
      What I would do is improve your antenna first, if funds permit I highly recommend the Bonito MA305 whip, it's absolutely tiny but the performance still blows me away, you can get a longer whip that Bonito supply for more gain, I have the smaller whip. You need good quality coax, I use H155 and a good ground is essential, Bonito supply the coax and the connectors you need and also the ground rod kit. Mount it up high away from the house as much as you can away from sources of noise, if you are in a high noise area a loop such as the megaloop FX might be better.
      But before all that eliminate as much noise sources from your house as possible, bad switch mode power supplies, if these are external you can get linear replacements, make sure they're the right voltage and current, with a linear you need one with a higher current rating than your old swithc mode supply because the linear isn't as efficient.
      next is replace bad led bulbs, stay away from dodgy phone chargers. My charger for my Galaxy Tab S5e is a huge source of noise and this travels down the mains wiring, bad cheaply built SMP send noise down the mains wiring.
      Basically, if you got noise in the radio, switch off the power to the house and see if it goes away, if not then it's external, if it does go away then use the radio to find the source by walking around the house.

    • @rfaradiofreeamerica8392
      @rfaradiofreeamerica8392 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o Got it! Very good point as well. Yea I love my Sangean 405, I built my own rudimentary 25ft long wire clipped to the radios antenna and it helps, but I'm going to try your suggestions . I might also get the Tecsun ssb too. These will be fine for a good while , ... until Sangean puts the 909X2 on sale imo. Thanks!

    • @hdofu
      @hdofu 3 роки тому

      SSB is a major feature for listening to shortwave especially if you plan to listen to amateurs and pirates

  • @STR82DVD
    @STR82DVD 2 роки тому +1

    Low volume on SSB - back she goes or at least a firmware update.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому +1

      The volume is low on SSB on battery, don't know if a firmware update will cure it, plugging in the AC adapter does help it a lot. It does have an incredibly low noise floor though.
      The H501X is a good radio, 2 speakers make a difference, SSB sound quality greatly improved ( when cycling through the filters only by the AM BW button ) when you turn it on to SSB first you immediately have to cycle through the filters or it sounds muddy, a firmware bug. Even ECSS sounds pretty good on the H501X but at the end of the day the ATS-909 X2 and PL-680 have the edge for SSB audio completely free from any form of distortion.
      On SSB the Sangean does sound the best though or the Tecsun PL-680 for ECSS the Sangean and Pl-680 are the best sounding, ECSS is essential for the serious DX'er. I no longer have the 909 X2 use the H501x now mostly.
      OR you can go the way of the Kiwi SDR, have you used any of those ? they are quite convenient and can be used on any web browser on any device.
      Below are links to my Kiwi SDRs, use the Noise Blanker under "Audio" to adjust to filter out some electric fence noise and powerline noise.
      emeraldsdr.ddns.net:8073/
      emeraldsdr1.ddns.net:8074/

    • @STR82DVD
      @STR82DVD 2 роки тому +1

      @@o00scorpion00o Great stuff lad. I've been using websdr and kiwiSDR and quite enjoying them. I found using Pocket RxTx Pro on Android bloody convenient and the Dev is amazing. Is the filter bug only on the H-501? I've not noticed it on my PL-368.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому +1

      @@STR82DVD The H501 is pretty new, it's not like the PL-880 which was put in a different package and called the PL-990x with bluetooth and sdcard dreader.
      The H501x and the PL-330 are different hardware.
      But to kind of answer your question, the H501x filter issue is unique to the 501 just like the 4 Khz SSB filter not working at all on the PL-880, 990x and S8800 and they sound very muddy with much more distortion.
      The H501x is Tecsun's best sounding Tecsun DSP radio yet, the PL-330 is a nice radio too with good SSB performance better than the 880,990x and S-8800 because it's got clearer audio and it's 4 Khz filter works on SSB but it's got that Awful muting when tuning but in fairness I can forgive that due to the cost + having SSB in a package that size is truly amazing but not only that the PL-330 handles strong signals from large antennas extremely well, by comparison, the PL-310et would die especially at night if I plugged my 134 foot long efhw into it or my tiny Bonito MA305 Whip. The PL-330 is remarkable for it's size when I think about it.
      In reality, the filter bug on the H501 is nothing to worry about, all you got to do when you first press SSB is cycle through the filters to get it to sound properly. And it sounds great on AM especially on more stable Medium Wave signals due to having 2 speakers.
      But for absolutely purity of SSB signal/sound quality you can't beat the PL-680, PL-660 or the sangean ATS-909x2 and if the sangean is a little quiet connect up a larger antenna or a powered antenna such as the Bonito MA305 or MDX300.
      The H501x is also a nice radio to use due to it being so big + the sound quality through the speakers, it's a major improvement of SSB but not perfect still due to some slight distortion but it's mild compared to their other DSP radios. I'd say if you can at all get it, you won't be disappointed, get it from somewhere you can easily return it if you're not happy.
      The KIwi SDRs are great and I love the way they can decode DRM without any messing about.

  • @DIlic-iz9tx
    @DIlic-iz9tx 3 роки тому

    _Is there a difference between the Sangean 909X2 for Europe and the one from USA RadioLabs. Is it the same radio._

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      I have no idea, sorry only seeing this now.

    • @DIlic-iz9tx
      @DIlic-iz9tx 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o_SW is okay. My problem is the AM band has a lot of static-buzzing at certain frequencies and can't boast of sensitivity._

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      @@DIlic-iz9tx do you mean in my video or in general where you live ?

  • @geoffquickfall8424
    @geoffquickfall8424 3 роки тому

    Where are you based. Thanks for the review!

  • @ronaldzuccala1889
    @ronaldzuccala1889 3 роки тому

    Hello my friend. Can you tell me what version you have. Thank you.

    • @papakrampus3062
      @papakrampus3062 3 роки тому

      He's got Sangean's initial set release with firmware VER 070. He was going to contact Sangean to trade his set in for the update VER 073. I'm waiting for a vid that shows this new firmware version and, particularly, for his comparison between the two sets that he's put through the paces. As you can see, he provides a very thorough review of all functions.

    • @Sky1
      @Sky1 3 роки тому

      I just got one yesterday, how do I check what version I have?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      Thanks for your reply to the question, I don't always see updates to comments unless I go to youtube studios.
      I never got the firmware updated nor intend to, I have the PL-990x and 909 x2 up for sale some months but can't sell them but that would be no surprise here in Ireland as it's a small place and I expect there aren't too many people looking for portable multi band radios or probably don't know about them or care which is sad, but the mobile phone has takes over, no one seems to have an interest in much else these days.
      I think value for money then the Tecsun PL-680 can't be beat, the sangean is good but not really worth the money over the PL-680, and the PL-990x is a disaster on SSB.
      I think we've reached the end for portable radio sadly but if anyone is looking for a good portable then the PL-680 is hard to beat for the money, then start looking for old Ham radios if you want a larger radio or a dedicated desktop receiver or just get an SDR.
      I have got the Malahit DSP 2 and it's a really great radio, very small though and hopefully I can make a few videos this weekend.
      I haven't made any videos since June so might make some more, Winter is long........

  • @jungleman4921
    @jungleman4921 2 роки тому

    I notice on my 909 x SW reception is weak with telescopic antenna,compared to all my other portables.Needs outside wire antenna befor it performs as good as my others. Very poor reception design.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  2 роки тому

      Hi, there and thanks for watching.
      The 909x is weaker on the whip alright and maybe the X2 slightly but to be honest I rarely use any radio on it's whip and if I do I usually attach some wire to the whip antenna for better reception.
      The thing that turned me off the 909 X was the filters on AM, I found the audio quite muffled but the X2 was a big improvement in sound quality.
      The X2 and the 909 x really shine with external antennas and offer some of the best sounding SSB audio especially the X2 but the filters are a bit too wide for crowded Amateur radio bands but for ECSS the X2 is probably the best new radio you can buy today but it really does need to be connected to an external antenna.
      The Tecsun PL-880,990x S-8800 all suffer from poorly implemented filters on SSB and distortion making SSB sound absolutely horrid and makes ECSS impossible.
      The H501x is a major improvement but the X2 still has the best Audio. The PL-680 is also a really good sounding radio for ECSS but more difficult to tune due to the BFO but I don't find it bad once used to it, the benefit of nice clean analogue audio outweighs the bit of extra effort in tuning the BFO.
      The PL-680 makes a really great DX Radio using ECSS and a good external antenna such as the Bonito MA305 Whip or the Megadipol but it's much more expensive but these antennas have excellent signal to noise performance compared to a long wire or probably most wire antennas and their LW/MW performance is superb making it a great match for the H501x which supports external antenna for LW/MW.

  • @DIlic-iz9tx
    @DIlic-iz9tx 3 роки тому

    _Shame no change on the new receiver. Sync missing again. Weak sensitivity as in the previous one. It is barely audible on LSB and USB. Couldn’t the new receiver get bluetooth._

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому

      I don't notice weak reception on the telescopic whip on the 909 x2.
      You should check out the new version of the malachite SDR RX9CIM malahit_sdr@rambler.ru, much better features and performance than pretty much any portable radio, don't be tempted by cheap Chinese clones.

  • @tomki6asp
    @tomki6asp 3 роки тому

    Where are you located?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      I am in Ireland.

    • @tomki6asp
      @tomki6asp 3 роки тому +1

      @@o00scorpion00o Are you still happy with the 909X2?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      ​@@tomki6asp Yes, the 909 x2 is a great radio but I use external antenna so not sure if later versions are from the internally generated noise that mine experiences on SW at lower frequencies. If you can buy and return it easily if it's an issue for you then this would be the best thing to do.
      I'm selling the 909 x2 and the 990x but it's probably going to take a while where I live but I like to try out different radios, I am about to order the original Malachite SDR from Russia, not a Chinese clone, so can't wait to try this out in a couple of months.
      I am selling the 990x anyway because the sound is just too bad on SSB.
      I think you'd be very happy with the 909 x2 especially if you intend to use it with External antenna.

  • @ArthurJS123
    @ArthurJS123 3 роки тому +1

    For what this radio is selling for, the deafness on the whip antenna should have already been fixed. Overpriced, and underperforming.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Arthur, thanks for watching and for your comments.
      The performance on the whip is excellent except for at lower frequencies especially, the internally generated noise is greater than weaker signals but there is a big improvement with the whip noticeable at higher frequencies where the noise is much less noticeable.
      The improvements I noticed over the 909x is AM sound quality has greatly improved helped by the different bandwidth options.
      ECSS performance has also greatly improved with the 10hz tuning ability.
      SSB audio quality is still as good as it was on the 909x.
      The negatives
      Internally generated noise on the whip
      SSB bandwidth function does not work as it does on AM.
      SSB audio volume a little quiet.
      If Sangean fix these with their updated version at the end of March it will, in my opinion, be the best portable radio with SSB you can buy today.
      Indeed at the price those issues shouldn't exist but if you look at the Tecsun radios such as the PL-880 which was expensive when it was released and now the PL-990x and the S-8800 which is still very expensive today, they have serious sound quality issues on SSB and the 4 Khz filter does not work at all, at least on the Sangean 909 x2 you can listen to very good SSB audio quality and you can use ECSS on a commercial station something impossible on the 880/990x and S-8800 and ECSS is an essential tool for the serious DX'er.

    • @ArthurJS123
      @ArthurJS123 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o No sync detection?

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      @@ArthurJS123 Unfortunately no SYNC, hard to find on a radio these days.
      The Tecsun PL-990x advertises SYNC but it's unusable due to really bad sound quality, same as SSB.

    • @ArthurJS123
      @ArthurJS123 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o I have found sync to be a mixed bag. Although it works fairly well on the Sony ICF-2010, and Grundig Satellit 800, the only two radios I have that feature it. It’s not a panacea, but can work well.

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      @@ArthurJS123 Yes SYNC can work well but radio manufacturers don't bother these days. It works pretty well on the PL-660 and 680 but it tends to screech and howl when the signal gets weak enough but on the Sony it just sounds like normal fading.
      I will say though that if you listen to speech then ECSS is more effective against fading and the loss in quality while using SSB is hardly noticeable but I have to say the 909 X2 holds it's own in ECSS and without the soft muting making it a DX'ers delight.

  • @wavezone2566
    @wavezone2566 3 роки тому

    This receiver is no longer relevant

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +3

      Ok, thanks for watching.

    • @nathanpetrovski7525
      @nathanpetrovski7525 3 роки тому +1

      What are you talking about?

    • @wavezone2566
      @wavezone2566 3 роки тому

      @@o00scorpion00o Sorry, I did not immediately see that this is a new model). The receiver is amazing!

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o  3 роки тому +1

      @@wavezone2566 Haha, yes it would be easy to miss this is a new version :-)
      Yes very good receiver, great audio very impressed.

  • @newstar6445
    @newstar6445 3 роки тому

    Shortwave is dead