Tim Richmond vs NASCAR Officials at 1985 Southern 500

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  • A scoring dispute at the 1985 Southern 500 cost Tim Richmond a lap during a cycle of pit stops. When NASCAR tried to penalize him a lap they felt he didn't deserve, things got heated. A brief interview with ESPN showed he had choice words for officials who continued to penalize him for improperly serving his penalty.

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  • @kennethjohnson2967
    @kennethjohnson2967 Рік тому +112

    Rules are rules ! And NASCAR has ruled the sport to death ! I use to watch every race , i barely watch any now !

    • @jimbob4456
      @jimbob4456 Рік тому +6

      Me too. Lost its luster

    • @daviddelosier1915
      @daviddelosier1915 Рік тому +3

      It's almost like a series of iroc races. Pretty soon Nascar will give the teams sealed engines and transmissions
      .

    • @philiphatfield5666
      @philiphatfield5666 Рік тому +3

      You are so correct. I am 64 and we were crazy for stock car racing, but it is such a 'contrived' mess now that I will watch anything on TV but a Nascar race. From the stupidity of 'stage racing' to the silliness of the endless 'red flags' and 'green-white-checkers', the so-called sport didn't need a truly boring roster of drivers, but it ended up with that as well. Nascar is such a joke that the inept fools that run it cannot even come up with a decent race car!

    • @amosburton
      @amosburton Рік тому

      The rules? You grew up! You probably don't watch Disney movies anymore either...

    • @amosburton
      @amosburton Рік тому

      @@philiphatfield5666 It would be endlessly pathetic if you were still watching NASCAR at 64, be proud of the fact that you matured past it.

  • @geraldthompson7749
    @geraldthompson7749 Рік тому +42

    Tim Richmond Was Tim Richmond Who Was A Helluva Race Car Driver & He Was Definitely A Rare Breed & Very Talented ....RIP Tim 🏁🏁🙏✌️

    • @derekblubaugh3836
      @derekblubaugh3836 Рік тому +2

      I've heard people studder, but I've never seen it until now lol

  • @DewkChronic
    @DewkChronic Рік тому +89

    Nascar should be ashamed how they treated Tim Richmond at the end.

    • @shaunstrasser1
      @shaunstrasser1 Рік тому

      In part they had an idea he had AIDS before it was announced he had it. They didn't want him in a car due to not wanting anyone exposed to it

    • @KellieLeigh48
      @KellieLeigh48 Рік тому +1

      He shouldn't have lied then

    • @shaunstrasser1
      @shaunstrasser1 Рік тому +1

      @@KellieLeigh48 true

    • @kennithmorella2693
      @kennithmorella2693 Рік тому +1

      @@shaunstrasser1Tim was not the first to lie lie, and he damn sure wasn’t the last lie. Doesn’t change the fact he was a hell of a race, car, driver, and good people

    • @shaunstrasser1
      @shaunstrasser1 Рік тому +5

      @@kennithmorella2693 NASCAR lied about Mayfield as well

  • @roadrunner40
    @roadrunner40 Рік тому +66

    There was always someone NASCAR did not want to win races.

    • @arwyss
      @arwyss Рік тому +1

      Did you watch the clip? He entered a closed pit

    • @roadrunner40
      @roadrunner40 Рік тому +6

      @@arwyss yes I did watch the clip. And yes in the clip it is said that he entered a closed pit. It should be obvious the comment is not based on a minutes long UA-cam clip.

    • @scallen3841
      @scallen3841 Рік тому +13

      NASCAR has their favorites

    • @kevingallagher6804
      @kevingallagher6804 5 місяців тому

      Bill France Senior and Junior ran NASCAR THE RIGHT WAY…

  • @GregBrownsWorldORacing
    @GregBrownsWorldORacing Рік тому +46

    Always a Harry fan, but enjoyed Tim & his passion for Winning the race or even just for the pole. He was an asset to the sport of NASCAR. I'm not sure anybody had the hunger he had. Had Tim stayed healthy, I'm not sure if the 3 car could have won 7 titles.

    • @richgrimmett9993
      @richgrimmett9993 Рік тому +7

      I am a Dale Earnhardt fan and I will have to say I agree with your post. Tim Richmond was a huge threat to Dale Earnhardt winning 7 titles. I would go as far as to say that a healthy Tim Richmond could have easily won two to three. Sure would have been fun and exciting to see him Dale SR duke it out for many years!

    • @dand3975
      @dand3975 Рік тому +2

      @@richgrimmett9993 Dale would have one 7 championships if Richmond raced till 2021. Richmond would have won 1 or 2 championships also, 1 or 2 other current champions would never one a title. Richmond had money and was having a fun time racing. Dale was a Racer.

    • @joenorris8220
      @joenorris8220 Рік тому +2

      @@richgrimmett9993 That could have been up there with Petty/Pearson rivalry.

    • @Joel-yj3ic
      @Joel-yj3ic Рік тому +1

      Tim Richmond and Davy Allison would have had at least 5 between them. Alan Kulwiki could have gotten more himself. I'd have loved to see Bobby Allison get another one.

  • @dirtnbeer
    @dirtnbeer Рік тому +42

    I was always a Tim fan. That guy was just cool! Ranked up there in coolness with Clint Eastwood and Evil Knivel.

    • @Slinger43
      @Slinger43 Рік тому +3

      @@clarenceghammjr1326 DK was "The Man" I believe Tim first drove in Nascar for DK, it's actually a little scary too think of all the shenanigans afoot with those two run'n amuck! 😆👍

    • @steven9428
      @steven9428 Рік тому

      I like the way you think.

    • @davidcisneros1429
      @davidcisneros1429 Рік тому

      LOL

  • @Ricky_Grade10
    @Ricky_Grade10 Рік тому +25

    Tim Richmond was just as good if not better than Earnhardt. He was treated awful and was taken from us too soon. His 30 for 30 'to the limit' is incredible.

  • @numbzinger350
    @numbzinger350 Рік тому +84

    NASCAR treated both Tim Richmond and Bill Simpson very poorly. NASCRAP

    • @randyp6370
      @randyp6370 Рік тому +3

      Definitely

    • @bradbroemmer9106
      @bradbroemmer9106 Рік тому +9

      And now they're running it into the ground.

    • @arwyss
      @arwyss Рік тому +4

      Did you even watch the clip? He entered a closed pit lane

    • @jonnobarrie1744
      @jonnobarrie1744 Рік тому +4

      @bradbroemmer9106 nascar will be around long after you're gone 😂

    • @Digger818
      @Digger818 Рік тому +1

      @@jonnobarrie1744 herpes will always be around too. Doesn't mean it's good

  • @davidcisneros1429
    @davidcisneros1429 Рік тому +14

    NASCAR really screwed things up!
    I wonder who didn't want Tim to win the race?
    Yeah, it's really that bad.

    • @shaunstrasser1
      @shaunstrasser1 Рік тому

      They had an idea he had HIV at the time and since back then people believed you could get the virus just by touching an uncut part of the infected person's body is why

  • @heyrod59
    @heyrod59 Рік тому +8

    Yeah, rules are rules but when a driver as good as Richmond gets penalized because he's a threat to the leader of this race, something is wrong. Fast forward to 2015, it got worse and worse and as the result I no longer watch auto racing of any kind.....

    • @nowake
      @nowake Рік тому +2

      Yeah, you just spend all day going on youtube and writing comments on auto racing videos

  • @jamesterrilliii5104
    @jamesterrilliii5104 Рік тому +13

    Very disappointing way to treat a great driver

  • @THROTTLEPOWER
    @THROTTLEPOWER Рік тому +7

    Shame how they treated Tim..................... 🏁🏁

  • @jeffreyking279
    @jeffreyking279 Рік тому +6

    Tim Richmond wasn't one of the anointed ones so NASCRAP made sure he didn't win.

    • @anton1949
      @anton1949 Рік тому

      He wasn't 'plugged in'.

  • @georgewaters8592
    @georgewaters8592 Рік тому +13

    Wow... I never knew about this, and I think 1985 is the first time I ever saw Tim race too, and became an instant fan. Thanks for posting, that was pretty good, Tim being Tim :) :) :)

  • @farmbilt
    @farmbilt Рік тому +15

    What a wheelman..The sport could use him today.

    • @16sondra
      @16sondra Рік тому +3

      Oh, they still race nascar? Forgot

    • @cdismore3251
      @cdismore3251 Рік тому +4

      If they could get these new guys to be about what these race warriors were about, I'd probably start watching it again. Too much politics involved now for good racing.

  • @A-FrameWedge
    @A-FrameWedge Рік тому +4

    Loved to watch Tim Richmond at Riverside raceway, he was even better on road courses, had so much talent.

  • @tommyhollier671
    @tommyhollier671 Рік тому +8

    He's the only driver ever that could intimidate Earnhardt they did this on purpose cuz they like to Earnhardt he was as good if not better driver any day

  • @ThePanman48
    @ThePanman48 Рік тому +8

    Naswho? Racing died with the C.O.T.

    • @philiphatfield5666
      @philiphatfield5666 Рік тому +1

      You are right. Nascar cannot even come up with a decent race car! They hype the hell out of it, and give it important names like the 'Car Of Tomorrow' or the 'Next-Gen' car, but it never seems to drive any better than a stock car from the 1980's!

  • @phukyergreennewdeal1053
    @phukyergreennewdeal1053 Рік тому +3

    Earnhardt respected Richmond, once told his crew chief "you'd better check every nut and bolt in that racecar cause he drives the shit out of it". Such a sad end. Richmond was a great driver and a better person.

  • @davidrice3337
    @davidrice3337 Рік тому +8

    well it'll never come close to what it was - Greed ruins everything

    • @mpa7056
      @mpa7056 Рік тому +2

      And woke bubba bullish!t

  • @ReverendBrown.
    @ReverendBrown. Рік тому +7

    ESPN did a great doc on Richmond but I can’t believe no Hollywood studio hasn’t at least thought about doing a movie on his life. I’m not talking Days of Thunder crap. I’m talking a full fledged Tim Richmond bio pic. It would make a great flick. So, with that being said, who plays Richmond in the movie? Any thoughts?

    • @kenpumphrey8384
      @kenpumphrey8384 Рік тому +1

      Most of the public would say Tim who? A 1980s NASCAR driver that only had a couple years toward the top of the sport doesn't leave a lasting impression beyond us old farts that watched the sport 40 years ago. Definitely not a candidate for a movie.

    • @ReverendBrown.
      @ReverendBrown. Рік тому +6

      @@kenpumphrey8384 How many people knew who James Hunt was? Rush was an excellent movie. The same can be done with Richmond’s life.

    • @mattfulmer4243
      @mattfulmer4243 Рік тому +4

      @@kenpumphrey8384 The same could be said about Ford vs Ferrari, yet it turned out to be a very popular and well received movie.

  • @bobbytalbot4803
    @bobbytalbot4803 9 місяців тому +1

    Tim Richmond was one of most talented drivers in the same Class as Dale Earnhardt Sr. NASCAR needed to stop being so hard on Tim for every little infraction ⏱️

  • @righty-o3585
    @righty-o3585 Рік тому +3

    The fact that they could bullshit like..... I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY YOU STOPPED...... Is astonishing

  • @kerrytodd3753
    @kerrytodd3753 Рік тому +5

    NASCAR has been a mess since the beginning…..how could one family control such bullshit. Ain’t watched it since ‘90…..all corporate now and ruined

  • @Dogman36
    @Dogman36 Рік тому +4

    hes got some "f*ckin choice words" for em it seems

  • @blakejohnson6923
    @blakejohnson6923 Рік тому +5

    Kyle Busch has Tim Richmond tendencies... At least young KB did

  • @bobbytalbot4803
    @bobbytalbot4803 2 місяці тому

    NASCAR had it out for Tim Richmond. He was a free spirit. They shouldn't have treated him that way.😎

  • @danfarris135
    @danfarris135 Рік тому +14

    A big what could have been. Alan, Tim, Davey, and Adam. We probably lost some of the best up and coming stars all within a few years. 🥲

    • @ronfox5519
      @ronfox5519 Рік тому +3

      For sure. A huge hit to the sport.

    • @CrashD3884
      @CrashD3884 Рік тому +2

      Ernie Irvin was doing good in 1994 before his wreck messed him up, may have won the title that year.

  • @dand3975
    @dand3975 Рік тому +4

    After this clip of the race ended didn't Tim Richmond pull in the Garage and quit the race, to show belligerence to NASCAR officials?

    • @patrickvolk7031
      @patrickvolk7031 Рік тому +1

      I thought if you got the black and white stripe, they no longer scored you (you are DQ'ed). I was expecting he would've had to park it. You're going to get in trouble if you ignore flags, they are for safety, even if there is a screw up. They can correct a lap penalty (allow the car to do a drive-by, which I think I've seen them do), but if you take it out of their hands.

    • @richardstephens5570
      @richardstephens5570 5 місяців тому

      No, Richmond did not quit the race. He finished 3 laps down in 11th place.

  • @joenorris8220
    @joenorris8220 Рік тому +2

    I've heard that NASCAR's rule book is written in pencil, so they can change rules during the season.

    • @CadillacToothdeville
      @CadillacToothdeville Рік тому +2

      During each race...

    • @joenorris8220
      @joenorris8220 Рік тому

      @@CadillacToothdeville That too.

    • @clintonlamar1503
      @clintonlamar1503 Рік тому +2

      You mean during the race.

    • @WormdrivE66
      @WormdrivE66 Рік тому +1

      They need to throw away the rule book. Give every driver a long block and a set of tires. May the Best Man Win. That would bring back the fans.

  • @fcaughli
    @fcaughli Рік тому +1

    Kind of a wild day for Tim

  • @apointtomake1517
    @apointtomake1517 Рік тому +1

    "His passion" No, it is the actions of a spoiled kid that just grew older, not up.

  • @markwaschke1635
    @markwaschke1635 8 місяців тому

    Tim Richmond was an awesome driver. Im quite sure Days Of Thunder was about him

  • @larsbambi1575
    @larsbambi1575 Рік тому +1

    Dale Earnhardt senior head respect for Tim.. that says a lot ,he didn't respect very many racers

  • @youtubeviewer6499
    @youtubeviewer6499 Рік тому +3

    I hate Nascar rules they are way too strict and that is why I don't much watch Nascar anymore!

  • @jamesholcombe435
    @jamesholcombe435 Рік тому +1

    Nascar was very wrong in how they treated Tim in his career

  • @mrsteve4313
    @mrsteve4313 Рік тому

    Don't allow yourself to be frustrated when naSCar says you're not winning today, even though you were good enough too.

  • @operatoncreation6396
    @operatoncreation6396 Рік тому +2

    when the sport started to die, fans left...

  • @craigdombrowski7047
    @craigdombrowski7047 Рік тому +2

    Nascar always finds a way to ruin car racing and make it boring ! Like playing a rubix cube thats all one color

  • @stevemiller3187
    @stevemiller3187 Місяць тому

    " I AM NOT DALE EARNHARDT SR.

  • @retiredmom9049
    @retiredmom9049 10 місяців тому

    NASCAR not only treated Tim bad but told other racers they were not to visit him in hospital. Plus they treated Tim’s dad like a dog and he wasn’t excepted at races after his death.

  • @specialkalberta
    @specialkalberta Рік тому

    I don't understand what this has to do with Mad magazine artist Tom Richmond.

  • @davidvanzant2019
    @davidvanzant2019 Рік тому +1

    Wow him and dale what might have been wow 😮

  • @spg1026
    @spg1026 Рік тому

    NASCRAP for sure. Tim Richmond wasn’t one of the ones that was supposed to win or even be in NASCAR. Certainly not one of the good ol’ boys. I’m an Earnhardt guy (both) but man it just seemed like overall Richmond wasn’t treated right. Not just this race but overall; especially at the end.
    I didn’t into NASCAR until the 90’s but I have to think I would rooted for Richmond.

  • @gaetanodetorrice5555
    @gaetanodetorrice5555 Місяць тому

    If Tim Richmond stayed alive and didn't pass away he would have been just as popular as Dale Earnhardt or even more popular 👍👍👍❤❤

  • @ramlinman2004
    @ramlinman2004 Рік тому +5

    Richmond had cool 😎

  • @matismf
    @matismf Рік тому +1

    If only he had a darker complexion, everything would be fine!

  • @user-gq2ep3sp9k
    @user-gq2ep3sp9k 5 місяців тому

    Just like every series or race track they have the ones they like and the ones they don’t that’s why local racing is going down the toilet 😡

  • @brandonenglund7516
    @brandonenglund7516 9 місяців тому

    Should have parked it on the front stretch under the flag stand and walked away.

  • @Digger818
    @Digger818 Рік тому +1

    NASCAR, consistently inconsistent since 1948

  • @blakebreckenridge
    @blakebreckenridge Рік тому

    Just typical NASCAR playing favorites.

  • @JohnBeckner-tv8ug
    @JohnBeckner-tv8ug 9 місяців тому +1

    It's 2023 it not be around much longer

  • @chadmears136
    @chadmears136 8 місяців тому +1

    Damn Shame the Aids virus got Tim. RIP ❤

  • @simr7856
    @simr7856 Рік тому +16

    ..because during this time, he is suspected of possible drug abuse. said by Richard Petty. Nascar began to mess with tim and his team frequently. petty and earnhardt both had something to say about it. yes even dale back crawled, kind of weird thinking back..at how dale befriended tim richmond, then turned his back on him. then...when they found out he had HIV..Nascar and drivers were doing everything thing they could to distance themselves from tim richmond. this is one of them times at the beginning of the harassment. Tim Richmonds problem was he whored around way to much with the party crowd,and thats what was his stumbling block..drivers all knew this, and owners of teams. i believe some nasty skank with hiv, was paid to have sex with tim. to take him out. Richmonds wins, and top 5 finishes were adding up...he was in contention for the Championship..but was an embarrassment. then Whamy. it all came crashing down that fast. Nascar implicated Richmond and had a special drug advisor Dr Forest Tennant create a drug policy with Richmond in mind. Tennant later confesses that Nascar planed this all along. to ban richmond form nascar racing.

    • @toyman81
      @toyman81 Рік тому +3

      If the story is true, then this just puts Nascar Lower on the list for me then it already is. True he should not have done what he did, but sadly he paid the ultimate price and I know one girlfriend also.

    • @DIARRHEA-PANIC
      @DIARRHEA-PANIC Рік тому +6

      Most of this has been verified

    • @haworthlowell805
      @haworthlowell805 Рік тому +7

      NASCAR is the biggest joke in Motorsports!

    • @danielmoose1273
      @danielmoose1273 Рік тому +4

      F NASCAR ...

    • @Slinger43
      @Slinger43 Рік тому +8

      Most of what you stated is true ( probably all of it, but the set-up part would be near impossible to prove ) & while I loved Tim Richmond, I alway's totally understood Richard Petty's grievance with Tim. For decades already in that era, driver's took they're lives in their hand's everytime they crawled thru the window of those fire breathing death traps! None, not one ( well maybe DK ) ever wanted to be on-track racing anyone who may be on drug's & let's face it, Tim alway's looked to be having a "real good" time. Tim took the vow to his grave, that he never did cocaine & since no one, not The King, nor NASCAR EVER PROVED otherwise, I'll take Richmond's word for it, but I totally got where Richard was coming from 🙏 RIP TR, for you are LEGEND ✝️ As for Earnhardt, there was a HUGE difference between the guy you saw on TV & the REAL guy when no one was watch'n. The few guy's that could match Sr's Wheelman talent had aged out by 1985, Petty, Pearson, Allison & Cale could all match Dale in their prime, but by 85 only Tim could look The Intimidator dead in his eye & not blink, Dale Sr absolutely knew that, so I certainly believe there is some merit to what you say concerning Dale.

  • @KM-qx6nh
    @KM-qx6nh 5 місяців тому

    Don’t even care about the situation…… it was great to just see real cars racing again instead of the fake shit they run now.

  • @gilligan369
    @gilligan369 Рік тому

    I was there, they did him wrong.

  • @michaelchamberlain1688
    @michaelchamberlain1688 9 місяців тому

    The C in Nascar stands for Cautions or commercials, or crooks,?😂😂

  • @NPC-Gamer
    @NPC-Gamer Рік тому +1

    Unrelated, but I'm the 1000th subscriber !

  • @davidvanzant2019
    @davidvanzant2019 Рік тому

    Too jealous nascar couldn’t stand a outside guy come in and beat us good oboy

  • @windwalker316
    @windwalker316 Рік тому

    Poster boy of nascar payback

  • @georgew.5639
    @georgew.5639 Рік тому

    I don’t watch nascar anymore. I’m not interested. The way it used to be is not what it is today. Quite frankly he probably should have just parked the car for the day in protest.

  • @johnnybbgunner2136
    @johnnybbgunner2136 Рік тому

    I remember.🇺🇸

  • @JohnBeckner-tv8ug
    @JohnBeckner-tv8ug 9 місяців тому

    Nascar is going down hill 😞 might not be nascar racing in the future 😮

  • @kenbrowning5793
    @kenbrowning5793 Рік тому +2

    I was a fan for years Until they went woke

  • @Noone-dy7sh
    @Noone-dy7sh Рік тому

    F NASCAR

  • @bobbydavis3723
    @bobbydavis3723 Рік тому

    Nastycar

  • @bbrcummins1984
    @bbrcummins1984 Рік тому +2

    No boy buns and skinny jeans.

    • @fathermetalASMR
      @fathermetalASMR Рік тому

      Not sure what that has to do with anything but if it makes you feel like a tough guy for saying it then good for you.

    • @SuperNoticer
      @SuperNoticer Рік тому +1

      @@fathermetalASMR Found the soy boy

  • @coyboybc
    @coyboybc Рік тому

    Tim Richmond was better than the 3 turd driver ! NASCAR continues to totally suck and that’s why the non sport continues to decline and the crowds do too! Eranfart was pumped up by the nascar heads and Tim Was better and was never intimidated by the 3rd turd car or driver ! The last time I actually saw a race on tv the place was not sold out and many seats were empty!

    • @CBright7831
      @CBright7831 Рік тому +3

      “Earnfart” Are you six years old because that’s the kind of insult I would expect from someone at that age. Need I remind you when NASCAR was giving Tim all kinds of grief in 1988, the only driver that stuck up for him, and spoke on his behalf was Dale Earnhardt.

  • @Desert_Ratt
    @Desert_Ratt Рік тому

    I would of reved my engine the whole time

  • @steveroeder5361
    @steveroeder5361 5 місяців тому

    NASCAR sucks

  • @onesecureone
    @onesecureone Рік тому

    Tim Richmond maybe the only driver almost as good as me

  • @RollerCoasterLineProductions
    @RollerCoasterLineProductions 4 місяці тому

    This is how NASCAR fixes the outcome of races with children running the show.

  • @WAYUPDUDE1382
    @WAYUPDUDE1382 9 місяців тому

    Tim loved that poon tang and thats what got him in trouble!

  • @philobobcat3495
    @philobobcat3495 Рік тому +9

    Ivermectin would have saved Tim. $12