Best Film on Newton's Third Law. Ever.
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2011
- There is a gravitational force of attraction between the Earth and the moon, but is it mutual? That is, are the forces on the Earth and the moon equal? Most people would say no, the Earth exerts a greater force of attraction because it is larger and has more mass. This is a situation in which Newton's Third Law is relevant. Newton's Third Law says that for every force, there is an equal and opposite reaction force. So the force the Earth exerts on the moon must be exactly equal and opposite the force the moon exerts on the Earth. But how can that be - that the same size force keeps the moon orbiting, but barely affects the Earth? The answer is inertia - the tendency for all objects with mass to maintain their state of motion. Since the Earth has much more mass than the moon, it has greater inertia and therefore experiences much less acceleration for the same amount of force.
UA-cam recommends me this video after a complete decade.
me too
same xD
Same lol
I'd say this is the main reason YT is the best at its game
Same. It was a shock seeing him so young.
Yes, changing the thumbnail and title does increase your CTR and impressions. Watching a video made 10 years ago. Guess you cracked the algorithm:)
This is also my conclusion.
LMAO
Iwas literally thinking the same thing xD
So priceless
skinny-tasium lol
@@TheWilliamSnfrd he is so young =)
"any two objects will have the same gravitational force towards each other"
Next Up: Why Gravity is NOT a Force
That was what i was thinking lol
well for most simple physics where you assume everything is a particle and work with at most two dimensions, newtonian physics is more than enough, even in some profession relativity is irrelevant because, while an oversimplification of the natural world, newtonian physics still accurately desribe most of our day-to-day lives.
@@jthoward Still, not a force
@@eeronat You’re not wrong, it’s just that in most cases, and pretty much including this one, and the difference is unimportant
Yeah, that was my problem with this video. Sabine Hossenfelder would like a word.
He’s literally farming views at this point, after he’s figured out this whole UA-cam algorithm. To be quite frank though, he deserves more views
I guess so
Truuuuuuuue
Entirely agreed - however this one felt more towards the clicktrap end of the scale than the perfect legitbait. Not entirely sure I ended the video feeling as satisfied as his more recent videos - but that figures, considering it's a decade old 😊
Agree. Think even he knows this is not the best video about Newton ever. Great to watch young Derek, though!
Yeah I'll grant him that because he still has this innocent curiousity when he tries these things plus I don't feel duped because he gives me a lot back by shamelessly grabbing my attention like that so it's a double win (and it feels more like a running gag by now actually).
And last but not least, his honest intend.
You just know that he doesn't do that to grab money, he really does this to spread his enthusiasm for science, to enrich others and not just himself. So it makes me chuckle how this overambitious squirrel is now hacking itself through every of his videos to spread the love. It's contagious.
And it also puts the true clickbaiter to shame as he beats them in their own game which forces them to become better or fade into unimportance again. It's just perfect on so many levels.
he's so young
Stephen Fapsalot I’m glad he brought the beard back lol
+
He's even younger...
This gets weirder the more time passes
@@thekingoffailure9967 he's even more young...
DID YOU FEEL NEWTON INSIDE YOUR SPLEEN!?!?!?!?
Cringe
Nope. I didn't ;-;
Yes. It's now exerting the same gravitational attraction as the rest of me.
nope
Yes. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Amazingly, even after all these years since Derek posted this video, Newton’s laws still hold - I can feel it in my spleen!
That's concerning from a medical point of view
Amazingly even after all these years since Derek posted this video, I still dont understand Newtons third law - I cant feel it in my spleen!
@@wilforddraper1894 thats assuring from a medical point of view
I feel that the gravitational force on my spleen does indeed match its force on the Earth.
Amazingly, even after all these years since Newton wrote this law, it still holds - I can feel it in my spleen!
0:29 "The moon pulls on the earth too. It affects the tides... and women."
I was not expecting that. I LOL'd.
I assume she’s referencing the moon cycles and mensuration link thing, which I think might be a myth, either way I don’t think it’s to do with gravity
Month, moon, menstruation - they're surely all related...
@@exessex3522
@@exessex3522 everything is connected
@Trance - 009 Sound System Dreamscape lol i was thinking that too lmfao
And that's why size doesn't matter boys. It's all about the force..
Postermaestro NAILED IT !!
Postermaestro I'm not a scientist tho i really don't understand the newton's law calculating who is attracting who really...... object A attracts object B, what happens? they get closer right? so isn't the gravity force the combined attraction of A and B? i mean we are in space talking about planets and so who's the static parameter: if i pull someone, if i'm heavier, that someone will get moved toward me, or instead i'll be pulled to that person. That notion is only mesurable since we have the static ground to compare who moved toward who, if you remove the ground, we just get closer and on that no matter who pulled harder since the link between us it the pulling force that was enough to counter our combined inertia... or i just didn't got it ^^'
Jack Jack if you and a friend were sitting in separate rafts floating in water holding opposite end of a rope and pulled the rope, you would both move and meet near the middle of where you started. If ten people joined your friends and you pulled the rope, you would move more than them but they would move toward you a some.
In all cases, the tension on both ends of the rope would be equal. You are pulling with the same force that you are being pulled.
Mark Daniel indeed and in that case: what would happen if they (10) were just holding the rope and not pulling and i was pulling it alone? it will for sure result of me getting closer to their spot but they would also move but all of that in slow rate, what i'm trying to poit at is: How could you say the pulling force is from who or who? the generator of that force is a separate thing from the pulling force appliance itself cause if i genenrate 50% of it and the 10 guys in front would each generate 5% it would result 100% for all of us so for my understanding the pulling force applied is one single pulling force applied equaly to 2 masses.
Another question is: As we know a chopper can't move faster than his fan's rolling speed, if it goes 10km/h while it's fan at the edge rotates at 10km/h as well, means one side will travel 20km (opposing wind from speed 10km/h + it's own speed 10km/h) and other will stay static 0km/h (10km/h from moving speed - 10km/h of own backward movement) so now that we are aware that moving around an already moving corp creates such variations, how does the moon follows earth while at a point the inertia of both is down while moon crossing earth's path from front and increased while the moon is crossing from behind? there is more than just gravity and it's not only pulling, i'm wondering if the gravity stream itself can kind of stretch and retract without loosing any force or if the loss from one move isn't increasing another field we don't know yet wich will bend those 2 masses to an almost regular distance, since we can keep track of both earth and moon's paths, i see it more as 2 corps bound to an elastic rope.
BlacksUnited - Erika. I agree erika, women with small chests like yours are way less attractive than women with bigger chests.Thank you for bringing up this topic.
p.s. your channel name is racist.
Speed limit C only applies in Germany
And Montana.
Even c is still finite compared to no speed limit in Germany
@@gerryakbar haha
What is speed Limit C? Is it a joke? Sorry i dont get it, maybe cause i am german...
@@alexanderschulz2100 c is the speed of light
Derek really took that "baity titles for older videos" thing to a whole new level
"Did they really feel it in their spleen?"
*-Veritasium 2011*
2011 ok?
Nominated best spleen play of 2011
@@ZeroOneInfinity hmmm 2 lettered word..
@@ZeroOneInfinity Man spleening?
@@danielculver2209 By the Spleenwriters Guild
3:07 "speedlimit: c"
well, that's a bit much don't you think?
I noticed it tooo is it on purpose
Jaswant Gunaseelan - yes, c is the speed of light, which is the speed limit of the universe.
EnviedShark didn't think that
I noticed it too
Noticed it at the begining of the video
"Do you know why I pulled you over, today?"
"Probably because I was going D in a C zone, officer"
halowaffles : Not bad.
halowaffles James Whistler
"But not really believe Newton's Third Law in their core, did they really feel it in their spleen?"
......
"Can you feel Newton's Third Law in your spleen now?"
"It should settle in side you, and become, a part of you."
halowaffles i dont get it
halowaffles oh nevermind haha that was good.
+halowaffles Love it lol. Noticed it too
RIP Benny Harvey. My dear friend interviewed in this video. So sad to see him so young ten years ago. He was a brilliant force that the moon couldn’t equal.
Wow that's sad. I'm sorry for your - and it sounds like all of ours - loss.
Which one is he?
Gone but not forgotten
I'm so glad this is joke is still alive
Killing your friend for youtube likes SeemsGood
So I guess we're really really pushing into this "retitling" territory. It's interesting!
As a teacher I was super proud of that guy who stopped to think about what he said initially and started working it out... Seriously though, excellent explanation, thank you - will be using this with my classes.
Are you feeling it now, Mr. Krabs?
Are you... feeling it?
Napoleon Not enough force
Napoleon Do you smell it?
Multimedia message (mr krabs.3gp)
Look how young you are! You have aged wonderfully Derek. Thank you for everything you have given us and continue to give us.
Knowing true meaning of NEWTON'S THIRD LAW OF MOTION only after watching this.I AM FEELING IT IN MY SPLEEN, THANK U. A LOT❤️
It's young Derek O my god
josh m : I could watch him all day.
yea ...
yeah...
@@jameswhistler968 Ha gayyyy.
I'm gonna copystrike u bc u should've linked to my principia
Nice one
Hey wait! He gave you credit, didn’t he?
Return to your bible work, Newtie :)
Lol
What's your 4th law?
Or just realize that when you stand an the scale an measure your weight on Planet Earth, that you'd get the same amount as if you flipped the scale upside down and measured the weight of Earth on Planet You.
Woah..
Mind blown 👀🙆♂️
Haha I love this as a way of thinking about it. It also helps explain how your measly 100-200lbs or so is (mostly) inconsequential to the earth, which is so much more massive and has so much more inertia to overcome to be moved by you.
I didnt get it
@@sirewangpho5146 You standing normally on a scale and you standing on a scale which is upside-down ,both show the same weight.
Since weight is just another way of saying force, you exert same force on earth as the earth exerts on you.
Sry if I made no sense
Seem like Derick clickbaiting skill to applease youtube algorithm is doing well.
This is really helpful to me though.
I love how the speed limit is the speed of light.
+Mareritt Which scientificly speaking is actually not completely correct. C is the speed of causality, but light just happens to travel at that speed (or to be exact: everything with no mass and no forces acting on it moves at c).
@@mariusmuller2420 nerd
@@brauliocardenas1227 checkmate
@@mariusmuller2420 you're being pedantic for no reason
@@brauliocardenas1227 You just watched a video titled: "Best Film on Newton's Third Law. Ever.
"... aren't we all nerds here?
I don't feel comfortable placing Newton's third law in my spleen.
I think this is one of the best comments I've ever seen. I'm still laughing...
O yes i feel very comfortable.
And i've got no red hair!
August 2021 recommended - hi everyone else! Hope you’re doing well and can feel it in your spleen
I do in fact feel Newton's third law in my spleen
These old videos sure hit different, huh?
he changed the title and thumbnail so all of them surfaced xD youtube third law
@@somefreshbread they hit right in the spleen
I don't know why this was recommended to me in 2021 but I love it.
Newton's Third Law = If you want to get somewhere, you've gotta leave something behind.
Actually, if you want to change where you're going.
I THOUGHT WE HAD ENOUGH RESOURCES FOR THE BOTH OF US
every level of astraction you add to NTL will guarantee make it more confusing
*We agreed Amelia... 90%*
The movie is cool but that's not what Newton's third law is about... Overdramatization
Please don't shave. Ever.
hahaha exactly
From 25 y.o. to 14 y.o.
But he looks younger!
he is younger check the date
He looks like a boy band reject without the beard. If you have heard him sing in another video, it just confirms it.
I think it would've tied it up nicely to finish the ending by adding that now with equal forces acting on the masses, the smaller one accelerates more because it has smaller mass.
Thanks man, this finally helped me understand it
thank you!
Jesus Christ...
Just got this recommended
So young, so beautiful, so charming (and so shaved)
I see now how you got your first 9 million subscribers
Through hard work and dedication ofcourse.
Lol. Does anyone else notice the speed limit sign?
Yup!
Gosh that would be one hell of a fine for speeding on that rode
TheChemistryShack ***** Loki Dunn gamer4370 Miguel Blanco i was thinking some thing else i have seen a lot of his video and they have some changes this is a big change the letter c but if you look closer to some other videos you will see letters and numbers and the question is... Is this a code? i know this is going to be crazy but... sorry... never-mind i don't know ..
TheChemistryShack Actually, they couldn´t even fine the photons!
Yeah!
Nobody :
UA-cam : yeah boi, this video got 8 years old let's recommend this to everyone
Watching it by the end of 2020, lol.
And again
And again 2021
Now 10
When I taught physics, the 3rd law was by far the hardest area for removing student's preconceived notions. You just pointed one of them out. The other is that they think that the matching force for my weight, when I'm standing on a floor, is the floor pushing up on me. The first Khan Academy video on N3 even had this wrong, and 10 years later that video is still up. And everybody argued fiercely with me when I tried to explain that the video was wrong.
true
Damn, we need to comment bomb that video. Khan Academy is taken to be the work of God by many.
He went from small2 concepts to really bigger ones inspiring to be someone like him.
So one atom in space has the same gravitational pull to the earth as the earth has to one atom in space?
Yes.
***** An atom near the surface of the Earth will have the same acceleration as anything else near the surface : 9.8 m/s² (ignoring drag). Also, the force will not be the same. It would be very very small.
***** I think we are saying the same thing. In your earlier comment, you said that the atom accelerates a lot. I took that to mean like a lot compared to the rate other objects near Earth accelerate. You meant a lot compared to Earth, and the forces you are referring to are the forces on the Earth and the atom. Yes, those forces are the same. I thought you meant the force on the atom was the same as the force on other object from the Earth. Just a misunderstanding.
Yes precisely. But the actual effect on the two objects due to said force will be different, as explained by the previous replies here.
Unless it has a quantum state that allows it to be closer to the earth than the earth is to it.
Your spleen is one of the only organs that dose not have a pain center, It's imposible to feel anything there
I don't think that's true. Possibly only the capsule of the spleen has pain sensation. Sickle cell kids get painful splenic crises.
Pedant 🥳😊
does*
The spleen is the center for our oldest awareness, much much much older than the mind, you feel everything that keeps you alive in there =)
I remember watching this video 8 years ago. It made me love physics way too much that I became a mechanical engineer. No regrets. Old is Gold.
Your ability to bring a ten year old video from yourself to the surface that I have never seen recommended before is amazing
"Because it's a greater mess, and a greater mess equals more force?"
Sounds like my mom.
+Vensey Ness yor mom does same forze on earth as aerth on her!11
Hi from the future
I'd love to see you interview some engineering and science first year students from college about this.
In India, people choose to become engineers and doctors because of the cred and money it earns them (and also due to lots of parental pressure) and not because they really love the field they're a part of and it's very common to see such mistakes happening there among engineering students as well unless, ofc, they memorised a question that relates to the exact same problem
This video was not shot in india kiddo😂
You probably never studied in IIT KGP bro 😁
@@hemarawat2637 n u probably haven't met much people bro
if you are indian then i can say you are one of those least indians who dont hide the facts and say it as it is. i saw many indians always trying to indian is that or what not.but never saw an indian comment saying that this is wrong with indians ppl or country as a whole...and for speaking the truth you are truly the goat
The only thing I learned from this video is even if people knew something and be aware of that knowledge at the time of being asked the relative question they could still lack understanding of the knowledge.
Is 2021 long enough to call this a throwback
Is it bad I laughed at the speed limit sign?
Bluefire9911 no its good that you know that c=speed of light
Bluefire9911 Oh yeah it was hilarious.
What's wrong with it? All I see is 25
Oh I get it now, it got changed at the end
*_THE SPEED LIMIT_*
I really appreciate these videos more now after your video about what makes for good science content. Starting with a contradiction is a great way to get people really engaged in ways they'll remember.
I was playing baseball and got hit in the spleen. My spleen rebounded with an equal and opposite force.
That’s not true.
@Selvam Thiagarajan If it is not true, then Newton's Third Law is not true.
@@LucidDreamer54321 you have a point, I am all confused now.
@Selvam Thiagarajan So you are in your normal state of mind.
@@LucidDreamer54321 No I am normally not confused, just this instance only.
did anyone notice that the speed limit is c out there ?
Yesss.
Speed limit: c.
Best joke I've heard all week XD
W8 are you being sarcastic??
+(:Turretshooter500:) Am I?
+WindyDelcarlo: Using my inference and deduction skills, my instinct says that you are being sarcastic.
+(:Turretshooter500:) well, do you think I actually think I am? ;)
No one can break this law! No really, they literally can't
10 years, recommended by YT. Derek definitely cracked the algorithm.
my favourite part is that he'd never make this same video nowadays. probably because of its relative simplicity. doesn't matter though, he deserves every view he (can) get(s)
The spleen analogy was kinda weird. Glad you're past all that now.
You and 118 others might wanna look up the definition of analogy
SensualCream why
lol I agree the spleen thing was kinda creepy
yeah how is that an analogy
I felt that newton law in my liver
If you put a rubber band (or a piece of elastic chord or whatever) around two objects, the pull towards each other is obviously equal. If the objects are the same mass (two identical marbles) they'll move towards each other at the same speed. If you have one huge marble and one smaller one, the bigger one will still move but slower than the smaller one, because of inertia.
A neat way to visualize the concept of gravity and Newton's 3rd law.
This is more interesting than the video 😊
Thank you UA-cam for recommending me this masterpiece after 13 years
Dude, it is a great pleasure to see how long it has been and how far that passion I see in your (10 years behind) eyes got you so far and to such a huge success!! Congrats! Whenever coming to Brazil count on me to help...
my god, how old were you here? 12?
It was 2011, so he would be 28 years old :)
Somethings very young with you if you have a beard at the age of 12
Yeah, how about now?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Don't even know where my spleen is
It's just below your ribs on your left side.
same
Is not enough to know where it is, you have to feel it in your spleen.
Rugg it's uhhhhhhh........ its uhhhh, I should have paid more attention in science class.
Has anyone noticed that board behind of speed limit 1:49😂🧐
Derrick, you've gotten so much better at making videos, omg. It's like night and day. Still golden content though. You just keep getting better.
2:08-2:11 you forgot to change the speed limit
Oh wow the quality of your videos has improved tremendously.
Recommended only after a decade.
Thank you UA-cam,it was informative
I can now feel newton's third law in my spleen. Thank you Veritasium.
Therapist: "Shaved Veritasium doesn't exist. He can't hurt you"
Shaved Veritasium:
Ok is no-one going to talk about how the speed limit is "C" at 2:30
Why would anyone talk? Don't we all know that c is the speed limit of the universe? /s
I'm not one that's known for saying the right thing...I just say what I have to say....can't help it...so, that being said, I'm a new subscriber and have been watching your videos, to catch up, and thought hey, start at the beginning somewhere. So I found this one. You haven't changed a bit... except for the 10ish year age thing we all go through....but your video quality, method of delivery, enthusiasm, the love of science, physics, nature...is a constant. Outstanding work @Veritasium , thank you!
Man, it’s so obvious how far you progressed. Great job!
I'm getting such a strong 2000s vibe from this. And I love it 😇
When it comes to gravity I think it is more intuitive for people to see F = ma in the form of F/m = a. That way it looks more like we are solving for a.
i was so taken aback by how he looked a decade ago
Clear enough and although it's ten years later, some reference to the inverse square formula in this particular context would have been interesting.
I don't even know where my spleen is...
Well then, feel it somewhere else inside you!
its on the left side... behind the lower most ribs
Google Translate says you call it the σπλήνα, in Greek. Not surprised, it is roughly a cognate with the English word. Probably originally a word in Greek.
Derek really feels to his spleen that he can possibly increase the number of views significantly by changing the title and thumbnail.
*Ah yes gotta love a bit of Newton’s 3rd law in my spleen*
Recommended by the Algorithm after 13 years.
Speed Limit: C
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Clever Derek!
I just noticed that when I paused the video!
Yeah, I noticed that! :D
just remember f = ma. if anything my physics teacher tought me, is that every time we need to solve a new problem, just stick in f = ma and see what happens
yeah, f= ma plus f=G(M1*M2)/r basically tells this whole story
F - R = Ma + M`V *
@@zyadmohamed5360 no... for most problems f = ma is enough
@@bonkybonk_ow2793 yeah but It is not correct since f is the rate of change of momentum with respect to time
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
9 years later, this is your masterpiece...
Derek has a crush on the word "inertia"
In terms of the gravitational field, the moon's is weaker than the Earth's. Probably that's where the confusion comes from.
Antonio Mariscal We know what you said ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Antonio Mariscal en conclusion. ¿el video tenia razón?
I don't think anyone that has this misconception has learnt about fields...
Fresh Rock Papa-E I think one who's aware of the Third Law or the cause of the tide probably also at least have some basic knowledge about gravitational field bending light.
@@kruth6663 That's Einstein's Spacetime, the Newtonian gravity they're studying doesn't include the bending of light.
Incredible how far you've come Derrick!
I laughed when I saw the new title!,… and clic…, and was very satisfied of the content! Good job Derek!
New thumbnail and title driving new viewers hey... Seems like Derek is updating the backlog.
In the case of the Earth and Moon. It's actually not Newton's Third Law that's being invoked. Why? Because, the Third Law is still a Law of *Motion.*
In reality it is just Newton's Universal Law of Gravitation that is needed here, as it states that every particle in the universe, will attract every other particle in the universe with a force... proportional to...blah, blah!
Newton's Third Law only arises when we consider the actual *motion* of the two objects, in orbit around there barycentre. The *Action* is centripetal and is called, *gravity* and the *Reaction* is *inertia* and is called, the *centrifugal* force.
Although, typing this was a complete waste of *absolute* time, as no one will ever read it. Thanks
Nah bro, great explanation. Loved it
@@saksham79 Yeah bro, you're welcome, great reply. Loved it. Although, I'd add that at the centre of the moon the centripetal and centrifugal forces cancel, according to *Newton's Third Law of Motion.* And the moon continues on it's straight line path, at a constant speed, moving on an unaccelerated path, called a geodesic in curved spacetime, because Gravity actually is not a force? And a force is not required to maintain *Motion.* Which is explained in another successful show on this channel. Take care and thanks for the support.
This is the best explanation I have ever seen.
Well done, Derek. 👏
Dude! I am so glad I came across this video. Legend.
I died laughing when saw there in background.... Speed Limit c
This can be easily seen from the fact that both the gravitational force and the electromagnetic force are directly proportional to the product of the masses and charges respectively.
You must make supplemental videos. Thanks for the info.
Instructions weren't clear, now I have a ruptured spleen.
Wow .
Young derek really looks young 😃 it's amazing to see how much derek has improved in video quality and story telling in this short time.
I am learning physics for 2 years, down to quantom physics. But I must say I hadn't understood Newton's 3rd law !
This demonstration is perfect ! Thank you for that !!!! :)
MrPhitos I'm not sure how you could have become familiar with Quantum Physics without an understanding of Newton's Third Law!
Willoughby Krenzteinburg
I know Newton's third law for 3 years now...
I am just saying that my teacher didn't told us how to understand it. He just told us : "That's it !" and I've never been curious enough to understand it, so I accepted it.
And about Quantum Physics : I think it is Niels Bohr or Rutherford who said that it seems complicated but the maths are pretty easy ! (and it is a bit true...)
+Willoughby Krenzteinburg You don't need to rationalize any of it in order to work with it.
Taxtro you kind of do. I can't imagine grasping quantum physics without understanding Newtons third law. In physics, the more advanced concepts require a basic understanding. It's like claiming to be a professional NFL quarterback without knowing how to throw a ball.
Willoughby Krenzteinburg
No, it's knowing how to throw the ball, but not having a rationalization for why it flies the way it does.
Haha great job on the speed limit sign troughout the video xD.
Why is it recommended to me after 13 goddamn yrs
That video is fantastic. The youth, the c, the spleen... 10/10 would recommend
i just noticed that towards=to+wards
fore wards
back wards
up wards
to wards
Similarly, they're all twowords.
You are really cool to do videos like this! I'm a bit interested in physics and now I learned so many things, like how does light work and what is inertia. Thanks!
Ye haven't bitten the dust yet, mate?
This might not be best but you are definatly the best
I think Derick has waken up a clickbaiting super power.