Bending and extending the knees is also very important. While bending, you apply force to the board, so you can make a strong turn. When extending, pressure is released, which allowes you to switch sides. Especially in tip 1 and 5 you see this very clearly
@@johnshelly6946 depends on what and when you are doing it .... extend the legs at the end of a turn and your edge will unload right at the end of the extention (so the extention is initiation of the unload for edge change) but you can allso from a medium bend stance just drop down deep into your knees at the end of the turn (think almost lifting the board of the snow with your feet while your upper body is dropping) ... then the board shoots across under your body and you then can forcefully extent your legs to really dig in that edge already before you start turning. this results in fast edge changes like somewhat shown at the end of the video... done right you can set an edge and hold a carve full carve even down an icy black run (just better be at your A-game in balancing and footsteering that edge, all the way around the turn) most errors made, are especially on not completing the turns ... a not quit completed heeledge turn, can be caught by a strong toe edge... but going from your strong toes to your heels while you are still to fast will result in loosing your edge at the bottom of your heeledge turn. a good turn starts with "overloading your board" at the exit of the last one... go across the hill at reasonable speed then dig in your edge so the board wants to shoot uphill... then either use that shoot up, as a trampoline, push up and basically jump onto your next edge further up the hill... or just relax, let that board shoot up underneath you and then push out onto the new edge (wich allows for more finesse and precision but requiers more intentfull powerdelivery, so your edge actually grips at the beginning of the turn, not just past the fall line. a good carve is actually really relaxed and easy through the turn, and all the power and dynamic should happen at the edgechange.... this requires thinking of your turns as bouncing your momentum between two walls, just slowly falling down... maximum power therefore is at the apex of the turn (so in the Fallline) ... if your max power is at the bottom of the turn your momentum is just basically falling straight down the hill, not bouncing left to right. (that is what we see in this video most of the time btw.) check out down unweighted turns by malcom moore for a better example. or just think of jumping in between two trampolines... you would never push of at the moment you leave the tramp... rather you tuck in your legs in the air, and push all the way out while landing on the new tramp... then its just a chilled out wait with basically extended legs until that tramp shoots you out again... tug in and push out while landing on the other tramp again.
@@fireblade1986 Interesting. I disagree that these up/down moves do the bulk of the work to unload the board. I definitely disagree with 'a good turn starts with overloading your board at the exit of the previous turn'. If I want my edge to grip right at the beginning of the turn, then I need the board to be loaded while on the flat base. The lighter the board is when flat base (or even in the air), the less bite the edge will give when I initiate the new turn. There's a moment when the board goes from light to heavier....if the board is already loaded then the the pressure ramps more quickly once the edge bites. And by having the board loaded while it's flat we can move smoothly and control the pressure buildup more easily with our move across the board and into the turn. The up down move can help us regulate, and they can help us manage how much pressure is released or built up, but the bulk of the work is done by the board edge angle changing, and our body's corresponding travel across the board from one edge to the other. I appreciate your explanation, I have a different understanding than you do.
@@johnshelly6946 well ever wached worldcup racers and been on such a slope after a race? ... it basically blank ice, just so it holds up during the race, also you can frequentliy see their skies lifting off in between turns ... its about precision and dynamic, getting the edge onto the snow at the right angle, with the right power buildup ... you build up your power to fast, your ski/board will skip, you build up to slow, your edge digs in while your board is not quite bend any you have a very wide arc that you can only hold your body lean angle with tons of speed, killing your legs. ... there are a lot of ways to turn a carve, that work on green and blue runs... on red and black you just see very few people sustaining carving, while 95% wash out after one or two turns ... there it comes down to hardboot and raceboard (i.e. Material and power) or the ability to effectively manipulate your turnshape, right from the edge change (finesse, technique, calculated precision) ... but you do you and its just about having fun!
As a former instructor of 15 years, I would NEVER recommend falling leaf in moguls unless someone was still pretty early in their riding career. Being able to make quick, short radius skidded turns through moguls with flexion and extension of the lower body is a critical skill to develop if you want to take your riding to the next level. Learning those short radius, skidded “cross under” turns will help you in the trees, on steeps and technical terrain as well as in the moguls. There is a progression to be taught and if done the right way still saves a lot of energy. If I see someone on a board falling leafing their way through moguls it screams that they are missing a piece of the progression. Just don’t be that kook. Moguls can actually be a lot of fun if you’re willing to put in the time.
For sure, falling leaf is good in some spots at some times, but it should only be a tool you use and not something to need. I happen to find a lot of use out of it, not for tackling full portions of runs, but instead using it to link lines and add more flow to my riding. Use it but don't abuse it, like with anything in snowboarding:)
@@SnowboardingExplained - sure there are situations where you might need to use it for a few seconds. And it’s also part of the progression for learning how to link turns and develop heel side edge control; but the implication here was “use a falling leaf through an entire mogul field” which may be ok for a beginner who finds themself on the wrong run. However, at some point it would benefit a rider to learn how to properly navigate moguls using turns and both edges.
@@pbourdon231 we see what your saying, but this whole video is about ways to apply edge pressure mostly on your toe edge. So the tips are intend for people that are past the point of needing to rely on the falling leaf. We have some awesome tutorials for people that are just starting to snowboard or are trying to start that toe edge carving journey. Next time we will make sure to show how we actually use these techniques so there isn’t so much confusion!
@@SnowboardAddictionthen rename the video to beginner/intermediate tips. Like many have said, this is a poor representation of carving. Carving does not equal edge pressure. Carving also does not equal holding an edge. Do you need pressure and do you have to hold a certain edge to carve? yeah. You also need pressure and have to hold a certain (less high) edge when skidding.
Started boarding in 2002 and have to agree with you, I had quite a few lessons in Val'disere and my French instructor who used to be on the French national freestyle team could carve (yes carve) through a mogul field, it was insane to watch and even more insane for me to mimic (which I didn't even come close to). Snowboarding is a fairly simple sport.......until it gets steep with moguls OR flat sheet ice!
Carving safety should always be mentioned and emphasized in an educational carving segment. Carving is dangerously unpredictable to other riders. Choice of terrain is important, you chose a very dangerous place during tip 1 and almost ran into several other riders. That was a teachable moment. I teach students to Do all of the following. #1 Never carve in high traffic areas, riders tend to come in waves so if you must, maybe wait and let the traffic go. #2 Always look around and uphill often while carving. even if your the downhill rider carving takes you across the trail unpredictably fast. I teach and emphasize these things because I have made the mistakes. I have cut people off and caused collisions. These things are easily avoidable. Don’t learn the hard way like I did.
Definitely be mindful of the other people on the mountain! It’s always your responsibility if you crash into someone, and collisions are one of the biggest dangers in the mountain. so make sure to shred with that in mind:)
@@gboates you’re right many people need to focus on where they are going. Carving is a high level skill, and dangerous. if people aren’t gonna be aware of their surrounding because they have to focus on where they are trying to turn, they should probably not carve on a busy trail. Or stop frequently and keep accessing traffic. If you’re capable of looking around, the finish phase of the toeside turn gives you plenty of time to look uphill and access potential risks for the next two turns.
Carving the way Taevis does is certainly dangerous to other people. These opinions about how to carve, if applied, will also put people in danger. Carving itself, when done by someone who actually knows what they're doing is not unpredictable. @@Joeydanger63
I wish everyone would look uphill before carving because downhill skier has right of way but don’t be an idiot and make the hardest carve you possibly can when someone is right behind you, mostly I feel like this is a beginners problem though because they are so focused on not falling and trying to carve they don’t realize what going on around them
Good video, but the mogul part is odd. They are challenging, but if you get good at them, ride between the bumps, keep your knees soft, and keep your upper arms quiet, you’ll get better and better at it, and once they get easy you suddenly aren’t burning up a bunch of energy getting down them. Then throw in switch riding and use moguls as jumps for 180s and 360s, etc. You become such a stronger rider on all terrain, including park, and you’ll murder tree runs. Heel side scraping down then to “survive” a mogul field is doing yourself a disservice and looks noobish, even if you aren’t. The snowboard community is dead wrong about moguls, get good at them and hit them when they’ve got a couple inches of fresh and it’s like a mini terrain park.
This right here is it folks! Learn to love the bumps! Being able to stay on your front foot and ride both edges down bumpy terrain seamlessly will advance your riding anywhere on the mountain.
100%, most youtuber snowboarders that talk about moguls in their videos don't ride them properly, and the ones that are former pros or high level instructors can charge through them when needed but don't care to much for videos since it's boring AF to watch unless they are spaced perfectly (rarely happens) where you can pop a spin or two in the middle of them.
We should have put more time into the Falling Leaf Carve, Because if we did you would see that it's another way to add style and flow to hard bumpy slopes, leeting you do even more spins and awesome lines! Also just a note, a proper Falling Leaf Carve has no more side slip then any other carve. It just starts more like a side slip when learning it:) Taevis is working hard to get better at teaching what he knows, and we are stoked for what he has planned for this winter!
Right! we have a lot of double black mogul fields in whistler, and they are not the most relaxing thing to ride on icy days no matter your skill level haha
Good stuff! Let's breakdown body movements used to "set" those edges using flexion & extension, torsion, twist, etc to move our center of mass over the effective edge in simple terms. Carving well is life changing! 🏂🤙
I read a lot of controversy in the comments of this video for sure. I've only been coaching for 25 yrs with 20+ as AASI certified...but maybe pull this one down and produce another one, or maybe 2 new videos to get the point across better?
We are going to be going deeper into all these topics for sure!!! We are not going to be taking down this video, since when you look at the information it's great. But we are going to do a diffrent procces for making videos in the future, what won't put so much pressure on the rider to teach when shredding, so you can look forward to some great content coming this winter!
Just got another couple of days in Northstar before season ending. I finally was able to do some S turns. It was very mentally tough for me to switch between heel edge and toe edge. One thing that really helped this time was I got a brand new board and binding. I can't believe how much of a difference a good board/binding really makes. I use to get a terrible shin pain when practicing toe edges but with these new board and binding it is really nice. I was facing issue where I am switching to toe carve without first getting on the toe edge and that caused me to lose control. Then I tried to kick my back foot out more when switching carve and it helped me switch to toe carve a lot quicker and with more control. I think I am starting to get why we need to do some speed checking. I didn't know that you cannot switch between S turns when going too fast. I thought the whole point was S turns gives you control when you are going fast. But I saw that I lost control very quickly when going too fast. I still have a pretty cheap boot so I am still getting feet pain and feels that there are too much wiggle room when I switch carves. When I try to tighten my boots more then I start to lose circulation lol. Not too sure what is normal feeling for boots.
Sounds like your making gains! Finding the right boot is always hard, you want them to be tight with no wiggle but also not hurt. Easier said then done, we recommend trying on as many boots as possible!!! And when the snow is super good you can do faster deeper carves, but other then that too much speed makes it hard. Kee shredding!!!
As someone who listened to some people who told me to learn the leaf technique first, now after three years of riding experience I can tell you DO NOT. It's pointless, it's worthless, it doesn't teaches you anything. SEND IT! As soon as I dropped beginner techniques and started carving, my riding skill improved within few days. Next winter I was flying the piste like I was snowboarding for 5 years and not 1 season of 7 days...
If I remember correctly, SA has a great tutorial on bump riding that can help you get through them without reverting to the falling leaf. Falling leaf will get you down the hill but I would recommend checking out the bump video. Learning to make turns in moguls (vs. resorting to falling leaf) will dramatically change your riding for the better all over the mountain. The best part about snowboarding is always being able to improve your ability.
I would also argue that using falling leaf will save you energy, its a great way to burn out your quads. Being able to ride through the bumps on both edges provides relief to muscle groups, therefore conserving energy.
It teaches things, as someone who can send it with ease, i like to use it now and then here and there. Not the only tool to use, but it's a good one when used right!@@vanjamenadzer
Yes! We will make a better video on this topic:) Basically taevis is saying once you get your edge locked in, you can push up off the snow to speed up your turns. So you get on your edge and drive your power through your legs.
@@SnowboardAddictionmake a better video and delete this one. These are dubious tips at best, and the demos are really poor. It's not a carving video when you spend most of the time taking about falling leaf and skidded turns.
I actually appreciate the “falling leaf” carving on moguls tip. I agree that one doesn’t have to waste so much energy shooting down a narrow channel under the lifts or on dense and hard packed moguls. Watching the difference in your ease and flow of movement convinces me that there can be more than one way. There’s no reason people can’t go down the slopes with modifications. We don’t all have to do it the same old way if it doesn’t work for us.
Thank you!!! Happy to be able to help:) I want to make a video talking about these topics more in depth now that I have more experience making videos. Because I have a lot more to say on the topics!
I can't believe that despite the ENORMOUS amount of snowboard videos I watched in my life, you can still come out with advices I've never heard before... 😂 And none of them that is not gonna be useful.. I'm amazed 😁🤯 thannnnks can't wait to try it all
Oooof! Certainly some dangerous moments during the first segment. I'm also not understanding the thought process behind teaching the falling leaf technique in a carving video. I recommend SA to students all the time, but this video has me questioning whether the riders have any formal instructing experience at all.
Thanks for the feedback! Taevis is still learning how to best make videos, But we are confedent that with time you will see he is the real deal! We understand that the Falling Leaf is known as a biggener bad way to snowboard. But at the end of the day it's a heel side to switch heelside carve, and can be done with great style and great flow! We should have shown how Taevis uses it in his riding, but it's a great tool when used in the right way:)
As Paul Howard says, there's no such thing as bad snowboarding; there's only consequences. That said, the falling leaf in the video is not carving; it is skidding. And unless a rider is switching edges between turns, it is generally not referred to as "switch". And staying on one edge will result in depleting glycogen stores for heelside muscles much faster than alternating between toe and heel edge use on turns. @@SnowboardAddiction
We get as stiff of boots as we can handle. Its not super crucial, but the bigger the features you ride the more stiff boots help. Since they let you deal with high speed and support your ankles more, what is crucial on 60 foot jumps!
@@SnowboardAddiction my point exactly everyone is focused on what you do but all the time I am thinking how hard it must be for the camera guy to not only keep up with you but also not hit u, avoid others and film u
Carving safety should always be mentioned and emphasized in an educational carving segment. Carving is dangerously unpredictable to other riders. Choice of terrain is important, you chose a very dangerous place during tip 1 and almost ran into several other riders. That was a teachable moment. I teach students to Do all of the following. #1 Never carve in high traffic areas, riders tend to come in waves so if you must, maybe wait and let the traffic go. #2 Always look around and uphill often while carving. even if your the downhill rider carving takes you across the trail unpredictably fast. I teach and emphasize these things because I have made the mistakes. I have cut people off and caused collisions. These things are easily avoidable. Don’t learn the hard way like I did.
That leafing thru tree is useful (i use this as im a beginner in traversing narrow trees), but you may need to be comfortable riding switch as if you are leafing too much, it kills your speed and you can get stuck
We definitely recommend filming when there is less people, but Taevis was never at risk of hitting anyone. He’s rather solid with this snowboard thing haha
There's not a real good way to sugar coat this, but he was certainly at risk of hitting other riders at several different points. I would perhaps retitle the video "5 life ending carving tips" @@SnowboardAddiction
@@katieweimer6333 If you actually think there was a risk I’ll clear up a couple of things, first it was a normal green run not a family zone. Second there was only 1 time I came close to bumping someone, and that’s because they were in my blind spot. But I was ahead and had right away, that’s why they saw me turning toward them, what let us get the time to easily separate. If he did a super aggressive turn at the same time we still wouldn’t have hit one another, because he would have ended up behind me. I’ve been snowboarding a long time, and I know what it means to almost hit someone. This was not one of those cases.
@taeviskapalka8359 Easy Out is clearly marked all over the place as a family/slow/safety zone (whatever name you want to give it). In the video, you make audible 'Whoops'-type noises when you get too close to someone, FOR YOUR OWN COMFORT. Being ahead is not the only thing that matters when it comes to mountain safety. Read the code if you're going to quote 'rights'.
if i felt like it was a close call i would have addressed it. i have been a whistler local for 6 years and i take safety very seriously. i have never ran into anyone when carving, and that's not from chance. im sorry the angle of the clip made you worry about the people in the video, but i felt very in control the whole time. and was paused many times on the run, someone could have said something at any time. you can think whatever you want. i just hope you see that it was not a big deal for anyone involved. and i hope you keep watching our videos. our goal is to improve peoples riding and we are always working on improving! @@domoshanek
I've been snowboarding since i was 12, i had an hour lesson and picked it up that day. im a decent snowboarder with good edge control trying to improve me style and buttering let alone park. with that said i have had some success teaching my girlfriend and sisters how to board but on the other hand i feel so overwhelmed teaching somebody and feel as though there are 100s of different ways and techniques and analogies when teaching someone how to turn and link turns on a board if that makes sense. anybody feel me? and then there is the whole bunch of "why your not carving even though you thought you were" type of videos geared at people such as myself with my skill level I've described. ugh lmfao
I feel like this video was saying “so to get better at carving you should be better at carving”. Words like “drive” and “set” have no meaning if you don’t explain the mechanics of what you’re doing.
We get what you are saying! This wasn't a video on how to carve, but instead, a few tips to improve your carving and give you some different things to practice, if we do a video about carving it will be much more detailed!
Instead of moving your arm try to balance your body.Stay centered over the board,always charge your front foot,this will allow the board to work the way it supposed to.
This video justifies my usage of falling leaf at a steep mogule slope! Also, I feel good that he also wants to avoid mogule slopes. I really don't enjoy mogule since snowboard cannot make a short turn like ski.
Love me some moguls. And trees. I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to enjoy turning. Falling leaf feels like something you do when you’re unable to make a turn. Edit: I see the carving application. Still not gonna falling leaf in trees.
Fair enough! We mostly use it when someone suddenly pops in front of you. So instead of stopping or doing a sketchy edge change you can falling leaf out of the way.
If I didn't know snowboard addiction was trying to be a serious instruction channel I would think this was a comedy/parody bit. Maybe 40% of those turns were even locked in carves and you almost nailed a bunch of people. Then we learned how to burn out our quad muscles in the bumps with a heelside sideslip in the bumps like a beginner, which has nothing to do with carving. I'm a 20 year vet of instructing and train all of our new instructors, and if I saw this kind of riding while shadowing you, you wouldn't be taking lessons on your own. This was bad technique, poor instruction and downright dangerous...where was ski patrol when those poor patrons needed them? I would personally pull down this video and try again. For those of you watching, don't listen to any of this and head over to Ryan Knapton's channel if you're truly interested in learning to carve.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! we are sorry that we didn't explain these tips in a way that made sense to you. Taevis as good of a snowboarder as he is is still learning how to properley show what he knows. But Taevis is a top level rider and is stoked to keep learning and teach us what he knows, what is a lot! If you don't value that no worries, but you can expect great content coming soon!
What a hater. His carves were solid besides when he was showing what not to do. And falling leaf may be used by beginners but it’s also a legitimate technique for getting through steep, mogully terrain safely.
@SnowboardAddiction I'm glad to hear it. I don't mean to hate on the kid, I'm sure he's a good kid. In the future I'm sure he'll be safer about filming his parts too. I have sent my own students to your videos in the past and appreciate your content. It's important to set a good example though, and I preach at the top of my lungs during my lessons about safety, fun and then learning, in that order. That other dude called me a hater, okay fine, but I would never send someone to this video because it's a very bad example and violates all kinds of safety rules. I wish you guys well and hope Taevis continues to make great content for you and learns from any criticism. I've seen some serious accidents in my career of instructing, and 4 people have died very avoidable deaths on the mountains I've worked at in my time. I'm pretty serious about safety and have no room for irresponsible nonsense.
@@cavan1979No stress man, snowboarding is a subjective sport, and I always value others opinions. I think your wrong and that I know vastly more about snowboarding then you do. But you are definitely correct about setting the precedent for mountain safety, even tho no one was in danger at any point. The fact it’s up for debate is not ok for a video. And I see the value in your experience as a coach and the skills that must come with. I have very limited bigger snowboarding experiences, and I can see how people could use the falling leaf as a way to never fully learn to snowboard, instead of just a usful tool. Most of my experience is in freestyle and I’ve been riding at a very high level for a long time. So i over looked some things last year. But this year I can guarantee we are going to make some videos that if they don’t teach you something knew, what I think they will. Then you will be shocked with how well we visualize and deliver the information! So thanks again for your criticism! our goal is to improve your riding. And a little bit of feedback sure goes a long way to achieving that goal🏄
I would love to see you, redo this entire video and apply the K. I. S. S. Approach to teaching and coaching. Keep it simple and SAFE. Rather than bombarding viewers with way too much information on a busy slope bring your terrific enthusiasm and advanced skill sets to a small group of 3 intermediate, snowboarders and make a video which teaches them 1, 2, 3 skills. Do a demonstration, commenting ONLY on what the kids (or say older adults like me over 60 L O L )are doing correctly. Subsequent videos will track everyone’s progress as you keep it real simple infusing your video with tons of praise success and love of the sport. I am aching to see content providers, and “experts” effectively communicate and transmit skills to others.
@@SnowboardAddiction not trying to be mean, as i fall in and out of strength to not break at the waist on carves too. We need someone squatier with stove pipe thighs for the upright carve demo.
@@AL_KING777oh man no stress, but I for sure could do any carve at any level. This was just a demonstration well talking. Next time we do a carving video I’ll prioritize getting some smexy carves for you. I just didn’t know I had to prove how good at snowboarding I was in every video we do😢😂 Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate it!
@@SnowboardingExplained riding an edge on the snow is easy, and wasn’t my point. As mentioned I wasn’t trying to offend anyone, more relating. Appears we’re similar build 6 foot, 170-175, and I was relating to core and leg strength not always holding up for myself personally, and you in some of the shots, you’re breaking at the waist on toe side, direct correlation to core strength. the instructional vids aren’t geared towards me, but I watch them in hopes of picking up new tips, always learning.
No offence taking, i was trying to make a joke haha it is just funny since i used to do an ab blaster series so i had to retort. you can expert a lot of new tips coming soon! thanks for your support:) @@AL_KING777
Thanks for good tips, Ive been always indoctrinated in the theory that style is ALL. Tip 3 may save you some energy but it is not as stylish as when you become aggressive with your toe heel transitions.
We should have put a portion in the video of how taevis uses this carve, because it can be sick!!! The thing to remember with the falling leaf carve, is it can’t be your only carve, but when you master it and link it in with the other aspects of your snowboarding it can be really fun!
hmmmm not sure if this is the best video on carving...the falling leave on mogul not will exhaust people, which is dangerous since people can't hold their postures anymore, but also reinforces the wrong memory muscles. Ryan Knapton or James Cherry's videos might be a better start
For advanced heel edge carves, you need to open up your lead shoulder. It's a good idea to watch surfers and copy their style. I can feel the same power as I do on a toeside carve! Also, carving into a spin can have bad results if you're not careful. I found out the hard way that if you lean your center of mass too far past the edge of the board off a park jump, you can land horizontally and get injured.
You definitely don’t need to open your upper body for heel side carves, but you do want to in some instances. And every single snowboarder in the world does some form a setup carve when spinning. It’s really really hard to spin without edge pressure:)
You do if you want them to feel good and look good ;) I agree that there's a set-up carve, maybe I didn't understand your advice in the video. It sounded like you were saying "just carve right over the lip of the jump". You do the setup carve to get onto the correct edge, but you have to straighten out and get your balance back over the board if you want a flat spin. Thanks for the reply!@@SnowboardAddiction
@@lukejuras8024Don’t worry man, I didn’t learn back 10s without learning the proper steps of a setup carve haha We’re gonna do a whole series on frontside and backside spins, so this was just a little thing I like to do when training. Working on getting better at explaining things, please be patient! Or don’t your call, but I would appreciate it haha
@@SnowboardingExplained I didn't get up as much as I wanted to last year, but every time I was focused on carving. 2:30 getting speed control on steep runs was my main goal, no scrubbing allowed. It's possible with higher edge angle > more flexed board > tighter turns. I'm still working on details and style, but here's what it looks like after a season of about 15-20 days on the snow: ua-cam.com/video/LrzVkubHRv8/v-deo.htmlsi=as1iLQOPeMwRNftZ&t=8 162W Burton Custom X with Ions/Step-ons.
First step. Switch to a forward stance. Unless you're super skilled like Ryan Knapton then duck stance will not work. Even so its clear that his stance limits his carve ability(to be fair he likes butters and all that stuff). If wanna actually learn to "carve" look to alpine snowboarders or to softboot carving in Asia.
The amount of people he pissed off and cut off .... yikes. Just look at how they look at him when he gets close. And maybe falling leaf moguls for beginners only. Otherwise, we just ride that shit.
you can use whatever carve you want. i started doing it a couple heres ago, and i really like it for getting through some chaw after a wet pow day. you can get really fricken good at it, and then once you do you can start using it for tricks! i will make a video showing how cool it can be as soon as we get some snow:)
You should not be promoting the falling leaf technique anywhere. This is just a glorified heel slip and terrible snowboarding. Not to mention in ruins the snow.
We’re sorry we couldn’t convey how awesome this carve is here. Normally when you use it it’s because the snow is already too damaged to want to hold a toe edge. But if you do use it on a groomer, you can actually making it super steezy and hold clean edges the whole way down. You shouldn’t limit your techniques, and instead master them so you can add flow and be a more rounded rider💪
You should be able to hold a toe edge on anything. Toe edge is much more stable and secure if you are doing it right. If you can't make turns on the terrain, you don't belong there. Most of your content is useful, but this is just plain bad.@@SnowboardAddiction
We are sorry we didn't manage to show you how awesome these tips are in this video! we will work hard to make these tips easier to understand in the future. Thanks for your support:)
Taevis has a lot to learn about making videos, but he is working hard at it. What we are so stoked about! it is very rare for a snowboarder at his level to take a step back and teach and we can't wait to see what he makes this winter:)
This is joke man read books , go to professional instructor and when you make videos and giving tips to the people use the true terminology ! Really bad tip for carving is using faling leaf , and this opened shoulders and rear hand awlays up ... Jerry things.
@@SnowboardAddiction I don't understand. Do you mean carve is the name of the trick? Also, what do you mean edge in the snow? Am I carving when my edge is in the snow? What if both edges are in the snow?
We have never once had a snowboard we know suggest we should go ride moguls unless it’s 40cm of fresh haha But we are stoked to hear that someone is getting enjoyment out of them!
@@SnowboardAddiction I recommend moguls to every snowboarder who is trying to progress beyond the beginner/intermediate level. If you can turn effectively in moguls, you can turn effectively anywhere.
Good to know! i only see them as a hassle or something to bomb through. But now that i think about it i was stoke the first time i did a double black mogul field when i was a kid. im much more into snake runs now tho, they just are so much less icy and made for snowboarders instead of skiers, whats nice haha @@theinfamoustuba
This video is bad and you should feel bad. How is this "carving tips" when a third of it is a falling leaf lesson and the another third is homie almost colliding with beginners in the "family zone?" I think this also is the first carving video I've seen where the person demoing doesn't actually do any carving.
It’s normal for people to have a negative impression of the falling leaf carve, since it’s mostly seen used by people just starting to learn to snowboard. But you should never blame the tool, when used properly it is a super dope stylish carve, next time I will definitely show it off a bit more😁
@@SnowboardAddiction if it is a carved maneuver, why didn't the demo guy ever show it that way?? Every single falling leaf he demos is a skid, which isn't a carve. If you use "carve" and "turn" as synonymous, you're wrong. Is it just semantics? Maybe, but these words actually do MEAN something, and for a channel called snowboard addiction, I expect better. I'm super looking forward to next season instructing when I have to tell people what "carve" means when they watch videos like this and get wrong information. It's really fun for me. FYI- the thing he calls a euro carve is also not a euro carve.
@@SnowboardAddiction look at it this way- every time I'm doing a 180 from now on I'm going to call it a 720, because they're both spins, so they're the same thing right? Does that make sense to you?
this is a poor instructional video. am disappointed. proper, courteous snowboarding does NOT ride like that in traffic. he came too close to others too many times. an accident waiting to happen. The instructor needs a safety and a courtesy lesson or be banned from the area. reckless, dangerous, inconsiderate snowboarding. I love to carve and ride fast but, I do it when am alone on the run and always aware of my surroundings. this includes a healthy look up when on my toe side.
Taevis won’t be banned, he is far safer then normal people on the mountain. If your riding whistler it will be busy, but taevis has not ran into anyone in 6 years if shedding here so we think he knows what he’s doing💪
We have a new format for videos this winter that should make Taevis able to fully display what he knows. Because you don't get good at park if you don't master how to carve. so we will lock in our format so there is no doubt about the advice in the future!
Step 1 don’t attempt to work on your carves on the most crowded ski run possible. Step 2 don’t try to film a carving tip instruction video on the most crowded ski run possible.
Bending and extending the knees is also very important. While bending, you apply force to the board, so you can make a strong turn. When extending, pressure is released, which allowes you to switch sides. Especially in tip 1 and 5 you see this very clearly
Great point!!! We will have to make a video going deeper into this topic🙌🏻
Is it the bending or the extending which releases the pressure?
@@johnshelly6946 depends on what and when you are doing it .... extend the legs at the end of a turn and your edge will unload right at the end of the extention (so the extention is initiation of the unload for edge change)
but you can allso from a medium bend stance just drop down deep into your knees at the end of the turn (think almost lifting the board of the snow with your feet while your upper body is dropping) ... then the board shoots across under your body and you then can forcefully extent your legs to really dig in that edge already before you start turning.
this results in fast edge changes like somewhat shown at the end of the video... done right you can set an edge and hold a carve full carve even down an icy black run (just better be at your A-game in balancing and footsteering that edge, all the way around the turn)
most errors made, are especially on not completing the turns ... a not quit completed heeledge turn, can be caught by a strong toe edge... but going from your strong toes to your heels while you are still to fast will result in loosing your edge at the bottom of your heeledge turn.
a good turn starts with "overloading your board" at the exit of the last one... go across the hill at reasonable speed then dig in your edge so the board wants to shoot uphill... then either use that shoot up, as a trampoline, push up and basically jump onto your next edge further up the hill... or just relax, let that board shoot up underneath you and then push out onto the new edge (wich allows for more finesse and precision but requiers more intentfull powerdelivery, so your edge actually grips at the beginning of the turn, not just past the fall line.
a good carve is actually really relaxed and easy through the turn, and all the power and dynamic should happen at the edgechange.... this requires thinking of your turns as bouncing your momentum between two walls, just slowly falling down... maximum power therefore is at the apex of the turn (so in the Fallline) ... if your max power is at the bottom of the turn your momentum is just basically falling straight down the hill, not bouncing left to right.
(that is what we see in this video most of the time btw.)
check out down unweighted turns by malcom moore for a better example.
or just think of jumping in between two trampolines... you would never push of at the moment you leave the tramp... rather you tuck in your legs in the air, and push all the way out while landing on the new tramp... then its just a chilled out wait with basically extended legs until that tramp shoots you out again... tug in and push out while landing on the other tramp again.
@@fireblade1986 Interesting. I disagree that these up/down moves do the bulk of the work to unload the board. I definitely disagree with 'a good turn starts with overloading your board at the exit of the previous turn'. If I want my edge to grip right at the beginning of the turn, then I need the board to be loaded while on the flat base. The lighter the board is when flat base (or even in the air), the less bite the edge will give when I initiate the new turn. There's a moment when the board goes from light to heavier....if the board is already loaded then the the pressure ramps more quickly once the edge bites. And by having the board loaded while it's flat we can move smoothly and control the pressure buildup more easily with our move across the board and into the turn. The up down move can help us regulate, and they can help us manage how much pressure is released or built up, but the bulk of the work is done by the board edge angle changing, and our body's corresponding travel across the board from one edge to the other. I appreciate your explanation, I have a different understanding than you do.
@@johnshelly6946 well ever wached worldcup racers and been on such a slope after a race? ... it basically blank ice, just so it holds up during the race, also you can frequentliy see their skies lifting off in between turns ... its about precision and dynamic, getting the edge onto the snow at the right angle, with the right power buildup ... you build up your power to fast, your ski/board will skip, you build up to slow, your edge digs in while your board is not quite bend any you have a very wide arc that you can only hold your body lean angle with tons of speed, killing your legs.
... there are a lot of ways to turn a carve, that work on green and blue runs... on red and black you just see very few people sustaining carving, while 95% wash out after one or two turns
... there it comes down to hardboot and raceboard (i.e. Material and power) or the ability to effectively manipulate your turnshape, right from the edge change (finesse, technique, calculated precision)
... but you do you and its just about having fun!
As a former instructor of 15 years, I would NEVER recommend falling leaf in moguls unless someone was still pretty early in their riding career. Being able to make quick, short radius skidded turns through moguls with flexion and extension of the lower body is a critical skill to develop if you want to take your riding to the next level. Learning those short radius, skidded “cross under” turns will help you in the trees, on steeps and technical terrain as well as in the moguls. There is a progression to be taught and if done the right way still saves a lot of energy. If I see someone on a board falling leafing their way through moguls it screams that they are missing a piece of the progression. Just don’t be that kook. Moguls can actually be a lot of fun if you’re willing to put in the time.
For sure, falling leaf is good in some spots at some times, but it should only be a tool you use and not something to need. I happen to find a lot of use out of it, not for tackling full portions of runs, but instead using it to link lines and add more flow to my riding.
Use it but don't abuse it, like with anything in snowboarding:)
@@SnowboardingExplained - sure there are situations where you might need to use it for a few seconds. And it’s also part of the progression for learning how to link turns and develop heel side edge control; but the implication here was “use a falling leaf through an entire mogul field” which may be ok for a beginner who finds themself on the wrong run. However, at some point it would benefit a rider to learn how to properly navigate moguls using turns and both edges.
@@pbourdon231 we see what your saying, but this whole video is about ways to apply edge pressure mostly on your toe edge.
So the tips are intend for people that are past the point of needing to rely on the falling leaf.
We have some awesome tutorials for people that are just starting to snowboard or are trying to start that toe edge carving journey.
Next time we will make sure to show how we actually use these techniques so there isn’t so much confusion!
@@SnowboardAddictionthen rename the video to beginner/intermediate tips.
Like many have said, this is a poor representation of carving. Carving does not equal edge pressure.
Carving also does not equal holding an edge. Do you need pressure and do you have to hold a certain edge to carve? yeah. You also need pressure and have to hold a certain (less high) edge when skidding.
Started boarding in 2002 and have to agree with you, I had quite a few lessons in Val'disere and my French instructor who used to be on the French national freestyle team could carve (yes carve) through a mogul field, it was insane to watch and even more insane for me to mimic (which I didn't even come close to). Snowboarding is a fairly simple sport.......until it gets steep with moguls OR flat sheet ice!
Carving safety should always be mentioned and emphasized in an educational carving segment. Carving is dangerously unpredictable to other riders. Choice of terrain is important, you chose a very dangerous place during tip 1 and almost ran into several other riders. That was a teachable moment. I teach students to Do all of the following. #1 Never carve in high traffic areas, riders tend to come in waves so if you must, maybe wait and let the traffic go. #2 Always look around and uphill often while carving. even if your the downhill rider carving takes you across the trail unpredictably fast.
I teach and emphasize these things because I have made the mistakes. I have cut people off and caused collisions. These things are easily avoidable. Don’t learn the hard way like I did.
Definitely be mindful of the other people on the mountain! It’s always your responsibility if you crash into someone, and collisions are one of the biggest dangers in the mountain. so make sure to shred with that in mind:)
So many people cannot look around and snowboard at the same time!m
@@gboates you’re right many people need to focus on where they are going. Carving is a high level skill, and dangerous. if people aren’t gonna be aware of their surrounding because they have to focus on where they are trying to turn, they should probably not carve on a busy trail. Or stop frequently and keep accessing traffic. If you’re capable of looking around, the finish phase of the toeside turn gives you plenty of time to look uphill and access potential risks for the next two turns.
Carving the way Taevis does is certainly dangerous to other people. These opinions about how to carve, if applied, will also put people in danger. Carving itself, when done by someone who actually knows what they're doing is not unpredictable.
@@Joeydanger63
I wish everyone would look uphill before carving because downhill skier has right of way but don’t be an idiot and make the hardest carve you possibly can when someone is right behind you, mostly I feel like this is a beginners problem though because they are so focused on not falling and trying to carve they don’t realize what going on around them
What a terrific video. This guy's a good communicator.
wow. ive watched probably 100 videos for snowboarding tips, and this one pretty much takes the cake. my favorite video yet. thank you.
We are stoked to hear it!!! We plan to make many high quality videos this winter💪
interesting. I was thinking they need Neil back
@@tstevensontube I've no idea who Neil is, i just like the tips mentioned
Good video, but the mogul part is odd. They are challenging, but if you get good at them, ride between the bumps, keep your knees soft, and keep your upper arms quiet, you’ll get better and better at it, and once they get easy you suddenly aren’t burning up a bunch of energy getting down them. Then throw in switch riding and use moguls as jumps for 180s and 360s, etc. You become such a stronger rider on all terrain, including park, and you’ll murder tree runs. Heel side scraping down then to “survive” a mogul field is doing yourself a disservice and looks noobish, even if you aren’t. The snowboard community is dead wrong about moguls, get good at them and hit them when they’ve got a couple inches of fresh and it’s like a mini terrain park.
This right here is it folks! Learn to love the bumps! Being able to stay on your front foot and ride both edges down bumpy terrain seamlessly will advance your riding anywhere on the mountain.
100%, most youtuber snowboarders that talk about moguls in their videos don't ride them properly, and the ones that are former pros or high level instructors can charge through them when needed but don't care to much for videos since it's boring AF to watch unless they are spaced perfectly (rarely happens) where you can pop a spin or two in the middle of them.
We should have put more time into the Falling Leaf Carve, Because if we did you would see that it's another way to add style and flow to hard bumpy slopes, leeting you do even more spins and awesome lines! Also just a note, a proper Falling Leaf Carve has no more side slip then any other carve. It just starts more like a side slip when learning it:)
Taevis is working hard to get better at teaching what he knows, and we are stoked for what he has planned for this winter!
100% The Falling Leaf should only be learned after you get your toe side carves locked in:)
Right! we have a lot of double black mogul fields in whistler, and they are not the most relaxing thing to ride on icy days no matter your skill level haha
I am old af. And this is years of knowledge right here all in 12 minutes.
We are glad you think so! Much more content coming soon😁
Good stuff! Let's breakdown body movements used to "set" those edges using flexion & extension, torsion, twist, etc to move our center of mass over the effective edge in simple terms. Carving well is life changing! 🏂🤙
For sure! we will be adding more clear details in the future. thanks for the support!@@richardkadar7673
the falling leaf stuff for the moguls is life changing! thank you!
You're so welcome!
I read a lot of controversy in the comments of this video for sure. I've only been coaching for 25 yrs with 20+ as AASI certified...but maybe pull this one down and produce another one, or maybe 2 new videos to get the point across better?
We are going to be going deeper into all these topics for sure!!! We are not going to be taking down this video, since when you look at the information it's great. But we are going to do a diffrent procces for making videos in the future, what won't put so much pressure on the rider to teach when shredding, so you can look forward to some great content coming this winter!
@@SnowboardAddiction well than maybe get someone to do the videos that actually has edgecontroll and a decent riding level outside the park
Very useful, and will certainly give it a try
Just got another couple of days in Northstar before season ending. I finally was able to do some S turns. It was very mentally tough for me to switch between heel edge and toe edge. One thing that really helped this time was I got a brand new board and binding. I can't believe how much of a difference a good board/binding really makes. I use to get a terrible shin pain when practicing toe edges but with these new board and binding it is really nice. I was facing issue where I am switching to toe carve without first getting on the toe edge and that caused me to lose control. Then I tried to kick my back foot out more when switching carve and it helped me switch to toe carve a lot quicker and with more control. I think I am starting to get why we need to do some speed checking. I didn't know that you cannot switch between S turns when going too fast. I thought the whole point was S turns gives you control when you are going fast. But I saw that I lost control very quickly when going too fast. I still have a pretty cheap boot so I am still getting feet pain and feels that there are too much wiggle room when I switch carves. When I try to tighten my boots more then I start to lose circulation lol. Not too sure what is normal feeling for boots.
Sounds like your making gains! Finding the right boot is always hard, you want them to be tight with no wiggle but also not hurt. Easier said then done, we recommend trying on as many boots as possible!!!
And when the snow is super good you can do faster deeper carves, but other then that too much speed makes it hard.
Kee shredding!!!
The tip for using falling leaf during moguls and trees is super helpful for someone like me who gets beat up by both of those terrains!😅
Happens to the best of us! Haha hopefully this trick will increase your enjoyment going through that kind of terrain🙌🏻
As someone who listened to some people who told me to learn the leaf technique first, now after three years of riding experience I can tell you DO NOT. It's pointless, it's worthless, it doesn't teaches you anything. SEND IT! As soon as I dropped beginner techniques and started carving, my riding skill improved within few days. Next winter I was flying the piste like I was snowboarding for 5 years and not 1 season of 7 days...
If I remember correctly, SA has a great tutorial on bump riding that can help you get through them without reverting to the falling leaf. Falling leaf will get you down the hill but I would recommend checking out the bump video. Learning to make turns in moguls (vs. resorting to falling leaf) will dramatically change your riding for the better all over the mountain. The best part about snowboarding is always being able to improve your ability.
I would also argue that using falling leaf will save you energy, its a great way to burn out your quads. Being able to ride through the bumps on both edges provides relief to muscle groups, therefore conserving energy.
It teaches things, as someone who can send it with ease, i like to use it now and then here and there. Not the only tool to use, but it's a good one when used right!@@vanjamenadzer
Great video! On tip 1, after getting on your toe or heel edge, can you elaborate on the "drive thru" technique? Thanks!
Yes! We will make a better video on this topic:)
Basically taevis is saying once you get your edge locked in, you can push up off the snow to speed up your turns.
So you get on your edge and drive your power through your legs.
@@SnowboardAddictionmake a better video and delete this one. These are dubious tips at best, and the demos are really poor. It's not a carving video when you spend most of the time taking about falling leaf and skidded turns.
Can one not also get the edge locked in, and then squeeze down more, and also speed up your turns?
@@SnowboardAddiction
Yup
@@theinfamoustuba
Great video. One of the best.
Glad you enjoyed it!
....will try some of that.
Music sounds familiar...figured it out at the end....it's the riff from this year's evo ad...the one with mtb riders...
Nothing like royalty free music to connect our sports😂
Can't wait to incorporate these techniques when the season starts
I actually appreciate the “falling leaf” carving on moguls tip. I agree that one doesn’t have to waste so much energy shooting down a narrow channel under the lifts or on dense and hard packed moguls. Watching the difference in your ease and flow of movement convinces me that there can be more than one way. There’s no reason people can’t go down the slopes with modifications. We don’t all have to do it the same old way if it doesn’t work for us.
Thank you!!! Happy to be able to help:) I want to make a video talking about these topics more in depth now that I have more experience making videos.
Because I have a lot more to say on the topics!
Really awesome descriptions
So good! I wish I could click like 100 times.
Thank you!!! We will strive to keep making great videos💪
I can't believe that despite the ENORMOUS amount of snowboard videos I watched in my life, you can still come out with advices I've never heard before... 😂 And none of them that is not gonna be useful.. I'm amazed 😁🤯 thannnnks can't wait to try it all
Glad you like them! You can expect a lot more awesome videos coming soon😁
Great video !
Oooof! Certainly some dangerous moments during the first segment. I'm also not understanding the thought process behind teaching the falling leaf technique in a carving video. I recommend SA to students all the time, but this video has me questioning whether the riders have any formal instructing experience at all.
Thanks for the feedback! Taevis is still learning how to best make videos, But we are confedent that with time you will see he is the real deal!
We understand that the Falling Leaf is known as a biggener bad way to snowboard. But at the end of the day it's a heel side to switch heelside carve, and can be done with great style and great flow!
We should have shown how Taevis uses it in his riding, but it's a great tool when used in the right way:)
As Paul Howard says, there's no such thing as bad snowboarding; there's only consequences. That said, the falling leaf in the video is not carving; it is skidding. And unless a rider is switching edges between turns, it is generally not referred to as "switch". And staying on one edge will result in depleting glycogen stores for heelside muscles much faster than alternating between toe and heel edge use on turns. @@SnowboardAddiction
love this vid🔥🔥🔥 u sound very kind must be a great instructor! Showing this video to my kids this weekend👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
That's awesome! thanks for the support:)
These are super helpful tips. Please let me know what boot size and snowboard waist width you use? Thanks.
Size 8 boots, 157 board 22.5 with -6 +9 stance:)
Do you prefer stiffer boots over the medium boots? Even for park riding?
We get as stiff of boots as we can handle. Its not super crucial, but the bigger the features you ride the more stiff boots help.
Since they let you deal with high speed and support your ankles more, what is crucial on 60 foot jumps!
I can imagine that after you do 100 years of teaching others how to snowboard you finally graduate to be THE CAMERAMAN
There is an art to follow-cam'ing, deffinately not as easy as people think!
@@SnowboardAddiction
my point exactly
everyone is focused on what you do
but all the time I am thinking how hard it must be for the camera guy to not only keep up with you but also not hit u, avoid others and film u
Thanks alot 🙏👍
Happy to help!
I’ve seen a ton of carving videos and this has been one of the best illustrations I’ve seen. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
@@SnowboardAddictionit's not. Do better.
looked more like one of the worst to me
Thanks a lot! Also love the board colours ❤
Great tips! Thanks for another very useful video🙌🏻
great video! where was this filmed?
Whistler Blackcomb
Good stuff
Falling Leaf tech for moguls! Thanks!
very solid tips!
These tips are so unique and useful when you think about them
Stoked you were able to get some value from them!!!
Carving safety should always be mentioned and emphasized in an educational carving segment. Carving is dangerously unpredictable to other riders. Choice of terrain is important, you chose a very dangerous place during tip 1 and almost ran into several other riders. That was a teachable moment. I teach students to Do all of the following. #1 Never carve in high traffic areas, riders tend to come in waves so if you must, maybe wait and let the traffic go. #2 Always look around and uphill often while carving. even if your the downhill rider carving takes you across the trail unpredictably fast.
I teach and emphasize these things because I have made the mistakes. I have cut people off and caused collisions. These things are easily avoidable. Don’t learn the hard way like I did.
For sure a good thing to teach!
I just started learning to carve any other tips for safer riding?😊
Think of your board as a shield, you aways want it to be protection your only venturing away from it when you know your safe:)
great tips!
Great tips
That leafing thru tree is useful (i use this as im a beginner in traversing narrow trees), but you may need to be comfortable riding switch as if you are leafing too much, it kills your speed and you can get stuck
For sure! Next time we will spend more time talking about use cases and what to avoid :)
Totally off topic, but what jacket and pants are Taevis wearing here? Really like the pattern on the jacket :D
The jacket is from yuki threads, and the pants are from tolasmik, who you can find on snowears.com
@@SnowboardAddictionI knew it, I'm in the same jacket lol!
How is the mic quality so good
We got good mics! i'd tell you the name if i knew, but sadly i have no clue haha
Where is this?
Whistler!
I use the falling leaf to get back down the hill after I wreck myself on a jump
And, Buy your cameraman a beer. He killed it.
Did you guys have to edit out a collision 😅
Nope hahaha no one was hit during the making of this video!
The cameraman is GOD!
Taevis is a bad ass asset and when he talks I’m considering it wise to listen but I wanta ride well and not get hurt… Anymore, so…
Riding without getting hurt is always the goal! Planning and foresight is the key:)
What mittens are those? 🔥
Right! They are a Mitt made by the Canadian Snowboard Team, we are not sure if they are available for retail.
Taevis for X Games!!! (Definitely recommend closing off the carve rather than washing it out.)
What resort is this? Thanks
Whistler!
Thanks i just learned carving last season this is really going to help! 👍
great tips! and you rip too!
As a beginner I accidentally found this attribute to turning very smooth! Makes it way less stressful to also feeling your edges!!!
Great to hear!
Is it just me or is this guy sailing past people in the family zone......3:00 it looked like he spray a dude.....
We definitely recommend filming when there is less people, but Taevis was never at risk of hitting anyone. He’s rather solid with this snowboard thing haha
There's not a real good way to sugar coat this, but he was certainly at risk of hitting other riders at several different points. I would perhaps retitle the video "5 life ending carving tips" @@SnowboardAddiction
@@katieweimer6333
If you actually think there was a risk I’ll clear up a couple of things, first it was a normal green run not a family zone.
Second there was only 1 time I came close to bumping someone, and that’s because they were in my blind spot.
But I was ahead and had right away, that’s why they saw me turning toward them, what let us get the time to easily separate.
If he did a super aggressive turn at the same time we still wouldn’t have hit one another, because he would have ended up behind me.
I’ve been snowboarding a long time, and I know what it means to almost hit someone. This was not one of those cases.
@taeviskapalka8359 Easy Out is clearly marked all over the place as a family/slow/safety zone (whatever name you want to give it).
In the video, you make audible 'Whoops'-type noises when you get too close to someone, FOR YOUR OWN COMFORT.
Being ahead is not the only thing that matters when it comes to mountain safety. Read the code if you're going to quote 'rights'.
if i felt like it was a close call i would have addressed it. i have been a whistler local for 6 years and i take safety very seriously. i have never ran into anyone when carving, and that's not from chance. im sorry the angle of the clip made you worry about the people in the video, but i felt very in control the whole time. and was paused many times on the run, someone could have said something at any time. you can think whatever you want. i just hope you see that it was not a big deal for anyone involved. and i hope you keep watching our videos. our goal is to improve peoples riding and we are always working on improving! @@domoshanek
Pretty sure that skier lady thought you were spraying snow at her cuz she just kept staring at you afterwards haha
Most definitely haha
No, skier lady was upset for good reason because Taevis didn't plan his demo right and almost hit her.
Nice
I've been snowboarding since i was 12, i had an hour lesson and picked it up that day. im a decent snowboarder with good edge control trying to improve me style and buttering let alone park. with that said i have had some success teaching my girlfriend and sisters how to board but on the other hand i feel so overwhelmed teaching somebody and feel as though there are 100s of different ways and techniques and analogies when teaching someone how to turn and link turns on a board if that makes sense. anybody feel me?
and then there is the whole bunch of "why your not carving even though you thought you were" type of videos geared at people such as myself with my skill level I've described. ugh lmfao
Glad I am not the only one who has heel judder... 😆
I feel like this video was saying “so to get better at carving you should be better at carving”. Words like “drive” and “set” have no meaning if you don’t explain the mechanics of what you’re doing.
We get what you are saying! This wasn't a video on how to carve, but instead, a few tips to improve your carving and give you some different things to practice, if we do a video about carving it will be much more detailed!
Instead of moving your arm try to balance your body.Stay centered over the board,always charge your front foot,this will allow the board to work the way it supposed to.
Back arm isn’t used for balance here, Taevis just likes putting his arm up. Sorry for the confusion.
No, you didn't lost your film maker. How can he be so precise at that speed? 😱
Years of practice and great communiction with the rider! :)
This video justifies my usage of falling leaf at a steep mogule slope! Also, I feel good that he also wants to avoid mogule slopes. I really don't enjoy mogule since snowboard cannot make a short turn like ski.
For sure! It’s not a carve you want to use everywhere or rely on. But it’s awesome for getting through annoying patches of terrain😁
Love me some moguls.
And trees. I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to enjoy turning. Falling leaf feels like something you do when you’re unable to make a turn.
Edit: I see the carving application. Still not gonna falling leaf in trees.
Fair enough! We mostly use it when someone suddenly pops in front of you. So instead of stopping or doing a sketchy edge change you can falling leaf out of the way.
If I didn't know snowboard addiction was trying to be a serious instruction channel I would think this was a comedy/parody bit. Maybe 40% of those turns were even locked in carves and you almost nailed a bunch of people. Then we learned how to burn out our quad muscles in the bumps with a heelside sideslip in the bumps like a beginner, which has nothing to do with carving. I'm a 20 year vet of instructing and train all of our new instructors, and if I saw this kind of riding while shadowing you, you wouldn't be taking lessons on your own. This was bad technique, poor instruction and downright dangerous...where was ski patrol when those poor patrons needed them? I would personally pull down this video and try again. For those of you watching, don't listen to any of this and head over to Ryan Knapton's channel if you're truly interested in learning to carve.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! we are sorry that we didn't explain these tips in a way that made sense to you. Taevis as good of a snowboarder as he is is still learning how to properley show what he knows. But Taevis is a top level rider and is stoked to keep learning and teach us what he knows, what is a lot! If you don't value that no worries, but you can expect great content coming soon!
What a hater. His carves were solid besides when he was showing what not to do. And falling leaf may be used by beginners but it’s also a legitimate technique for getting through steep, mogully terrain safely.
@SnowboardAddiction I'm glad to hear it. I don't mean to hate on the kid, I'm sure he's a good kid. In the future I'm sure he'll be safer about filming his parts too. I have sent my own students to your videos in the past and appreciate your content. It's important to set a good example though, and I preach at the top of my lungs during my lessons about safety, fun and then learning, in that order. That other dude called me a hater, okay fine, but I would never send someone to this video because it's a very bad example and violates all kinds of safety rules. I wish you guys well and hope Taevis continues to make great content for you and learns from any criticism. I've seen some serious accidents in my career of instructing, and 4 people have died very avoidable deaths on the mountains I've worked at in my time. I'm pretty serious about safety and have no room for irresponsible nonsense.
@@cavan1979No stress man, snowboarding is a subjective sport, and I always value others opinions.
I think your wrong and that I know vastly more about snowboarding then you do.
But you are definitely correct about setting the precedent for mountain safety, even tho no one was in danger at any point. The fact it’s up for debate is not ok for a video.
And I see the value in your experience as a coach and the skills that must come with.
I have very limited bigger snowboarding experiences, and I can see how people could use the falling leaf as a way to never fully learn to snowboard, instead of just a usful tool.
Most of my experience is in freestyle and I’ve been riding at a very high level for a long time.
So i over looked some things last year.
But this year I can guarantee we are going to make some videos that if they don’t teach you something knew, what I think they will. Then you will be shocked with how well we visualize and deliver the information!
So thanks again for your criticism! our goal is to improve your riding. And a little bit of feedback sure goes a long way to achieving that goal🏄
I would love to see you, redo this entire video and apply the K. I. S. S. Approach to teaching and coaching. Keep it simple and SAFE. Rather than bombarding viewers with way too much information on a busy slope bring your terrific enthusiasm and advanced skill sets to a small group of 3 intermediate, snowboarders and make a video which teaches them 1, 2, 3 skills. Do a demonstration, commenting ONLY on what the kids (or say older adults like me over 60 L O L )are doing correctly. Subsequent videos will track everyone’s progress as you keep it real simple infusing your video with tons of praise success and love of the sport. I am aching to see content providers, and “experts” effectively communicate and transmit skills to others.
Just go straight down. The euro carve was cool
Big toe in the snow is an easy tip to remember. Your core isn’t strong enough to ride the way you’re teaching.
We agree, Taevis is hella weak haha
@@SnowboardAddiction not trying to be mean, as i fall in and out of strength to not break at the waist on carves too. We need someone squatier with stove pipe thighs for the upright carve demo.
@@AL_KING777oh man no stress, but I for sure could do any carve at any level. This was just a demonstration well talking.
Next time we do a carving video I’ll prioritize getting some smexy carves for you.
I just didn’t know I had to prove how good at snowboarding I was in every video we do😢😂
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate it!
@@SnowboardingExplained riding an edge on the snow is easy, and wasn’t my point. As mentioned I wasn’t trying to offend anyone, more relating. Appears we’re similar build 6 foot, 170-175, and I was relating to core and leg strength not always holding up for myself personally, and you in some of the shots, you’re breaking at the waist on toe side, direct correlation to core strength. the instructional vids aren’t geared towards me, but I watch them in hopes of picking up new tips, always learning.
No offence taking, i was trying to make a joke haha it is just funny since i used to do an ab blaster series so i had to retort. you can expert a lot of new tips coming soon! thanks for your support:) @@AL_KING777
Too damn busy for videos lol
Thanks for good tips, Ive been always indoctrinated in the theory that style is ALL. Tip 3 may save you some energy but it is not as stylish as when you become aggressive with your toe heel transitions.
We should have put a portion in the video of how taevis uses this carve, because it can be sick!!!
The thing to remember with the falling leaf carve, is it can’t be your only carve, but when you master it and link it in with the other aspects of your snowboarding it can be really fun!
hmmmm not sure if this is the best video on carving...the falling leave on mogul not will exhaust people, which is dangerous since people can't hold their postures anymore, but also reinforces the wrong memory muscles. Ryan Knapton or James Cherry's videos might be a better start
Not the best video, just 5 tips.
We will give more details in future videos:)
For advanced heel edge carves, you need to open up your lead shoulder. It's a good idea to watch surfers and copy their style. I can feel the same power as I do on a toeside carve!
Also, carving into a spin can have bad results if you're not careful. I found out the hard way that if you lean your center of mass too far past the edge of the board off a park jump, you can land horizontally and get injured.
You definitely don’t need to open your upper body for heel side carves, but you do want to in some instances.
And every single snowboarder in the world does some form a setup carve when spinning.
It’s really really hard to spin without edge pressure:)
You do if you want them to feel good and look good ;) I agree that there's a set-up carve, maybe I didn't understand your advice in the video. It sounded like you were saying "just carve right over the lip of the jump". You do the setup carve to get onto the correct edge, but you have to straighten out and get your balance back over the board if you want a flat spin. Thanks for the reply!@@SnowboardAddiction
@@lukejuras8024Don’t worry man, I didn’t learn back 10s without learning the proper steps of a setup carve haha
We’re gonna do a whole series on frontside and backside spins, so this was just a little thing I like to do when training.
Working on getting better at explaining things, please be patient!
Or don’t your call, but I would appreciate it haha
Yeah I was a little harsh, sorry! I'll edit.@@SnowboardingExplained
@@SnowboardingExplained I didn't get up as much as I wanted to last year, but every time I was focused on carving. 2:30 getting speed control on steep runs was my main goal, no scrubbing allowed. It's possible with higher edge angle > more flexed board > tighter turns. I'm still working on details and style, but here's what it looks like after a season of about 15-20 days on the snow: ua-cam.com/video/LrzVkubHRv8/v-deo.htmlsi=as1iLQOPeMwRNftZ&t=8 162W Burton Custom X with Ions/Step-ons.
First step. Switch to a forward stance. Unless you're super skilled like Ryan Knapton then duck stance will not work. Even so its clear that his stance limits his carve ability(to be fair he likes butters and all that stuff). If wanna actually learn to "carve" look to alpine snowboarders or to softboot carving in Asia.
We teach snowboarding with a all mountain park mindset, but a forward stance works great if you only want to carve:)
The amount of people he pissed off and cut off .... yikes. Just look at how they look at him when he gets close.
And maybe falling leaf moguls for beginners only. Otherwise, we just ride that shit.
you can use whatever carve you want. i started doing it a couple heres ago, and i really like it for getting through some chaw after a wet pow day. you can get really fricken good at it, and then once you do you can start using it for tricks! i will make a video showing how cool it can be as soon as we get some snow:)
You should not be promoting the falling leaf technique anywhere. This is just a glorified heel slip and terrible snowboarding. Not to mention in ruins the snow.
We’re sorry we couldn’t convey how awesome this carve is here.
Normally when you use it it’s because the snow is already too damaged to want to hold a toe edge.
But if you do use it on a groomer, you can actually making it super steezy and hold clean edges the whole way down.
You shouldn’t limit your techniques, and instead master them so you can add flow and be a more rounded rider💪
@@SnowboardAddictionfalling leaf isn't a carve.
You should be able to hold a toe edge on anything. Toe edge is much more stable and secure if you are doing it right. If you can't make turns on the terrain, you don't belong there. Most of your content is useful, but this is just plain bad.@@SnowboardAddiction
Good advice, is a bit annoying that every sentence ends with a question mark lol
We are moving to a more structured form of content so everything will be a lot more direct and clear this season!
Almost none of this was carving tips. Falling leaf through bumps is carving? More like tips for beginners to survive a bump field.
We are sorry we didn't manage to show you how awesome these tips are in this video! we will work hard to make these tips easier to understand in the future. Thanks for your support:)
I got a lot out of it. A range of techniques and timings to handle different terrain
I thought the same initially but as the video unfolds he shows how you can use that technique with your carving. Pay attention
This is carving
What are you talking about? Did we watch the same video?
As a certified instructor of many years, don’t listen to this guy! He does not know what he is talking about!
Oh surprising! I thought I knew a thing or two about snowboarding, silly me.
Happy to have you school me in a game of snow anytime😉
I have to agree. At this point I'm just here for the comments because the video had me rolling.
Taevis has a lot to learn about making videos, but he is working hard at it. What we are so stoked about! it is very rare for a snowboarder at his level to take a step back and teach and we can't wait to see what he makes this winter:)
Very cool! rolling is the first step to learning any flip;)
His level? From what I’m seeing he is an intermediate rider at best!
It’s 2023 maybe start using chapters for tip vids ty
Good idea!
This is joke man read books , go to professional instructor and when you make videos and giving tips to the people use the true terminology ! Really bad tip for carving is using faling leaf , and this opened shoulders and rear hand awlays up ... Jerry things.
We will elaborate on the topics to a greater extent in the next videos✌️
Define carve please.
Edge in snow or carve in the name of the trick.
@@SnowboardAddiction I don't understand. Do you mean carve is the name of the trick? Also, what do you mean edge in the snow? Am I carving when my edge is in the snow? What if both edges are in the snow?
Uhh, nice video so thanks, but moguls "not feeling too good" is 100% a you thing!
We have never once had a snowboard we know suggest we should go ride moguls unless it’s 40cm of fresh haha
But we are stoked to hear that someone is getting enjoyment out of them!
@@SnowboardAddiction 😂
@@SnowboardAddiction Bumps are my favorite!
@@SnowboardAddiction I recommend moguls to every snowboarder who is trying to progress beyond the beginner/intermediate level. If you can turn effectively in moguls, you can turn effectively anywhere.
Good to know! i only see them as a hassle or something to bomb through. But now that i think about it i was stoke the first time i did a double black mogul field when i was a kid. im much more into snake runs now tho, they just are so much less icy and made for snowboarders instead of skiers, whats nice haha @@theinfamoustuba
bro cut off half the mountain in the first two minutes
We will try filming on less busy days in the future:)
Pretty disappointing to see that Fallingleaf is being taught as a carving technique
We will show how it can be used better in future videos:)
This video is bad and you should feel bad. How is this "carving tips" when a third of it is a falling leaf lesson and the another third is homie almost colliding with beginners in the "family zone?" I think this also is the first carving video I've seen where the person demoing doesn't actually do any carving.
It’s normal for people to have a negative impression of the falling leaf carve, since it’s mostly seen used by people just starting to learn to snowboard.
But you should never blame the tool, when used properly it is a super dope stylish carve, next time I will definitely show it off a bit more😁
@@SnowboardingExplained falling leaf is not a carve. You're using the wrong term, which will confuse beginner riders.
It is when you do it right! it just takes practice and skill to pull it off. We hope you can get it next season!
@@SnowboardAddiction if it is a carved maneuver, why didn't the demo guy ever show it that way?? Every single falling leaf he demos is a skid, which isn't a carve. If you use "carve" and "turn" as synonymous, you're wrong. Is it just semantics? Maybe, but these words actually do MEAN something, and for a channel called snowboard addiction, I expect better. I'm super looking forward to next season instructing when I have to tell people what "carve" means when they watch videos like this and get wrong information. It's really fun for me.
FYI- the thing he calls a euro carve is also not a euro carve.
@@SnowboardAddiction look at it this way- every time I'm doing a 180 from now on I'm going to call it a 720, because they're both spins, so they're the same thing right? Does that make sense to you?
I love moguls on a board
more groomers for us!
@@SnowboardAddiction I like those too 😂
Not a good time to make a video
Definitely not haha But we have a bunch of amazing videos we want to make and post this winter, so we gotta get these up and out of the way😁
If you ride duck you need more luck!
Stopped watching when I saw him raising his arm when doing heel side carving. Not sure why SA uploaded this.
this is a poor instructional video. am disappointed. proper, courteous snowboarding does NOT ride like that in traffic. he came too close to others too many times. an accident waiting to happen. The instructor needs a safety and a courtesy lesson or be banned from the area. reckless, dangerous, inconsiderate snowboarding. I love to carve and ride fast but, I do it when am alone on the run and always aware of my surroundings. this includes a healthy look up when on my toe side.
Taevis won’t be banned, he is far safer then normal people on the mountain.
If your riding whistler it will be busy, but taevis has not ran into anyone in 6 years if shedding here so we think he knows what he’s doing💪
Sorry dude. May be you r good at park but it is to early for you to teach how to carve
We have a new format for videos this winter that should make Taevis able to fully display what he knows. Because you don't get good at park if you don't master how to carve. so we will lock in our format so there is no doubt about the advice in the future!
Step 1 don’t attempt to work on your carves on the most crowded ski run possible. Step 2 don’t try to film a carving tip instruction video on the most crowded ski run possible.
Step 3 Be happy :)