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Account of Genesis.
24:03
Creation account.
31:32
Divine Rest.
32:29
In the beginning.
34:37
Disagreement.
41:55
Interpretation struggles.
43:49
Salvific issues.
46:47
Inspiration.
49:21
Academic background.
God bless you, guys.
Thanks again Pastor Chip for bringing such a scholar to the academic series. God is blessing Grace with growth, because of the servant attitude and trying to be intentional neighbors all day every day. We must strive to learn the word and love others intentionally
Thanks Pastor Chip. Very informative and definitely gives you some perspective on how to read Genesis or the Bible. I believe science and The Bible compliment each other. For me I just choose to have faith and continue to work on growing that and understand that I don’t need to know all the details of how or why God does what he does. Look forward to more lessons:).
New to John Walton but loving the ideas. Bless you sir!
Love this! Thanks for doing this. I’ve read almost all Dr. Walton’s materials. Incredible materials.
I just finished and thanks for both of you being so honest in your journey. I remember telling Tom and yourself after service during 14 week apologytics series about me and my journey in scripture using your messages as a cheat sheet to expand and speed up my learning but also my living the scripture
Thanks again for challenging all of us and helping with your knowledge. And also bringing the academic series
🙏 thanks for watching.. have more videos like this coming.
@@drchipbennett i watched years of sermons and series before attending in person your apologytics for those 14 weeks and no turning back. Tried attending 2 churchs for a year or so after but have been full time Grace for years now
God is blessing and you are always in our prayers along with all staff and chairs
This is fascinating. So glad these conversations are happening.
I love Dr. Walton, he's lowkey so savage
"...literal reading means reading it the way the author intended, that's how authority has to work." GREAT Stuff.
Right, and he clearly intended to convey a material creation as well as the order and functionality of it.
Fantastic discussion. Helpful. Insightful. Thanks!!
When we read the Bible, we're reading material that was composed thousands of years ago, in languages we don't use today, in a culture we weren't part of, in a place we don't live, etc. Yet we're somehow sure about what it means--not merely what the words are, but what it means--because we think their world was not too different than ours.
But if we wrote something today that a civilization 3,000 years from now found and read, that lived in another part of the world, spoke a language that didn't exist in our day, and had a society that was unimaginable to us, how likely would it be that they would understand a simple phrase like "Knock yourself out" or "Tune in, turn on, drop out." We know what it means, but how would that future society understand it?
That journey of loneliness is real. And it’s difficult.
God loves you and Jesus died for your sins and rose again to give you new life and a relationship with God. Repent and trust in Christ and He promises to be with you forever. I know loneliness is a difficult thing and life can be difficult to endure but God is good and reconciles you to Himself and will be your Father who will never reject you. God bless!
"We need each other". I whole heartedly agree. Brothers, have either of you had a debate/dialogue with any YECs like Jason Lisle or Terry Mortenson, etc.? I think it could be fruitful for the body.
what is the big deal....it says....in the beginning, and starts off with day one....seems to be quite straight forward....
That is contingent on whether you translate it is a dependent clause or an independent clause. It’s not as simple as you’re making it.
You say that what John is doing is no different from a regular hermeneutics study of Ephesians. But in an Ephesians class you can study background, culture of the day, who wrote it and why, etc, but they don't change the meaning of the text. The text is of major importance. John is changing the meaning of the text when he says that Gen 1 is not about material creation, when it clearly is about material creation. It also tells of function and order for sure, but it certainly does not exclude material creation.
I agree with you Walton is great in some areas, but genesis is his weak point , he has no scientific skills . We can definitely understand the Genesis account accurately through scientific methods . One of his arguments is genesis is not about science, well it’s not about cultural backgrounds either.
@@Terrylb285 Good point!
Great conversation. This is obviously at a high academic level and not easily or as equally accessible to all. My question stepping off these ideas is what next?. Where does this lead us to understand the rest of scripture. I have been listening to Beyond Creation Science and Tim Martin / Jeff Vaughn. They take this reading of Genesis to understand Revelation and that if Revelation is mostly spiritual then Genesis has to be also. If Genesis is about function then so what? Thanks. Love br. David - Canada.
What about polygeny and the historicity of original sin ?
Polygeny is clearly not biblical. Humans are not a product of evolution, Genesis chapters 1 & 2 confirm that, but the historicity of original sin is made very clear in Genesis chapter 3.
Is that a Van Halen motif to the left (viewer left) of Dr. Walton? 😊
You know it!
@@drchipbennett hehehe that’s so cool rock n roll pastor 😄 great content by the way. I’m seriously considering this view from IP vids. Still a YE at this time though. How do you feel this affects the NT with its references to creation?
@@gillyboyNY The NT references to creation clearly point to a material creation and a real flood by the way. The NT rejects Walton's views, without doubt.
By just seeing that you give credibility to John Walton makes me question everything else you say.
Why do we rule out God creating a mature earth just as he created mature human beings?
Absolutely. He did create a mature earth, mature universe. He made it mature, because it had to function by the sixth day for man to live on it.
So many assumptions…assuming mans was created “mature” and assuming God created a mature universe to look mature…which would be God created a lie.
@@DanWhitford you know all you have is assumptions as well, right?
@@DanWhitford Creating a mature universe is not creating a lie. God created a mature universe and mature earth so that it was ready and prepared for humans, His special creations, to be able to function and use this mature earth in this mature universe. There is lots of evidence for a mature universe in the fine-tuning of the universe. ua-cam.com/video/EE76nwimuT0/v-deo.html
I wish I had a dollar for every person I've talked to who absolutely finds Walton's views of Genesis way 'off the mark.' Many have complained his presuppositions are weak, dubious and highly debatable. He appears to be trying to add metaphysical philosophy to biblical theology and the mix is a disaster! His 'Lost' books are just that; lost in a mire of confusion and contradiction.
Thanks, I totally agree.
If I had a dollar for everyone of my friends who think the literal yec interpretation was correct, I could buy a Rolls Royce and not hurt my pocketbook. There are several proofs that indicate that not only is the universe extremely old, but that a literal Flood would have created such conditions that the earth would have baked under intense heat. Even the yec publication The Rate Project, which was intended to solve the problem admitted that a miracle would be needed to handle the intense heat. It just isn't feasible. God could have protected the Ark and the earth by sidestepping His laws, but unlikely. Other problems seem to indicate that our "interpretation" of the Bible is not correct and maybe we need to re-look at the Genesis story, such is what Dr. Walton is doing.
And Jesus will take His place in Jerusalem in the Temple at the end of the SEVEN YEAR tribulation. Brilliant!!!
You know i find something strange wierd not clearly understood by Walton all these stmts in the 41 min starting in the 11 second slot and onward. Here Walton is not so clear regarding the question Chip told him about evolution and its understanding of SIn. Walton says something controversial like death mortality was before sin even so that there was the tree of life and immortality. So then is he saying now that if there was no SIn under that time of testing Adam then would have been given the fruit of immortality that tree of LIfe? Walton has said that there was Death already Looming that perhaps Adam and eve didnt know about? Its confusing. Or he Walton has caused confusion to the point that Can we really trust is understanding of Genesis? someOne please analyse and go over that time slot. Controversial.
Walton is confusing because he is changing the meaning of the text to a meaning that cannot be justified by the text or the culture. Genesis is clearly talking about material creation as well as order and function, but material creation is there without doubt.
@RichyK finally someone responded. Thanks you know what Chip worries me. I enjoyed his teaches with scholarship Warren gage. Then he interviewed Walton whom I suspect is not part of the True church and is just a liberal scholar raised up for the purpose of causing more difficult confusion in the body of christ to those who are not well versed or I should don't have the spirit of christ in them for protection from Satans' own people. It's scary. I hope you believe in spiritual warfare. Christendom will forever be attacked from the dark side channeled thru humans....deceiving and being Deceived. Later sir.
Only the holy spirit can open your eyes for right interpretation.once man understanding comes in, it is going to be suspicious.
To be consistent, go to the end of the Bible in revelation where it describes the new heavens in the new earth. It speaks in detail about the construction of new Jerusalem, etc., therefore to follow what these guys say means that heaven is in no way material and that, the 12 gates are not literal gates, and therefore the 12 tribes are not literal tribes and therefore Israel, the people of whom the 12 tribes speak about are not literal people or tribes. How far do you want to break it down? Who is that knock so softly at the door?the answer lonely lonely, quiet little sin. Just one little sen I ask? Yes just one lonely sin may I come in? I opened the door and then soon all hell was in. Think about it.
The book of genesis is titled according to the first word--exactly the same word used by Jacob in presenting his first-born son. We see the spirit of God "brooding" over what must have been icy waters. I can see LIGHT springing from crystaline structure just as lightning springs from snow clouds. In Job we learn that light is coded with language. Light is language.The brooding is suggestive of the warm fluttering of wings, but this may have been the breath of God. More forward the the conception of the word incarnate. Again, the Holy Spirit brings forth the conception. In some way Genesis is the title and subject of the entire book. And it is all true.
When you've read the entire book as if you believed what you read, the pieces start to arrange themselves in better order. I want so badly for everyone to see what is now obvious to me. The pattern of all things is the 3 courts and Jesus on the throne/mercy seat. From here he calls us according to the purpose of life--seek my face. The 3 gospels, Mark, Matthew, Luke are hebrew words for the lessons as they are taught. מערכח or מערה has the lessons to the newbies of the day--the other 70. The word mark refers to preparation of the heart and becoming established in the kingdom. Matthew is about accepting the spirit of the father who raised up Jesus from the dead. מאת/מאתו Matthew is about accepting God's will. Luke is the hebrew word for "the latter part." Mark was a quickening of the heart; matthew was a quickening of the soul; and luke is a quickening of the mind. John is יענה which means "the beginning of the response of God." Each gospel is titled according the first words and subject. The synoptic gospels are three thirds. Your faith will finally carry you across the sea in a storm. Your light now fills a room. When Christ is fully formed in you, it is time for another birth.
John is a covered subject. The good part. All of the mysteries you read of in John, are the result of this.
Truth stands throughout time. A God would never give us his truth knowing majority of all ppl wouldn't know how to read it and would have to relate outside their time.
He would never eh? Then why are there 8 billion people in the world and most of which don't know how to read the Bible correctly? 😂
I agree, the Bible text clearly reveals a material creation as well as order and functionality, which is how it has always been understood, until John Walton is now rejecting a material creation that makes no sense.
Ever heard of the Protestant reformation that took place in the 16th century?
@@dennissprague2572 What do you mean by your comment?
22:42
Prince of egypt the dream of moses is Genesis ,king farao took the people babies and sacriface it to the crocodiles beast,thats evil thing to do in human and the cursed of it,is like coronavirus,God to king farao,smiting with the first born
Problem is science shows universe had a beginning. You cant say well he just showed up and started with stuff already in place. Yes we are willing to look outside our 'culture' box. However when simple concepts are overlooked. It becomes a way of reading it, not worth looking into!
Your correct the universe had a beginning. I think Walton’s problem is he’s interpreting Genesis and abandoning that fact that can better understand Genesis through science.
Genesis 1 is Lucifer and the fallen angels. They made this realm. They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap for angels.
Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system.
Only one Gospel:
The Gospel of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM (gods).
Spoken like a true nachash 😅
@@calebmallory4595
In Genesis 3:5 the serpent said Ye shall be AS gods.
In John 10:34, Jesus said Ye ARE gods.
Stop believing your father, the devil.
@@qwerty-so6ml May want to read the context of both of those passages, buddy.
They def thought about materials
This guy watch the matrix one too many times
What do his ideas have to do with the matrix at all 😂
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
Google *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
*Let's briefly run through the 'ten plagues':*
First the rivers are turned to blood, all the fish die and the waters stink. No one has any water to drink. This lasted for seven days and would have resulted in mass deaths due to dehydration. Amongst the first to die would have been the children. *The author doesn't think to explain how the Hebrews were saved from this. No record of it was made anywhere in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 7:17-25.
This is followed by a plague of frogs which had somehow survived the rivers of blood that had killed all the fish. A mere inconvenience, nothing more, and a big stink when they all died, *but no record anywhere.* Exodus 8:2-13.
Next we have the plague of lice about which very little is said *and of course no record was made.* To a people who would have been accustomed to lice this would probably have been nothing remarkable. Exodus 8:16-18.
Then the flies. Apart from the land being 'corrupted', whatever that means, there don't appear to have been any ill effects from this and they disappear as quickly as they came a few days later. *Nothing worth recording there, obviously.* Exodus 8:21-31.
Now the author seems to begin to lose the plot and describes a 'grievous murrain' *which kills all the Egyptians' cattle, horses, camels and sheep.* ***They all died - hold that thought.*** *No Egyptian historian or keeper of official records deems it worthy of mention.* Exodus 9:3-6.
Next come the boils which afflict everyone and everything, including all the livestock ***even though they had been killed by the 'grievous murrain' a few days earlier,*** *apparently, and yet no-one thought to write anything down anywhere.* Of course, anyone who understood anything about microorganisms and the aeteology of boils would have described this as an infestation with Staphylococcus - the signs of faecal contamination - but the author was obviously unaware of these. Maybe he was just in too much of a muddle by now to care. Exodus 9:8-11.
Now it's hailstones so bad that every plant, every tree, every servant (for servant read slave) ***and even the livestock (that our story-teller has forgotten already that he killed off in the fifth plague before given them boils in the sixth) were harmed.*** It looks like our story-teller has learned from his earlier silly mistake with killing all the livestock too soon then having to resurrect them later. He mentions that some plants survive. Do I smell stinking fish again? *The greatest hail storm in all Egyptian history, apparently, but not worthy of being recorded.* Exodus 9:18-25.
It's the turn of the locusts and it's suddenly obvious why some plants had to survive. *How could the locusts turn Egypt into a barren desert if the hail storm had done it earlier?* Good thinking there. Shame about the earlier boob! *Mysteriously, no Egyptian scribe appears to notice any of this or the inevitable famine and mass starvation which would have ensued.* Exodus 10:4-15.
And for the penultimate trick, it's going to be dark for three days. *No one makes a record of this, obviously.* Exodus 10:21-23.
The last 'plague' is not so much a plague as a ritual genocide. *Here our tale takes a nasty turn and the true character of the Hebrew god is revealed in all its glory - a petty, vindictive, homicidal psychopath who has not yet acquired the omniscience he will be granted later. He kills every firstborn Egyptian in a single night,* ***including the firstborn of all the cattle that died in the fifth plague.*** *For some reason he needs the Hebrews to leave a secret sign so he doesn't kill them too. Weirdly, he can't tell his own chosen people from ordinary Egyptians and doesn't even know where they live.* And he had been leading up to this, apparently, because after every plague he 'hardens the heart' of Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the Hebrews go. He had actually been planning this genocide all along just to impress people with his powers. *And still no-one thought even this mass killing in a single night worth making a note of in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 12:1-30.
And then, of course, Pharaoh could muster up 600 horses to pull the chariots ***from amongst all the dead livestock from the 5th plague*** (Exodus 14:7).
Google *"Rosa Rubicondior: Origins Of The Exodus Myth"*
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*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
39:00
"So, tell us, how did you wind up going off the deep end Mr Walton?"
Well, I questioned Gods word just like satan caused Eve to question it.
There is no Satan.
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
Google *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"*
*"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"*
*"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"*
(Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief)
*"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"*
*"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From?
Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica
(Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years)
*"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"*
*"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"*
*"Are The Ten Commandments Based On The Forty-Two Principles Of Maat That Appeared 2,000 Years Earlier? - Ancient Pages"*
*"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"*
*"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"*
*"No, Humans Are Probably Not All Descended From A Single Couple Who Lived 200,000 Years Ago"*
*"Adam & Eve: Theologians Try to Reconcile Science and Fail - The New Republic"*
*"Adam and Eve: the ultimate standoff between science and faith (and a contest!) - Why Evolution Is True"*
*"Bogus accommodationism: The return of Adam and Eve as real people, as proposed by a wonky quasi-scientific theory - Why Evolution Is True"*
*"How many scientists question evolution? - **sciencemeetsreligion.org**"*
*"What is the evidence for evolution? - Common-questions - BioLogos"*
(A Christian organisation)
*"Why scientists dismiss 'intelligent design' - Science"*
*"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"*
*"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*
*"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei
(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
@@LM-jz9vh Are you saying the perfect being that God created never fell/sinned and became satan?
@@RedefineApologetics what deep end ?
It’s not questioning, it’s studying the Bible and meditating on it as the Word commands us, and as is Jewish custom for millennia. However, this practice sadly is often left by the wayside in the 21st century church, who follows after false teachers and feelings, instead of studying the Word of God. Thankful for my pastor Chip and his humble heart after the Lord.
@@Sarillajoy You are missing something. Those Jews wound up rejecting Christ. Studying the bible is good, but not believing God is not good.
The Sumerians had the Epic of Creation before Genesis 1 and you know what it's practically identical so why are the Hebrews copying everything can't they make up their own stories?
Not copied from Sumerians, but from God.
@@RichyK all you have to do is prove it :)
@@truthgiver8286 You would have to prove they copied from the Sumerians. You are only assuming that. You don't know that. The correct assumption would be that it was written by inspiration from God.
@@RichyK The Sumerians wrote about it long before the Hebrews it's just as well they did not have plagiarism laws. It's a pretty safe assumption. Your assumption on the other hand requires you to prove god which you can't and is therefore a failure.
@@truthgiver8286 Okay, so you don't believe God exists, that would make sense why you assume that they copied from the Sumerians. So, why don't you believe God exists? Did you have a bad experience at a church or what?