Same in Utah, it is really sad. Please visit these amazing places, but heed the warnings. Flash floods will kill you, there is no escape from them while hiking in canyons or where the water flows.
@@HellyeahRook yes I have friends that nearly were Swept Away in a flash flood at Havasupai Campground some years ago. They scrambled up rocks and were safe but they lost their belongings.
I was camping 10 miles from this incident leaving my camp late on the 12th. To think this tragedy was occurring so close and yet having no idea. Truly a tragedy.
My mom told me a story about her uncle who disappeared in the 1940's. She was just a teenager at the time and she said that he would walk a certain trail every morning after eating breakfast. The trail was by their house in the woods of central Mississippi and took about an hour or so to walk. He had been walking this trail for years and years when weather conditions permitted. She said that he left the house as usual and was never seen again. No trace of the man was ever located even though dozens of people looked for him for weeks and months. It was a total mystery.
Like he just went somewhere else? Was he unhAppy? Suicidal? Fed up? Bored? Tired? So he wanted to walk away from his life? Did he just vanished and went somrwhere else to live , or maybe foul play was involved? Or do you think he died somewhere up in the woods but noone found him yet? What do you think happened.
So, Lebowski, was his disappearance ever picked up by a TV show, such as “ Unsolved Mysteries” or on a vanished podcast or on YT? Just wondering. That sux that he vanished like that, damn!
I think the issue is more "innocence" than arrogance. Living in Idaho amidst millions of acres of really wild, dangerous country, we see it every year. People simply don't realize it's easy to die out here. Grizzlies, wolves bears, lions, etc. Not to mention plain old accidents, falls, etc. I've spent a huge chunk of my life out there without mishap, but I fully respect the dangers. I KNOW the wilds can easily kill me. You must exercise complete awareness of your situation at all times. I'm still alive, but who knows how many times I might have been, without knowing it, on the razor edge of being in serious trouble.
I've seen water in a 20 foot high wall barrel down these types of canyons. It was on a cloudy day and not raining where I was. If it rains in the mountains where the flow comes from it goes into the valleys and into these types of canyons fast.
I would want to know the weather for a minimum of 48 hours before I would even consider doing that hike ,it’s a tragic accident , sincere condolences to the families
Before even listening, that was my first thought of what likely happened. Flash floods can come from a long ways away. There'd be no trace left of them in all probability. My heart goes out to their families. 💔😪🙏
Bryan, you do such a spectacular job of bringing these stories to light, and you do a fantastic job of helping to keep people safe and prepared. I love your compassion and kindness. There is truly no other channel like yours, and I wish you all the best!
@@TrudyPatootie thank you, I appreciate the kind words and you subscribing! I hope you had a wonderful holiday and 2024 will be a great year for you🙏 please let me know if you ever have a case you'd like me to cover. Thanks again!
Thank you, you're too kind! I know I can do better but I'm still making all my videos on my phone so I'm limited but I really appreciate your kind words🙏thank you!
This is really scary. I live in Park City, UT and still have 6-8’ of snow pack in my neighborhood. The majority of the runoff hasn’t even made its way down south yet. I don’t think slot canyons will be a good idea for weeks yet. Stay safe everyone.
My wife and I were in the area when this happened. There were multiple rescues during this time (we heard and saw helicopters flying), but fortunately these were the only deaths. What I don't understand is that the rain didn't come from sudden summer thunderstorms, it came from the 'atmospheric river' that was pounding Los Angeles and some of it was making all that way into the desert. It was a consistently cold, wet, rainy and snowy March in Arizona and Utah. Going into a slot canyon then seemed crazy. I chatted with a local guide out there and he wanted to know who it was that agreed to drive these guys to the trailhead. Such an avoidable tragedy.
David Rankin's YT channel has some of the best videos of canyon flash floods that I've ever seen. I never realized the power of these western flash floods!!! As always, great job on this video, Bryan.
@My Cancer Journey omg I'm so sorry to hear about your diagnosis but also sending you positive thoughts 🙏 how are you doing now? I'll definitely check out your Channel and subscribe. It does take a while. So I understand..u had my channel for over a year with a few hundred subs then all of a sudden it just went high. I'll be praying for you🙏🙏
@House of Solomon sadly there is no service in canyons. So an app can't work. As in a warning like that that can be sent out like amber alerts. And thr BLM (Breau of land managament) probably will take major issue to installing even something like trail cameras/any kind of monitoring thing. BLM can get extremely... picky about that kind of thing.
My wife & I were there in December. You're walking in sand for hours upon hours. Even in perfect weather it was exhausting. It must have been horrific when that water came.
Bryan, great video. I live in Utah and follow the Search & Rescue missions weekly. I have one exception with your video @ 8:28 where you say there is no way they could have known about this sudden storm. Well that week was terrible across the entire State as far as rain, snow and thunderstorms. There was every indication that this period was not a great time to be in any slot canyon in Utah and they warned of this on the news every single night. Problem is, you have to get a permit to hike Buckskin far in advance of doing so... You take time off work, prepare and plan, travel across the country and when you get to the trailhead its time for adventure even though it really isn't. If you go back and check the news reports, every person rescued out of that canyon was from back east, mostly Florida. People around here were saying there couldn't have been a worse stretch of weather as far as precipitation and unpredictability all winter. It just had not let up for weeks... Regardless, very sad for all involved. I believe some of those others who were rescued also have some recovery from injuries and trauma. Be safe out there everyone.
Thank you for your feedback and yes you're right , however, I don't like to say things that may upset the families. But yes you're right there's always information and precautions we can all take. Thank you again for you feedback🙏
Lance, I hear you and thank you for your feedback. I do agree with your thoughts...in tragedies like this I try and offer advice to future hikers etc without " blaming the victim " yes you're right about weather and I did say to always check and double check..I guess I just always feel bad about " trampling on a man's grave' you know? But thank you for your feedback and info..I appreciate it! And thank you for watching🙏🙏
@@bawattsyl Bryan, my primary field is aviation and sadly almost every accident is caused by human error. Aviation however demands that we learn from the mistakes or errors of others and study it intensely, hoping to never repeat those same errors. If I crash my plane someday, I sincerely hope others can learn from everything I did wrong and avoid the same fate. They have my permission lol.. Some "feel" that is is awful to lay blame on the deceased and while I haven't tried to lash out or heap scorn on any of these hikers, we still need to understand the chain of events and the judgement errors of these accidents. I think there are many more factors in their decision to go. I wish we knew and could understand all of them. I can't help but to think if they had more time and/or opportunity to sit tight for a couple of days things would be different. As noted above, the lottery system doesn't allow for that so I feel that is one real and disheartening "factor" in moving forward with plans- despite the weather. No shame, shade or insult directed at any of these fine people. Thank you for reaching out!!
Such a bad deal and as Bryan stated I don't want to 'trample graves', so to speak, but you are 100% right. The weather and melt conditions could not have been much worse. I spend a ton of time in the slots and when this story broke I couldn't believe ANYONE was in ANY slot in S Utah when this happened, especially Buckskin: Several miles, one way in, one hard-to-spot 'mid' exit, then a junction with Paria canyon which can be just as bad in the lower narrow section. Then I find out there were a dozen rescues in one weekend (??!??). Sometimes the weather just doesn't cooperate despite the best laid plans and the strongest willpower. Better to bag it and live to hike another day.
If they were as well-trained as claimed, why were they in a deep canyon like that in March? I've visited in May, and even then, you check the freakin' weather upstream and don't fool around if there's any hint of rain and you get the hell out of the canyon asap, in any case.
Thank you for alerting people and giving them awareness that you can lose your life in a minute in a flash flood you have to be prepared for anything when you go out on a hike maybe if they took some life preservers that would have helped them the kind you can blow up yourselfWhat a tragedy
Hey Bryan, Ya know, these are always sad stories. But I’m glad you give the families and victims the respect they deserve. And remind us to do the same here in the comments. The work you put into these videos is very much appreciated. Thanks Bryan. ❤️💜💚
Yes, always very sad when we can't save or find everyone:( and I can only imagine what the families and loved ones go through so I always treat them all with the upmost respect and how I would want to be treated in the circumstances. I always wish I could do more🙏 thank you for watching and your support and kind words🙏
Yeah sure.. Did dwelling in sadness ever save anyone in trouble? How about your beloved God gave these clever men a functional brain or prevented the whole?
I can't imagine, with all the storms that came through the southwest over the entire winter, that those smart people put themselves in that situation. I've spent my life in the outdoors, and I would never have done that. It's all about the risk/reward ratio. In this case, small reward and enormous risk consequences. A very sad event that needn't/shouldn't have happened.
@@rockymtn1291 Yes, but luck tends to favor people who make good decisions. As Clauswitz (sp) said, and I paraphrase, "you plan for what COULD happen, not for what MIGHT happen"
Indeed. I live in a forest and can tell you many tales of city people who love to tempt fate in our mountains. If they are lucky, they will only have a very expensive chopper bill.
I was caught in a flash flood along Salt Creek, a canyon route to access Sinbad Valley, Southwest Colorado years ago. The speed, and intensity of the change from damp, drizzly conditions, but still easy travel, to raging runoff from water coming down the mesa above was unbelievable. Thankfully, I lived through it to learn a valuable lesson, Never ever go into a canyon that can flood when it has been prolonged rain, is raining steady/heavy, or forecast rain. The runoff was forceful enough to knock me off my dirt bike, and when I crossed Salt Creek several times on the way in it was only 2-3 inches deep. During the flash flood about 4 or 5 hours later, the creek was about knee deep and extreme flow velocity. I had to leave the motorbike and hike back to the truck. Thankfully, I got out, soggy, but unscathed, as I said, able to learn an important lesson.
God Bless the search and rescue teams who save as many as they can while risking their own lives. I think of them as Earth Angels. You are too. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻🇨🇦
Great job of getting this info out to save others. Huge loss to society. Highly dangerous ,but the lure of the adventure is strong. Condolences to the families.😢
I've actually been there, when the weather was mercifully calm. Its spectacular, but you don't have to get a mile into the canyon to comprehend why there are flash flood signs up all over the place. Part of the planning understands you're going to spend at least one night in there, and to savor every step a lot of people like to take 4 days and three nights to get all the way through Paria Canyon to Lee's Ferry (the Colorado River). So it's not the weather you see above you, it could be miles away, days in the future. It's getting expert advice about what the forecast will be like. I know Bryan's channel isn't the place for such analysis, but I'm honestly baffled they chose to go in there when they did. I'd also like to know what kind of information they sought, and received when they picked up their permit.
The guides in the area were refusing to take anyone down the canyon or even drop people off at the trailhead. There were 'red flags' everywhere. Always check with the locals. Even a quick phone call could save your life.
There is safety advices and weather forecasts made freely available for obvious reasons! Don't count on other people risking their lives to compensate for personal ignorance! In Europe we have skyrocketing rescue operations overwhelming local Safety Organisations, while clueless and careless Eastern Europeans suddenly have gained access to the Alps and Norwegian mountains! Plain unbelievable how carelessly ignorant people are strolling around in very demanding nature..
I’m praying God comforts these families and wraps them in a love only he can give 🙏 I pray the Dr doesn’t suffer with survivors guilt! So many do! I pray God comforts him and gives him peace! Thank you for sharing this I’m so happy you’re feeling better and I’m happy you’re back! You’re always in my prayers God Bless You Bryan 🙏🤗
Spot on! Otherwise how do intelligent, science based (MD’s !!) people make a decision to undertake this with all the known or readily knowable information of the conditions? Boggles the mind!
The storytelling was muddled, two men, no mention of when the third person joined, no initial mention of snow being a cautionary factor, the "remains" of the last person who had stayed & rested? But was found alive, how can a live persons remains be found. Badly put together.
Watching David Rankins flash flood videos while listening to this video. Good grief, the power of water should never be underestimated. Great videos Bryan ❤
The power of water, indeed. Before everyone was wired for electric power, water was the main source of mechanical power, and the water wheel was used to convert it. I don't live close enough to the nearest creek to tap it, but I am always looking at things from an unclaimed energy perspective. I'm almost ashamed to say I could not help thinking about how much power could be generated from that amount of water getting forced into such a bottleneck. Heck, you could power a huge house just with a spillway pipe run to basically a water wheel turbine...the force must have been, well...a force of nature. There is a reason people use this idiom; we are powerless against mother nature when she decides to rage. Sometimes I wonder how we manage to survive very long at all, with as fragile as we are compared to something like a flash flood. Death is such a strange thing to process, in my opinion, especially because our love for people we lost does not ever fade away. We just keep on loving them the rest of our lives, like our separation is merely temporary. It is remarkable. It's hard, though, to fathom how someone can work so hard to make a life for themsleves, only to be gone forever in a moment. I will say, there is more to living than simply not being dead, but living life to the fullest often requires us to tether one arm to a calendar, and the other to a clock. Perhaps the deaths of these fine men should serve to remind us that nature has its own schedule, and no regard for ours. I extend my sympathy to the families and loved ones who survived them...may they rest in peace. Cheers!
Outstanding Video and narration of a sincerely tragic Event .... Thoughts and Prayers to all those and families involved ...... Rest in Peace and those they left to HEAL and Comfort ...
Thank you for the video and research. I'm an Alaskan I'll be heading out to the remote bush soon for a couple weeks, all alone. I'm a wildlife photographer it will be great to get out after a snowy winter. We still have a probably 3 to 4 feet of snow, up to 6 feet in some areas. Seeing the ground again after a long dark winter, will be great. Take care everyone. Joe
You forgot one other person on the thank you list...YOU. You always bring us the stories and tips to keep safe while out. Your a rare beautiful soul my friend. Cheers from canada
Bryan, this is such a compassionate telling of a tragic story. Had not heard of this. Thank you!!❤️ This caused me to find a video showing a hike through this place, done by Whistlepig Studios: Beneath the Surface/ Chest Deep in Buckskin Gulch. It’s an outstanding video! Puts you right there in the experience.❤️
We had such strange weather this year in CA. It was snowing in Hollywood for the first time in decades. I know it has caught a lot of people off guard - no one could have foreseen this, really.
It's not that strange. We just live through a very short snapshot of the climate of the region. When it rains, it pours. And then there's drought. People think the weather we're having is unprecedented, when really, the weather's been very calm for a long time, and we're freaked about it returning to normal.
Thanks for the presentation. I was thinking of doing this trip, because I love Vermilion Cliffs area. The info you presented has helped me to be better prepared. You won a subscriber!
Have fun and yes I hear it's a beautiful hike but please be safe🙏 let me know how it goes and definitely take pics of you'd like to submit one for the calendar... stay safe and have a good trip🙏🙏
@@bawattsyl made it back alive, it was so fun! I can see why it's so popular. Wouldn't do it again though, there's absolutely no way out and no gps/cell at all for *so much* of it. Got a few pics, I'll have to get them edited first though. Cheers
Yup, I've seen walls of water roar down a narrow canyon. Usually it starts as a flood a few inches deep but it builds very quickly into a flood many feet deep. But sometimes if there's a real narrow section it turns into an actual wall of water.
There is literally one way out of Buckskin over the entire length of the canyon, and it's very hard to spot. If you miss it, you're committed for the long haul.
Most people don't realize that it can be clear and sunny where you are, and rain miles away will cause a flash flood. I remember as a teen being a passenger with my Dad driving us. It was a sunny late afternoon, driving through a hilly area with the highway in the valley. Suddenly, off to the right, we saw a small muddy, wall of water rushing down through a gully towards the road. We weren't in any danger TBH. It was narrow and contained, and there were no steep drop offs, or other water around to be washed into. As well, we were a driving past it, as the flood was running perpendicular to the road. It was a surprise to realize how a hazard you hadn't considered could affect you, simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Hello everyone, I hope you are all well. Please remember that in all my videos I list my sources, and credit photos or anything like that in the description.. One of the experts I read about while researching this case is David Rankin. I have several links to his Channel in the description. He's been studying these flash floods in and around this area for decades. I also want to say thank you again for all your support and comments🙏 This Channel is just as much yours as it is mine. Please always let me know any cases you'd like me to cover and I will cover it. Happy spring!
I hiked this coming in from wire pass. The water in buckskin was shockingly cold in May and I’m used to Lake Superior. We only made it about 1.5 miles and turned around. Water was deep and cold even though it hadn’t rained in a while. One of the few times I’ve bailed on a hike but you have to know when to quit.
I know that area quite well. The way I describe a flash flood is like this: If you can stand in a river below a damn holding that river back breaks open and you can still stand there then don't worry about a flash flood. The run off is gaining speed and crap as it rolls down through the valleys.
I am 78 and have hiked Buckskin 4 times. It is a terrible thing to get caught there but if you are careful and conservative you can do it and it is worth all the effort. I did it once with my 10 year old son without a problem
The dangers of exploring the southern Utah canyon country are not to be underestimated. It’s easy to get lost or trapped, and escape routes are often distant and treacherous. I nearly became a statistic myself while hiking alone in Canyonlands years ago. I learned some hard lessons that day.
These are from slow rising melt in the streams and when hiking downstream it takes a while to.rise, by the time you notice it, it is too late to leave. We did this hike in February and we noticed the water rising and left in a hurry. There was a foot of snow when we started the hike.
We went to Paria Contact Station(pretty much a must thing to do for the best info on the gulches here), which is in the area, within a day or 2 of the time we hiked. We checked weather reports for a couple weeks before going as well. Rain can affect the canyon from 40 or so miles away. What seems locally safe weather-wise, can be very unsafe due to rain or snow melt regionally. Even after all the homework we did I was still nervous. It is an awesome gulch to explore and we only went in a couple miles!
I live in AZ and have hiked a great deal in this country. People do not take flash flood seriously and end up caught in deadly situations.
Same in Utah, it is really sad. Please visit these amazing places, but heed the warnings. Flash floods will kill you, there is no escape from them while hiking in canyons or where the water flows.
@@HellyeahRook yes I have friends that nearly were Swept Away in a flash flood at Havasupai Campground some years ago. They scrambled up rocks and were safe but they lost their belongings.
I've seen flash floods you only have minutes to get to higher ground. Minutes not hours !!
I also live in Arizona. They also don’t take the heat or need for water seriously.
People do not pay attention to tides either. Some can be clueless when it comes to nature and who is actually in controll!
How heartbreaking for everyone involved. Thank you for telling the story with such compassion and empathy 🙏
I was camping 10 miles from this incident leaving my camp late on the 12th. To think this tragedy was occurring so close and yet having no idea. Truly a tragedy.
My mom told me a story about her uncle who disappeared in the 1940's. She was just a teenager at the time and she said that he would walk a certain trail every morning after eating breakfast.
The trail was by their house in the woods of central Mississippi and took about an hour or so to walk.
He had been walking this trail for years and years when weather conditions permitted. She said that he left the house as usual and was never seen again.
No trace of the man was ever located even though dozens of people looked for him for weeks and months.
It was a total mystery.
Like he just went somewhere else? Was he unhAppy? Suicidal? Fed up? Bored? Tired? So he wanted to walk away from his life? Did he just vanished and went somrwhere else to live , or maybe foul play was involved? Or do you think he died somewhere up in the woods but noone found him yet? What do you think happened.
@@hardver8855
Dollars to donuts he went unarmed.
Kind of like a parachute . . .
So, Lebowski, was his disappearance ever picked up by a TV show, such as “ Unsolved Mysteries” or on a vanished podcast or on YT? Just wondering. That sux that he vanished like that, damn!
I wonder if he should be added to the panam 411 missing… david paulides
where's the money Lebowski ?!
I think the issue is more "innocence" than arrogance. Living in Idaho amidst millions of acres of really wild, dangerous country, we see it every year. People simply don't realize it's easy to die out here. Grizzlies, wolves bears, lions, etc. Not to mention plain old accidents, falls, etc. I've spent a huge chunk of my life out there without mishap, but I fully respect the dangers. I KNOW the wilds can easily kill me. You must exercise complete awareness of your situation at all times. I'm still alive, but who knows how many times I might have been, without knowing it, on the razor edge of being in serious trouble.
So very sad, thanks for the reminder.
I've seen water in a 20 foot high wall barrel down these types of canyons. It was on a cloudy day and not raining where I was. If it rains in the mountains where the flow comes from it goes into the valleys and into these types of canyons fast.
Desert ground doesn't absorb water easy, it just flushes through the area. Terrifying. I live in a very rainy but swampy area.
I would want to know the weather for a minimum of 48 hours before I would even consider doing that hike ,it’s a tragic accident , sincere condolences to the families
Before even listening, that was my first thought of what likely happened. Flash floods can come from a long ways away. There'd be no trace left of them in all probability. My heart goes out to their families. 💔😪🙏
Isn't it possible to predict a flood by following the weather forecast?
@@OmmerSyssel Not in the Southwest canyons. A rainstorm can be 80 miles away and send a wall of water to an area that is hot and sunny.
I really like your empathy! Thank you!
Bryan, you do such a spectacular job of bringing these stories to light, and you do a fantastic job of helping to keep people safe and prepared. I love your compassion and kindness. There is truly no other channel like yours, and I wish you all the best!
Thank you so much! That's so kind of you to say🙏 I really appreciate your kind words and support 🙏
@@bawattsyl *I just subscribed. First of all you do your research and*
*it shows...you are compassionate and have a very soothing voice!*
@@TrudyPatootie thank you, I appreciate the kind words and you subscribing! I hope you had a wonderful holiday and 2024 will be a great year for you🙏 please let me know if you ever have a case you'd like me to cover. Thanks again!
@@bawattsyl *Thank you Bawattsy!*
*You have a wonderful year too! And*
*I will let you know I promise!*
Best content ever with such a sincere effort to keep people safe. Thank you Bryan!
Thank you, you're too kind! I know I can do better but I'm still making all my videos on my phone so I'm limited but I really appreciate your kind words🙏thank you!
I couldn't have said it better
Totally agree. Thank you, Bryan.
@@PatsyCollyer Thank you so much, that's so kind🙏
Very accomplished men that left a significant positive influence on society.
Cool channel. So sorry for the guy's that lost their lives and their loved ones.
Amazing work. Thank you for your informative content
Prayers for the Drs families
This is really scary. I live in Park City, UT and still have 6-8’ of snow pack in my neighborhood. The majority of the runoff hasn’t even made its way down south yet. I don’t think slot canyons will be a good idea for weeks yet. Stay safe everyone.
My wife and I were in the area when this happened. There were multiple rescues during this time (we heard and saw helicopters flying), but fortunately these were the only deaths. What I don't understand is that the rain didn't come from sudden summer thunderstorms, it came from the 'atmospheric river' that was pounding Los Angeles and some of it was making all that way into the desert. It was a consistently cold, wet, rainy and snowy March in Arizona and Utah. Going into a slot canyon then seemed crazy. I chatted with a local guide out there and he wanted to know who it was that agreed to drive these guys to the trailhead. Such an avoidable tragedy.
David Rankin's YT channel has some of the best videos of canyon flash floods that I've ever seen. I never realized the power of these western flash floods!!! As always, great job on this video, Bryan.
Maybe an app. developed to identify canyons susceptible to flash floods - as a safety feature to warn people not familiar w/ the area.
I don't know him but he seems like a great guy and I added links to his Channel in the description 🙏
@@LTJC70 I have several links to his Channel and info in the description of this video🙏
@My Cancer Journey omg I'm so sorry to hear about your diagnosis but also sending you positive thoughts 🙏 how are you doing now? I'll definitely check out your Channel and subscribe. It does take a while. So I understand..u had my channel for over a year with a few hundred subs then all of a sudden it just went high. I'll be praying for you🙏🙏
@House of Solomon sadly there is no service in canyons. So an app can't work. As in a warning like that that can be sent out like amber alerts. And thr BLM (Breau of land managament) probably will take major issue to installing even something like trail cameras/any kind of monitoring thing. BLM can get extremely... picky about that kind of thing.
You aways sound so genuine in your condolences ❤. Thank you for cautioning people without telling them not to have adventures.
You're such a kind person - thanks for the great videos, Bryan!
The canyon is beautiful
My wife & I were there in December. You're walking in sand for hours upon hours. Even in perfect weather it was exhausting. It must have been horrific when that water came.
I can't imagine! Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm glad you were able to enjoy and get home safe🙏🙏 thank you for watching and your feedback 🙏
Any slot canyon susceptible to flash flood is a no-go zone for this camper : (
Bryan, great video. I live in Utah and follow the Search & Rescue missions weekly. I have one exception with your video @ 8:28 where you say there is no way they could have known about this sudden storm. Well that week was terrible across the entire State as far as rain, snow and thunderstorms. There was every indication that this period was not a great time to be in any slot canyon in Utah and they warned of this on the news every single night. Problem is, you have to get a permit to hike Buckskin far in advance of doing so... You take time off work, prepare and plan, travel across the country and when you get to the trailhead its time for adventure even though it really isn't. If you go back and check the news reports, every person rescued out of that canyon was from back east, mostly Florida. People around here were saying there couldn't have been a worse stretch of weather as far as precipitation and unpredictability all winter. It just had not let up for weeks... Regardless, very sad for all involved. I believe some of those others who were rescued also have some recovery from injuries and trauma. Be safe out there everyone.
Thank you for your feedback and yes you're right , however, I don't like to say things that may upset the families. But yes you're right there's always information and precautions we can all take. Thank you again for you feedback🙏
It is unfortunate that because of the lottery system sometimes people have few options except to go to the location and take their chances.
Lance, I hear you and thank you for your feedback. I do agree with your thoughts...in tragedies like this I try and offer advice to future hikers etc without " blaming the victim " yes you're right about weather and I did say to always check and double check..I guess I just always feel bad about " trampling on a man's grave' you know? But thank you for your feedback and info..I appreciate it! And thank you for watching🙏🙏
@@bawattsyl Bryan, my primary field is aviation and sadly almost every accident is caused by human error. Aviation however demands that we learn from the mistakes or errors of others and study it intensely, hoping to never repeat those same errors. If I crash my plane someday, I sincerely hope others can learn from everything I did wrong and avoid the same fate. They have my permission lol.. Some "feel" that is is awful to lay blame on the deceased and while I haven't tried to lash out or heap scorn on any of these hikers, we still need to understand the chain of events and the judgement errors of these accidents. I think there are many more factors in their decision to go. I wish we knew and could understand all of them. I can't help but to think if they had more time and/or opportunity to sit tight for a couple of days things would be different. As noted above, the lottery system doesn't allow for that so I feel that is one real and disheartening "factor" in moving forward with plans- despite the weather. No shame, shade or insult directed at any of these fine people. Thank you for reaching out!!
Such a bad deal and as Bryan stated I don't want to 'trample graves', so to speak, but you are 100% right. The weather and melt conditions could not have been much worse. I spend a ton of time in the slots and when this story broke I couldn't believe ANYONE was in ANY slot in S Utah when this happened, especially Buckskin: Several miles, one way in, one hard-to-spot 'mid' exit, then a junction with Paria canyon which can be just as bad in the lower narrow section. Then I find out there were a dozen rescues in one weekend (??!??). Sometimes the weather just doesn't cooperate despite the best laid plans and the strongest willpower. Better to bag it and live to hike another day.
Such a sad story. Theses men seemed to be well trained but with a flash flood it seems impossible to be prepared. My heart goes out to the families.
If they were as well-trained as claimed, why were they in a deep canyon like that in March? I've visited in May, and even then, you check the freakin' weather upstream and don't fool around if there's any hint of rain and you get the hell out of the canyon asap, in any case.
@@harrymills2770 , even better, yet, stay out of the canyon. Weather changes all the time.😢
It sucks when people die like this but worse when it is people who save other lives for a living! 😢😢
Mercy. That has to be terrifying seeing the rise of water
Nicely done article by the narrator.
Thank you 🙏
Knowing the weather is important
Bryan. Thanks again. You are so consistent in urging people to be prepared and cautious when going out to enjoy beautiful nature.
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback 🙏
Thank you for alerting people and giving them awareness that you can lose your life in a minute in a flash flood you have to be prepared for anything when you go out on a hike maybe if they took some life preservers that would have helped them the kind you can blow up yourselfWhat a tragedy
Thank you God bless you and kee you safe
Hey Bryan, Ya know, these are always sad stories. But I’m glad you give the families and victims the respect they deserve. And remind us to do the same here in the comments. The work you put into these videos is very much appreciated. Thanks Bryan.
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Yes, always very sad when we can't save or find everyone:( and I can only imagine what the families and loved ones go through so I always treat them all with the upmost respect and how I would want to be treated in the circumstances. I always wish I could do more🙏 thank you for watching and your support and kind words🙏
Thanks for sharing. Such a tragic story. Your title implies that all three (3) perished and or were never found.
Just hearing your voice makes me want to give you a huge hug for your kindness towards the families of the unfortunate people who go missing.
Prayers to family!! 😢😢😢
Yeah sure.. Did dwelling in sadness ever save anyone in trouble? How about your beloved God gave these clever men a functional brain or prevented the whole?
Ty Brian🙏🏼🛡🙏🏼
I can't imagine, with all the storms that came through the southwest over the entire winter, that those smart people put themselves in that situation. I've spent my life in the outdoors, and I would never have done that. It's all about the risk/reward ratio. In this case, small reward and enormous risk consequences. A very sad event that needn't/shouldn't have happened.
You can be smart and still have bad luck.
@@rockymtn1291 Yes, but luck tends to favor people who make good decisions. As Clauswitz (sp) said, and I paraphrase, "you plan for what COULD happen, not for what MIGHT happen"
Indeed. I live in a forest and can tell you many tales of city people who love to tempt fate in our mountains. If they are lucky, they will only have a very expensive chopper bill.
Thanks Bryan, for another fantastic video ! A very tragic story, which you tell so respectfully.
Sending healing energy your way !
Prayers
I was caught in a flash flood along Salt Creek, a canyon route to access Sinbad Valley, Southwest Colorado years ago. The speed, and intensity of the change from damp, drizzly conditions, but still easy travel, to raging runoff from water coming down the mesa above was unbelievable. Thankfully, I lived through it to learn a valuable lesson, Never ever go into a canyon that can flood when it has been prolonged rain, is raining steady/heavy, or forecast rain. The runoff was forceful enough to knock me off my dirt bike, and when I crossed Salt Creek several times on the way in it was only 2-3 inches deep. During the flash flood about 4 or 5 hours later, the creek was about knee deep and extreme flow velocity. I had to leave the motorbike and hike back to the truck. Thankfully, I got out, soggy, but unscathed, as I said, able to learn an important lesson.
God Bless the search and rescue teams who save as many as they can while risking their own lives. I think of them as Earth Angels. You are too. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻🇨🇦
I'm mesmerized by those Wave like parks.
We hiked Buckskin Gulch last year.
Great job of getting this info out to save others. Huge loss to society. Highly dangerous ,but the lure of the adventure is strong. Condolences to the families.😢
Thank you for this video, and the respect you show for their loved-ones. I hope you are feeling better and getting through your recent illness.
Thank you for your feedback and kind words🙏 thank you so much🙏🙏
I've actually been there, when the weather was mercifully calm. Its spectacular, but you don't have to get a mile into the canyon to comprehend why there are flash flood signs up all over the place.
Part of the planning understands you're going to spend at least one night in there, and to savor every step a lot of people like to take 4 days and three nights to get all the way through Paria Canyon to Lee's Ferry (the Colorado River). So it's not the weather you see above you, it could be miles away, days in the future. It's getting expert advice about what the forecast will be like. I know Bryan's channel isn't the place for such analysis, but I'm honestly baffled they chose to go in there when they did. I'd also like to know what kind of information they sought, and received when they picked up their permit.
The guides in the area were refusing to take anyone down the canyon or even drop people off at the trailhead. There were 'red flags' everywhere. Always check with the locals. Even a quick phone call could save your life.
I agree. The weather forecast is posted at the Ranger Station at the trailhead. Take no chances in a slot canyon
@@CJ-1776 Thanks CJ. Agree.
Such a tragedy. May those men rest in eternal peace with Jesus. Thanks for sharing all your wonderful videos. Stay safe and God bless.
I did that hike. I agree. Last month was a terrible time given the winter rain and melting snowpack.
There are search and rescue teams because there is a need for it....remember that when you go out for hike.👌💕
Even so, you can still easily die… so remember that too, and prepare YOURSELF well.
There is safety advices and weather forecasts made freely available for obvious reasons! Don't count on other people risking their lives to compensate for personal ignorance!
In Europe we have skyrocketing rescue operations overwhelming local Safety Organisations, while clueless and careless Eastern Europeans suddenly have gained access to the Alps and Norwegian mountains!
Plain unbelievable how carelessly ignorant people are strolling around in very demanding nature..
Yes have to agree you do a spectacular job with these missing people & rescue! Thanks
God bless you too. May they all Rest In Peace.
I’m praying God comforts these families and wraps them in a love only he can give 🙏 I pray the Dr doesn’t suffer with survivors guilt! So many do! I pray God comforts him and gives him peace! Thank you for sharing this I’m so happy you’re feeling better and I’m happy you’re back! You’re always in my prayers God Bless You Bryan 🙏🤗
Why when God caused it to happen
This happens often in the Negev and Arava deserts in Israel in the winter. A lot of hiker arrogance being the cause.
Agree.
Spot on! Otherwise how do intelligent, science based (MD’s !!) people make a decision to undertake this with all the known or readily knowable information of the conditions? Boggles the mind!
The storytelling was muddled, two men, no mention of when the third person joined, no initial mention of snow being a cautionary factor, the "remains" of the last person who had stayed & rested? But was found alive, how can a live persons remains be found. Badly put together.
Watching David Rankins flash flood videos while listening to this video. Good grief, the power of water should never be underestimated. Great videos Bryan ❤
The power of water, indeed. Before everyone was wired for electric power, water was the main source of mechanical power, and the water wheel was used to convert it. I don't live close enough to the nearest creek to tap it, but I am always looking at things from an unclaimed energy perspective. I'm almost ashamed to say I could not help thinking about how much power could be generated from that amount of water getting forced into such a bottleneck. Heck, you could power a huge house just with a spillway pipe run to basically a water wheel turbine...the force must have been, well...a force of nature. There is a reason people use this idiom; we are powerless against mother nature when she decides to rage.
Sometimes I wonder how we manage to survive very long at all, with as fragile as we are compared to something like a flash flood. Death is such a strange thing to process, in my opinion, especially because our love for people we lost does not ever fade away. We just keep on loving them the rest of our lives, like our separation is merely temporary. It is remarkable. It's hard, though, to fathom how someone can work so hard to make a life for themsleves, only to be gone forever in a moment. I will say, there is more to living than simply not being dead, but living life to the fullest often requires us to tether one arm to a calendar, and the other to a clock. Perhaps the deaths of these fine men should serve to remind us that nature has its own schedule, and no regard for ours. I extend my sympathy to the families and loved ones who survived them...may they rest in peace. Cheers!
Great job of storytelling the event. Yes it is so important to be alert and take caution when venturing out.
Outstanding Video and narration of a sincerely tragic Event .... Thoughts and Prayers to all those and families involved ...... Rest in Peace and those they left to HEAL and Comfort ...
I know i dont know you, but you seem like the nicest most genuine person. Thank you for qll your videos. i hope you stay safe and well too!
Thank you, I really appreciate that! Your kind words mean a lot to me🙏
Thank you always 💓
Thank you for your feedback and kind words 🙏
Thank you for all you do.
I’ve never heard of this particular case.
Thank you for this video. This points up the necessity of careful monitoring of environmental issues when venturing into the great outdoors.
Thank you for the video and research. I'm an Alaskan I'll be heading out to the remote bush soon for a couple weeks, all alone. I'm a wildlife photographer it will be great to get out after a snowy winter. We still have a probably 3 to 4 feet of snow, up to 6 feet in some areas. Seeing the ground again after a long dark winter, will be great. Take care everyone. Joe
Why don't you go skiing when snow is still around?
Nothing like winter with stable weather conditions and terrain is flattened by snow. ☃️
Love your content Bryan! Hope you're healing well.
Thank you, that's very kind. I appreciate your support and kind feedback🙏
You forgot one other person on the thank you list...YOU. You always bring us the stories and tips to keep safe while out. Your a rare beautiful soul my friend. Cheers from canada
Bryan, this is such a compassionate telling of a tragic story. Had not heard of this. Thank you!!❤️ This caused me to find a video showing a hike through this place, done by Whistlepig Studios: Beneath the Surface/ Chest Deep in Buckskin Gulch. It’s an outstanding video! Puts you right there in the experience.❤️
Wow, it sure is beautiful.
My heart goes out to the families of the men who lost their lives. May you all heal and eventually find peace. Very sorry for your loss....
Appreciate the effort You put unto these Thank You
I hope they find them. God Bless.
You always have great content ❤ keep it up Bryan!
We had such strange weather this year in CA. It was snowing in Hollywood for the first time in decades. I know it has caught a lot of people off guard - no one could have foreseen this, really.
Three La Niña in a row.
They can have drastic effects.
I didn't see the snow in Hollywood. Very interesting.
There's always snow flakes in hollywood.
With the amount of weather modification the government is involved with, I am not shocked at all with the weird weather.
It's not that strange. We just live through a very short snapshot of the climate of the region. When it rains, it pours. And then there's drought. People think the weather we're having is unprecedented, when really, the weather's been very calm for a long time, and we're freaked about it returning to normal.
Thanks for the presentation. I was thinking of doing this trip, because I love Vermilion Cliffs area. The info you presented has helped me to be better prepared. You won a subscriber!
Thank you🙏🙏
When I was at Buckskin, it actually snowed. It was wild.
Thank you for your really great job Bryan. I appreciate your videos a lot.
Some of the Rescue People have died during rescue! GREAT PEOPLE!!!!
Hey Bryan 💙 hope you are feeling well and doing great!
Thank you so much🙏
I'm going into this exact canyon in may 😅 going to be really careful about those flash floods.
Have fun and yes I hear it's a beautiful hike but please be safe🙏 let me know how it goes and definitely take pics of you'd like to submit one for the calendar... stay safe and have a good trip🙏🙏
@@bawattsyl made it back alive, it was so fun! I can see why it's so popular. Wouldn't do it again though, there's absolutely no way out and no gps/cell at all for *so much* of it. Got a few pics, I'll have to get them edited first though. Cheers
One man did survive.
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Yup, I've seen walls of water roar down a narrow canyon. Usually it starts as a flood a few inches deep but it builds very quickly into a flood many feet deep. But sometimes if there's a real narrow section it turns into an actual wall of water.
Seems the dangers there are extreme. Once you’ve set into it, the only option you have would be scaling the cliffs. Terrible situation
There is literally one way out of Buckskin over the entire length of the canyon, and it's very hard to spot. If you miss it, you're committed for the long haul.
Most people don't realize that it can be clear and sunny where you are, and rain miles away will cause a flash flood.
I remember as a teen being a passenger with my Dad driving us. It was a sunny late afternoon, driving through a hilly area with the highway in the valley. Suddenly, off to the right, we saw a small muddy, wall of water rushing down through a gully towards the road. We weren't in any danger TBH. It was narrow and contained, and there were no steep drop offs, or other water around to be washed into. As well, we were a driving past it, as the flood was running perpendicular to the road. It was a surprise to realize how a hazard you hadn't considered could affect you, simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Hello everyone, I hope you are all well. Please remember that in all my videos I list my sources, and credit photos or anything like that in the description.. One of the experts I read about while researching this case is David Rankin. I have several links to his Channel in the description. He's been studying these flash floods in and around this area for decades. I also want to say thank you again for all your support and comments🙏 This Channel is just as much yours as it is mine. Please always let me know any cases you'd like me to cover and I will cover it. Happy spring!
I hiked this coming in from wire pass. The water in buckskin was shockingly cold in May and I’m used to Lake Superior. We only made it about 1.5 miles and turned around. Water was deep and cold even though it hadn’t rained in a while. One of the few times I’ve bailed on a hike but you have to know when to quit.
What a loss 🥲🥲🥲
I remember this on the news..
I've hiked and camped in this canyon and it's spectacular. Very important to check the weather and take no chances.
I live in Utah, if you see clouds, feel sprinkles, or there is even a 1% chance of a flood....DONT GO
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I know that area quite well. The way I describe a flash flood is like this: If you can stand in a river below a damn holding that river back breaks open and you can still stand there then don't worry about a flash flood. The run off is gaining speed and crap as it rolls down through the valleys.
Stay motivated! 🤠👍
I am 78 and have hiked Buckskin 4 times. It is a terrible thing to get caught there but if you are careful and conservative you can do it and it is worth all the effort. I did it once with my 10 year old son without a problem
Take care of yourself when you are out there
Thank you Bryan. Good wishes for getting rid of Lyme. I did consult Dani Williamson FNP for mine.
The dangers of exploring the southern Utah canyon country are not to be underestimated. It’s easy to get lost or trapped, and escape routes are often distant and treacherous. I nearly became a statistic myself while hiking alone in Canyonlands years ago. I learned some hard lessons that day.
Prayers for the bereaved loved ones. Thk you Bryan for the excellent job you do in bringing these events to our attention! Hope you are doing well!
Hello. Great video!
I live in SW Oregon. Retired Forest Ranger. I hope you can do a story of missing people in the Crater Lake, Oregon, area.
Thank you for your feedback and kind words🙏🤗
I’m surprised the trail hasn’t been shut down until after the spring melt.
These are from slow rising melt in the streams and when hiking downstream it takes a while to.rise, by the time you notice it, it is too late to leave. We did this hike in February and we noticed the water rising and left in a hurry. There was a foot of snow when we started the hike.
We went to Paria Contact Station(pretty much a must thing to do for the best info on the gulches here), which is in the area, within a day or 2 of the time we hiked. We checked weather reports for a couple weeks before going as well. Rain can affect the canyon from 40 or so miles away. What seems locally safe weather-wise, can be very unsafe due to rain or snow melt regionally. Even after all the homework we did I was still nervous. It is an awesome gulch to explore and we only went in a couple miles!
Any network available underway in these canyons?
@@OmmerSyssel Might want to download the games first.
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