first time watching one of your videos, and five seconds into the first to-camera bit I thought, hang on a minute, we're dealing with professionals here! had a read of your story, and of course, the penny dropped. Huge thank you for making these videos and sharing with us your subtle humour, vast experience, delightful outlook, and valuable insight.
Great to see someone else working on a Hans Christian besides me! FYI Zinc isn't great to breathe, so mask up next time you cut or grind is my advice to keep yourself healthy...
👍 your zincs are working fine. The propeller zinc looks fair for touching dissimilar (Brass & S.S.) metals. As for the grounding plate, just install a larger one. Not at all bad for all your electronics!
I can also recommend the Gator Rope Cutter. Mine ate through a fishing boat mooring line in Algeria that would have been even more embarrassing if we had got stuck out in the harbour. So much peace of mind!
Interesting video, it reminded me of the good times dedicated to the spring work (in Tuscany ...) of dry docking. A good high-pressure cleaner with experienced staff means half the job! The most impressive thing is the marina you have chosen in Turkey: in 40 years of pleasure craft throughout Europe, I have never encountered anything like it. The duplex apartment is fabulous and very interesting for the period of the works on board. When we were 30 my wife and I didn't even think about it but now we would love it. We would not be forced into a hotel that is often inconvenient to reach. Congratulations to the marina and to you for choosing. Well done, as always! Cordially
I've used that abrasive screen in my wood working shop for a couple years . It's a lot better then sand paper or sanding disks ,it's self cleaning and last a lot longer then sand paper. It comes in a lot of different grits and I use it when I'm sanding items on my wood lathe and it does a wonderful job . I've watched quite a few different channals of people working on thier hulls and I can't believe more people aren't using this product. It can be used with a hand operated sand paper holder ,but I've used it on my orbital sander and it not only out performs sand paper with the rate it removes material but it is self cleans and last a lot longer then sanding disks or sand paper.
Great to see a yard tiering the slings together , Seen a couple of unpleasant instances with the front sling zipping up & BANG . Shes looking a picture going back in . I stopped the paint peeling around the hull fittings by adding a circle of Innertube as well as the sealant , Innertube against the hull , Seemed to work - Be looking for a race now Ha .
I put Hempel Silic One on my Jeanneau SO 29.2 3 years ago (as a test boat for the product in the Exe Estuary Devon). I cleaned off with a sponge 1 1/2 years ago and had it ashore in November for a full inspection and repaired a few patches which did not take properly on application, (I applied it myself and as the process is Temperature, time and Moisture sensitive - not easy to control in the UK in early Spring - there were a few patches that needed recoating). Steve mentioned 9 knots to keep the cleaning effect active but as you might guess my boat seldom sees more than 5-6 knots so I would highly endorse this as an environmentally friendly and low maintenance option. An added bonus is that the slippery surface does allow the boat to go a little quicker and/or save fuel.
Love your video’s, you guys are the best out there. Great mix of work and play, so much helpful and thorough information. I always get so frustrated with tech videos, they can often be lengthy and boring with just one helpful tip that you need to sit through so much to get. Your videos are easy and great to watch and packed with great stuff, I have unreasonably high expectations I know lol but I am never disappointing and marvel every time at how well you guys do this. Hunter 40.5
Another brilliant video Steve and Judy 👌 I never thought that you could improve on Fairisles looks she is a beautiful boat. But you both have improved on her looks with her brand new dress on ready for the ball. And she's kept looking like she did when she came out of the factory. Absolutely beautiful. 👌👌👌👌👌💖
That's a very much average Turkish breakfast. If you do it properly it's at least a half day activity. Looking nice on re-entry into the water. It's a fab old bus. I hope you enjoy it to the full. You will at some point hit Bozburun, Osman's restaurant is awesome. Give it a go. Hope you enjoy your stay here.
you can use a soda blast to strip the old antifouling, bit like sand blasting but the soda dissolves in water and can be washed away. they use baking soda I believe we do this in new zealand. Prop speed is a great product for the props epoxy based and seems to outlast any antifoul we have used to date !
Cheers for the great video Judy and Steve. Your haulout information is so very helpful. We have recently purchased a new yacht and are getting ready to sail the Med. I know we will put this marina on the list for future haulouts. (We are in 💲Palma, Majorca) but looking forward to sailing further afield. Thank you for all the amazing information and sailing destinations 🗺
Very well done slicing that anode in those conditions, much better job than grinding it all back and brilliant work all round on the hull ..so good to see both of you getting stuck in.
Oh, you got lucky on several points there. Amazed to see how big the boat looked when out of water! And it seems you had great weather, walking around in T-shirts, while we were freezing our bottoms off here in Northern Europe. Well, not for long - we are traveling to Montenegro mid February.
@@svfairisle Well, the winters in Montenegro are usually wet and can be cold in January. But not below 0C. A couple of years ago we held a New years party in Kotor at 18C - but you can't really count on that. If I had the choice I would go somewhere warm - perhaps eastern Med. Don't know how the weather is in Israel and if it is possible?
I have o small 21 foot boat with a blue hull that I bought last year and the color was blue grayish, the green greyish on Fair Isle. I got a tip from a couple of old salts that said the procedure I used with wet and dry 2000 and was of no use as the grey was coming from the inside and they recommended Vaseline - and my God we used applied and let dry over night and the hull was gleaming! This was in April -21. Now it's on the hard and the hull is still very close to perfectly blue. A one liter of liquid Vaseline cost me less than £3.0, which last several years on this small boat. No machining or hard work. Smear it on with a rag and wipe off the next day. And the gelcoat is protected for a season. Several people asking me how the color is kept so well and revealed the secret remedy. No more overprized polishing for me.
I know that, e.g., in some Beneteaus owner manuals, it's not recommended a pressure wash higher than 150 bars, but in your case, Fair Isle had no issues with that, so it may depend on how well the hull is built. Cesme Marina is really professional with a nice and friendly staff. Their pricing is competitive, and after this episode, this is the marina I would choose for a haul out. Cheers.
youtube channel sailing uma used a environmental antifouling and bottom paint in Florida 2 years later they hauled out in england it still looked new .might ask them.
I'd want to get information from sailors in similar waters. Very different situation up where they are. Just look at Tapio in the last GGR, he had antifouling meant for the Baltic (forgot to change it) on his boat and came back with a couple of barrow loads of muscles on his boat at the end of the race.
@@svfairisle I know they spent a year in the Caribbean and gulf of Mexico and a year in the north atlantic England and such they were stuck in england over visa issues so the spent a lot of time at the docks I did ask them when they hauled out I thought it had been a year and it looked fantastic . then they told me what it was (I forgot) but it was shocking. I'm interested in how it faired this last year in the extreme north atlantic and artic
Welcome to Turkey. I guess you will sail more east side Turkey during 2022. I am in Kemer Marina near Antalya and preparing to set the sail heading more east side end of the January. Next stop will be Kumkoy Marina for dry dock. Hope to meet somewhere in the east with you. Fair winds. Suat ZEYBEK SV. Gezgn UA-cam / Sailing SV Gezgn
Yea, those line cutters do work. That's a good investment saves you a dive In hostile waters when you don't need to feed an Orca killer whale. Or a hungry shark.
Good afternoon! Can you tell me what kind of yacht model it is, what year, and in what configuration? I know that Hans Christian was produced in 3 versions. Which one do you have? An amazing yacht!!!
They really didn’t stick to the three interior configurations they had for the 33 etc. The 48 was bespoke, Fair isle for instance has the fore-head cabin as an office. There is a boat tour on our YT channel and on the website www.sailingfairisle.com if you’re interested
Mmmm, don't put me off buying Lithium! My head hurts trying sort out charging and cutoffs, with a mixture of Victron and Mastervolt - they both want me to sell the house! China to the rescue? Will be very interested in that video. We last used Prop Guard silicone for the prop and was very disappointed, yours is holding up well. I'll check out the polish as well, looks really good. Great video.
Well done and she really looks beautiful (again). And a bit a bit of hard yakka never hurt anyone, despite what it feels like at the time..! Really looking forward to the water maker and LiFE battery install episodes... :-)
Good afternoon Judy and Steve, Thank you for the videos my wife and I have enjoyed watching them and they have inspired us to buy our own Hans Christians. If you don’t mind a quick question, the HC we are buying is going to require a fair amount of work, new teak decks and fiberglass work, electrical, any recommendation for a place between turkey and Croatia to have the work done? Thanks again.
Hi Christopher, Good choice! New teak deck is a big job, but you know that already! You're actually not the first person to ask about getting decks done in Turkey & I've got some feelers out now. Cesme doesn't specialise in that sort of work but I'm sure that further South there will be good places. I'll ask our Turkish friend in Bodrum, he knows most places. I would think Turkey would be much cheaper than Croatia. Which HC are you getting|?
Great Video. Thanks for sharing. My approach to antifouling is to keep the hull wet after the pressure wash by hosing it with water. Then I get underneath (with overalls googles and face mask) and hand sand the old antifoul with 80 grade wet and dry. Keeping the antifoul wet by continuous hosing is the key. That way it's soft and i can hand sand a 34 footer in about 1 hour. It's a really good workout to boot! It also gives me an opportunity to check the hull in detail as well as stopping antifoul build up. (Scott & Deirdre [My Friend Deirdre]). Hope to catch you in Greece in the summer.
Yes that's really what I do too, just with the silicone carbide screen, you can just dunk it in a bucket of water to clear it. I do the whole boat with 2 or three changes, thats why Ive still got a whole roll left after 4 lifts. It's also good as it clamps into the handle better than wet & dry tends to with it's holders.
Hi Steve and Judy. Just wondering if there is a gap required in your set up for the rope cutter to allow for thrust forward and reverse on the shaft? The Ambassador marine stripper advises a few mm or so. We would love to try the nano tech on Impavidus but it looks like you can't get it here in Turkey? Sail Safe Guys, Ant & Cid.
Arh yes very good point, might have known you'ld spot that one!! Yes ideally I would want a couple of mil gap at least to allow some movement. But from the marks on the shaft I dont think our moves at all & the Spurs we had on previously were clamped right up against the cutlass bearing actually having the whole body of the cutter filling the gap (we ended up with about 1mm) shouldn't cause a problem, the problem Ambassador and Gaytors are worried about I think is that it theres not enough gap between the striker plate and the static cutter, then if the thrust moves the shaft forward and obviously the cutter with it the static blade will get jammed hard into the striker plate which would put a twisting load on the ring with the static cutter. Thats the way I reasoned it in my head anyway, may be wrong!!!
Just seen a post on YT with you in hospital Ant is that right? Are you pointing out engineering problems from your hospital bed?? What with Baz and now you, Finike seems like a dangerous place to be! Or are you guys just getting your moneys worth out of the Turkish health insurance!? Anyhow, if it's real get well soon
Why do you not use coppercoat. I put it on my boat in Tenerife, and got a 7 year guarantee. Because it is a hard surface you can easily pressure wash wash it on the hard or dive with a sauspan scrubber. Expensive to put on but saves so much in the long term. Not only that but the activated copper would look good with your topsides!
The simple answer is our hull has always been really good after a wash down so I’ve not had the inclination to strip it right back when all I need to do is slap a couple of coats on. It really is the easiest bit of the lift every time. Obviously one day it will need stripping back and then I will consider Coppercoat, but I must say I’ve heard as many bad reports as good & at the moment I’m hearing good things about silicone coatings, but I am sceptical of them. We will see.
I'm not sure why you want the Turkish people to suffer because the have a terrible president at the moment. Turkey needs foreign visitors , if the UK relied on having them as much we would be pretty pissed of if no one came to the UK because Boris is such a dick!
Yes the water still gets there, its more a problem of movement of the shaft as Ant was saying, but I think we’re okay. The Spurs we had before bolted up against the cutlass bearing without problems anyway, but you’re right it’s a consideration
Interesting Steve. Glad it's working for you. But, as Peter indicated, I always thought the rule of thumb was the diameter of your shaft was the distance you wanted to protect for cutlass water flow. I really enjoy the videos! Thank you.
Gotta say, thanks to you I used the G Techniq last spring. I have a wide (about the same with that you did last year) blue stripe that has been failing within 5 minutes every year. WOW instant success and still looking great. I would love to use it on the whole hull (white) like you but the cost.. OMG. So how much costwise do you think its cost you to do ALL your hull this year?
Yes it's not something you would want to do if it didn't work! We made sure it would work first and luckily we got a good discount for doing the video. We actually had two 350ml bottles of Base and Top which is about £1,500 worth. If we were paying full price I would have gone for one 350ml and one 50m (maybe 2 with the top coat as it's thicker and doesn't go quite as far) and I that would have been enough. It was cheaper than a respray!
Agreed! Also for long distance sailors, it is easy to maintain by going overboard with a sauspan scrubber. Mine is in its 4 year, and has gone from Teneriffe to Tahitti, and still only needs touchups during anode inspections.
I’ve treated our topsides with Gtechniq which is a nano tech product, expensive but fantastic, it saved our chalky topside from have to be sprayed. I need some good polish for other parts though so will give it a try
Delighted by the maintenance aspects. Always something new to learn. As I wrote some time ago, I need to redo a teak deck next fall. If not too much trouble, could you suggest a contact person at that boatyard? I’d love to ask then for a quote. Safe trip to Kos but Chios would have been closer and more interesting island?
@@svfairisle thanks for some reason the Marina office insisted to direct me to an outfit called Pianura. Not the person you suggested. I need to contact the technician responsible fir the shipyard to understand if they are able and willing to quote for the job I’m after. Sorry for the trouble; ignore if unsure. Only answer if you’re able to offer a suggestion. Safe winds.
Interesting your comments on the high power wash. The use of a high pressure wash here, at least in Tasmania is the norm when one hauls out a boat. All marinas i have used have these, maybe this isn’t so common over in your part of the world. I also am wondering why you went for the Seajet silicon based prop release coating over Propspeed which again is what people out here normally apply to their props. I must check back and have a look at the nano tech polish you previously trialled as I know from first hand experience in using products like G3 and/or McGuires cutting compounds, polishes and waxes while they can achieve a good result they don’t necessarily seem to last.
We all have jet washes over here, but I've never seen one this powerful. Usually it has a flat jet profile and they have to have it a couple of inches away to get most stuff off. This produced a powerful cone jet that took everything off from over a foot away. I'm not sure washes we had had before would have coped with the hard growth we had. I have used Propspeed years ago and found it to be pretty useless to be honest. Velox performed very well, but as I said I couldn't find it. The Seajet was just what I could get hold of so no idea how it will do, we will see! Our gelcoat is just too far gone for polish now, it lasts about 2 months before everything goes chalky again. The Gtechniq lasted all year looking good & I hope will stay that way for a while. They claim it can last for 10 years, I'm not expecting that with my gelcoat. Really I think to get the best out of it you should use it when the gel-coat is in good nick to keep it that way. The tech has come from cars and I know the top end Ferraris etc. have it from new.
@@svfairisle I understand re what your saying regarding the jet wash and the differences. All i can note is that the ones we have here are highly effective and from well more than a foot away, even with significant growth. Regarding propspeed, once again all i can note is that i have found it to be highly effective in limiting growth including barnacles. Perhaps the conditions here in Tas are much different from over your way. Pretty much everyone here uses it. I hadn’t heard of Seajet before but good to know of it as a possible alternative. Yes, alas i know exactly what you mean about the gel coat going chalky. We have experienced exactly the same problem with the boat we race on. I will be interested in seeing how the Gtechiq lasts, let alone your experience with the Seajet product. It’s always good to learn from other person’s experiences with different products.
Amazing what that pressure was was able to do! Looked like new until we see it ready to splash 🤩 I absolutely have to visit one of those Turkish spa hotels. Great video, the editing nerd in me just loves your intro and transitions.
Such a ghetto you’re staying in. Capt. Ron would never. 🤣 The mesh sanding screen is also used for smoothing plaster. Very effective but one has to dial back the technique because it can quickly remove more than the nubs.
Great video. As a boat owner, I always enjoy your technical videos and product reviews (I bought a TrueKit dinghy because of your review). I'm curious, what are your thoughts on Copper Coat instead of using regular bottom paint?
Mixed thoughts to be honest. I've known so may people who swear by it and an equal amount of people that it's cause horrendous problems too. I wish I could pin it down and think the guys it didn't work for did something wrong, but I don't think thats true. My thought is at the end of the day if I can have an anti foul that stays good for 2 years then I'm happy because there's other things I want to do after 2 years anyway so the boat will probably be coming out. If we end up staying a long time somewhere very remote in the future then I might think again and try to get all the below the water line maintenance periods longer, but that probably wont mean going to coppercoat, I think the silicone systems will come on strong, at least I hope so.
@@svfairisle , Thanks for the thoughts. I purchased my boat (Southern Cross 35) in June 2021 from a British guy in upstate New York and he had used Copper Coat since 2013. Just before I bought the boat, he rolled several fresh coats on and left the sanding (burnishing) to me. I must admit, that was a bit of a workout...it was hard as nails and you really needed to apply some pressure to burnish the surface properly and expose the copper. I put my boat in the water (Southwest FL) in July 2021 and so far, so good. Other than a little bit of green slime (which wiped off easily with a Scotch Brite in December 2021), the Copper Coat has managed to keep everything else off the bottom. I'll be curious to see how it works over the long term; however, I'm pleased so far. I will admit, I was nuts about using 320 grits paper and sanding the bottom as smooth/uniform as I could manage.....it took a week. Everything I read, smooth application/sanding seems to be the key to getting the best Copper Coat results.
I am not a fan of that line cutter design as it’s constantly creating friction. I found and have been using the combination prop shaft anode and cutter. Mine are Salca from Sea Shield Marine. They work fantastic with no friction. Plus the cutters are full stainless steeel.
There's no friction with the design, they run on Delrin bushes and can be turned with no effort with your little finger so would have zero effect on the drive train. They are also all 316 SS & don't require their own anodes.
I’ll agree to disagree... respectfully of course. Since the cutter it constantly passing by the other cutter, I can’t see how there is no constant friction. But all that really matters is that you’re happy with it. I enjoy your videos and stories btw.
Yes the anode will sacrifice itself for any metal that it's physically connected too. So the main anode that you see quite depleted is tied in to sea-cocks etc with wires inside the boat. I explain it a bit here... ua-cam.com/video/q7W8UwvO548/v-deo.html
We looked at silica1 but I understand that once you have used silica1 going back to anything else is a problem as it wont stick and its really difficult to completely remove it
Have you thought about the insurance implications when installing Lithium batteries? One insurer I know is not underwriting until further testing is done
It in the description, and you’ll set there’s a note there about getting 10% off as well, the owner of the company contacted me today and offered it :)
Very much enjoyed your video, have visited your website. Two small suggestions, I wish you had a page on your website about your boat. You have a fabulous yacht and there's no specs or any information about the yacht, hate to say it but the yacht is more important than you. Ha ha. Also you ought to have a contact page on your website rather than having to post a comment here which you may or may not even read? I wish you good luck with your adventures, I will be following you.
We always read and reply to our comments, it’s the least we can do for your support. But there is also an email address on the website, it’s at the bottom of every page so it should be easy to contact us from anywhere
@@svfairisle Sorry I must have missed that at the bottom of the page. I do hope you put up a page on your website that describes your yacht, she seems an absolutely fabulous vessel. I have always loved the Hans Christian yachts, there is another brand called Lord Nelson which is very very similar I wonder if you have heard of them? I believe both were made in Taiwan?
Wellcome to my hometown ❤️
I hope you will be happy in here
That moment at 23:15 when she was going back into the water looking all shiney and new was very rewarding, even sitting here at home 👏 Bravo
Lived in Turkey 3 years. Wonderful people. Most of the boating was around Izmir.
first time watching one of your videos, and five seconds into the first to-camera bit I thought, hang on a minute, we're dealing with professionals here!
had a read of your story, and of course, the penny dropped.
Huge thank you for making these videos and sharing with us your subtle humour, vast experience, delightful outlook, and valuable insight.
Great to see someone else working on a Hans Christian besides me!
FYI Zinc isn't great to breathe, so mask up next time you cut or grind is my advice to keep yourself healthy...
👍 your zincs are working fine. The propeller zinc looks fair for touching dissimilar (Brass & S.S.) metals. As for the grounding plate, just install a larger one. Not at all bad for all your electronics!
Boat looks great. Judy looks even better.
A great video and how well you explained my country, I'm so glad you enjoyed it, may your winds always be safe ⛵️🧿
I can also recommend the Gator Rope Cutter. Mine ate through a fishing boat mooring line in Algeria that would have been even more embarrassing if we had got stuck out in the harbour. So much peace of mind!
Your classic style is wonderful to see.
Interesting video, it reminded me of the good times dedicated to the spring work (in Tuscany ...) of dry docking. A good high-pressure cleaner with experienced staff means half the job! The most impressive thing is the marina you have chosen in Turkey: in 40 years of pleasure craft throughout Europe, I have never encountered anything like it. The duplex apartment is fabulous and very interesting for the period of the works on board. When we were 30 my wife and I didn't even think about it but now we would love it. We would not be forced into a hotel that is often inconvenient to reach. Congratulations to the marina and to you for choosing. Well done, as always! Cordially
If you fancy a visit I now have the email marina@cesmemarina.com.tr
@@svfairisle Thank you very much but this year we will sail again between Sardinia and Spain. Who knows in the future ...?
I've used that abrasive screen in my wood working shop for a couple years . It's a lot better then sand paper or sanding disks ,it's self cleaning and last a lot longer then sand paper. It comes in a lot of different grits and I use it when I'm sanding items on my wood lathe and it does a wonderful job . I've watched quite a few different channals of people working on thier hulls and I can't believe more people aren't using this product. It can be used with a hand operated sand paper holder ,but I've used it on my orbital sander and it not only out performs sand paper with the rate it removes material but it is self cleans and last a lot longer then sanding disks or sand paper.
Great to see a yard tiering the slings together , Seen a couple of unpleasant instances with the front sling zipping up & BANG . Shes looking a picture going back in . I stopped the paint peeling around the hull fittings by adding a circle of Innertube as well as the sealant , Innertube against the hull , Seemed to work - Be looking for a race now Ha .
You guys make everything look easy. You're calm, laughinging, and obviously very happy! More power to ya! SV looks great! Nice job!
Such a wonderful sailing channel. Work ,sailing and day today day life.
I put Hempel Silic One on my Jeanneau SO 29.2 3 years ago (as a test boat for the product in the Exe Estuary Devon). I cleaned off with a sponge 1 1/2 years ago and had it ashore in November for a full inspection and repaired a few patches which did not take properly on application, (I applied it myself and as the process is Temperature, time and Moisture sensitive - not easy to control in the UK in early Spring - there were a few patches that needed recoating). Steve mentioned 9 knots to keep the cleaning effect active but as you might guess my boat seldom sees more than 5-6 knots so I would highly endorse this as an environmentally friendly and low maintenance option. An added bonus is that the slippery surface does allow the boat to go a little quicker and/or save fuel.
Love your video’s, you guys are the best out there. Great mix of work and play, so much helpful and thorough information. I always get so frustrated with tech videos, they can often be lengthy and boring with just one helpful tip that you need to sit through so much to get. Your videos are easy and great to watch and packed with great stuff, I have unreasonably high expectations I know lol but I am never disappointing and marvel every time at how well you guys do this. Hunter 40.5
Nice boat.. having this one like living in paradise.
We too have had the whole lot, gale force winds with white horses in the marina and beautiful bright sunshine like today.
We cant complain too much, it's certainly a better experience working in Turkey in January than it was in the UK!
Another brilliant video Steve and Judy 👌
I never thought that you could improve on Fairisles looks she is a beautiful boat.
But you both have improved on her looks with her brand new dress on ready for the ball.
And she's kept looking like she did when she came out of the factory.
Absolutely beautiful. 👌👌👌👌👌💖
That's a very much average Turkish breakfast. If you do it properly it's at least a half day activity. Looking nice on re-entry into the water. It's a fab old bus. I hope you enjoy it to the full. You will at some point hit Bozburun, Osman's restaurant is awesome. Give it a go. Hope you enjoy your stay here.
Thanks for the tip, I’ve heard of Osmans elsewhere, will be sure to try it
@@svfairisle Say Hi to all from Dave in Antalya. ;)
She’s such a beautiful boat! Nice job.
As we all know, happiness is a clean bottom! Can`t believe the value you are getting in the eastern Med , guys.
Fair winds xx
Wow what a place to lift out. Apartment is the icing on the cake. Enjoy!
Great job and she looked AWESOME!!
Hi Judy and Steve. Fair Isle is looking beautiful. Best wishes for 2022 and hopefully the end of covid restrictions. Cheers, Dan ✌️⛵️🇨🇦
Hey guys, I must say Fair Isle looks gorgeous after you painted and polished her!!!! WTG!!!! Love your videos although I don't say much.
Thanks Owen, appreciate it
you can use a soda blast to strip the old antifouling, bit like sand blasting but the soda dissolves in water and can be washed away. they use baking soda I believe we do this in new zealand. Prop speed is a great product for the props epoxy based and seems to outlast any antifoul we have used to date !
Full keel, I love it.
That's quite a nice marina.
Cheers for the great video Judy and Steve. Your haulout information is so very helpful. We have recently purchased a new yacht and are getting ready to sail the Med. I know we will put this marina on the list for future haulouts. (We are in 💲Palma, Majorca) but looking forward to sailing further afield. Thank you for all the amazing information and sailing destinations 🗺
Boat work in style with such nice accommodation!
That’s definitely the best way to manage a haul out away from home! Amazed those anodes lasted so long 😊
What a beautiful boat , living the dream 👍👍
The boat looks beautiful
Great job! She looks new again!
The marina really looks spiffy and the Hotel couldn't be better from what I could see!
Very well done slicing that anode in those conditions, much better job than grinding it all back and brilliant work all round on the hull ..so good to see both of you getting stuck in.
Oh, you got lucky on several points there. Amazed to see how big the boat looked when out of water!
And it seems you had great weather, walking around in T-shirts, while we were freezing our bottoms off here in Northern Europe. Well, not for long - we are traveling to Montenegro mid February.
The weathers up and dow here to be honest. What's winter like in Montenegro, we were discussing the possibility of maybe stopping there next winter.
@@svfairisle Well, the winters in Montenegro are usually wet and can be cold in January. But not below 0C. A couple of years ago we held a New years party in Kotor at 18C - but you can't really count on that.
If I had the choice I would go somewhere warm - perhaps eastern Med. Don't know how the weather is in Israel and if it is possible?
Beautiful marina and boat yard facility.
I have o small 21 foot boat with a blue hull that I bought last year and the color was blue grayish, the green greyish on Fair Isle. I got a tip from a couple of old salts that said the procedure I used with wet and dry 2000 and was of no use as the grey was coming from the inside and they recommended Vaseline - and my God we used applied and let dry over night and the hull was gleaming! This was in April -21. Now it's on the hard and the hull is still very close to perfectly blue. A one liter of liquid Vaseline cost me less than £3.0, which last several years on this small boat. No machining or hard work. Smear it on with a rag and wipe off the next day. And the gelcoat is protected for a season.
Several people asking me how the color is kept so well and revealed the secret remedy. No more overprized polishing for me.
Sounds good!
Beautiful, well done, you must be pleased.
I know that, e.g., in some Beneteaus owner manuals, it's not recommended a pressure wash higher than 150 bars, but in your case, Fair Isle had no issues with that, so it may depend on how well the hull is built. Cesme Marina is really professional with a nice and friendly staff. Their pricing is competitive, and after this episode, this is the marina I would choose for a haul out. Cheers.
Yes they have a smaller pressure wash for more fragile boats!
Now I have this contact I shall give it to you. marina@cesmemarina.com.tr
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youtube channel sailing uma used a environmental antifouling and bottom paint in Florida 2 years later they hauled out in england it still looked new .might ask them.
I'd want to get information from sailors in similar waters. Very different situation up where they are. Just look at Tapio in the last GGR, he had antifouling meant for the Baltic (forgot to change it) on his boat and came back with a couple of barrow loads of muscles on his boat at the end of the race.
@@svfairisle I know they spent a year in the Caribbean and gulf of Mexico and a year in the north atlantic England and such they were stuck in england over visa issues so the spent a lot of time at the docks I did ask them when they hauled out I thought it had been a year and it looked fantastic . then they told me what it was (I forgot) but it was shocking. I'm interested in how it faired this last year in the extreme north atlantic and artic
Nice job! It appears that we are all out of the water doing bottom jobs ;)
Yes we’ve been watching Bums as well
Welcome to Turkey. I guess you will sail more east side Turkey during 2022. I am in Kemer Marina near Antalya and preparing to set the sail heading more east side end of the January. Next stop will be Kumkoy Marina for dry dock. Hope to meet somewhere in the east with you.
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Yes we are looking forward to heading South and East from here, hope to see you in an anchorage somewhere
Yea, those line cutters do work. That's a good investment saves you a dive In hostile waters when you don't need to feed an Orca killer whale. Or a hungry shark.
good stuff
Good afternoon! Can you tell me what kind of yacht model it is, what year, and in what configuration? I know that Hans Christian was produced in 3 versions. Which one do you have? An amazing yacht!!!
They really didn’t stick to the three interior configurations they had for the 33 etc. The 48 was bespoke, Fair isle for instance has the fore-head cabin as an office. There is a boat tour on our YT channel and on the website www.sailingfairisle.com if you’re interested
@@svfairisle Спасибо огромное!!! Thank you very much!
Great segment! Thanks for sharing.
I figured out how to make a waterproof drop in LiFePO4 battery. We use it to power our dinghy outboard 😉
Inside of it is a sea of wiring though.
Yes I saw, scary looking! But good job
Great job. 👍
WOW, I think I am doing my next haul out there
Your Boats lovely But that guests room in the marina wow
I use Seajet Shogun on the Thames (brackish) and the East coast, it’s great stuff.
Impressive video; great work.
Mmmm, don't put me off buying Lithium! My head hurts trying sort out charging and cutoffs, with a mixture of Victron and Mastervolt - they both want me to sell the house! China to the rescue? Will be very interested in that video. We last used Prop Guard silicone for the prop and was very disappointed, yours is holding up well. I'll check out the polish as well, looks really good. Great video.
Yes the Gtechniq stuff is great, sadly although they dont quite want your house, you might loose your shed! Boats ehh!
Well done and she really looks beautiful (again). And a bit a bit of hard yakka never hurt anyone, despite what it feels like at the time..! Really looking forward to the water maker and LiFE battery install episodes... :-)
got some sintered bronze sheet if you need any. 3 mm thick x 30 microns
Thanks guys - that was great learnt lots... need one of those rope cutters - great ideas for anitfoul and also to polish her up.
Good afternoon Judy and Steve, Thank you for the videos my wife and I have enjoyed watching them and they have inspired us to buy our own Hans Christians. If you don’t mind a quick question, the HC we are buying is going to require a fair amount of work, new teak decks and fiberglass work, electrical, any recommendation for a place between turkey and Croatia to have the work done? Thanks again.
Hi Christopher, Good choice! New teak deck is a big job, but you know that already! You're actually not the first person to ask about getting decks done in Turkey & I've got some feelers out now. Cesme doesn't specialise in that sort of work but I'm sure that further South there will be good places. I'll ask our Turkish friend in Bodrum, he knows most places. I would think Turkey would be much cheaper than Croatia. Which HC are you getting|?
Enjoy it. You will never see a marina of that quality in the UK
Great Video. Thanks for sharing.
My approach to antifouling is to keep the hull wet after the pressure wash by hosing it with water. Then I get underneath (with overalls googles and face mask) and hand sand the old antifoul with 80 grade wet and dry. Keeping the antifoul wet by continuous hosing is the key. That way it's soft and i can hand sand a 34 footer in about 1 hour. It's a really good workout to boot! It also gives me an opportunity to check the hull in detail as well as stopping antifoul build up. (Scott & Deirdre [My Friend Deirdre]). Hope to catch you in Greece in the summer.
Yes that's really what I do too, just with the silicone carbide screen, you can just dunk it in a bucket of water to clear it. I do the whole boat with 2 or three changes, thats why Ive still got a whole roll left after 4 lifts. It's also good as it clamps into the handle better than wet & dry tends to with it's holders.
Hi Steve and Judy. Just wondering if there is a gap required in your set up for the rope cutter to allow for thrust forward and reverse on the shaft? The Ambassador marine stripper advises a few mm or so. We would love to try the nano tech on Impavidus but it looks like you can't get it here in Turkey? Sail Safe Guys, Ant & Cid.
Arh yes very good point, might have known you'ld spot that one!! Yes ideally I would want a couple of mil gap at least to allow some movement. But from the marks on the shaft I dont think our moves at all & the Spurs we had on previously were clamped right up against the cutlass bearing actually having the whole body of the cutter filling the gap (we ended up with about 1mm) shouldn't cause a problem, the problem Ambassador and Gaytors are worried about I think is that it theres not enough gap between the striker plate and the static cutter, then if the thrust moves the shaft forward and obviously the cutter with it the static blade will get jammed hard into the striker plate which would put a twisting load on the ring with the static cutter. Thats the way I reasoned it in my head anyway, may be wrong!!!
Just seen a post on YT with you in hospital Ant is that right? Are you pointing out engineering problems from your hospital bed?? What with Baz and now you, Finike seems like a dangerous place to be! Or are you guys just getting your moneys worth out of the Turkish health insurance!? Anyhow, if it's real get well soon
Why do you not use coppercoat. I put it on my boat in Tenerife, and got a 7 year guarantee. Because it is a hard surface you can easily pressure wash wash it on the hard or dive with a sauspan scrubber. Expensive to put on but saves so much in the long term.
Not only that but the activated copper would look good with your topsides!
The simple answer is our hull has always been really good after a wash down so I’ve not had the inclination to strip it right back when all I need to do is slap a couple of coats on. It really is the easiest bit of the lift every time. Obviously one day it will need stripping back and then I will consider Coppercoat, but I must say I’ve heard as many bad reports as good & at the moment I’m hearing good things about silicone coatings, but I am sceptical of them. We will see.
We call that white stringy growth shredded wheat. She did look sleek going back in. Well done.
It does look like shredded wheat but not as painful to get off as I feared!
What a great marina ,how much was the haul out and is the apt extra or included?
for our size boat it is about £500 but best check with Cesme marina
@@judyaslett2 thanks !! Great video as always 👍
@@Outrageousconduct marina@cesmemarina.com.tr.
I don’t know who enjoyed the Turkish bath more you or your husband Ha Ha Ha! I’ve been married for 35 years it was a husband joke. Lol!
Great video. Is there much of a liveaboard community in that maria?
No just us! The marinas further South have big live-aboard communities.
@@svfairisle Shame, it looks lovely there but after 2+ years of Covid I'd like more than just Bruce for company😉
Nice video
Good Morning
Wichkind of paint do you use for the propeller?
I show it in the video, it’s called Pellerclean No idea if it’s any good, I usually use Velox which is excellent but couldn’t get any this time
turkey is on my no go list until aerdoon is gone
I'm not sure why you want the Turkish people to suffer because the have a terrible president at the moment. Turkey needs foreign visitors , if the UK relied on having them as much we would be pretty pissed of if no one came to the UK because Boris is such a dick!
@@svfairisle hes beyond terrible . the 0eople of turkey will suffer until he's gone
Have you left enough space for water to lubricate the cutlass bearing?
Yes the water still gets there, its more a problem of movement of the shaft as Ant was saying, but I think we’re okay. The Spurs we had before bolted up against the cutlass bearing without problems anyway, but you’re right it’s a consideration
Interesting Steve. Glad it's working for you. But, as Peter indicated, I always thought the rule of thumb was the diameter of your shaft was the distance you wanted to protect for cutlass water flow. I really enjoy the videos! Thank you.
looks good
Gotta say, thanks to you I used the G Techniq last spring. I have a wide (about the same with that you did last year) blue stripe that has been failing within 5 minutes every year. WOW instant success and still looking great. I would love to use it on the whole hull (white) like you but the cost.. OMG. So how much costwise do you think its cost you to do ALL your hull this year?
Oh and I was gutted to have missed you by a few days last year in Corfu
Yes it's not something you would want to do if it didn't work! We made sure it would work first and luckily we got a good discount for doing the video. We actually had two 350ml bottles of Base and Top which is about £1,500 worth. If we were paying full price I would have gone for one 350ml and one 50m (maybe 2 with the top coat as it's thicker and doesn't go quite as far) and I that would have been enough. It was cheaper than a respray!
I would recommend to use coppercoat for your boats bottom. It is less poisonous..
Agreed! Also for long distance sailors, it is easy to maintain by going overboard with a sauspan scrubber. Mine is in its 4 year, and has gone from Teneriffe to Tahitti, and still only needs touchups during anode inspections.
Hi have you tried 303 marine cleaning products and polish
No, are they good?
@@svfairisle yes polish has grapheme in it 12 months protection on hull looks fantastic
I’ve treated our topsides with Gtechniq which is a nano tech product, expensive but fantastic, it saved our chalky topside from have to be sprayed. I need some good polish for other parts though so will give it a try
Delighted by the maintenance aspects. Always something new to learn. As I wrote some time ago, I need to redo a teak deck next fall. If not too much trouble, could you suggest a contact person at that boatyard? I’d love to ask then for a quote. Safe trip to Kos but Chios would have been closer and more interesting island?
Contact Bora at marina@cesmemarina.com.tr. He is your man! Knows everything
@@svfairisle thanks for some reason the Marina office insisted to direct me to an outfit called Pianura. Not the person you suggested. I need to contact the technician responsible fir the shipyard to understand if they are able and willing to quote for the job I’m after. Sorry for the trouble; ignore if unsure. Only answer if you’re able to offer a suggestion. Safe winds.
Interesting your comments on the high power wash. The use of a high pressure wash here, at least in Tasmania is the norm when one hauls out a boat. All marinas i have used have these, maybe this isn’t so common over in your part of the world.
I also am wondering why you went for the Seajet silicon based prop release coating over Propspeed which again is what people out here normally apply to their props. I must check back and have a look at the nano tech polish you previously trialled as I know from
first hand experience in using products like G3 and/or McGuires cutting compounds, polishes and waxes while they can achieve a good result they don’t necessarily seem to last.
We all have jet washes over here, but I've never seen one this powerful. Usually it has a flat jet profile and they have to have it a couple of inches away to get most stuff off. This produced a powerful cone jet that took everything off from over a foot away. I'm not sure washes we had had before would have coped with the hard growth we had.
I have used Propspeed years ago and found it to be pretty useless to be honest. Velox performed very well, but as I said I couldn't find it. The Seajet was just what I could get hold of so no idea how it will do, we will see!
Our gelcoat is just too far gone for polish now, it lasts about 2 months before everything goes chalky again. The Gtechniq lasted all year looking good & I hope will stay that way for a while. They claim it can last for 10 years, I'm not expecting that with my gelcoat. Really I think to get the best out of it you should use it when the gel-coat is in good nick to keep it that way. The tech has come from cars and I know the top end Ferraris etc. have it from new.
@@svfairisle I understand re what your saying regarding the jet wash and the differences. All i can note is that the ones we have here are highly effective and from well more than a foot away, even with significant growth. Regarding propspeed, once again all i can note is that i have found it to be highly effective in limiting growth including barnacles. Perhaps the conditions here in Tas are much different from over your way. Pretty much everyone here uses it. I hadn’t heard of Seajet before but good to know of it as a possible alternative. Yes, alas i know exactly what you mean about the gel coat going chalky. We have experienced exactly the same problem with the boat we race on. I will be interested in seeing how the Gtechiq lasts, let alone your experience with the Seajet product. It’s always good to learn from other person’s experiences with different products.
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Amazing what that pressure was was able to do! Looked like new until we see it ready to splash 🤩 I absolutely have to visit one of those Turkish spa hotels. Great video, the editing nerd in me just loves your intro and transitions.
Thanks guys. When you get to Cesme walk up the hill and turn left! The green smelly pool is right there. Love your videos keep them coming
Such a ghetto you’re staying in. Capt. Ron would never. 🤣 The mesh sanding screen is also used for smoothing plaster. Very effective but one has to dial back the technique because it can quickly remove more than the nubs.
Great video. As a boat owner, I always enjoy your technical videos and product reviews (I bought a TrueKit dinghy because of your review). I'm curious, what are your thoughts on Copper Coat instead of using regular bottom paint?
Mixed thoughts to be honest. I've known so may people who swear by it and an equal amount of people that it's cause horrendous problems too. I wish I could pin it down and think the guys it didn't work for did something wrong, but I don't think thats true. My thought is at the end of the day if I can have an anti foul that stays good for 2 years then I'm happy because there's other things I want to do after 2 years anyway so the boat will probably be coming out. If we end up staying a long time somewhere very remote in the future then I might think again and try to get all the below the water line maintenance periods longer, but that probably wont mean going to coppercoat, I think the silicone systems will come on strong, at least I hope so.
@@svfairisle , Thanks for the thoughts. I purchased my boat (Southern Cross 35) in June 2021 from a British guy in upstate New York and he had used Copper Coat since 2013. Just before I bought the boat, he rolled several fresh coats on and left the sanding (burnishing) to me. I must admit, that was a bit of a workout...it was hard as nails and you really needed to apply some pressure to burnish the surface properly and expose the copper. I put my boat in the water (Southwest FL) in July 2021 and so far, so good. Other than a little bit of green slime (which wiped off easily with a Scotch Brite in December 2021), the Copper Coat has managed to keep everything else off the bottom. I'll be curious to see how it works over the long term; however, I'm pleased so far. I will admit, I was nuts about using 320 grits paper and sanding the bottom as smooth/uniform as I could manage.....it took a week. Everything I read, smooth application/sanding seems to be the key to getting the best Copper Coat results.
which marina is that in turkey?😀
Cesme, it's in the Izmir region
@@svfairisle Oh yes, thanks.
I am not a fan of that line cutter design as it’s constantly creating friction. I found and have been using the combination prop shaft anode and cutter. Mine are Salca from Sea Shield Marine. They work fantastic with no friction. Plus the cutters are full stainless steeel.
There's no friction with the design, they run on Delrin bushes and can be turned with no effort with your little finger so would have zero effect on the drive train. They are also all 316 SS & don't require their own anodes.
I’ll agree to disagree... respectfully of course. Since the cutter it constantly passing by the other cutter, I can’t see how there is no constant friction. But all that really matters is that you’re happy with it. I enjoy your videos and stories btw.
Just about to put pellerclean on my boat - did you use it on the rope cutter ? I was thinking of using it on the shaft as well.
No I didn't use it on the rope cutter, I suppose you could?
Stupid question on my part: if your boat is grp (?), is the anode simply to protect the prop and screw?
Yes the anode will sacrifice itself for any metal that it's physically connected too. So the main anode that you see quite depleted is tied in to sea-cocks etc with wires inside the boat. I explain it a bit here... ua-cam.com/video/q7W8UwvO548/v-deo.html
We looked at silica1 but I understand that once you have used silica1 going back to anything else is a problem as it wont stick and its really difficult to completely remove it
Thats a good point
That's the way to do it! Loving your work-treat-work style :-)
Velox is not banned but supply chain problems still available but delays
Good to know, thanks
After the grading do you see how much you can get done with no talking
Have you thought about the insurance implications when installing Lithium batteries? One insurer I know is not underwriting until further testing is done
Our insurance is fine. I will obviously check that moving forward
I guess the best and cheapest place to do boat work might be Turkey ?
It's got to be up there, certainly for the Med.
I have got to redo my boot stripe this year, did you engage a professional or do it yourself ?
I bloody did it myself! Two days it took me. Nightmare
Can you send the link for the rope cutter you've used. Thanks.
It in the description, and you’ll set there’s a note there about getting 10% off as well, the owner of the company contacted me today and offered it :)
Can you stay in the marina without having a boat there? I love that place.
Yes you can! marina@cesmemarina.com.tr. If the weather is nice you get breakfast by the pool.
buttem protection try coppercoat
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Интересно, жаль нет перевода!
Very much enjoyed your video, have visited your website. Two small suggestions, I wish you had a page on your website about your boat. You have a fabulous yacht and there's no specs or any information about the yacht, hate to say it but the yacht is more important than you. Ha ha. Also you ought to have a contact page on your website rather than having to post a comment here which you may or may not even read? I wish you good luck with your adventures, I will be following you.
We always read and reply to our comments, it’s the least we can do for your support. But there is also an email address on the website, it’s at the bottom of every page so it should be easy to contact us from anywhere
@@svfairisle Sorry I must have missed that at the bottom of the page. I do hope you put up a page on your website that describes your yacht, she seems an absolutely fabulous vessel. I have always loved the Hans Christian yachts, there is another brand called Lord Nelson which is very very similar I wonder if you have heard of them? I believe both were made in Taiwan?