The idea of Ran collecting sailors does remind me of the sailor folk legend of Fiddler's Green. Sailors have always seemed to have their own stories parallel to other groups.
I was just trying to find where I had heard about where the men who were lost at sea went to. I was getting frustrated and this video pops up in my feed. Thank you! You're my go to resource for information on anything Norse related. Hoping to own your books soon!
A version of reincarnation can also be found in Völuspá 21, where Gullveig is said to be "Þrysvar brenndu, þrysvar borna" - "They burned her three times, she was reborn three times". Another kind-of afterlife not mentioned would be the zombie-like Draugar, like Angantyr in Hervararkviða.
I was always inclined to believe; since the “cease fire” between the Æsir and Vanir, Odinn, as a condition to the terms of the truce, allows Freyja to take her share. Both the Æsir and Vanir will be fighting in Ragnarok, after all. But yeah, purely my own speculation.
I just realized something. Could it be that Freya and Odin pick teams for the daily fight (and that, in the sense of what's destined to become of its residents, Valholl could also be considered a kind of "home for eternal losers")?
The idea that they believed in different afterlives for those who died in different ways is a tempting one though possibly having more to do with our post enlightenment thought than historical fact.
or maybe it is the other way around; they had actual religious diversity and freedom, and we have no actual choice, aka "you can pick any color, as long as it's black or white"
I think you're a little quick to dismiss ideas sometimes, just because that idea is "only in one source". If there are only a literal handful of sources, not everything is necessarily going to be echoed in all of them. Thor's hall for example: do you really think a god as well loved as Thor WOULD'NT be seen as taking his beloved humans in, or continuing to protect them in some way? I just can't see the ancestors being such faith in someone they believed would just abandon them to Hela's hold, unless they belived there was a brighter side as there is to her image.
VERY glad you're allowing for the possibility of people talking about spirits and afterlives without elevating it to the level of formal theology.
The idea of Ran collecting sailors does remind me of the sailor folk legend of Fiddler's Green. Sailors have always seemed to have their own stories parallel to other groups.
Fiddler's Green ua-cam.com/video/35mJvcY104M/v-deo.html
There is the classic saying: "There are the living, the dead and those to sea."
I was just trying to find where I had heard about where the men who were lost at sea went to. I was getting frustrated and this video pops up in my feed. Thank you!
You're my go to resource for information on anything Norse related.
Hoping to own your books soon!
A version of reincarnation can also be found in Völuspá 21, where Gullveig is said to be "Þrysvar brenndu,
þrysvar borna" - "They burned her three times, she was reborn three times".
Another kind-of afterlife not mentioned would be the zombie-like Draugar, like Angantyr in Hervararkviða.
I was wondering where draugr enter into this.
Good morning Doc Crawford. Just ordered my Wanderers Havamal. Thanks for the videos and the books.
Got it today. But alas, schoolwork before pleasure. Cheers.
Awesome video, very informative, thank you, Doctor Crawford
A lot of confusion must be from the fact that we only have a small reference point, as there is so much missing from the sources.
I always enjoy your video’s. Informative
I was always inclined to believe; since the “cease fire” between the Æsir and Vanir, Odinn, as a condition to the terms of the truce, allows Freyja to take her share.
Both the Æsir and Vanir will be fighting in Ragnarok, after all.
But yeah, purely my own speculation.
No reason I can see to assume that beliefs in an afterlife would be uniform over time, region, life-stage or culture.
Personally, I'm going to all afterlives simultaneously.
A grand tour of the dead sounds pretty rad
This was a really nice video, clearing up confusion, thank you Dr Crawford.
I just realized something. Could it be that Freya and Odin pick teams for the daily fight (and that, in the sense of what's destined to become of its residents, Valholl could also be considered a kind of "home for eternal losers")?
Good video Doctor Crawford!
Looking good, Dr. Crawford!
I keep expecting to see Arthur Morgan running around in the background
And shouting "C'MERE BOAH!!!!"
Thanks! Great video!
Very fun and educational even for us who have this as our own history. Greetings from Norway. :-)
What about In Voluspa where the witch mentions Gimle?
I'm fairly certain Helheim awaits me. I'm not a sailor, and I'm not a warrior...-shrug-
Ran is my personal favorite
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Luv it!
Always a good way to start Saturday.
The idea that they believed in different afterlives for those who died in different ways is a tempting one though possibly having more to do with our post enlightenment thought than historical fact.
or maybe it is the other way around; they had actual religious diversity and freedom, and we have no actual choice, aka "you can pick any color, as long as it's black or white"
The perfect man doesn't exi-
I think you're a little quick to dismiss ideas sometimes, just because that idea is "only in one source". If there are only a literal handful of sources, not everything is necessarily going to be echoed in all of them. Thor's hall for example: do you really think a god as well loved as Thor WOULD'NT be seen as taking his beloved humans in, or continuing to protect them in some way? I just can't see the ancestors being such faith in someone they believed would just abandon them to Hela's hold, unless they belived there was a brighter side as there is to her image.
Im having a crush
Are you on IMGUR Dr. Crawford?