GOP Creeps FREAK Over Absurd Olympic Boxing 'Controversy'
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No wonder they keep asking what a woman is. They genuinely don't know.
Cats =girls and dogs= boys
Was gonna say the same thing. Every time they say "define a woman", tell them to explain this situation first.
@@smokehouse420-x9k Don't be weird.
@@smokehouse420-x9kthat’s not what happened, and the adults are talking shhsh
Comment of the year
The "we can always tell" crowd, shockingly, can never tell
LITERALLY N E V E R
Do u DemCorp spawns know he has XY Chromosomes?
@@MentallyLibtarded
That's actually not at all known
Even so let's say you have a daughter born with the right parts and then some day a chromosomal test shows you her chromosomes are XY. Is she now no longer your daughter?
@@MentallyLibtardedsome women are born with Xy & vice versa also for men. 🤷🏻♀️
@@berjanbeen7188how do DemCorp servants NEVER have the info thats available when we always do? U went on with Fine People and R collusion for 5 years 😂
The "America first" crowd needs the vice president of America to focus on a boxing match between athletes from Algeria and Italy right now!
Ha!! Very good point!
the america first crowd is donating money to italian athletes because she cried after getting in the ring and losing . Meanwhile simone biles is still being criticized for dropping out when she literally couldn’t see straight
She's had 51 fights, 9 losses , 6 wins by ko.
Hardly the record of someone who entirely dominates her fights. I'm not an expert in boxing but there were not that many hard hits on either side.
In my opinion, the Italian boxer, Carini, already had her mind made up that she would quit during the match. It was all for show. Take a few hits, throw in the towel, and then cry in the ring. Her plan worked perfectly bc now Khalif is being shamed on a daily basis, and Carini is made to look like the innocent, mistreated boxer.
5 wins by KO out of 37 total wins means very little power. This whole narrative that she has man strength is laughable. That Italian was just a bad boxer who quit and then cried.
@@SteveMKoch don't blame the Italian girl for this, she never asked for people to attack her opponent.
@@speedy01247 🔹️She said something about it being 'unjust'... unless she was talking about her defense of her nose.
@@Doughboy1943 you clearly dont understand where punch power comes from
I think we can agree that this "transvestigation" stuff is more right wing weirdness.
They're sooooooo weird
She had XY (Male) chromosomes... and could be from Hormone therapy.
Testosterone or other DNA /hormone therapy should be Banned-- like Steroids..
@@kosh9639 Hormones could transform all your paternal x chromosomes into y chromosomes? I don't think you even know what a chromosome is.
@@kosh9639
Even the IBA doesn't actually say that. They seem to be implying something like that, but for an organization that apparently tested them they are very coy about what actually the test were and their findings.
They also only banned them last year, meaning they were passing their participation criteria in the years before that, just fine.
@@kosh9639The results aren't public so you are taking information from a Russian source that's not verified.
I feel like this is subtly racist too. There’s a history of portraying non European women as ‘masculine’ just because they have different facial features etc.
Wrote this before they mentioned it 😂
Absolutely. 🎯🎯🎯
It’s not. This person has a Y chromosome. It’s not fair.
I would say the only thing wrong in your statement is that this is "subtle".
@@notaspeck6104 Jesus Christ
10 years ago these same people were probably the ones saying Serena Williams is a man. No, she was just dominant and black. Just because she was whopping all of the Eastern European girls, does not make her a man.
True. But she did have a terrible attitude and her gameplay was boring.
Total reprobates.
That was 100% the right, commenting on big cheekbones and a chunky body. She is clearly different to Caster Semenya for example.
@@user-cr1iz8fw6hwrong and wrong
@@jeffreysharp9925 yeah, I agree, and just because she can beat a bunch of lil' girls at sports doesn't mean she's a real athlete...thanks for agreeing with me civilly.
It's clearly lost on them that they are convinced a woman is a man because of nothing but how they perceive them, whilst insisting that gender affirming care doesn't make a man a woman.
She's not a transsexual.
@@cassandratq9301 you really using 1990s words? Come on.
Gaslight me more plz LOL
Things lies down on how you define a man or a woman, since there is no exact definition. If someone defines a woman as someone who looks like a woman without undergoing a gender affirming care, then what is your argument against that?
They thinks she's a man because of her haircut.
the amount of bullying to this poor Algerian female boxer from nasty americans and brits must be terrifying for her - the hypocrisy of protecting women but not really
Hopefully she isn't engaging with it
He’s a man ! Stop this Bullshit
I imagine this isn’t new for her in certain international competitions. This has been happening to African women (and others) for a long time, not exclusively to athletes.
@@ElisabeteSuzana which does not make the bullying any better - being bullied for not being accepted who you are - what a disgrace
@@ElisabeteSuzanaNot exclusively towards athletes, but black athletes have it piled on particularly bad.
She said the worst Olympics in history and that makes me wonder if these people don’t know about 1936 or just think it was good
The latter.
or the disastrous 1904 St. Louis olympics even
anyone right of Sanders secretly adores the Nazis
Or Munich 1972?
Of course they don’t know
It makes me happy that J.K. Rowling is an objectively terrible game designer. Quidditch _doesn't_ make sense, and when faithfully translated into video game form, lo and behold, it sucks.
Quidditch does make sense... just needs to be improved upon before it is actually practical.
@@aralornwolf3140 So in other words it doesn't make sense
women and men competing together ... scandalous!
@@dfv2060,
*Sigh*
Practical and making sense are two different words.
The descriptions of the player's roles and the vast majority of the rules are practical. The remainder of the rules make sense while not being practical. Having a game which will continue until someone captures a "flag"... is not practical as the game could end in minutes, or the game can go on for over 3 months....
quidditch isn't practical because u need a magic broomstick.. r u guys for real??
The irony of conservatives literally constructing a gender assumption, whilst claiming that gender is an objective fact… the lack of self-reflection is insane
Valentina Gomez is acting masculine while she criticizes a woman she thinks is masculine.
@@lawrence208 why does it matter? Why do you care so much about how someone defines “women”? Cause sports? LMFAO don’t make me laugh… yall are such clowns
@@lawrence208a woman is someone that finds you personally repulsive, Lawrence.
@@lawrence208 Lawrence, I'll try to explain this in the kindest way possible. Everything in life is on a spectrum, you already experience this and recognize it in many aspects of your life. Gender too is on a spectrum and it is an invention of our society. I'm a 57 year old Midwestern white dude, when I was young we called people tomboy or girly-man, (now I call people what they want to be called, if you are in doubt, just ask). The the only thing different now is people are more accepted as their true selves. That's freedom! It outweighs the window dressing of flags, crosses, and fireworks displays that many consider the pinnacle of American values, freedom.
You or I cannot control how others think or act, there's no point in trying to. Thanks for reading my rambling words, I'd appreciate it if you would consider them. I wish you well.
@@jfu5222 most well spoken shut down on the internet. I salute you.
I love how that 5th place swimmer who TIED a transgender person whines how unfair it is. I don't see the first 4 place finishers complaining
The case that they are talking about in the video has nothing to do with the transgender.
@@erniecolussy1705 Anytime I see 5th place transgender hater chick(i forget her name), I just have to point that out.
Let's be honest here what is her claim to fame that she tied a transgender person and whines about it all the time, while 4 other females beat both of them
Yup, she couldn't gain fame via swimming, so she decided to gain fame by bashing transgender people. Gross.
@@erniecolussy1705 she is literally in the video
Well, makes her a lot of woman being hateful. Thats all it is.
Me, when I’m in an Olympic boxing match and my opponent punches me hard in the face: *shocked pikachu*
Right wingers would win every medal until the end of time in Olympic level Mental Gymnastics.
The Italian boxer got it into her head that she was fighting an invincible opponent and quit before even walking into the ring. Her invincible opponent has lost to 9 different women
Imagine how she would have reacted if she tried to fight the women that beat her
Or maybe she took a dive for gamblers
Defeated herself.
And only had 5 KOs in 37 wins, so very little power.
If you look at her career, she was beaten early in career at lower weights by experienced fighters, probably due to the relatively shallow pool of 5'10 women boxers. As she got older she increased her weight and found success. If she was born in the US there would have been plenty of fighters at all weights to compete with and better training.
Rowling forgot her silly little "sport" had boys and girls playing together...
What do you expect from someone who makes up a rule that breaks the entire sport.
Freaking Muggles, man
@@TheIrland09?
@@OscarLangleySoryuthe snitch in quidditch is incredibly stupid. The rest of the game - which is fun - is rendered totally insignificant compared to the seekers.
@@DoctorWhoBlueIt would be like having a guy running around the football stadium with a beer, and each team having someone chasing him, the game ending if someone catches him, all the while a regular football game is going on. It really is next level stupid.
I would like to add the following to this discussion that is never addressed: Lionel Messi was created in a lab. He had a team of scientists and doctors around him through this childhood and adolescence with growth hormones, bettering bone density, all kinds of treatments which made of him the best football player of the world. But no one would come up with the idea of disqualifying him for an “unfair” advantage.
The funniest thing of that is messi is kind of a twink.
Also Michael Phelps just kind of being some one in eight billion half-fish superhero for... Some reason.
@@FelisImpurrator would have been my second example ;)
@@FelisImpurrator Eddie Hall having a rare genetic condition that removes the muscle building limiter from his body, allowing him to put a lot more muscle than any unenhanced athlete out there. Francis Ngannou having 2 Artillery cannons for arms in MMA. And you know what's the funny part? These men are celebrated, not mocked, not criticised, celebrated. Ngannou could legitimately end someone's life in the ring, but everyone is like "Woooow that's cool!".
Let’s not be ableist here. Messi was a disabled child gifted in football. The growth hormones were because he had a deficiency, have why he’s only average height after all of that treatment.
If male boxers were actually beating up women boxers , JD Vance would want the women to fight on. You know, for the kids.
Lol
My question is why do they care? That has nothing to do with the issues here in the country. All they do is complain about nonsense
I would ask Jesse Waters what does this boxing match have to do with the price of eggs or a gallon of gas.
WTF I was lifting when the F-slur dropped and I almost dropped my weights in shock.
What slur oh wait your probably from California with controlled speech. We say what we want here in Florida.
@@killerjase1you speak with little empathy, and it comes off boastful and foolish
Twitter pretty much has a 100% tolerance policy for slurs in its platform now
@@killerjase1 A slur is a slur no matter where its said, you knob.
@@killerjase1So, you have never been anywhere and love Florida. You know literally everyone thinks you are stupid, right?
The "wE cAn aLwAYS teLl" crowd strikes again
Valentina Gomez has not been elected to any office at the time of this video. She is a 24-year-old "financial strategist" running in the GOP primary for Secretary of State. She doesn't even have a Wikipedia article.
She’s certainly showing her MAGA creds!
Any POC who traffics in maga just doesn't understand they will end up getting the same treatment as non maga once the dust settles
You are correct, she is saying she is the 41st SOS because she would be if she won GOP primary and then the general election.
Primary is on Tues. Aug 6, so we will see what % she gets. I'll be voting on the Dem ticket even though Dems basically cannot win statewide in Missouri anymore.
Just a reminder, Obama lost Missouri by less than 1% in 2008. But center dem Claire McCaskill (incumbent) lost by 5ish % in 2018.
Missouri is full of weirdos who constantly vote against their own interests.
As an Algerian, i am genuinely scared for imane, Algeria is a country that outlaws transitioning and anything LGBT related, these claims can be literally dangerous for her life!
The Algerian people are very supportive of her. The danger for this beautiful athlete does not come from her country of origin but from the hypocrites in the west. She has been smeared by the bigoted western media and western politicians.
Also the Quarterback is doing something WITH THEIR TEAM! Quidditch is like having a soccer game but there is one player from each team trying to find a penny hidden in the grass and whoever does their team wins fifteen points and immediately ends the game.
The gender test for women in sports is so ridiculous. By th3 same standard, Michael Phelps wouldnt be allowed to swim because he was born with multiple genetic advantages for a swimmer and trained the shit out of his body to be the best at swimming. Let the women compete!!
nonono this suspicion doesn't work for white men don't be silly
yeah theres already rules in place lmao. Even if you want to argue this boxer is "too manly" the rules are set and shes eligible to compete. The problem is these transphobes will want the rules to keep being changed until the only women that can compete are skinny petite white women. Just like always, its not about fairness in women competition, its just pure hatred for anyone that doesn't pass their vibe check.
I had my a$$ handed to me several times in basketball by biological women who had a foot on me and twice my weight. I am 5ft 2 so it was also harder for them to steal the ball from me. I was also faster than anyone else. Sports are just inherently unfair.
Between the Algerian boxer & that American women’s Rugby player, Conservatives have been extra weird this Olympics in regards to women athletes
Because they have to distract from trimp's weirdness.
Conservatives have always been weird.
"Fun" fact for JK Rowling: Menopause is another condition which causes women to not have the typical hormone levels of the average woman. So, if we used that as the standard, then a certain author would be considered a man as well.
Whoopsie!
Can confirm!
The best part about republicans freaking out about this nothingness is that it’s not even anything to do with the USA
Didn't we JUST talk about how these people are weird?????
They're practically doing the job for us
@@HeyGuy4321
Again the only time she apparently didn't meet the criteria for competing was in the IBA organized world series, when she was nearing a medal. They did the same for another woman. Strangely enough this helped two Russian boxers win. How odd for that Russian backed boxing organization.
Men thinking they can become women is really weird.
These people just hate. They hate anyone who is different. They're so violent.
Nazis always are.
There’s lots of them in these comments.
They love to hate.
J K Rowling is violent because she wants to protect biological women?
They’re psychopaths
Just to be clear, Carini didn't "FaceTime" her father. Her father had recently passed away in 2021. Either way, the anti-Imane bigotry and disinformation has infuriated me and broken my heart. Fuck JK Rowling, Elon Musk, Tate, Paul, etc.
It's almost like the biological paradigm of male/female has exceptions and nuances, which makes it impossible to define the two with one singular, all-encompassing definition.
Whaaaaaaaa??? Boy have peepee! Girl have hoo-hah! That's just science!
- 4th-grade dropout State Representative
They also cry "oh all these new woke words" when the term intersex is about a century old. 😂
We still have to deal with men and women as the nly two categories in sports
@@quakers200 Whats your point?
@@Knight-Bishop And singular they/them has been used since the 1500s. 😂 They dont have a clue.
Rightwingers definitely beating the weird allegations now right?....Right?
@@HeyGuy4321
But they are weird. They've been weird for quite a while now.
@@HeyGuy4321 yeah - we should call them cr33ps
They seem to have responded by slamming their foot down on the accelerator and going 'You want weird? I'LL GIVE YOU WEIRD'
If you don't want to get punched, don't be a boxer. If you're a boxer, don't cry about getting punched.
Nah... you can cry when someone breaks something. The boxer who lost didn't want the other lady kicked out etc That was right wing misinfo
@@CompComp thanks for correcting me.
@@HeyGuy4321
Actually she was still recovering from a broken nose and I think she might not have healed enough when she was hit in the face.
She decided she had to quit and quite early at that, which means an end to her Olympic dream, which is a pretty good reason to cry.
Are you suggesting Women's Sports should be Eliminated & They should should complete with Men-- If, women want a Medal??🏅
because, Everyone has Biological Differences..
@@HeyGuy4321 And how many noses, jaws, and ribs has Mike Tyson broken during his career? How many of those dudes went down crying? 😢
There is a syndrome where in utero, people who have a XY chromosomal makeup have testosterone receptors that are not sensitive to testosterone are are born fully female. The syndrome Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome is rare but may be a lot less rare than we know because not everybody has chromosomal testing at birth. There are well-known people who have always been accepted as female with the syndrome and no one would know it unless they revealed it. The Y chromosome (which CAN confer maleness) has very little genetic material on it and is easily overridden by material on the X chromosome. Fact is, even the most macho men out there start out as female fetuses structurally. A funny thing . If life begins at conception and at conception we are all female then why should it matter what genitalia one has at birth? There is great variation in human gender development and it is not as simple as these uninformed people say. As a physician, I met patients with the syndrome and they were without doubt female.
Hold up. First check the XY claim. IBA only disqualified her in 1 year and refused to provide evidence to back their claim.
I am not endorsing the claim that the two female athletes have XY chromosomal profiles. I’m only providing information about why just looking at chromosomal makeup to determine gender is too simplistic.
They only ask what is a woman who is a woman so they know who's rights to take away.
As we predicted, the hatred of trans women hurts cis women too.
There is one key difference it's *COMBAT SPORTS, COMBAT SPORTS, COMBAT SPORTS, COMBAT SPORTS. COMBAT SPORTS, COMBAT SPORTS, COMBAT SPORTS, COMBAT SPORTS!!* That's the big difference and people can get killed, unlike swimming, running sports. People's lives are on the line so these people NEED TO BE FULLY VETTED AND THEIR HEALTH RECORDS MUST BE PUBLIC. They are not entitled to completely private if they are participating in a publicized sport. This boxer is 100% a male boxer. It's very unlikely he is intersex because he had normal XY chromosomes.
Transvestigations are weird
It's not about protecting women's sports, it's about policing feminine beauty.
Sigh, this audience is trapped in a endless echo chamber, sad really...
@@Christopher-Ali-Abdul-Mutalibt Ok, obvious troll
@@PhilBertran that's all you say here on this channel. Usually that's what happens when someone, like most of the MR audience, is confronted with an idea that they didn't hear bouncing off the wall a dozen times....
@@Christopher-Ali-Abdul-Mutalibt are you getting the attention you need, honey?
@@Christopher-Ali-Abdul-Mutalibt you presented no idea just blah blah echo chamber
No one wants to go down the rabbit hole with the nonsense of right wingers...🤨🤨🤨
Or left wing nonsense
The IBA refused to provide evidence to back their claims of XY chromosomes and strangely only disqualified her for 1 year.
I can’t believe in Quidditch that men and women were allowed to compete together. JK Rowling must be extremely upset at this.
Right? What was Ginny doing on the same team as Harry?
1. Algeria is a socially and religiously (to an extent) conservative muslim country. Maybe not Afghanistan style but still a muslim county.
2. Transgenderism is simply not a thing in Algeria.
3. I literally grew up in Algeria and transitioning isn't a cultural trend. Not even close.
4. There might be algerian transgender people but they'd certainly wouldn't seek any kind of spotlight let alone competing in a world tournament watched by millions.
5. Reading about stuff is good. Knowing things is good. Being full of certainties and oblivious to the rest of the world, other cultures and civilizations might lead to brain damage.
How can they even validate bringing all this hate on an innocent woman? Who are these creeps?
Theyre racist and transphobic and don't care how many cis women of color or trans people are harmed as long as they can protect the fragile white cis women
XY is a man and not a woman
While it is terrible that she has to go through this and hopefully no harm comes to her, this story has global reach and highlights the ridiculousness of the anti-trans movement for more normal folks.
It's worth keeping in mind that Rowling is so transphobic that ELON MUSK suggested she cool it.
Let's just never bring her up, again. She called the book Lolita a LOVE story! 🤦🏻🤮
She's a confused and sad person, who is probably a closeted case, "in some way".
The Algerian boxer lost so I guess they'll just quietly pretend nothing happened until they can accuse someone else of being a man. There was a Taiwanese intersex boxer they will probably go after her next.
Actually the Taiwanese boxer was also a long time boxer who only got banned once from the same tournament after getting a bronze medal.
The IBA had no problem with them before that time and other leagues had no issues either.
@@berjanbeen7188 They banned the Algerian woman after she won against a Russian boxer
@@fatimazahra5174 so just a case of butthurt nationalists.
@@TacticalSanta exactly they said they didn't do a testosterone test , but they did a test , well known test ,yet they refuse to tell us what is this test , or what were the results, the only thing they said is according to this secret test those to boxers were eliminated so basically it's a trust me bro source
@@fatimazahra5174that’s half the story. She was banned just hours before fighting the Chinese for gold and a Taiwanese boxer was retroactively banned and stripped of her bronze medal.
Did Joanne have such strong words to say about the convicted child rapist who was allowed to compete?
She would have to actually care about kids.
Wait what???
Of course. She is reportedly a big fan of Vladimir Nabokov's 'Lolita'.
they love those guys
@@user-pc3we6gf6j Well that's more the generalized impulsive misandry she developed after being abused, not because she actually cares about children.
There's actually no real evidence she even has XY Chromosomes, it's wild.
My research indicates that she s xy. Does not happen very often but one n several thousand xy are women.
Rightwingers doesn't need evidence. If it gives them rage that's all that matters.
(former Republican. Yes, I sucked too. Sorry)
@@lawrence208it’s entirely convoluted and cover up corruption
@@lawrence208
She defeated a Russian boxer and the corrupt IBA (Russian org) overturned the result because of her "test results" that they never released.
@@lawrence208 No. No speculation, no innuendo, no BS. Prove it or shut up.
"What is a woman ?" , turns out was a genuine question
Add what is a man to that because some are calling killer Kyle Rottenhaus a woman now lol
1. Born female. 2. Was 9-5 careerwise. If she was born a male, who cares? It’s not like she’s dominating the scene
Um, apparently women.😅
@@DavidHudgins-pi9nt the op is part of the circus. To not want to protect women from men means u are a super duper weirdo.
She also had only 5 KOs in her career. Zero chance she’s a male
@@ZombieLincoln666 zero huh? Lmao
@@ZombieLincoln666Wait, you're basing your entire take on her gender on her win total?
Fox News disabled comments on their video about this. Gee I wonder why.
The boxer isn't trans. She competed in other boxing events and did poorly.
But, but, she looks like a male, therefore she’s trans! /s
The boxer doesn't need to be trans, they are still male
@@thomasstephen9571 "Women are men." Said the guy who says that the left is confused about gender.
@@thomasstephen9571
@@thomasstephen9571
She is a female!
Unfortunately it’s not just republicans. JK Rowling and Richard Dawkins and various NFL players were attacking this poor woman.
Those two aren't liberal though and have always been transphobic
you named two right wingers
Dawkins is also a eugenics apologist whose beliefs about disabled people aren't all that different from Trump. People need to stop being fans of/ lionizing obsessive cranks.
Unfortunately it’s not just republicans. It’s the exact same terf bigots whom we’ve come to expect to make such takes. Shocker.
@@Knight-BishopHe's disgusting. I wish Stephen Jay Gould was still alive amongst us, and Richard Dawkins was not.
Carini didn't facetime her dad, she showed an old video of him encouraging her. He died shortly after Tokyo Olympics. She was upset because she felt she'd let him down.
I feel that's another angle on how ghoulish the transphobes are, that they are weaponising her tears that didn't come from frustration over her opponent, rather from grief over her father's passing and that she'd promised him she'd not quit again. The "Let Women Speak" crowd not actually listening to the woman's own explanation.
The right wing senator campaign video was my final straw with Twitter. I deleted my account yesterday and it sucks that the right has made social media such a cesspool.
I deleted Twitter yesterday as well. It was just getting too much
I like how they think men and women never spar during training sessions. There was a woman who used to kick my ass when I took Taekwondo.
Does she have XY chromosomes? The only source for this I can find is a very vague claim by the IBA, which I wouldn't count as credible.
The IBA didn’t claim it, the then President of the IBA claimed it on Russian TV. Not credible at all.
A future where one's identity is only accepted after being confirmed through a hormonal test is exactly ghe future transphobes want
There is not credible source on that at all. Just the the russian IBA spreading rumors.
Same, I have heard *zero* credible evidence that she is anything other than XX
The IBA disqualified her in 2023 for having a "genetic advantage," however they did not say what it was, what test they used, or what the results were. The IBA was kicked out of the Olympics for corruption and have grown more corrupt since. They're not reliable and the claims that they proved anything are just straight up false.
It's Caster Semenya all over again. That story broke the first time when I was 19. I was so uncomfortable as a non-binary person. The message was "If you don't fit the binary, we'll make you fit the binary" plus her private medical details became globally discussed and scrutinized and judged as woman enough or "freak (derogatory)". As you pointed out, these people don't understand sex, biology, gender, or gender in society. They only understand what they think sex and gender should be, then they carve away any parts of reality that don't fit.
These lunatics went on an equally unhinged thing about Simone Biles having ADHD. Their entire ideology is built on a razor-thin foundation of wanting to impose an absurd standard of genetic purity that no one, least of all the far-right, can actually meet.
Fortunately, eugenics is an objectively nonfunctional belief system. It just doesn't and can't work. It would homogenize the entire species to extinction fairly quickly, because as it turns out, "diversity is strength” is kind of a fact of genetics.
@@Freerider93 Crazy how you try to insert yourself into every thread when your opinions A) are objectively wrong and B) do not matter.
@@Freerider93 What tears? The ones you hallucinated?
@@Freerider93 Sex isn't binary. And plenty of cultures around the world have more than two genders (and often different important factors for gender). It's genuinely fascinating to watch people try to process input that their mental model can't handle, though. Facts don't care that you're wrong; they're still true.
So now they wanna separate the pretty dainty women from the tough women? Is that what I’m hearing? 😂😂😂😂
Yep
The right has always tried to enforce that false dichotomy. That's why us "big girls" with low-ish voices were constantly called men growing up. We weren't/aren't "feminine" enough to be considered real women, yet we're not allowed to be anything else as far as they're concerned. They just don't want us to exist at all.
Thank you, MR, both for your continued trans advocacy and for covering this story. Thanks to you, I learned something new: Swyer syndrome. I don't know if it's what that boxer has but what matters is: human females CAN, indisputably, be born with XY chromosomes. Whether she really is XY or not, all of the transphobes and misogynists out there have no hill to die on. Chromosomes are irrelevant, sex characteristics are what define sex and gender is entirely separate. Male = male sex characteristics, female = female sex characteristics, man = identifies as such, woman = identifies as such. This is the only truth.
God I'm sick of trans panic.
I'm sick of ALL the right-wing panics.
What is it with all these PANICS?
Deflection, deflection, deflection.
Gotta feed the fear furnace.🔥
religion needs to keep people dumb to stay pliable, education and forward movement make their story seem more stupid and fake every passing second. They're terrified of having to learn and take responsibility for generations of stupidity fucking up the world.
It isn't panic. Republicans have been selling fear for decades, it's all an act to scare the feeble minded into believing there is something to fear and that their Republican elected officials are the ones that can keep them safe.
The way they talk it's as if they think women boxing you aren't allowed to hit
Being trans in this era is honestly exhausting
@@Freerider93 Nah
funny that their fallback is "genetic advantage" like that isn't the entire theme of competitive sports
didn't see phelps get criticized like this. shaq didn't get crap for being a foot and a half taller than most of his competition when he was in the olympics. and good luck even getting into college basketball and then going pro if you aren't 5 foot 10. you had to work significantly harder than everyone else in the scene
Of course he got Riley Tied for 5th Place Grifter Gaines on to talk about this. God I hate right wingers
She's an irrelevant loser
They have no idea how complicated this world is lol
Did you know Kamala is Indian AND Black? Mind blowing stuff
But this wasn't complicated until they went full Alex Jones ala Sandy Hook.
Go to some boxing channels over this topic. Convos be wild.
@@Ryuksgelus boxing fans are brain dead, shocking. Must be second-hand CTE.
Well done to you all, Imen was born woman and always been a woman... She had 37 fights and only had 5 knockouts, she doesn't even have the power to hit that hard..
She's lost to 9 women before
@@NinjaThatLongboards 9 other women.
Nah man she's been holding back. It's all an elaborate scheme for Algeria to get a boxing medal via pretending to send a AFAB boxer down to fake child photos and establishing conservative laws.
I always find it bizarre how they are like it's unfair because she could hurt her opponent, this is boxing. Nobody said we should ban heavyweight Ann Wolf when she knocked out Ward in less than a round in the most brutal championship knock out in women's boxing history.
People are different. We aren't calling Trump a woman because he can't grow facial hair.
And wears more makeup than his wife
@@codypagels1598 beat me to it
His VP pick wears makeup as well
I'm not calling Trump a woman because that would be insulting to women.
Now that you mention it, maybe Rowling should do a hormone test. I sure hope her menopause doesn't result in her being labeled a man...
And then they wonder why they dont have girlfriends
I have seen so many people calling this “domestic violence” which is wild. This is what the right has built their platform on. Calling out women as men, when they’re not, and screaming about genitalia. Can we just talk about literally ANY policy.
Of course not. Because all they have is culture war bullshit.
as usual the right wing is projecting. they're the ones being abusive towards a woman.
It was a "Jump to Conclusions" mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.
Unexpected Office Space 😂
Love it!
I'm a 6'6" 550 pound nightclub bouncer. I have a 7'0" wingspan, and a 230-pound one-hand grip. In the 30 years that I've been working bars nightclubs and music venues, many people said that it's almost unfair how easy it is for me to break up fights and carry grown men outside like they're fussy toddlers, especially since I can do it without injuring anyone. None of my bosses or coworkers ever said I shouldn't be allowed to work because I'm "too good at my job."
Bad analogy.
@@JohnnyTheMonkey Probably, but I don't really give a fuck. I don't feel like wasting too much of my time working on arguing with the bigots who are into that transvestigation horseshit. They can fuck all the way off.
Though to be fair, they are saying that she's too good at her job, and should be fired.
She showed up to the "Faster, Stronger, Tougher" competition and people are shitting their pants in outrage because she won.
@@JohnnyTheMonkey
Good analogy.
Person arrives to do specific thing, does better in specific thing far more than others, gets shamed for being too good at the thing they came to do.
“How dare they punch her!” LADY THAT IS THE POINT OF THE SPORT!!
Gomez and Rowling are trash.
Watters is too.
The hate they put out into the world will eventually destroy them.
Its weird to be policing people's genetics.
Jesse and Fox got something completely wrong? What a surprise!
Why are trans men not winning anything
@@Str8Rippin93 Patricio Manuel (boxer), Chris Mosier (triathlon athlete) and Schuyler Bailar (swimmer) have all done very well competing against cis men whilst being trans men. Considering how few trans athletes of any flavour there are and the restrictions being what they are in sports, I’d say this sample size and their achievements speak for themselves with regards to trans men’s abilities within sports.
Everybody who called her a man needs to be constantly confronted until they admit they were wrong.
xy makes you male, xx is female. super basic stuff. confront me please.
But they'll never admit it
they seriously called this the biggest issue of our time, with a straight face 🤣 its just another dumb wedge issue invented by right-wingers, this should be decided by whoever governs boxing, not the federal government
I think Kamala has more important pressing issues to deal with.
Basketball is a FAR CRY from boxing where people can literally get KILLED Emma. Let's be real about this.
My mum asked me if I had heard about a man fighting a woman in Olympic boxing? I didn't engage in that topic because I figured my mum was just gonna go off on some reactionary shite. I imagine this is what she was referring to. 🤦
Yeah it's crazy they don't even care that the accusation has no evidence and the circumstances are fishy.
Anyone else getting closeted vibes from Gomez? No wonder the RNC crashed Grindr.
The ending is so presumptuous, all of sudden they're like "Oh so what if she is transgender, let's make nonsensical arguments related to height in basketball."
Hey Jesse, who does that nothing burger taste?
Then, he had the nerve to call it a cover up. So dumb.
2 women boxers have died fighting other women. None figjting men. This one was not trans, was not born male and she was not "almost killed".
i haven’t seen any clips or know what these boxers even look like, but i’m guessing the Algerian fighter is also of a darker complexion than her opponent?
Why yes, yes she is because she's from Algeria.
@@Shadowman4710 ah why yes, yes there are also dark complexioned Italians.
@@Shadowman4710
There's always genetic variations in skin color over a vast swath of people in any region. There is a decent percentage of probability that the athlete in question is light skinned, but based on the swift and immediate vitriol, it stands to reason that the probability that her skin is darker, swings heavily, because rightwingers are nothing if not predictable.
And that's exactly the case. Because of course it is. Maga GOP, and the general white supremacy that's gaining footholds in other parts of the world, is reverting to the classics pretty quickly.
My guess is J.K. Rowlings either husband or boyfriend left her for a trans person or in the least she caught him watching that porn. You couldnt have this much misplaced vitriol unless some thing lie this occurred and at the sametime being a narcissist.
We do know that one of Joanne Karen's favourite books is Vladimir Nabokov's 'Lolita'.
That's the F-ing point. IT'S NOT A POINT. THE OLYMPICS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING, since Biles was VILLIFIED, for dropping out, Basically not wanting to BREAK HER NECK, DIE, because she did dangerous gymnastics, said I'm off, I'm out. Media went bezerk, unpatriotic, selfish ...blah blah blah. Scwew the OLYMPICS. Why should Kamala give air to Transphobia nonsense. Let Games do their thing. She is smart no to engage in petty traps.
Lol I swear I see why Trump says he loves the poorly educated.
The lack of just basic research or googling is always concerning. She’s been to the Olympics before. She was born a woman, has a uterus for Christ sake but not surprising I guess 😢
Transphobia hurts cisgender women too!
Who cares!? Seriously if Americans can worry about such a trivial matter when people around the world are dying and can't afford to live. I don't care what a presidential candidate has to say about gender identity. The world is falling apart and all the news can talk about is a boxing match. Please get some perspective!
White Conservatives see all this as the fall of the west that’s why they care so much.
How do you think such big problems come about? They start small or only affect a small section of the population and often people that have the power to make a difference do nothing because its such a small problem or feel it doesnt affect them, etc. Then it gets bigger. But nah, itll blow over, best to ignore it and it will go away. Then it gets bigger, and bigger, etc. So yeah, addressing things like this is always the right call.
Are presidential candidates supposed to weigh in on every single stupid little thing upsetting the Daily Wire?
no, instead he should bring cocaine and naked transgenders to the white house.
@@PanzarInthelake Trump has not won the election.
Saw a recent Waldorf Nation bit on this. The controversy about the Algerian boxer being cancelled by the Russians (sorry if I'm misstating) she had been allowed to compete, and won a match against a Russian boxer, and suddenly she was re-tested and removed from the competition. The Russians never said what they tested for or showed their results, so it's highly questionable whether it should be considered at all.
And as for Jesse Watters running his mouth about "the biggest gender controversy of the year"? Ridonkulous.
Testicular feminization syndrome (I am a family physician. I know this stuff). Female body type and in majority of cases these persons identify and are identified as women from birth. Usually this is not identified until puberty when menses do not start as expected. Hormonally this person's body is also female in type, so there is no inherent advantage that would usually be attributed to higher testosterone found in male phenotype.
Is this the same as Klinefelter syndrome ?
Imagine training all your life and you finally make it to the olympics and when you beat someone a bunch of weirdos start making up some fake controversy about you.
The guys who wore "Female Body Inspector" T-shirts as edgelord teens are now hoping to make that a real occupation.
It really speaks to how politicized the public’s understanding of biology is, that so few people seem to know about intersexuality. (Intersex people are the ‘I’ in “LGBTQIA+”.) There are numerous intersexual variations people can have. Intersex women often get thrown out of women’s sports for reasons like this. Their community faces enormous adversity, because society largely dismisses their existence, as they don’t conform to our culture’s rigidly binary sex/gender ideology. Maybe it’s time we group athletes by more specific characteristics, that apply more directly to the specific sports they play 🤷