You know when you try and download something that's too good to be true and it says prove youre a human by downloading these apps I always see Norton making me super suspicious of the Company
@@derangeddonald6779 Imagine thinking that's important. Bloody bandwagoners - hopping on the stock market a month ago and thinking they know anything of how the world of trading works.
@@vincentjonesvr hey I mean if he wants to make money then don't hate him. A companies stock does matter because it helps investors to know what companies to invest in so the company has more money or support to make better products.
Norton is actually very useful if you know how to use it. And unless you're using an ancient computer Norton won't slow you down, it's literally only using ~20MB RAM on my PC right now.
One thing I remember about the piracy scene on Wii, is that Nintendo tried to combat it with an update to the system's firmware. The problem is, even on consoles that weren't hacked, it had the potential to brick the console. Ironically, if you DID hack the console, you'd likely have access to something specifically designed to unbrick your machine, because of how it's installed. In other words, Nintendo went so hard on anti-piracy, they made the console more unstable than if you hacked it.
If I recall correctly, part of that was an IOS designed only for Korean Wii Systems that, when installed on a region-changed Wii System, would brick it.
Yeah the wii's updating system sucked, 1 in 1000 chance to brick and updates couldn't truly add new features. The sd card menu which allowed wiiware to be stored on sd cards copied the games to nand never actually playing them on the sd card.
That reminds me of word filters - random people will get punished without knowing why, whilst people who are actually saying terrible things will just put the n-word in a different font and get away with it, lol
11:03 "But the imminent threat of ISO-37 would stall Datel from releasing a NTSC freeloader until the patch had been implemented, but the imminent threat of ISO-37 would stall Datel from releasing a NTSC freeloader until the patch had been implemented and they could find work arounds." Repeated line lol
Also, there's a mistake. It was supposed to be IOS, being initialized that as it's an Internal Operating System inside the Wii's NAND. Even the system menu has an IOS.
I knew all about the Wii hacking, I wasn't aware that the other two were hacked, though. I had a 360 for six years, and was broke most of those years, so I'd love to know how the console was hacked
Fun fact: my company used to provide me Norton before they decided to change. My company sent out an email telling us to uninstall norton before the accounts expired, or else Norton would lock up, not functioning as an anti-virus(so basically like normal) but also not letting you uninstall it, since it wanted you to get another anti-virus first, which it wouldn't let you do since it wouldn't uninstall. So yeah if your Norton service ran out, it would brick your firewall until you payed for more.
R.I.P Bushing. He seemed like such a cool person. We wouldn't be here in the Wii modding community without him. Please, a moment of silence everyone...
Clarification on the last tidbit: the Project M team is not part of the Rushdown Revolt dev team. Only a handful were present in the previous project, Icons Combat Arena, which ultimately failed due to multiple factors such as lootboxes, poor optimization, and lack of innovation. The game was bought back by Chris Kovalik, one of the three original investors in the game. He set out to rebrand the failed project and did so with new talents, not Project M developers.
But Project + is alive.. And with some new interests could be well. I'd love to see it. PM is the most fun game I've ever played. Got me into Melee, and while i love it, PM just feels so fluid and free..expressive
@@EigengrauMonitor Well, I was one of four. The original three founders ran the site for a few months before I joined and added a bunch of tech stuff like the Wiimote API for Flash that let you use the gamepad.
You're little JBanes?! I absolutely loved working with your dad. One of the most intelligent and professional people I've ever known through the internet. I still make the raspberry cheesecake recipe he shared with me.
@@Yooooooo83 ah okay, I should've watched the later part of the video, I was referring to that yuzu controversy myself, the one where the team had a goodle drive full of pirated games
TWR here, one of the four leaders of WiiCade. Awesome to see WiiCade getting some love! We had a really cool API for Flash and JavaScript developers back then that allowed games access to buttons, wiimote rotation, and up to four players for games! In fact. We got NewGrounds Rumble (a Smash clone of sorts) working with the API for all four players! Later on we added online play, so you could start a game and the website would ask visitors if they wanted to join the active game. It was pretty cool for something working off of the Wii. Biggest challenge was always performance. The Wii wasn’t the fastest piece of hardware, and doing the work to stretch to full screen often taxed it pretty badly. There was later a DSiCade which was even more successful. Some old users of the site got the archive from me and still host a static version for posterity.
To be honest, no matter how bad pirating and hacking is. It lead to a lot of awesome stuff being made on the Wii. Mainly Project M and I thank them for that.
I entered a smash tournament and lost badly I only knew it was that m mid crap when I saw the character select screen I didn't know what the fuck was going on
13:43 Yo I just wanna point out that there’s some misinformation here. Vortex Games and the Rushdown Revolt team are totally unaffiliated with the PM team, from my understanding there was some affiliation back when Icons was being developed, but as of now the two teams are entirely separate groups
Let's be honest: We all had a friend or partner which had a hacked Wii with a Hard Drive full of games, and we probably discovered a lot of games through it, that we would've never played without it.
Guess I'm one of the rare few gamers that aren't included. The only time I've ever saw a Wii in real life in my entire life is in a mall that has a small playground area for kids.
Honestly, without piracy we would've never got official localizations/fan translations to many games that we'd asked for many years ago or discover the many differences of the same game but with different content (usually exclusive or censored/uncensored)
Without piracy, player's exposure to games would be limited to whatever they remembered and whatever companies keep putting out. Think about that in the context of Nintendo's recent output and how dependent they are on brand recognition.
13:43 is straight up just completely incorrect information. Rushdown Revolt, and the game it was salvaged from "Icons", are not / have never been developed by the Project M developers... Even a cursory amount of googling who was working on the game would have shown this.
@@normalguycap By “in terms of business”, do you mean the fact that they seem to leave money on the table by not just porting pretty much all their first party games from NES to GameCube onto the Switch? Because if so, I agree. Otherwise, there’s still EA, Activision, Ubisoft, 2K, etc. when it comes to scummy companies. Also, shoutout to Konami for being both bad with money and being a scummy company!
@@MrZer093 This isn't an argument of degree. All big companies are bad in gaming. None are granted a pass because another happens to be worse. But to be more specific, Nintendo is also very scummy in their practices and behaviors not just their stupidity with money or potential money.
EDIT: They seem to have edited out the entire segment for Rushdown Revolt. -CORRECTION at --13:42-- (Please like for visibility)- -I am on the development team for Rushdown Revolt. We have -*-no-*- affiliation with Project M Dev Team and only own the codebase and assets for Icons: Combat Arena which did have a development team that consistent of only a few Project M Dev Team members.-
Ah yes, nowadays the Wii is one of the most wide open consoles of all time: emulators, USB loaders, WAD Managers, etc. Back then this was disastrous, but now that the Wii is absolutely down for the count with no Shop Channels, WAD installation became funnly enough the only way to get WiiWare and Wii VC today. The Wii is one of my most cherished systems and I customized its software to all hell. Really if it wasn't for homebrew, My Wii would be sold or rotting on a closet, but thanks to this it is having a great use now!
Everyone loved coming to my house for parties, that was back when you could hack in other custom music into Guitar Hero for the Wii if your console was hacked. We had such a blast playing Guitar Hero back then thanks to that.
I remember when I completely lost my Twilight Princess save file right before the last dungeon because I used the Twilight Princess homebrew without reading about it clearing your save file 😭
Hey, great video! Just a heads up, Rushdown Revolt has absolutely no connection to the PM devs, but a couple of them are still involved in PM's successor, Project +! It has tons of new features past what PM already added, including a fully playable Knuckles!
I dont think the original PM team is part of rushdown revolts development but the title beforehand Icons had a few of the PM Development Team working on it at the very least
Psp was more so than the ds because the ds you had to buy an r4 or similar device, the psp you could softmod easy enough with the right firmware or just borrow a copy of liberty city stories if you didnt have it.
Gotta get on that Wii U Hacking Game. On top of all the cool new stuff you can do with the Wii U hardware, you can hack the vWii inside of the Wii U as well (and you don't need an adapter to output your Wii to HDMI)
I really enjoyed this episode! Thanks for all the research! This makes me wanna take apart and clean up my old dusty Wii I haven't touched in 10 years.
with them not understanding this and being sponsored by “norton for gamers” it’s almost like these guys are completely clueless and disconnected with the content they’re talking about.
I added so many features to my Wii that werent there before, playing custom made games, a media player (that crapped itself 50% of the time) and I also turned the whole desing into a dark-red theme
the wii being broken WIDE OPEN is 100% of the reason i still keep mine hooked up. it stopped reading discs long ago, so being able to play all my games without a disc was great. not to mention just ALL THE EMULATORS. god, i love the wii.
To be honest I like to hack my systems but don’t use them much. I just like the idea that I can play whatever I want for free. I have a 3DS and Vita I had fun hacking and filling with games that both have drained batteries because I don’t use them.
Not to mention there's tons of custom tracks, other packs and other mods outside of CTGP, plus a competitive community all keeping the game going too. I think they had talked about CTGP in an mkwii specific video though.
DYKG talked about CTGP a lot in the recent Mario Kart Wii video, including interviewing MrBean. It was recent enough it woulda seemed weird to talk about it all over again.
Had a brand new laptop with Norton. Uninstalled it. Everything took 30+ minutes to load until I could download something else to fix what Norton did. Never trusting Norton with anything. This has happened with 2 other computers that came with Norton.
Rushdown Revolt is not being developed by the PMDT. The PMDT included about 70 members, and after the conclusion of the project, 4 of them (including the project leader) went to work at Wavedash Games on their new game: Icons. While Icons was in beta Wavedash games dissolved, one of the founders of Wavedash games (not one of the PMDT) bought the IP and is now working as Vortex Games on the title under the name Rushdown Revolt.
needless to say, I have to thank all these people, I was really young, and I can't still afford a Wii game since my situation is pretty bad so Thanks to everybody who worked in the Wii's homebrew scene
We had Norton on our old PC once. It quarantined itself, so it could no longer update or be uninstalled, and only a factory reset could remove it. Honestly, I'd rather my PC die from a virus rather than it dying from Norton telling me I have one.
Ex PMDT here: No, Icons was not made by the Project M team. Yes, they hired a few Project M members later in development, but considering the scale of Project M, a handful of members does not count as "the PMDT making the game"
I Def still have 2 hacked Wii's. One hardmodded and one softmodded. This is the best did you know gaming video. So many memories of late 2008-2010 with doing these hacks. Waninkoko was king.
i love watching stuff that originated from somewhere else, also, i met a kid on a discord server that claimed that had pirated "a crap ton of games" and that hed always get away with it, the thing that convinced me was that he knew about Steam Unlocked.
Waninkoko didnt quit after the leak, I worked on it with him and we worked on it for several years after that, including the 1st gamecube iso loader after I found a bunch of 8cm discs in poundland to burn games onto and thought it would be a cool idea to run backups off them on the wii. It was only shortly after usb loader clones and other people interested in them that could work on them more did the work stop, along side other personal reason for waninkoko like finishing university at the time. While he did "quit" it was purely to piss people off and to make them think their hopes of piracy on the wii would come to an end because a bunch of kids over on gbatemp and a couple other forums at the time thought it was funny to give a bunch of abuse, not that we took it to heart or anything, we knew it would just hurt them more that they couldnt pirate games than a few words on some forums haha. I actually got a friend to link one of my videos showing backup discs working on the wii when we got the initial code working onto gbatemp, but i told him just pretend you stumbled across it so we can blow gbatemp up and make all the stupid kids go nuts with speculation. Including my lazy naming of files because we went thought 1000s of iterations of just naming them Real1 real2 reeeeeeeeeeeeeel, because some iterations would just be minor adjustments to things like dvd seeks or magic numbers and others like when id name them real were working copies i could still use in my spare time to play games. This of course made people think it wasnt real because who names things "REAL!!!!!!!". Well I do because as a 15 or 16 year old I was just too lazy to keep up with naming them in order and losing track of what ones worked and what ones were just for testing with.
Slight correction: The Project M team isn't involved with Rushdown Revolt, only a few of their members were in the Icons: Combat Arena team. But otherwise great video! Project M lives on through its competitive and modding community, and a community update to PM called Project+ was recently made. CTGP and MKWii modding is also a very notable community that still continues to thrive from Wii homebrew.
Just an FYI ARM means Advanced RISC Machines and originally Acorn RISC Machine. RISC is another acronym which means Reduced instruction set computer. All mobile CPUs are running ARM code (smartphones and tablets) and most consoles. while Intel and AMD CPUs are CISC architecture which means Complex instruction set computer
Did you know?: Norton dosen’t do anything, I’ve seen a comment on a video say on the lines of: “I’ve gotten Norton yet still got hacked”. This just goes to show to say if it’s too good to be true then it probably is.
More interested in hacking and homebrew than piracy. They said, being able to rip my handicapped sister's games to a thumb drive so she doesn't tear them up is handy. I also like the datel ds cart since it was commercially avalible, and while it initially had issues it was great for homebrew and I loved homebrew on my ds. Moon's hell was amazing.
I'm confused. What's the difference between the homebrew stuff and piracy? What is the purpose of cracking a system if not for things like hacking, emulation, and piracy?
If it wasn’t for piracy I would’ve had to spend thousands for the games I own now. Mainly first party Nintendo games. I wasn’t about to pay $150+ for paper mario thousand year door and a good GameCube controller
I definitely don't want to pirate things that can legitimately bought from the developers or publishers. It's a slippery slope that I'm guilty of sliding on, but I try to have my limits.
Honestly this anti piracy stuff annoyed me back in the day. I had a launch day Wii, at some point after the warranty expired, my disc drive was failing. A 10 second cut scene in Red Steel could take upwards to 4 minutes as the game was trying to load the next line of dialogue. The audio and video in The Last Story was completely out of sync, and some games just didn't work at all. I could have had my disc drive fixed sure, but how much would that have cost? Would Nintendo even have taken my Wii since it was already hacked? Just running the games I had off a hard drive without having to swap discs seemed more convenient. Also being real: I had already bought the games I wanted to play on Wii anyway.
The Rushdown Revolt thing with regards to the PMDT isn't entirely accurate. Over the course of 2015-2017, iirc four (might've been five) former Project M devs were hired by Wavedash Games, a startup consisting mostly of former Riot, Blizzard and Bioware devs who were working on a Smash Bros.-inspired fighting game called Icons: Combat Arena. In late 2018, the studio folded, and their assets were bought up by Chris Kovalik, an early investor in Wavedash Games, and a lot of the ideas behind Icons are being reworked for a new game called Rushdown Revolt. Neither Kovalik nor any of the other Rushdown Revolt devs had any hand in Project M
I honestly prefer not to hack my consoles to play pirated games, and would use the system as intended, because all this homebrew stuff is quite confusing.
It was actually super easy to get the Homebrew channel going. All you had to do was download an idiot-proof homebrew package, put it on your sd card, boot up smash bros and do the exploit... Was shocked at how easy it was
I really miss being able to mod your console to your liking. Forget piracy, the Wii Homebrew scene had tons of useful tools and QoL improvements that made the Wii so much better. Now we're just limited to whatever lacklustre package Nintendo decides to put on their systems...
Team Tweezer are straight busters. Why limit the homebrew scene just to get a few rep points with Nintendo, the people who absolutely hate them for exploiting the Wii to begin with. All they did was screw over the rest of the modding scene. I'm glad other modder were smart enough to bypass all their dumb HB channel measures.
Just seeing the Norton logo made my ram usage spike.
You know when you try and download something that's too good to be true and it says prove youre a human by downloading these apps I always see Norton making me super suspicious of the Company
Their stock is also so ass
@@derangeddonald6779 Imagine thinking that's important. Bloody bandwagoners - hopping on the stock market a month ago and thinking they know anything of how the world of trading works.
@@vincentjonesvr hey I mean if he wants to make money then don't hate him. A companies stock does matter because it helps investors to know what companies to invest in so the company has more money or support to make better products.
Norton is actually very useful if you know how to use it. And unless you're using an ancient computer Norton won't slow you down, it's literally only using ~20MB RAM on my PC right now.
"Did you know? The Wii was a hotbed of Piracy!"
...I plead the fifth.
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer that question under the protection afforded to me by the Constitution.
Me with homebrew that's got like 5 games and 3 different versions of melee:
...
Can neither Confirm nor Deny it
@@fabian5002 you're not under oath.
Norton for Gamers: It's useless like regular Norton, but for gamers!
But now it has LED lights!
Opera GX looking ass
@@gogon8973 i resent that!
And the only way to uninstall it is to nuke the registry, what a deal.
I agree Norton is trash. We paid about 40+ dollars for it and our computer still got hacked.
One thing I remember about the piracy scene on Wii, is that Nintendo tried to combat it with an update to the system's firmware. The problem is, even on consoles that weren't hacked, it had the potential to brick the console.
Ironically, if you DID hack the console, you'd likely have access to something specifically designed to unbrick your machine, because of how it's installed.
In other words, Nintendo went so hard on anti-piracy, they made the console more unstable than if you hacked it.
If I recall correctly, part of that was an IOS designed only for Korean Wii Systems that, when installed on a region-changed Wii System, would brick it.
Yes. Priiloader and Bootmii are both on mine for one reason and that's to recover the console in case of a brick
Yeah the wii's updating system sucked, 1 in 1000 chance to brick and updates couldn't truly add new features. The sd card menu which allowed wiiware to be stored on sd cards copied the games to nand never actually playing them on the sd card.
That reminds me of word filters - random people will get punished without knowing why, whilst people who are actually saying terrible things will just put the n-word in a different font and get away with it, lol
@@Markiplier2?? It didn't mean to brick?
11:03 "But the imminent threat of ISO-37 would stall Datel from releasing a NTSC freeloader until the patch had been implemented, but the imminent threat of ISO-37 would stall Datel from releasing a NTSC freeloader until the patch had been implemented and they could find work arounds."
Repeated line lol
Also, there's a mistake. It was supposed to be IOS, being initialized that as it's an Internal Operating System inside the Wii's NAND. Even the system menu has an IOS.
Oh thank god, I thought my phone was messing up when that happened
Was looking for this comment. I legitimately thought I was having a stroke
They’ve done this multiple times in different videos. It’s annoying.
DYKG is having this issue a lot when it comes to repeated lines. It's seriously annoying
The Wii, 360, and PSP were such iconic hacked consoles. What a generation.
What about the DS?
I knew all about the Wii hacking, I wasn't aware that the other two were hacked, though. I had a 360 for six years, and was broke most of those years, so I'd love to know how the console was hacked
@@ace-trainer-aj there's nothing to hack on a DS, you just use a flashcart, for either homebrew, or piracy
My PSP stopped working for whatever reason so I bought a Vita and it has a PSP emulator so now I have Vita and PSP all in one.
360 hacking wasn't *that* popular. Wii and PSP on the other hand, they were everywhere, yeah, it was truly an era to behold.
Fun fact: my company used to provide me Norton before they decided to change. My company sent out an email telling us to uninstall norton before the accounts expired, or else Norton would lock up, not functioning as an anti-virus(so basically like normal) but also not letting you uninstall it, since it wanted you to get another anti-virus first, which it wouldn't let you do since it wouldn't uninstall. So yeah if your Norton service ran out, it would brick your firewall until you payed for more.
9:00 Who would've known that the Homebrew Channel would have anti-piracy measures.
Pirate The Pirates.
Irony
The lack of "Did You Know Gaming?" in the title makes this video give off a menacing aura
That's what I was thinking
I don't see the point of including that when it is the channel name.
The fact that the editing is a bit rougher than it should be is also kind of weird.
:\
R.I.P Bushing. He seemed like such a cool person. We wouldn't be here in the Wii modding community without him. Please, a moment of silence everyone...
Clarification on the last tidbit: the Project M team is not part of the Rushdown Revolt dev team. Only a handful were present in the previous project, Icons Combat Arena, which ultimately failed due to multiple factors such as lootboxes, poor optimization, and lack of innovation. The game was bought back by Chris Kovalik, one of the three original investors in the game. He set out to rebrand the failed project and did so with new talents, not Project M developers.
But Project + is alive.. And with some new interests could be well. I'd love to see it. PM is the most fun game I've ever played. Got me into Melee, and while i love it, PM just feels so fluid and free..expressive
So basically Brawlhalla but it sucks?
It looks like they trimmed that part of the video.
@@DefinitiveDubs Yeah, you can notice if watch the video with captions
HOLY CRAP MY DAD WAS MAKING WIICADE thank you so much for referencing his work!!
Wait, he DID??? :O
@@EigengrauMonitor Well, I was one of four. The original three founders ran the site for a few months before I joined and added a bunch of tech stuff like the Wiimote API for Flash that let you use the gamepad.
@@thewiirocks hey that's pretty cool!
You're little JBanes?!
I absolutely loved working with your dad. One of the most intelligent and professional people I've ever known through the internet. I still make the raspberry cheesecake recipe he shared with me.
@@I3IackSabbath Damn, this is wholesome.
“We’ll only get a response if the homebrew scene actively contribute to piracy.”
_The Gang Contributes to Piracy_
Id watch that episode.
yuzu joke for those who don't get it lmfao
@@BBWahoo How so?
@@BBWahoo I think it’s an Always Sunny reference
@@Yooooooo83 ah okay, I should've watched the later part of the video, I was referring to that yuzu controversy myself, the one where the team had a goodle drive full of pirated games
TWR here, one of the four leaders of WiiCade. Awesome to see WiiCade getting some love! We had a really cool API for Flash and JavaScript developers back then that allowed games access to buttons, wiimote rotation, and up to four players for games! In fact. We got NewGrounds Rumble (a Smash clone of sorts) working with the API for all four players!
Later on we added online play, so you could start a game and the website would ask visitors if they wanted to join the active game. It was pretty cool for something working off of the Wii.
Biggest challenge was always performance. The Wii wasn’t the fastest piece of hardware, and doing the work to stretch to full screen often taxed it pretty badly.
There was later a DSiCade which was even more successful. Some old users of the site got the archive from me and still host a static version for posterity.
did it get shut down? the old link is down
@@lemon.3973 Long time ago, I’m afraid. Eventually I wasn’t able to maintain the sites anymore and turned them off.
@@thewiirocks well, the end of an era I guess. my parents had the Wii before me lol
Thanks for being a part of things. I remember spending hours playing a Spiderman style game.
“Argh who dares pirates a copy of super Mario galaxy with the homebrew channel?”
USBloaderGX ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not guilty on account of insanity!
@@ItsRetroPlanet guilty
*shoots beam*
@@mrgameboy5727 "so Twilight, was there any friendship lesson you learned today?"
"Uhh... Don't be friends with criminals?"
".....eh, close enough."
Home brew scene: That’s cheating.
“Pirate Crew”: _Pirate!_
To be honest, no matter how bad pirating and hacking is.
It lead to a lot of awesome stuff being made on the Wii.
Mainly Project M and I thank them for that.
don't forget Wiimmfi!
I entered a smash tournament and lost badly I only knew it was that m mid crap when I saw the character select screen I didn't know what the fuck was going on
and CTGP
Mario cart wii cgtr
13:43 Yo I just wanna point out that there’s some misinformation here. Vortex Games and the Rushdown Revolt team are totally unaffiliated with the PM team, from my understanding there was some affiliation back when Icons was being developed, but as of now the two teams are entirely separate groups
Let's be honest: We all had a friend or partner which had a hacked Wii with a Hard Drive full of games, and we probably discovered a lot of games through it, that we would've never played without it.
how did you read my mind
My cousin used to have a psp with super Mario world
I wasn't the friend, I did it
I didnt, i just watched youtube for my wii games.
Guess I'm one of the rare few gamers that aren't included. The only time I've ever saw a Wii in real life in my entire life is in a mall that has a small playground area for kids.
So Wii homebrew basically began before the Wii even launched thanks to flash games and fans anticipating how the Wiimote worked.
Damn, that's actually really cool
I haven’t been happy in months
@@SirSpaceCow write a sonnet about drunk driving.
ARM stands for Acorn Risc Machine, not Advance Risc Machine 😉
Vinesauce
Honestly, without piracy we would've never got official localizations/fan translations to many games that we'd asked for many years ago or discover the many differences of the same game but with different content (usually exclusive or censored/uncensored)
💯
Some hacks have outright enabled bad ports/emulations from 1st party publishers themselves to be actually playable.
Without piracy, player's exposure to games would be limited to whatever they remembered and whatever companies keep putting out. Think about that in the context of Nintendo's recent output and how dependent they are on brand recognition.
We're still waiting for Mother 3.
Piracy of corporate goods is morally correct and most times, a need
"Pirating games on the Wii. Whatever do you mean?" --literally every Wii owner towards
13:43 is straight up just completely incorrect information.
Rushdown Revolt, and the game it was salvaged from "Icons", are not / have never been developed by the Project M developers...
Even a cursory amount of googling who was working on the game would have shown this.
They honestly get a fair few things wrong and I really don't think they research that hard. Unreliable
It seems that they straight up removed that part of the video via the UA-cam Studio Editor, hence the abrupt cut in the current version of the video
Welp
Nintendo: Never lower prices of games released 20+ years ago. Scalpers spike prices of rare games.
Nintendo: Why is piracy a thing?
BINGO!!
Nintendo is one of the worst companies in terms of business.
They prefer not to make things easy for themselves
@@normalguycap By “in terms of business”, do you mean the fact that they seem to leave money on the table by not just porting pretty much all their first party games from NES to GameCube onto the Switch? Because if so, I agree. Otherwise, there’s still EA, Activision, Ubisoft, 2K, etc. when it comes to scummy companies.
Also, shoutout to Konami for being both bad with money and being a scummy company!
@@MrZer093 This isn't an argument of degree. All big companies are bad in gaming. None are granted a pass because another happens to be worse.
But to be more specific, Nintendo is also very scummy in their practices and behaviors not just their stupidity with money or potential money.
*sees the sponsor for the hacking facts video*
Palpatine "ironic."
I forgot how ridiculous looking those wii commercials were.
EDIT: They seem to have edited out the entire segment for Rushdown Revolt.
-CORRECTION at --13:42-- (Please like for visibility)-
-I am on the development team for Rushdown Revolt. We have -*-no-*- affiliation with Project M Dev Team and only own the codebase and assets for Icons: Combat Arena which did have a development team that consistent of only a few Project M Dev Team members.-
Norton? Hell, I'd rather just have the viruses.
I’ve gotten so many Nintendo piracy screens in my recommend lately so I guess this one is the final boss
*The fifteen minute anti-piracy screen.*
I hope they're not tracking me....
Ah yes, nowadays the Wii is one of the most wide open consoles of all time: emulators, USB loaders, WAD Managers, etc. Back then this was disastrous, but now that the Wii is absolutely down for the count with no Shop Channels, WAD installation became funnly enough the only way to get WiiWare and Wii VC today.
The Wii is one of my most cherished systems and I customized its software to all hell. Really if it wasn't for homebrew, My Wii would be sold or rotting on a closet, but thanks to this it is having a great use now!
"Only if the Homebrew scene actively contributed to piracy."
_The Homebrew Scene Contributes To Piracy_
Norton: Do you have malware on your computer? ...no?
Norton: Would you like to?
Everyone loved coming to my house for parties, that was back when you could hack in other custom music into Guitar Hero for the Wii if your console was hacked. We had such a blast playing Guitar Hero back then thanks to that.
Project M and Project + dev here. Thanks to everyone here in the comments for dropping in to support our work.
10:50 That repeated part made me think I had suffered a stroke.
By the time I got Homebrew on my wii it was the Letterbomb age.
I’ve not heard that in a long time
Hell yeah. Letterbomb's the bomb. It doesn't get easier than that.
@@chopsmccartney6786 str2hax: *Am I a joke to you?*
I remember when I completely lost my Twilight Princess save file right before the last dungeon because I used the Twilight Princess homebrew without reading about it clearing your save file 😭
Hey, great video! Just a heads up, Rushdown Revolt has absolutely no connection to the PM devs, but a couple of them are still involved in PM's successor, Project +!
It has tons of new features past what PM already added, including a fully playable Knuckles!
knock knock
I dont think the original PM team is part of rushdown revolts development but the title beforehand Icons had a few of the PM Development Team working on it at the very least
11:03 They liked that line so much that they wrote it twice
Wii was the epitome of Piracy and Homebrew alongside the DS loved the consoles
Wii piracy let me play all the DBZ characters in smash
Psp was more so than the ds because the ds you had to buy an r4 or similar device, the psp you could softmod easy enough with the right firmware or just borrow a copy of liberty city stories if you didnt have it.
PS2 would like to have a word with you
Yamcha from dragon ball, what are you doing here?
Gotta get on that Wii U Hacking Game. On top of all the cool new stuff you can do with the Wii U hardware, you can hack the vWii inside of the Wii U as well (and you don't need an adapter to output your Wii to HDMI)
I really enjoyed this episode! Thanks for all the research! This makes me wanna take apart and clean up my old dusty Wii I haven't touched in 10 years.
Did anyone else think Mario's eyepatch was an empty eye socket for a split second, no just me?
me too mate
It was just you....
@UK RPGFan You seriously just vibe with it while I am unsettled the more I look at it. Ok!
Thanks for sponsoring _a portion_ of that video *Norton for Gamers*
I don't think I wouldn't be able to wach it without you.
Video starts at 2:12
The bit at the end is wrong, maybe 2 members of the pmdt are working on rushdown but it’s a largely separate matter.
with them not understanding this and being sponsored by “norton for gamers” it’s almost like these guys are completely clueless and disconnected with the content they’re talking about.
I added so many features to my Wii that werent there before, playing custom made games, a media player (that crapped itself 50% of the time) and I also turned the whole desing into a dark-red theme
Gotta love when you read the line so well that TWO takes make the cut for the video ;)
the wii being broken WIDE OPEN is 100% of the reason i still keep mine hooked up. it stopped reading discs long ago, so being able to play all my games without a disc was great.
not to mention just ALL THE EMULATORS. god, i love the wii.
Being a pirate is my favorite hobby
relatable
To be honest I like to hack my systems but don’t use them much. I just like the idea that I can play whatever I want for free. I have a 3DS and Vita I had fun hacking and filling with games that both have drained batteries because I don’t use them.
11:03 - you repeated the "But the imminent threat..." line here, btw...
Thought i was having a stroke 😂
@@AndyKeyless Same here, I had to pause the video and look for this comment lol
No mention of CTGP? That’s the one thing that to this day keeps Mario Kart Wii extremely active
On top of that, they even showed footage of Mario Kart maps from the current versions of CTGP. But in no context other than “mods and homebrew”.
Not to mention there's tons of custom tracks, other packs and other mods outside of CTGP, plus a competitive community all keeping the game going too. I think they had talked about CTGP in an mkwii specific video though.
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DYKG talked about CTGP a lot in the recent Mario Kart Wii video, including interviewing MrBean. It was recent enough it woulda seemed weird to talk about it all over again.
Having Norton on your pc is like having a nasty virus on yoour PC, eeewww on Norton, plus how slow the computer gets is unreal.
Had a brand new laptop with Norton. Uninstalled it. Everything took 30+ minutes to load until I could download something else to fix what Norton did. Never trusting Norton with anything. This has happened with 2 other computers that came with Norton.
#THETRUTH. 💯
@@xantohjan must not have been a very powerful laptop then
Rushdown Revolt is not being developed by the PMDT. The PMDT included about 70 members, and after the conclusion of the project, 4 of them (including the project leader) went to work at Wavedash Games on their new game: Icons. While Icons was in beta Wavedash games dissolved, one of the founders of Wavedash games (not one of the PMDT) bought the IP and is now working as Vortex Games on the title under the name Rushdown Revolt.
needless to say, I have to thank all these people, I was really young, and I can't still afford a Wii game since my situation is pretty bad so Thanks to everybody who worked in the Wii's homebrew scene
So THAT'S why my Homebrew Channel was always upside down :o
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The Wii got me into Homebrew and soft motting so now I have every console modded in some way besides the PS4 and PS5
Be honest: If you own a wii, you have probably attempted, or at least thought about, homebrewing your console at least once.
I didn't. I'm not really sure what was so special about the Wii specifically in that regard.
Umm. Yeah....thought ......😒
I never even knew you could do that
nope
Never really wanted to. I knew I could, but just didn’t have any real desire to
Hearing about Brawl mods brings back memories of my first 3D animations I ever made, which was on Brawl. Kind of want to pick up animations again.
surprised you didnt talk about kirby or smurfs dance party
Would be interesting to see the history of action replay/power saves and how the developers and license holders have acted towards them
We had Norton on our old PC once. It quarantined itself, so it could no longer update or be uninstalled, and only a factory reset could remove it.
Honestly, I'd rather my PC die from a virus rather than it dying from Norton telling me I have one.
Ex PMDT here:
No, Icons was not made by the Project M team. Yes, they hired a few Project M members later in development, but considering the scale of Project M, a handful of members does not count as "the PMDT making the game"
I Def still have 2 hacked Wii's. One hardmodded and one softmodded.
This is the best did you know gaming video. So many memories of late 2008-2010 with doing these hacks. Waninkoko was king.
RIP Bushing, you did so much for this scene and you went far too young...
The Wii is seriously one of the best systems for modding, I love my modded wii sooooo much, I'll never get rid of it
2:12 to watch the actual video
i love watching stuff that originated from somewhere else, also, i met a kid on a discord server that claimed that had pirated "a crap ton of games" and that hed always get away with it, the thing that convinced me was that he knew about Steam Unlocked.
"This video is sponsored by Norton"
No thank you! I'll try my luck with the hackers viruses and malware thank you very much!
Waninkoko didnt quit after the leak, I worked on it with him and we worked on it for several years after that, including the 1st gamecube iso loader after I found a bunch of 8cm discs in poundland to burn games onto and thought it would be a cool idea to run backups off them on the wii. It was only shortly after usb loader clones and other people interested in them that could work on them more did the work stop, along side other personal reason for waninkoko like finishing university at the time.
While he did "quit" it was purely to piss people off and to make them think their hopes of piracy on the wii would come to an end because a bunch of kids over on gbatemp and a couple other forums at the time thought it was funny to give a bunch of abuse, not that we took it to heart or anything, we knew it would just hurt them more that they couldnt pirate games than a few words on some forums haha.
I actually got a friend to link one of my videos showing backup discs working on the wii when we got the initial code working onto gbatemp, but i told him just pretend you stumbled across it so we can blow gbatemp up and make all the stupid kids go nuts with speculation. Including my lazy naming of files because we went thought 1000s of iterations of just naming them Real1 real2 reeeeeeeeeeeeeel, because some iterations would just be minor adjustments to things like dvd seeks or magic numbers and others like when id name them real were working copies i could still use in my spare time to play games. This of course made people think it wasnt real because who names things "REAL!!!!!!!". Well I do because as a 15 or 16 year old I was just too lazy to keep up with naming them in order and losing track of what ones worked and what ones were just for testing with.
I feel like they wanted to make the guy who used stuff to pirate wii games look bad, but I kinda rooted for him the whole time.
12:26 Man, that trailer is so nostalgic :(
Slight correction: The Project M team isn't involved with Rushdown Revolt, only a few of their members were in the Icons: Combat Arena team.
But otherwise great video! Project M lives on through its competitive and modding community, and a community update to PM called Project+ was recently made. CTGP and MKWii modding is also a very notable community that still continues to thrive from Wii homebrew.
ah yes i'm sure this channel will offer very good and nuanced thoughts about nintendo piracy
Here cause I love Project M!
Represent, brother
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Project m was amazing
PM was the best smash game not even close
@@aplezauz8809 Brawl's content + Melee's gameplay, a recipe for success
Just an FYI
ARM means Advanced RISC Machines and originally Acorn RISC Machine.
RISC is another acronym which means Reduced instruction set computer.
All mobile CPUs are running ARM code (smartphones and tablets) and most consoles.
while Intel and AMD CPUs are CISC architecture which means Complex instruction set computer
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Did you know?: Norton dosen’t do anything, I’ve seen a comment on a video say on the lines of: “I’ve gotten Norton yet still got hacked”. This just goes to show to say if it’s too good to be true then it probably is.
Man I love my wii till this day! I have it loaded with many many games and vconsoles
More interested in hacking and homebrew than piracy. They said, being able to rip my handicapped sister's games to a thumb drive so she doesn't tear them up is handy.
I also like the datel ds cart since it was commercially avalible, and while it initially had issues it was great for homebrew and I loved homebrew on my ds.
Moon's hell was amazing.
Nintendo: Piracy is for chumps
Also Nintendo: Localizing Mother 3 is for chumps
13:38 - "However, it was suddenly discontinued in December twenty fifte-"
Nintendo: That's enough talk about Project M
Fine Nintendo, I'll make my own Super Smash Bros game then. With Blackjack and Hookers.
Every Super Smash Bros Clone Games: Right...sure you will.
I'm confused. What's the difference between the homebrew stuff and piracy? What is the purpose of cracking a system if not for things like hacking, emulation, and piracy?
If it wasn’t for piracy I would’ve had to spend thousands for the games I own now. Mainly first party Nintendo games. I wasn’t about to pay $150+ for paper mario thousand year door and a good GameCube controller
Waninkoko was my childhood hero.
I definitely don't want to pirate things that can legitimately bought from the developers or publishers. It's a slippery slope that I'm guilty of sliding on, but I try to have my limits.
Nobody cares lmao
They made it easy these days by kissing away gamers in the name of broken games filled with social justice nonsense.
@@dolanbanks6764 It's not about getting caught, it's about doing the right thing and supporting the developers
@@kieronireikets7884 dont care didn’t ask
Yesss finally another homebrew/hacking vid
Honestly this anti piracy stuff annoyed me back in the day.
I had a launch day Wii, at some point after the warranty expired, my disc drive was failing. A 10 second cut scene in Red Steel could take upwards to 4 minutes as the game was trying to load the next line of dialogue. The audio and video in The Last Story was completely out of sync, and some games just didn't work at all.
I could have had my disc drive fixed sure, but how much would that have cost? Would Nintendo even have taken my Wii since it was already hacked?
Just running the games I had off a hard drive without having to swap discs seemed more convenient.
Also being real: I had already bought the games I wanted to play on Wii anyway.
The Rushdown Revolt thing with regards to the PMDT isn't entirely accurate.
Over the course of 2015-2017, iirc four (might've been five) former Project M devs were hired by Wavedash Games, a startup consisting mostly of former Riot, Blizzard and Bioware devs who were working on a Smash Bros.-inspired fighting game called Icons: Combat Arena. In late 2018, the studio folded, and their assets were bought up by Chris Kovalik, an early investor in Wavedash Games, and a lot of the ideas behind Icons are being reworked for a new game called Rushdown Revolt. Neither Kovalik nor any of the other Rushdown Revolt devs had any hand in Project M
I honestly prefer not to hack my consoles to play pirated games, and would use the system as intended, because all this homebrew stuff is quite confusing.
Yea I tried for years to hack my wii but never got it to work. So I stopped trying
I have never done it myself it just makes me feel uncomfortable and id have no idea what id be doing anyway
It was actually super easy to get the Homebrew channel going. All you had to do was download an idiot-proof homebrew package, put it on your sd card, boot up smash bros and do the exploit... Was shocked at how easy it was
I really miss being able to mod your console to your liking.
Forget piracy, the Wii Homebrew scene had tons of useful tools and QoL improvements that made the Wii so much better.
Now we're just limited to whatever lacklustre package Nintendo decides to put on their systems...
Thank you eternally to the console hacking community for all that you have done and will do 🙏🏾
Team Tweezer are straight busters. Why limit the homebrew scene just to get a few rep points with Nintendo, the people who absolutely hate them for exploiting the Wii to begin with. All they did was screw over the rest of the modding scene. I'm glad other modder were smart enough to bypass all their dumb HB channel measures.
It's insane how everyone ""pretends"" they're against piracy when the final aim has always been that.
Love it, thanks for always making such neat videos!
Glory to the piracy! A lot of my consoles are hacked🏴☠️
2:13 to skip ad once you get to the ad.
No, ad blockers won't work so you will have to skip it yourself.
I wonder if Norton came preinstalled in this video. Good luck trying to remove it.