they're all content creators so this is a rather rational choice. It was clear from the end game stats so between getting more views and losing fans it was clear what to do. Wam still a chad to me through and through.
Multimillion dollar RTS AAA game with no reconnect feature is actually embarrasing AF. Like are you this lazy devs? Never gonna be a competitive game then
Wam did a good thing, he's not like his brother. Pp was crying bc no one was attacking beasty, but he was happy when the entire lobby ignored him for 40 games.
when you're trying to win and needed that sliver of hope to become the 3 times champ, you'd be desperate. PP understands that too and stopped after venting it out. Just another human like us.
jeeeeeez the disconnect was so unfortunate, I feel like wam had a chance there in the last fight...The odds were very low tho... Because of that I pay absolutely respect for wam to give the win to beasty, an absolutely gentleman there 👏👏
Puppypaw next game, gets 1st blood. Then denies all other players from killing each other, drops wonder, then starts taking them all out. Thats a game I want to see lol.
According to the rule, Wam should have won this game. Consolation points can be awarded to Beasty depending on admin's consideration but the game continues, and with 1 player remaining Wam take the win. Rules are made because of cases like this.
is there a reason why civs, especially the byzantines dump very heavy into longbowmen despite them being shit mid to late game for them? Like pretty much every civ either specs really hard into heavy horsemen/infantry or are the english and would outclass their bowmen anyways, I understand its olive oil as a side product of food production but it just seems smarter to save your olive oil for age 4 strelsi or compenstate the lack of spears with lansknecht to serve as a stop gap buffer and focus on ageing up as soon as possible (be that pulling vills off food for other production areas, or saving your food by not buying spearmen and just olive oil units to fill the gap so you can quickly age up) it seems so many players with a fighting chance that just face a big enemy army that they know is their threat blow all their food on basic units that are still age 3 instead of trying to hit an age up to at least make the enemy player pause if not have enough time to get critical upgrades so you arent completely outclassed dps wise by the enemy army. Byzantines especially considering they can sell olive oil so a market would be worth it due to your good units being so gold hungry, idk maybe im just monday morning quarterbacking but I see so many games where a player for byzantines especially decides to pump out 4 more batches of age 3 longbowmen when they are facing down men at arms or heavy cav instead of trying to sell into a quicker imp and or buying cataphracts or varangians to try to hold the tide. With how little damage they do I always cringe when I see a dude surrounded by imp players still pumping out longbows and just get run over as they only kill 1 unit a volley and the front line of melee is way too thin to support such low kps
Selling oil for fast imp means you have no resources when you hit imp. Takes way too long to make any use of the age up. You will just die. Look at marine lord this game. He had better eco and could have lived but puppy killed him because he aged up with no units.
Replay as a 1v1? Very good of Wam but players gotta earn their points! Edit: Also not right to rob Beasty of a deserved victory, he’ll always have this hanging over him haha
honestly this year i stopped watching the octagon after making the mistake of reading all angry comments under the video. They took the fun of the tournament out of me. Really, you all should start enjoying this as a fun tournament. All these angry comments are horrible to read. I mean, look at t90s community's cup: it's a for-fun tournament where all kind of bullshit happens. It's pros and community players, so ofc communication is important. But I've never seen the toxic drama that i see under aussie's OO video. EDIT: also, AoE2 tbh is more enjoyable in diplomatic matches cause the viewers can always see the chat and they have a damn reconnect. It's insane that AoE4 doesn't have any of those 2 features.
Were we watching the same game? Beasty had a 100 pop advantage. Wam had to delete vills to get his army count up so after that battle, he wouldn’t have been able to keep up. Props to Wam. I really respect his sportsmanship here.
This is all your doing Drongo: out of 50 games or so Beasty wins one game and gets 15 points in finals and with this lucky spawns secures the first place. The scoring rules needs to be changed especially for the sacred site victory which let Beasty get 15 points in the last game. Why would it matter if you are passive defending or active defending (attacking and killing other players), a win should get at most 8 points, plus kills (through sacred site or through military)
Crash stinks..... 99% chance of victory and POOF... gone, No matter WHAT the you do SOMEONE is going to be upset.. but yea.. maby wam has 10% chance for one overwhelming push after deleting the vils but at that point hes got so much production, the relics.. keeps.. like it was a very long shot. STUPID GAME.. STUPID CRASHES.
Good on Wam for giving the nod to beasty there. But man am I bummed we didn't get to see that epic battle.
Man, Wam01 is to be admired indeed. Chad as fuck.
they're all content creators so this is a rather rational choice. It was clear from the end game stats so between getting more views and losing fans it was clear what to do. Wam still a chad to me through and through.
Wam just went up in my books, fair play to him
omg devs, can we PLEASE have resume from replay and/or reconnect? Executives, if you're reading this, it's a highly requested feature.
yes just for fun
Mad respect to Wam for acknowledging that Beasty was ahead rather than take advantage of a game crash!
What's the time on that?
I am a beasty supporter. But WAM is the man of the match. gg
God I love reading MarineLords banter in chat LMAOOO
Unfortunate, but at least the outcome was foreseeable. 350 pop, strong economy, and what was essentially a concession by Wam. Congrats to Beasty
yeah 100pop up, 9 relics and prolly the strongest lategame army in the game.
hard to say the odds were in his favor
Wam is so fucking classy for that! Respect
i mean, at least they are fair. So sad this crashes happens so often.
Max respect to Wam.
fair sportsmanship
This game was like watching the season Finale of Season 2 for the House of the Dragon
Fair call from Wam there, he was not going to win in a head to head, would have liked to have seen him get a point considering
The chat has been so funny last few games
ML ❤
i Love how puppypaw got so upset when what happens to beasty happens to him xDD
MarineLord could have drop a berkshire palace and completely ruin Puppypaw, instead he went for a random wynguard that did absolutely nothing
Good sportsmanship from Wam. It was the right thing to do.
Amazing sportsmanship from Wam, big respect.
40:00 what a play by beasty
Game chat absolutely roasting chat early I love it 😂
Multimillion dollar RTS AAA game with no reconnect feature is actually embarrasing AF. Like are you this lazy devs? Never gonna be a competitive game then
Wam did a good thing, he's not like his brother. Pp was crying bc no one was attacking beasty, but he was happy when the entire lobby ignored him for 40 games.
when you're trying to win and needed that sliver of hope to become the 3 times champ, you'd be desperate. PP understands that too and stopped after venting it out. Just another human like us.
Respect for wam if that was MLord there woulda been yappin
ML would be yappin but it be funny AF
Puppypaw when he doesn't get a booming civ with nobody around him but 7 relics :
"Why is nobody attacking him, i'm so confused"
Eschatology is the study of the end of the world from Greek ἔσχᾰτος eschatos (last). Earliest eschatology is Zoroaster 1500-500 BCE. So there…
Im a beasty supporter but wam showed crazy sportmanship w
Love seeing marinelord's chats in game always picking fights and throwing shades lol
44:07 Candour is the word I'd use. GG well played.
Respect for Wam! Sportsmanship bro!! Gg
Wam is a true gamer! Huuuuge respect! It is the correct decision by him, but it still takes courage to accept it and declare it as such. Kudos!
I have an MA in Theology and was shocked you knew what eschatology meant when you first said it
God I love Wam!!! Giving the win to Beasty due to the mishap and being sportsman MVP of this tourny!!!
Wam01, Great Sportsmanship ! What a Guy !
Probably due to players still in the lobby from different countries. Happened when Ano DC from the match
Wam has a huge fairplay thank you !
Well played wam
What sportsmanship from Wam01!
wam the gigachad
jeeeeeez the disconnect was so unfortunate, I feel like wam had a chance there in the last fight...The odds were very low tho... Because of that I pay absolutely respect for wam to give the win to beasty, an absolutely gentleman there 👏👏
Respect to Wam. A true gentleman.
very anticlimax ending but good job beasty
there's a reason he was being called out every game 😂
I think Wam should've stayed on his and kept the points. It'd make the finals a lot more competitive
Thanks to Wam for the great sportsmanship! Grade A move.
Puppypaw next game, gets 1st blood. Then denies all other players from killing each other, drops wonder, then starts taking them all out. Thats a game I want to see lol.
prolly not gonna happen man
Now I really want to know how eschatology was brought up, lol.
According to the rule, Wam should have won this game. Consolation points can be awarded to Beasty depending on admin's consideration but the game continues, and with 1 player remaining Wam take the win. Rules are made because of cases like this.
Wam01, what a guy! Pity we didn’t get the final big battle.
For finals should hve made the civ deciding bot prevent people from getting the same civ twice given its only 5 games
@44:52 bittersweet
Beasty had that game for sure huge respect to WAM but that is a class act
It’s kind of crazy this game does not have a reconnect feature.
Wam is a good professional right there
Wam - "Team me apes" legend
Wam goated for fairplay, sucks we couldnt see the fight tho
can we reset and see how that would play......
is there a reason why civs, especially the byzantines dump very heavy into longbowmen despite them being shit mid to late game for them? Like pretty much every civ either specs really hard into heavy horsemen/infantry or are the english and would outclass their bowmen anyways, I understand its olive oil as a side product of food production but it just seems smarter to save your olive oil for age 4 strelsi or compenstate the lack of spears with lansknecht to serve as a stop gap buffer and focus on ageing up as soon as possible (be that pulling vills off food for other production areas, or saving your food by not buying spearmen and just olive oil units to fill the gap so you can quickly age up) it seems so many players with a fighting chance that just face a big enemy army that they know is their threat blow all their food on basic units that are still age 3 instead of trying to hit an age up to at least make the enemy player pause if not have enough time to get critical upgrades so you arent completely outclassed dps wise by the enemy army. Byzantines especially considering they can sell olive oil so a market would be worth it due to your good units being so gold hungry, idk maybe im just monday morning quarterbacking but I see so many games where a player for byzantines especially decides to pump out 4 more batches of age 3 longbowmen when they are facing down men at arms or heavy cav instead of trying to sell into a quicker imp and or buying cataphracts or varangians to try to hold the tide. With how little damage they do I always cringe when I see a dude surrounded by imp players still pumping out longbows and just get run over as they only kill 1 unit a volley and the front line of melee is way too thin to support such low kps
Selling oil for fast imp means you have no resources when you hit imp. Takes way too long to make any use of the age up. You will just die. Look at marine lord this game. He had better eco and could have lived but puppy killed him because he aged up with no units.
LMAO that anticlimatic ending.
Sheep donation was really low from him, and everyone was mad. But, now I can forgive him. All cool!
Good guy Wam. He might like to trade, but that is awesome. Thank you Wam!
The chat is always hilarious lol so much trash talk 😂
Let's just give the match to the point leader rofl, have to agree with Puppy on that one.
Replay as a 1v1? Very good of Wam but players gotta earn their points!
Edit: Also not right to rob Beasty of a deserved victory, he’ll always have this hanging over him haha
So sad that this game crashes so often
I will support Wam in all the future games.
Wham is the man of the game!
Very DBZesque... find out next time on Outback Octagon 3!
Wam!!!!!! Thank you❤
It was about to get real good!
🙁
honestly this year i stopped watching the octagon after making the mistake of reading all angry comments under the video. They took the fun of the tournament out of me. Really, you all should start enjoying this as a fun tournament. All these angry comments are horrible to read.
I mean, look at t90s community's cup: it's a for-fun tournament where all kind of bullshit happens. It's pros and community players, so ofc communication is important.
But I've never seen the toxic drama that i see under aussie's OO video.
EDIT: also, AoE2 tbh is more enjoyable in diplomatic matches cause the viewers can always see the chat and they have a damn reconnect. It's insane that AoE4 doesn't have any of those 2 features.
No way Wam is not the winner in this situation
Were we watching the same game? Beasty had a 100 pop advantage. Wam had to delete vills to get his army count up so after that battle, he wouldn’t have been able to keep up.
Props to Wam. I really respect his sportsmanship here.
There's always one
wam on top
What a shame.
But Awesome action - I think the outcome is fair.
Wam an actually chad. The only thing is he gave points to crybaby beasty...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO beasty
Spoil protection
is the game this bad optimized? cuz i see like every 3 games a crash lmao
CHAD WAM
😂😂😂😂❤
MarineLord is the crybaby
W am
Wam much respect and fair sportsmanship ❤
Beasty's so toxic as a person I have no sympathy for him crashing anyway
order is the worst civ rn
aoe4 is a big piece bug-shit!🤬 Wam your are great 🙏
This is all your doing Drongo: out of 50 games or so Beasty wins one game and gets 15 points in finals and with this lucky spawns secures the first place. The scoring rules needs to be changed especially for the sacred site victory which let Beasty get 15 points in the last game. Why would it matter if you are passive defending or active defending (attacking and killing other players), a win should get at most 8 points, plus kills (through sacred site or through military)
Crash stinks..... 99% chance of victory and POOF... gone, No matter WHAT the you do SOMEONE is going to be upset.. but yea.. maby wam has 10% chance for one overwhelming push after deleting the vils but at that point hes got so much production, the relics.. keeps.. like it was a very long shot. STUPID GAME.. STUPID CRASHES.
Tbh there should be a rule against killing a dead king from someone you didn't kill
Nah it's fair play. Especially since any player can get the leftover king
What??? Why?