Police Omit Naming Who Called 911 After Idaho College Murders
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Police are still looking for the killer, murder weapon and motive in the deaths of the four Moscow, Idaho, college students and are remaining tight-lipped over why they can’t share who called 911 around eight hours after the murders. NBC’s Gadi Schwartz reports for Saturday TODAY.
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For everyone commenting about the roommates - I can easily see the two surviving young women roommates being innocent. They could have locked their bedroom doors and gone to sleep, and not heard anything. The fact that they woke up around noon is not unusual for college students either.
I also read somewhere that the 2 surviving roommates had a room in the basement (not sure if accurate). They could have easily slept through their friends getting killed; especially if they were killed while sleeping. I'm thinking the killer may not have realized there were other people sleeping downstairs in the basement area----thank God. I also think the roommates slept in---not unusual for kids in their late teens/20's. Also, even if the roommates had gotten up, they may have simply assumed their roommates were sleeping in and didn't think anything of it.
Of coarse. If none of the victims awoke how could they?
Or they could’ve come home in the afternoon and come upon the bodies
Could be anything, it was an open party house of drunks .. could be drifter, a drug dealer, disgruntled ex, someone at the bar turned down, psycho stalker, and on and on
@@richardlacey4923it’s creepy that you’ve triggered yourseIf to the point where you’ve repeatedly posted the same comment filled with disinformation. Did you repeatedly get turned down by beautiful girls as a kid and this is jogging those memories? Lol.
The 911 caller has still not been cleared, Im guessing
The 911 call was made by a friend of Ethan's who had made previous plans to meet Ethan at his girlfriend's apt. on Sunday, 11/13.
@@shh5627 source ?
ohhhhhhh that makes sense ok
Also, it makes sense that they wouldn't release the identity of the person who called 911 for their own safety.
@@shh5627 and how do you know this? Because the police are not saying who made the call.
This is where the value of even a small dog can help. Any dog upon entering the home would know by scent that something was wrong. My neighbor had exactly that happen in their older, large home after they spent the day away. Once they came home, their dog kept sniffing the air and low growling. The husband recognized the danger and said to his wife in a coded voice, "we forgot to drop off the package to them". Both slowly but steadily exited the home. Once out, they called the police who were at first skeptical about an intruder based on their dog but to be safe, ran a police dog through the home. On the upper floor, two intruders were discovered hiding in a storage room. Both had firearms. Both were arrested and the police dog made another more thorough sweep throughout the house.
Wao they were very very lucky to realize it.
Yes growing up I had dogs German Shepard. Never no problems . My kids home were safe.
Kaylee had a dog there. Was impounded by the police and sent to her family.
@@Queensheebahxo THAT IS A CLUE ...the animal was familiar with the killer as the dog would have woken them up had it been a stranger.
They had a dog and their house was a known party house. People came and went regularly. They often left their sliding door unlocked and allot of people had the security code. I think because of the community being safe and no homicides in almost a decade, they felt very comfortable, evidently. Because they had a guy living there and there were many of them who lived together, they didn't have their guard up. They took very lax security measures if any at all. I heard these details from a reliable source and I believe them to be true. The dog didn't bark because it's conditioned to a house full of strangers at all hours.
craziest part is you know whoever did it is more than likely watching all these updates
Oh you can be sure!
And that is probably the main reason the investigation is so mum. Tragic for the loved ones, indeed.
SCARY THOUGHT: I bet the killer is back at home with his family right now. Completely undetected. And I doubt anyone is going to think their kid did it. It's possible it was an adult, but I really don't think so. I'd be curious if there are any kids home on break who have any unusual cuts/bruises or seem extra on edge (of course I mean in a different way than I'm sure every student there is feeling right now. My heart goes out to all of them❤).
Also, I thought there was a weapon identified. A ka-bar / Rambo style 6 inch knife? Or maybe that was not confirmed yet
Technically all these “kids” would be adults if they’re in college.
I’m with you on this one. The killer would have wounds from, at least the one victim who fought him/her. Scratch marks, bruises, cuts. They may claim they were in a fight or accident. So many students went home, families must be observant of these things.
@@tmartinez1948 that is the second possibility in my opinion. Regardless I think that a college student and serial killer could be synonymous.
The families telling everyone to leave and go home was a bit counterproductive IMO. They told all the potential suspects to leave the area. Not too smart
When I was in junior high, a classmates was murdered. It turned out to be their neighbor! He had been obsessed with the mother and murdered her. My poor classmate walked in while it was happening and that's why she was killed. The brother was left sleeping and unharmed upstairs. I believe this was a crime of passion. I pray the truth will be revealed!
Highly unlikely that the person, or persons who murdered 4 innocent people will simply turn themselves in.
Wishful thinking tho
They'll never catch the killer. Police now don't know how to investigate. They'll simply wait for a dna hit hoping the attacker slipped or look for cell phone data. When the killer didn't bring a phone. They will never catch this killer until the killer wants to be caught.
We used to lock up the insane for life
funny how serial killers increased when we stopped doing that
we used to enforce immigration
Now we have millions in America with no fingerprints or DNA on file
God forbid we know who enters this country
Suspect entered a house with a security code lock
Left no fingerprints or DNA or they are not on file
Not even a charcoal sketch of a suspect even though they are looking for a POI
I have never understood why people make that plea. I feel they should be telling people who may know something to come forward but it's unlikely the killer will feel guilty and just turn him or herself in.
what is really creepy is that the killer could be at the vigil for those poor students… this case is horrible
Just as eerie is that he more than likely watched updates about the case on the news.
I believe it's whoever called 911. Why else are the police so secretive about that one detail?
The boyfriend of one of the surviving victims is the one who called 911 allegedly, I think it was him for some reason
Telling a psychopath to turn himself in lmao. He’s laughing at them rn.
Exactly, sorry to say but I laughed so hard when I heard the mother pleading that. It’s not a movie ma’am lol he’s not gonna come running to turn himself in wtf
Yeah life in prison or being a free man with a guilty conscience hmmmm?
Definitely someone they knew imo
All 4 of those girls look the same... that's weird in itself...
Agree. I can't tell who's who.
Yep, these girls come off a conveyor belt like this
All the blondes, in fact, do! I couldn't keep them apart at first.
Makes sense to me that the couple was targeted. Something overwhelming gruesome in the room telling LE this was not a spree killing. Girls not assaulted & 5 hours no one still knows what the couple were doing or who/where with.
Ethan was one of a group of triplets----how sad for his siblings. I'm sure it's like a part of them (sister and brother) has died.
Sorry to hear about the victims may they rest in peace 🕊️🕊️ and prayers 🙏🙏 to the family 🙏
This whole story keeps getting shadier. The 911 caller is highly suspect given they allegedly reported a "nonresponsive person" instead of actually saying a stabbed person given how a stabbed person is extremely noticeable. Not to mention the caller reported 1 nonresponsive instead of 4. There are too many holes in this story.
I was just thinking the same “Non responsive” the person who called to report it knew well not ONE, but all FOUR had bled out and gone. That scene was horrific! SUS is an understatement right now…
Well "non responsive" COULD mean the caller was not inside the house and hadn't seen the bodies. The 911 caller might have been outside the house trying to get in touch with them but getting "no response."
It's not shady. It's an active investigation. WE don't get all the details until a suspect is in custody.
@@bluecoffee8414 Exactly. Or even on the phone. Could have been an agreed upon phone call for safety, a check in after partying. Possibly a victim tried to call someone and was cut off by the killer and the phone friend got nervous and called 911.
@@bluecoffee8414 the front door was open when police arrived. why wouldnt the caller just go into their "friends" house?
👊 BE VIGILANT JUSTICE HAS TO COME 👊 R.I.P. 🙏
The family are heartbroken are they going to court when the killer is found
Okay wannabee detectives in comments - There are holes in the story for a reason. It is an ACTIVE INVESTIGATION.
Well Deb you tried, but speaking reason into an entire thread of unreasonable never gets anywhere. I do want to thank you for breaking the monotony of stupidity in this comment section by injecting some common sense though. It was very refreshing.💕
I love news clips made just to tell you that they won’t tell you something 😮
Too much time is passing. Need help from large city investigators.
fbi has been involved for a few days
I did not hear if phones were collected. Knowing this age group well, I suspect phone records have a ton of clues. The adage, "someone knows something" applies.
im confused why is it that big of a deal who called the police?
It’s happened many times in the past that the one that called 911 was the one that did the murder
@@noerodriguez5102 Also it’s important to know who found them, how and when. It helps piece together more info into the timeline of events.
because the 911 call misreported what happened saying there was an "unconscious" person at that residence and cops showed up to find 4 killed. the front door was open, so whoever called (it wasnt roomates they said) could have gone in or would have, how else do you see a body/ and if you see the body why do you omit the fact theres blood everywhere? 911 calls have protocol, it wouldve been a diff priority call for something this gruesome. So whoever called was either off and not on planet earth or they are suspicious .not to mention the victims were on the 2nd and 3rd floors in their beds... who saw bodies there from the street? why would you report someone in their bed as unconscious from a distance.
Are you serious? I guess it's a good thing you never went into law enforcement.
@@heybrowhatup im pretty good at criminalistic stuff and this is a normal question that i asked lol it rly doesnt make that much sense but go off
So the cops say they were killed while they slept but also say there are defensive wounds. This doesn't make sense to me. And the other 2 roommates were home and unharmed?? This is so very said. Poor kids. ❤❤
Someone is being protected
I hope they get all the cell phone data from the roommates.
I think LE has alot more info than what's being shared with the family/media.
Wow so sad young lives may they RIP🙏🙏
The roommates that were not harmed??? Wow... Very strange...if they did not do this then maybe someone they knew did...peace, healing and justice for the families and friends
Remember, Ted Bundy attacked and SA'd FOUR women in a college dorm in Florida University and no one heard or noticed a thing. He even attacked them in sequence ie 2 first then the last 2 15 mins later. So it's not impossible
Well this is very possible since the house has a few levels and it seemed to ge more segmented like dorm quads. Possible you would be on a different level and sleeping with a headset .. killed quietly while they were sleeping. My boyfriend sleeps through anything i have been so surprised at that. So I guess being a party house on college row that late .. they were locked in their rooms and either heard nothing or stayed in their rooms scared and not willing to admit they stayed in the room instead of helping.. but then why never call at all? Anyway, it is interesting to ponder.
I just read an updated news article with the timeline of the events. On the roommate section it said ethans mother said the two roommates DID hear something so if that’s the case why didn’t they call the police immediately strange but she didn’t say what those roommates heard
It's possible. Some people are heavy sleeper.
@@jz2806 It was a party house. They could have simply thought what they heard was their roommates partying and having a good time with some of their friends. Do you really think the 2 roommates would have stayed in their bedroom WITHOUT calling 911 if they knew their friends were being slaughtered? I seriously doubt it.
I wonder if there was some kind of RING footage from houses nearby..
Richard Speck way back in the 1960s entered a dorm for nurses & strangled & stabbed EIGHT nurses all by himself - so it is possible for one man & also amityville horror house -- brother killed all SIX family members while they slept
I'm getting Ted Bundy vibs
this is probably someone that knows the victims. lots of homes have cameras nowadays and it's known as a party house.
Who gave them a ride home from the food truck?
first ther said uber now they are saying “private party”
@@allformsinsuranceagency5453 who was the private party? I wonder if the police know?🤔
@@lyndieskurry2379 they did say they know who it was and that they have cleared him
Could the killer have believed that only four people lived in the house therefore did not seek out the other two who fortunately were not at home? Did the two surviving residents move in after the four deceased residents without being noticed? This could mean a distant visitor to the home, even a repair person.
Even if there is no suspects no motive there is someone walking around very likely with scratches on their hands scratches on their body wounded there's no way they stabbed 4 people and walked away without anything getting injured so everyone should be vigilant about that
Why not check for the phones pings in the area ? At the time
That assumes the killer had a phone on him - unlikely - then you also have thousands of phones on the nearest towers. Possible, but quite difficult to investigate.
What people need to understand that the commission of the murders took place in 2 different bedrooms on 2 different floors..( key word here bedrooms)..when the 2 surviving roommates woke up..they just went about there business in the Common area of the house...meaning living room...kitchen..Dinning room..and not these 2 other private bedrooms that belong to someone else...When I had roommates I didn't make a B line to there bedrooms when I first woke up..Sometimes they would crawl out there rooms about 4 pm the next day...so maybe that's why of the time delay of calling this crime in..
The cops need to check the cars of the victims to see if any DNA of someone else was left behind. This is so heartbreaking
The two girls at the food trucks Ubered home. Don’t know what the couple were up to that night
I know who did it
Yea, I doubt they’ve thought of that!
@@samanthab1923 News is now saying it was a private party that drove them home.
@@jbvap seriously lolll these people
Gonna be hard to rent that place now.
Except Halloween
You got that right I’d be terrified to live there and couldn’t sleep through one night there!!!😮
everything about this is suspect.
I hope the city of Moscow will buy this house and demolish it. Replace it with a memorial garden. Plant vegetables and flowers in the spring. Students can pick veggies to eat and the flowers for their tables. In winter, artist can build ice structures for the students to view. That way the ground where that house once stood would always be occupied by something positive and affirming. GOD rest their souls. This is going to be the worst holiday season for these grieving families.
I'd buy it and turn it into a rental
Naw
I’m curious, it was a 6 bedroom rental home, 5 roommates as per this story, the guy was a guest/boyfriend… did a disgruntled person move from the home. I wouldn’t think in college town you would have all the rooms rented?
The 911 call was made by a friend of Ethan Chapin. Evidently this friend and Ethan had made previous plans to meet up at Ethan's girlfriend's apartment on Sunday, 11/13. When the friend arrived he found the bodies. A lot of people are questioning why this friend told the 911 dispatcher someone was unconscious. If I had to guess, the poor kid was in a state of shock and hadn't wrapped his head around what had happened and/or what he saw when making the call to 911. I can't imagine the horror this kid went through.
Makes sense.
This was explained by LE spokemen. Bodies are referred to as "dead" only after they are pronounced by someone with the authority to do so.
Maybe he may had did it
True. If blood had run down on the outside of the home then imagine what the inside looked like?! A war zone I would assume! He more than likely was in shock.
This makes zero sense. So the couple had plans the next day for noon but the two girls who went to sleep before them still didn’t wake up until noon and sat in their locked rooms without any breakfast? Why would his friend just walk inside the house unless the door was left wide open? Sounds suspicious to me. Wonder if he did it
Turn yourself in! I know your conscious is killing you and the thought of being caught terrifies you! I am sure whoever you are are watching and reading like the rest of us! I hope your guilt devours your soul and is giving your tormenting nightmare about the gruesome scene you left behind! So stay afraid and terrified as you should be because someone is going to get you!
Calm Down👈
@@djm4871 My comment offends you?
The kind of person who did this doesn't have a conscience.
Jack the ripper,Zodiac Killer. Not everyone gets caught.
@@mrsinister8943 we have forensic technology today. Back then we didn't.
Was Amanda Knox anywhere in Idaho last week?
don't listen to conspiracies. Investigators are smarter than them!
Yet they did name the person because there are only two roommates and they said there was a call from one of their phones.
I wonder if the person that did this was already in the house waiting for them to return...I originally thought someone followed the walking girls home but now think it is possible the person was already in their home as they arrived (I don't mean the two surviving roommates) ...... and I wonder what all went on at the party the two attended....
The couple was home at 9pm the two girls got home at 1:42 am so I think those two were targeted or followed home and then maybe the couple heard and then got killed
This is making want to go to school for this type of stuff. I need to know what happened to them and who did this.
MS 13👈
Joe Biden's policy did this ...
I would like to know how they were able to rule out the roommates. Especially considering the victims struggled with the(their) attacker(s).
I think they need help from the FBI. These cops might be in way over their heads
I agree. Not to mention, Kaylee had a dog. The dog didn’t bark, which means he could have been very familiar with the killer. It’s seems a psychotic stranger would have hurt the dog without a second thought. This was someone they knew, imo.
Use a police dog maybe dog who did
@@JL-zn7me Was the dog in the house? At the time of the attack?
Right? Why am I getting a Delphi feel. It’s not good
@samantha B. - yes.
I wonder if the name was omitted because a victim called but police didn’t respond and then when police were called a 2nd time they showed up. Some of the unanswered questions lead you to think they are covering something up. Something that tells the full story but they don’t want the public to know.
They didn't lock the door.
I hope they find out who did it and hope they stay in prison forever throat once they’re in their throw the key away
Is this the work of night stalker copycat. This is really sad but sounds like night stalker back in the day.
Who are the names for the four victims?
turn yourself in? I’m sure they’ll hear that n confess immediately
The Police have updated ... the 911 Call was placed by one of the surviving roommates. They wouldn't say it before until those girls had left the area ...
link?
Everyone is that area needs to check their friends and loved one’s hands and arms etc for any cuts
Just checked my mom's hands. She slapped me and asked me wtf was wrong with me and to go finish my chores. Definitely checking dad's hands when he gets back from dialysis.
Cuts, scratches… we know at least one victim fought. It could be a coworker as well. But, they’ll claim it was a fight, accident, or some other fitting reason. They would need to be looked into.
You're running under the assumption that friends and family would turn their loved one(s) in to the government and face life in jail or the death penalty
@@alexialira3839 if you’re a decent person, yes. I know that not everyone is like that though
Is Moscow Moscow sending a msg?
No it's the Republican party at work. Generation Z put the Democrats over the top in the midterm elections
@@randysanders2178 The Democratic Party is the party of perverts you know Bill Clinton and that Jeffrey Epstein guy? Fang fang and swawell? Drones
That's sus.
Cops might not even know who called it in. Caller could’ve used a burner and then destroyed it right after.
Imagine having two people in the house when four people are screaming being brutally stabbed to death and there’s no call to 911 until 8 hours later… and these two people are not considered suspects. These detectives are complete idiots.
It was a party house, perhaps music was loud. There a video going around the amount of noise just by walking around there. It’s on TikTok
3rd floor killed 1st in their bedroom
This was t a run around screaming thing.
There was you?
@@leonwilliams3831 they were killed in their sleep at 1:45 in the morning 😂 I’m pretty sure they didn’t go sleep partying . The two girls definitely heard something.
@@leonwilliams3831 they were killed in their sleep at 1:45 in the morning 😂 I’m pretty sure they didn’t go sleep partying . The two girls definitely heard something.
They say that they took a cab or grab? Did they investigate the grab driver?
Police recently came out and said the two girls got a ride home from an "unknown" person.
@@shh5627 I heard that too but don’t the police know who drove them home? 🤔
You would not need tips if your town had cctvs on all streets !!!
Just like China. No thanks. Next you will be in favor of 24/7 facial recognition.
@@cassandrajoiner9933 than stick to your unsolved murders and don’t complain 😂
@@cassandrajoiner9933 there’s a reason why NYC catches a killer within a day, cameras on every residential and commercial building, you can follow a suspect back home through those 😂
@RayPierre Victims of shootings are up 103% according to NYPD stats. Ain't nobody afraid of those cameras you say are all over the place lmaooo NYC is well known to catch and release too 🤡
@@RayPierre My point exactly. Giving up your personal freedoms for security always ends in tryanny, paraphrazing Benjamin Franklin. NYC has problems of being Really soft on crime so instead of incarcerating criminals they would rather spy on everyone, neither locking up criminals or protecting anyones privacy. What a country!
Ya he is not gona turn himself in
So ridiculous. If none of the victims awoke how in heck would two roommates, further away, hear what was going on
Bingo!
Because the internet will get that name and say it's the killer. People are sick
Someone called 911 and claimed “an unconscious person “. No mention of the gruesome scene or the deceased. Of course they’ll be looked as the killer!
@@JL-zn7me oh wow you've heard the 911 call? Where is it? How do you know they didn't mention?
@@malcriadamedina5358 police specifically said it wasnt mentioned/they were surprised showing up to the scene. that's how the person knows, and unconscious person was quoted meaning it was directly that.
@@bbloodyangel1 ohh maybe they just saw two feet sticking out from under a blanket and freaked out? Maybe they were so overcome and overwhelmed they couldn't get their words out. I just want to know if you're also privy to the 911 call
Exactly 💯 Internet busybodies with nothing else to do, but see everyone as a killer
The police probably knows who did ou have a good guess, wait few days. They hold too many information.
Please tell us what happened to the dog.
This case REEKS of a cover up
The night stalker would check unlock doors on random houses .. that’s how he killed his victims so easily .. always lock your doors even in safe neighborhoods … the other 2 girls probably had there basement door locked .. Feel like the serial killer probably even check they doors but seen it was locked and left
We need to start installing cameras in homes now.
I still think those room mates will solve this case.. Something iffy there!
0:11 what's that?
Omg
Trust your gut yall something ain't adding up with this
6 bedrooms - 5 people mentioned.
Who called 911?
What about the driver that took the two girls home
Incompetence rules.... amateur hour
I’m sure it was a friend who stop by to visit that made the phone call to 911
0:11 seconds of trash can areas, note there’s no black glove at the initial first day of crime scene investigation, that glove was dropped at the area of trash 🗑 days later, the police didn’t miss it or over look it , it wasn’t there , another example of someone waisting the police investigators valuable time and resources
I can see why the 911 caller is not being released IF it was a roommate they have to be scared for their lives. If it were me, yeah I would be afraid the killer or killers would come after me.
Did he walk in from outside of the neighborhood? They don't have any trained k9 to try and track the killer? Did he drive in and out of the neighborhood? There isn't any cameras within the entire community to view?
They probably can’t share who called 911 because the killer is still out there and can target the roommates, if it was them.
huh? all the cops have to say is that the call was made by one of the roommates. they don't have to give the name.
What about DNA samples?
whoever called 911 is suss. unconscious person? its a gruesome bloody scene, how do you miss that detail in your call?
If they were stabbed when sleeping, they would wake up choking in their own blood and covered in organ damaging stab wounds. They could bleed out in the bed, and be mistaken for an unconscious person.
Sounds like at least one victim stumbled around in agony after being attacked. Perhaps she is the one who fought back. If the male victim was found out of bed, he may have stumbled about before dying.
The 911 call was made by a friend of Ethan's who had pre-arranged to meet Ethan at his girlfriend's apartment on Sunday. The kid making the call may have been in a state of shock or he thought Ethan was unconscious when Ethan didn't respond to his name. No one can predict how they would react in this kid's situation.
I agree with you!!!! I would prolly only be able to say "blood" . I had to call the police cuz hearing gunfire near my house I could barely remember my name!
The Idaho K-Bar Massacre
Couldn't they trace the call on a cell phone? Maybe it was a landline, some people still use them.
Yes, all cell phones have records.
Please get FBI involved this little town can not handle a murder this scale, wouldn’t be surprise if they already missed key items!!!
Those other roommates had to see or hear something that will help
Latah county has an above average murder case solve rate of 80%, they will find this person
They have to check every camera at every fast food or convience store in area. Also local Greyhound Station. Hopefully there are speeding cams to check license plates. Then bring in the Psychics.
They ask public help but they won't give you the informations smh
Worse they don't open email. I sent time sensitive set to be overwritten osint dTa woth 4 blocks the house.
I hope the Police do not blow it.
Guy who did it is gone if he has any knowledge on how slow the police work
My family is hurt over kil it makes sick use knife no no wrong
I want to hear the tape. Submit a FOIA request. They have to release the tape, it's the law.
I am thinking that whoever called 911 had to have known what happened. Or they are the killer.
A teacher so distraught he can't teach his class..... yeah okay. Sure.
It's either him or a neighbor who watched, stalked, waited and attacked when it was easiest to do so. Wasn't strong enough to attack without them all being drunk and passed out. In order to have so much blood without screams throats had to be cut first. That way, effectively if they did fight back they'd weaken with every second. A woman could have very easily done this, but more likely an incel who flunked out, couldn't get accepted into the academy and lives next door. Showing his worth to police by killing helpless weak defenseless people. Then running after the last one or up a fight. Thinking he was heard and afraid to get caught ran before he could finish what he started. This isn't over. Police won't find dna and he didn't bring his cell phone with him. So police won't know how to investigate. Because all they know is dna, cell tracking and waiting for someone to tell. They never solve their crimes. They have to wait for the public to do it for them.
To all the murders this message is for u god is a consuming fire
There are thousands of active serial killers.