@@akasha924 Yeah lol but I was ok without the squids or the hints towards Rorshak being a sexist racist. These things although were not in the film I did not feel that they were missing lol.
This is one of the most beautifully written and thought provoking chapters I’ve ever read. Not just in graphic novels but in any literature. How it makes you think about time, fate, omniscience, the galaxy. All the metaphors, tragedy, humanity, introspection. It’s always stayed with me.
Agreed, I thought this was a cool comic when I read the first 3 issues (Yes, I'm that old). The opening inner dialog blew my mind. I too realized this was special.
@Luke Starkiller I don't think the DC comics multiverse is relevant to Watchmen's greatness. Or at least the Zack Snyder film, HBO show, unnecessary crossover series & reluctant 'franchise' status are not relevant imo. Mainly because of those three I only think the HBO show is worthy of existing as an extension of the original, but also because Watchmen is a criticism of superhero comics made by a man who dislikes superhero fans with the comic series operating perfectly well as a standalone piece of literature too rather than just another pillar of DC's multiverse or just another successful comic series that *needs* to become an expanded franchise . Not to sound like I'm dissing your opinion though, you're allowed to feel how you feel for sure. Just for me personally, I think all of the franchise, the comic brand & multiverse, the spinoffs, etc are all irrelevant to original comic's status.
What a wonderful way to present this epic material. Hearing it presented like this I am struck by the hopelessness in Jons tone. For all his power, he seems the most trapped of anyone.
Is it just me, or did John feel a certain degree of guilt for Janey? I got the feeling that he was going through the motions with her because he wanted her to be happy, but eventually he realized that he simply couldn't give her what she wanted. Its like when he said "the world is moving forward and I'm standing still."
Late reply, it was how he told the experience of time from the perspective of someone who is outside of it. Where the past, present, and future are practically the same to him. Blew my mind.
@@falaflani4831Now you're just being an asshole. They still had to adapt it into a motion comic. No matter how similar it is to the original product, that fact remains unchanged.
21:30 the voice for Adrian literally sounds like a young Jeremy irons who portrays him in HBO’s Watchmen 2019, or maybe the casting was just so oddly perfect.
Reminds me of gryff from men in black 3, but with alternate futures instead of Manhattan living through different times simultaneously in his mind's eye. That is scary to know your relationships highs and lows before she even talks
@@daustin8888 I mean The guy literally does not see the difference between past and the present, as he sees all of it at once so something that happened 40 years ago would be the same as something that is gonna happen 2 minutes ago, I just like that Alan Moore also wrote that detail consistently.
15:30 'bout to end this man's whole career. Not really though. It's not like electric cars dont have mechanical parts. Hollister has a cozy house in the end.
Ohhhh.... his trouble with women was foreshadowed by the bit about Einstein at the start. Fuck. Why did I never pick up on that until now????? He was losing his humanity wondering if he’s human at all anymore... but he still has woman troubles “guess he’s only human after all.” Fuck...
Of course a 16-year old beautiful girl falls in love with a blue emotionless freak in a swimming suit. And 10 years later she leaves him, because of the very same reasons. Many logic, such relatable.
Wyatt Evans I would disagree. The graphic novel has various other elements like panelling, gutter space and sequence which provides an entirely different experience of the series.
It is 2009, a watchmen movie is being made. It is 1986 I'm opening the book, 33 years have passed, HBO is making a show. It is 2003 a watchmen movie has been declared "unfilmable." It is 1987 I'm finishing the last chapter.
@@brianramirez8255 I liked Dr Manhattan in the movie, but the movie itself don't do justice to the masterpiece that Watchmen is. But the HBO show truly is a shitshow.
@@audio.video.disco. There were a lot of great creative decisions in the show but I think the overall quality is questionable. I think it's definitely more thought out than the movie where they tried to make everything "cool."
"I have never met someone so deliberately amoral. He suits the climate here: the madness, the pointless butchery. As I come to understand Vietnam and what it implies about the human condition, I also realize few humans will permit themselves such an understanding. Blake's different. He understands perfectly...and he doesn't care." God damn...
I don't know why, but the reading done in this for this chapter always is so calming to me. Listening to Manhattan explain himself is weirdly relaxing.
I watched the Movie, thought it was interesting Saw this, realized some things in this reality that should not be touched by Hollywood But if it weren't for the movie would I have found the Novel It it weren't for the abridged adaptation that is the 2009 film, would I have ever found this masterpiece *Who makes the world?* It's too late, always has been
I wholeheartedly agree the comic series is better and I'm hardly a Snyder or really a fan of the movie..but I also don't think the film was *that* bad either or that it stands as an example of Hollywood butchering a beloved piece of literature. I still think Zack Snyder seemingly achieved the impossible by adapting the Watchmen story as well as he did. It wasn't perfect by any means, but I still think it's probably the best we could've got for a Watchmen movie, considering how lofty & unwise the task of adapting it is. (i do understand the original comment was more of a joke setup rather than a truly deep criticism though)
I have a love/hate relationship with the film. Sure it introduced me to one of the greatest literary works of the 20th century but at the same time it also changed and left out a bunch of the material that made the Watchmen universe so wholesome and captivating. I will say that it is an “interesting” adaptation to say the least. The motion picture comic does it much more justice.
This is a modern day great literary work and narrative, to equal anything done by other great writers and storytelles such as Shakespierre or even Homer... And like most of those great artists, their greatness is seldom celebrated as is merited, in their own time...
If you can't remember how the name of someone as well known as Shakespeare is spelled, then can we really trust that you have the literary knowledge to claim this as good as Shakespeare and Homer's work? I mean you can like it for sure & lavish it with praise, but I don't like that perspective of everything being a masterpiece or genius or comparable with __ and ___. I see the same type of comments a lot in conversations about music too. I just think it'd be better to hold off comparing people until you've actually done the research and spent a lifetime diving into the history of the subject that we're talking about so you can truly say what's as good as what. But if you were just comparing it to the Angry Dad comic book then never mind..in that case I'd agree this is up there with Homer & Bart's work.
This is something the movie didn't get into, Dr. Manhattan's perception of time. He's in all of time all the time. For him all of time is just the present, not the past or the future, just the present. That's awsome
the two arent mutually exclusive lol. but yeah youre right its not a comic book since this is a motion comic so its devoid of half of what makes Watchmen so great by experiencing the boundary pushing pinnacle of the comic book medium in comic book form.
The main downside to all of the Motion Comics, is that it leaves the page or two of excerpts that each chapter ends with. All of that sets the tone as the chapter ends and some how prepares you for the following chapter.
nah. the main downside to motion comics is it's a completely different way of experiencing the story from how the original creators intended. I don't have a problem with people watching motion comics, but if you think motion comics are just like normal comics aside from _that_ one downside you mentioned then I'd have to disagree with you a lot. For a casual reader/viewer who only wants the story, motion comics can be fine. But if you want the reading experience, the intended pacing, the visual look & arrangement of a comic book and so many more aspects that are *especially* relevant for Watchmen as the quintessential representation of the comic book medium's boundaries, then you're selling yourself short by just settling for a motion comic and thinking chapter ends are the only negative aspect. sorry if my comment sounded hostile though, I mean my comment respectfully, even if it is 5 years late & worded in an overly-matter-of-fact way :)
@@KaizerBeatz-vf9wf The score is great for these motion comics and gives me a greater sense of immersion. Whatever suits you but having fitting music suits me better.
Two hours into my past I collect a phonecall from my friend, telling me that another friend has committed suicide. I'm watching this now trying mitigate the hollow space inside of myself, not knowing what emotions I feel, or how to deal with the unknown inside of myself. This helps somewhat. He is still there two days into the past.
Wishing he could only live in the moment. Unable to escape from the curse of knowledge and emotion. Powerless against the reality of time. If god was human this would be his story. Literally comic book Jesus.
This chapter puts Moore into the same literary genius as Faulkner and Joyce. The structure of this is brilliant. Though I don’t think this video truly illustrates that structure as if you were reading the comic. In fact, in my opinion, it misses a representation of time that only comics can do. By using a panel structure we can see time in the same way as dr.manhattan. We naturally read them linearly but we also can see every panel presented on the page at once, just not in detail unless we study them individually. They all exist simultaneously in the same space at the same time on the same page. We can see johns memories of 1985 and of 1959 at the exact same time when they are shown on the same page. This perfectly mirrors the way The character sees time. He exists throughout the past present and future simultaneously though he has to focus on individual times in order to properly interact. Absolute genius. That kind of thing is why so many consider watchmen to be “unfilmable” it uses every aspect of the comic format in order to tell the story. Artwork, panel layout, lettering, page flipping, juxtaposition, etc. it makes the most of each aspect beautifully.
Personally a fave chapter, just rivalled by the rorsach origin chapter. Something genuinely haunting about how Dr Manhattans Omnipotence makes him observe events from several times and places at once looking back at his origin. Gives a seriously Dickensian Depth to the prose in this Avant Garde Superman's story.
The chapter is stating that the future is already predetermined and cannot possibly change. This means that all people, including doctor manhatan doesnt have free will and just follow the path of events in time. I have one question, when he says that he knows the future and that soon they will have sex what is stopping her to just dont do it? I mean is it possibly for someone to know the future if he is able to act freely? What is stopping her from acting differently than what is determined?
Her emotional reactions, bewilderment, fear, the need for comfort. It's all too much for Janey at that moment to process, too confusing. Jon is still the one constant in her life in 1963 and the only person she can turn to in order for things to make sense again, and she still loves him. That was what made their lovemaking after the argument inevitable, predetermined. Especially as it was yet another step on the way to their breakup three years later, part of the pattern of events.
God Analitical Philosophy as been trying to speculate on these argouments since the dawn of time. The basic idea is that you aren’t free because you can’t alter the past and the laws of Physics, so you have the illusion of begin free, but aren’t actually.
It can also be either his perception of time or his apathetic response to that perception. Maybe he only sees his future because he doesn't attempt to change the future and only really acts out his memory of the future simply happy to passively experience his memorys of the future he can see.
@@LordZontar should I make love with my cousin? I want to help with her bipolar issues, and doing it will comfort her and relax her in bed if I spend the night with her. I’m just trying to help, and she understands that I like spending time her, even though she has a boyfriend.
I like to think the Fatman crushing the watch is the bomb leading to the news paper. The paper leading to the watch being tossed, and on and on until dr Manhattan
This chapter was executed brilliantly. The music, the graphics, the narration of this incredible writing, all incredible. Does anybody know the name of the score?
Doctor is living in hell! He can't die, he knows every horrible thing that will happen and can't do anything about it, his perception of time is so skewed that his mind is detached from reality. Its like knowing everything that will happen and everything that you will do and just becoming a puppet in your own eyes.
@@Buntod I think it's really good for being inventive and taking a lot of the alternate world from the comics and running with it. It also has a lot of moments that seem confusing but pay off later so it's rewarding if you get invested. I can see why a lot of people don't like it though. Like the original, it's pretty overtly political, but the original is old enough that it's easier to get past that aspect. The fact that it takes its creative freedom and runs with it is always going to turn a lot of people off too. It's not for everyone but if you go in with an open mind and realize that the original was weird social commentary then it's not hard to see why fans would make the HBO series what it is.
God damn it... this writing is just...perfect.... Alan Moore, man. Say what you want about the guy but Jesus Christ... This isn’t the finest comic book ever written (it absolutely IS... but let me finish) it’s one of the finest pieces of writing ever put to paper.
This is what was missing from the movie. The writing on this characters perspective is some of the best of all time.
And squids.
@@akasha924 Yeah lol but I was ok without the squids or the hints towards Rorshak being a sexist racist. These things although were not in the film I did not feel that they were missing lol.
@@akasha924 The music of the film is amazing and adds a whole lot to the story.
@@amiracleone2803 I was mostly teasing. ❤️
@@amiracleone2803 and absolutely! 🎶 I am clearly a fan.. Haha
This is one of the most beautifully written and thought provoking chapters I’ve ever read. Not just in graphic novels but in any literature. How it makes you think about time, fate, omniscience, the galaxy. All the metaphors, tragedy, humanity, introspection. It’s always stayed with me.
It's pretty much the Tralfamadorians from Slaughterhouse Five
Alan Moore is a genius
Absolute genius, when I came to this chapter in the Watchmen I knew was reading a masterpiece
Thrasymachus Monk, what’s that supposed to mean?
Agreed, I thought this was a cool comic when I read the first 3 issues (Yes, I'm that old). The opening inner dialog blew my mind. I too realized this was special.
@Luke Starkiller I don't think the DC comics multiverse is relevant to Watchmen's greatness. Or at least the Zack Snyder film, HBO show, unnecessary crossover series & reluctant 'franchise' status are not relevant imo.
Mainly because of those three I only think the HBO show is worthy of existing as an extension of the original, but also because Watchmen is a criticism of superhero comics made by a man who dislikes superhero fans with the comic series operating perfectly well as a standalone piece of literature too rather than just another pillar of DC's multiverse or just another successful comic series that *needs* to become an expanded franchise .
Not to sound like I'm dissing your opinion though, you're allowed to feel how you feel for sure. Just for me personally, I think all of the franchise, the comic brand & multiverse, the spinoffs, etc are all irrelevant to original comic's status.
This episode is full of poetic philosophy , Best episode in the series !
I can see why he switched to the younger girl. She has the same voice after all.
😂😂😂
What a wonderful way to present this epic material. Hearing it presented like this I am struck by the hopelessness in Jons tone. For all his power, he seems the most trapped of anyone.
This is my favorite chapter
Mine too.
Is it just me, or did John feel a certain degree of guilt for Janey? I got the feeling that he was going through the motions with her because he wanted her to be happy, but eventually he realized that he simply couldn't give her what she wanted. Its like when he said "the world is moving forward and I'm standing still."
he did
What a wonderful novel and story.
The movie has nothing on this, holy shit when I read this it was eye opening
But that soundtrack though
pokey gorilla elaborate more?,wdym by eye opening?
Sushant K9 ye this soundtrack is fucking sick
Not at all two different experiences. Personally I prefer reading the graphic novel then watching this because it provides barely anything.
Late reply, it was how he told the experience of time from the perspective of someone who is outside of it. Where the past, present, and future are practically the same to him. Blew my mind.
“The light...the light is taking me to pieces.”
It must be exhausting being able to see events in your life happen in the past, present and future all simultaneously.
Comments: WAmeN VoiCeS
The narrator: Totally Indifferent.
the word masterpiece was invented to describe this chapter
Watchmen is unmatched. No comic book comes closes to this. Maybe The Dark Knight Returns.
The music and narration are incredible.
15:20 This was one of the coldest things to say. I don’t think Jon realized how insensitive it sounded. Informative, yeah; helpful, yeah?
"The morality of my activities escapes me..."
I think this adaptation is actually better than the movie.
This is the original book not an adaptation dummy
@@falaflani4831 The original book was *adapted* into a motion comic. That makes it an adaptation.
Don't be an ass.
@@robotspgc motion comic is just the comic dumbass
@@falaflani4831Now you're just being an asshole.
They still had to adapt it into a motion comic. No matter how similar it is to the original product, that fact remains unchanged.
@@robotspgc they are the same just moving sprites of the comic. Nothing has changed. That's like calling an audio book an adaptation
Watching this after HBO Watchmen Episode 7.
This chapter was pure genius fr
The lack of credit to Alan Moore (yes i am aware it was at his request) makes this motion comic seem like a clock without a craftsman
I saw the movie and never read the comics ,
so for me this is an expanded universe of the condensed but superb movie.
this...is...fucking...amazing"salivates"
The writing is so beautiful.
do not watch this on mushrooms
God of heaven that MUST BE terrifying!!!!
Dude! Tell me more!
Too late.
That would be so nerve-wrecking
21:30 the voice for Adrian literally sounds like a young Jeremy irons who portrays him in HBO’s Watchmen 2019, or maybe the casting was just so oddly perfect.
My head hurts
22:42 too epic for words
Reminds me of gryff from men in black 3, but with alternate futures instead of Manhattan living through different times simultaneously in his mind's eye. That is scary to know your relationships highs and lows before she even talks
Awesome Chapter and soundtrack.
This is the 420th comment. Something I am proud of. Also, this chanel deserves more views
Somewhat should make a cut of this with Pruit Igoe and Prophecies playing in the background
I want to marry and have children with this chapter
Literally same
Beautiful..a real treat to find.!
A Masterpiece
I really enjoy Moore’s adding that lil detail of Manhattan never using past or future pronouns (atleast in this segment)
It's always badass when people dont use the correct pronouns.
Don'tet anyone tell you different
@@daustin8888 I mean
The guy literally does not see the difference between past and the present, as he sees all of it at once so something that happened 40 years ago would be the same as something that is gonna happen 2 minutes ago, I just like that Alan Moore also wrote that detail consistently.
@@CoratMcRed shows Moore's great attention to detail
All gold comes from super novas
That was insane!
Best comic i know
too wobbly
15:30 'bout to end this man's whole career.
Not really though. It's not like electric cars dont have mechanical parts. Hollister has a cozy house in the end.
Wow
The playlist for these videos is out of order
Awesome!!!!!!!
Art
Dammit the playlist isn't in order
2021?
What's more epic..!
Ohhhh.... his trouble with women was foreshadowed by the bit about Einstein at the start. Fuck. Why did I never pick up on that until now?????
He was losing his humanity wondering if he’s human at all anymore... but he still has woman troubles “guess he’s only human after all.” Fuck...
2030, I Coom
Epic!!
watched-men
I wish they used females for the voices of the females lol
Why is Alan Moore not properly addressed?
He didn't want to be.
14:20 is histaricle.......he is suppose to be a "Crimefighter" so atomizes the poor guy...duh!!!! bad robot, bad robot..lol
Of course a 16-year old beautiful girl falls in love with a blue emotionless freak in a swimming suit. And 10 years later she leaves him, because of the very same reasons. Many logic, such relatable.
Stella Artois janey was already in love with jon.
I think their relationship went on for almost 20 years which is honestly pretty impressive.
Is this the same as reading the graphic novel?
Wyatt Evans I would disagree. The graphic novel has various other elements like panelling, gutter space and sequence which provides an entirely different experience of the series.
10:04 BLUE PENI!!!!!!!
what are you 4?
It is 2009, a watchmen movie is being made. It is 1986 I'm opening the book, 33 years have passed, HBO is making a show. It is 2003 a watchmen movie has been declared "unfilmable." It is 1987 I'm finishing the last chapter.
lol. this motion comic is all we need to experience the truth of watchmen. It has been bastardized by other media
@@brianramirez8255 I liked Dr Manhattan in the movie, but the movie itself don't do justice to the masterpiece that Watchmen is.
But the HBO show truly is a shitshow.
Benji Berigan I agree but one of things the movie did right was Rorschach. I think the actor played the manic that is Rorschach amazing
@@audio.video.disco. There were a lot of great creative decisions in the show but I think the overall quality is questionable. I think it's definitely more thought out than the movie where they tried to make everything "cool."
Awesome.
Wow
This chapter is a remarkable moment in literary history.
Seems I have read a lot of books...
Yep
@Please Complete All Fields yep
Took my breath away, almost out of nowhere, with the treatise on Time. I could not speak or even move for what felt like minutes.
@@claytonvernon5981 and again a YEP to you sir.
"I have never met someone so deliberately amoral. He suits the climate here: the madness, the pointless butchery. As I come to understand Vietnam and what it implies about the human condition, I also realize few humans will permit themselves such an understanding. Blake's different. He understands perfectly...and he doesn't care."
God damn...
Just like the Joker
@@islandboy9381 I think that’s the idea.
Only thing more disturbing is that Ozymandias made a plan that freaked out even the Comedian.
Dr. Manhattan: the most powerful being in the universe, absolutely powerless against the inevitable flow of time
Mister Bubbles deep.
Actually he can change it. He just doesn't care that much.
Bingo Bango he can change almost anything
@@t.veritas884 except human nature
@@Death_Korps_Officer thats what saved him
I don't know why, but the reading done in this for this chapter always is so calming to me. Listening to Manhattan explain himself is weirdly relaxing.
I watched the Movie, thought it was interesting
Saw this, realized some things in this reality that should not be touched by Hollywood
But if it weren't for the movie would I have found the Novel
It it weren't for the abridged adaptation that is the 2009 film, would I have ever found this masterpiece
*Who makes the world?*
It's too late, always has been
Clever, clever, clever. Well done.
I see what you did there...
I wholeheartedly agree the comic series is better and I'm hardly a Snyder or really a fan of the movie..but I also don't think the film was *that* bad either or that it stands as an example of Hollywood butchering a beloved piece of literature.
I still think Zack Snyder seemingly achieved the impossible by adapting the Watchmen story as well as he did. It wasn't perfect by any means, but I still think it's probably the best we could've got for a Watchmen movie, considering how lofty & unwise the task of adapting it is.
(i do understand the original comment was more of a joke setup rather than a truly deep criticism though)
I have a love/hate relationship with the film. Sure it introduced me to one of the greatest literary works of the 20th century but at the same time it also changed and left out a bunch of the material that made the Watchmen universe so wholesome and captivating. I will say that it is an “interesting” adaptation to say the least. The motion picture comic does it much more justice.
Very true.
This is a modern day great literary work and narrative, to equal anything done by other great writers and storytelles such as Shakespierre or even Homer... And like most of those great artists, their greatness is seldom celebrated as is merited, in their own time...
+Lord south He never claimed to be Shakespeare himself lol
Yes, Lord south. I misspelled the name; apologies, but you get my meaning.
it's actually already mentioned among the great literary works of the past century in several lists.
If you can't remember how the name of someone as well known as Shakespeare is spelled, then can we really trust that you have the literary knowledge to claim this as good as Shakespeare and Homer's work?
I mean you can like it for sure & lavish it with praise, but I don't like that perspective of everything being a masterpiece or genius or comparable with __ and ___. I see the same type of comments a lot in conversations about music too.
I just think it'd be better to hold off comparing people until you've actually done the research and spent a lifetime diving into the history of the subject that we're talking about so you can truly say what's as good as what.
But if you were just comparing it to the Angry Dad comic book then never mind..in that case I'd agree this is up there with Homer & Bart's work.
For me its the music that really takes this to the next level.
Param Bhattacharyya Dont you know who made it or where it comes from ...or whatever ?
I was playing this tune for half hour having shivers before realising I'm playing it
@@TheRaptor1500 m.ua-cam.com/video/J0RKpmjjpLQ/v-deo.html
@@TheRaptor1500 or this ua-cam.com/video/pS0r9S6HrEw/v-deo.html
Param Bhattacharyya same here
This chapter hits home every single time! A masterpiece
Especially after that latest episode
Yes
Yes
It is 2018 and my mind keeps returning to Chapter 4 of Watchman.
It is 2022 I am revisiting chapter 4 of watchmen.
This isn't just comic book genius. It's literary genius. What a writer Alan Moore is.
It's October 2013. People keep commenting on the use of a male reader for all of the dialogue.
Arturo Millán , it is 2018, people still use
"it is the current year"
It is April 2019. A comment made over 5 years ago finally reaches my eyes
It's July 1st and the 4th of July is around the corner...I can still hear the gunshot from that bar in Vietnam.
It's October 2019. Halloween around the corner again
@@FaunoDufaux it's 2019 and you just commented an hour ago
This is something the movie didn't get into, Dr. Manhattan's perception of time. He's in all of time all the time. For him all of time is just the present, not the past or the future, just the present. That's awsome
Alan Moore is a genius
This is no mere comic book. It is illustrated philosophy.
the two arent mutually exclusive lol. but yeah youre right its not a comic book since this is a motion comic so its devoid of half of what makes Watchmen so great by experiencing the boundary pushing pinnacle of the comic book medium in comic book form.
The main downside to all of the Motion Comics, is that it leaves the page or two of excerpts that each chapter ends with. All of that sets the tone as the chapter ends and some how prepares you for the following chapter.
I don't know why they did that I was very freaking annoyed
nah. the main downside to motion comics is it's a completely different way of experiencing the story from how the original creators intended.
I don't have a problem with people watching motion comics, but if you think motion comics are just like normal comics aside from _that_ one downside you mentioned then I'd have to disagree with you a lot.
For a casual reader/viewer who only wants the story, motion comics can be fine. But if you want the reading experience, the intended pacing, the visual look & arrangement of a comic book and so many more aspects that are *especially* relevant for Watchmen as the quintessential representation of the comic book medium's boundaries, then you're selling yourself short by just settling for a motion comic and thinking chapter ends are the only negative aspect.
sorry if my comment sounded hostile though, I mean my comment respectfully, even if it is 5 years late & worded in an overly-matter-of-fact way :)
Kaizer Complete and utter bullshit. I'm amazed how can people write so much nothing so convincingly.
@@KaizerBeatz-vf9wf The score is great for these motion comics and gives me a greater sense of immersion. Whatever suits you but having fitting music suits me better.
Two hours into my past I collect a phonecall from my friend, telling me that another friend has committed suicide. I'm watching this now trying mitigate the hollow space inside of myself, not knowing what emotions I feel, or how to deal with the unknown inside of myself. This helps somewhat. He is still there two days into the past.
I hope you're doing okay, friend.
Hope everything's alright now
Who’s still watching this in 2019? This is my favorite chapter by the way.
It's October 2019. I am seeing this for the first time in my life and simply blown away.
SimChucky welcome to the watchmen fan club
@@SimChucky me tooooo. Wtf. Idk what took me so long to 'get into the comic'. Never crossed my mind to even read it. Loved the movie
Wishing he could only live in the moment. Unable to escape from the curse of knowledge and emotion. Powerless against the reality of time. If god was human this would be his story. Literally comic book Jesus.
I want to marry this section of the story.
This chapter puts Moore into the same literary genius as Faulkner and Joyce. The structure of this is brilliant. Though I don’t think this video truly illustrates that structure as if you were reading the comic. In fact, in my opinion, it misses a representation of time that only comics can do. By using a panel structure we can see time in the same way as dr.manhattan. We naturally read them linearly but we also can see every panel presented on the page at once, just not in detail unless we study them individually. They all exist simultaneously in the same space at the same time on the same page. We can see johns memories of 1985 and of 1959 at the exact same time when they are shown on the same page. This perfectly mirrors the way The character sees time. He exists throughout the past present and future simultaneously though he has to focus on individual times in order to properly interact. Absolute genius. That kind of thing is why so many consider watchmen to be “unfilmable” it uses every aspect of the comic format in order to tell the story. Artwork, panel layout, lettering, page flipping, juxtaposition, etc. it makes the most of each aspect beautifully.
In 2019 I was at home watching youtube, because I had no money.
This is some incredible stuff. Simply an amazing graphic novel 👌 👏.
I wanted to point out at 7:16 I would do this with my cousin to express that I like her. First woman I really cared for.
"His eyes are sad and knowing"
Truly every character is so masterful. Ozymandius and dr. Manhatten might just be the most tragic though
Same
At 8.43, the writing, music, acting and directing mesh together with perfect precision
Personally a fave chapter, just rivalled by the rorsach origin chapter. Something genuinely haunting about how Dr Manhattans Omnipotence makes him observe events from several times and places at once looking back at his origin.
Gives a seriously Dickensian Depth to the prose in this Avant Garde Superman's story.
The chapter is stating that the future is already predetermined and cannot possibly change. This means that all people, including doctor manhatan doesnt have free will and just follow the path of events in time. I have one question, when he says that he knows the future and that soon they will have sex what is stopping her to just dont do it? I mean is it possibly for someone to know the future if he is able to act freely? What is stopping her from acting differently than what is determined?
Her emotional reactions, bewilderment, fear, the need for comfort. It's all too much for Janey at that moment to process, too confusing. Jon is still the one constant in her life in 1963 and the only person she can turn to in order for things to make sense again, and she still loves him. That was what made their lovemaking after the argument inevitable, predetermined. Especially as it was yet another step on the way to their breakup three years later, part of the pattern of events.
God Analitical Philosophy as been trying to speculate on these argouments since the dawn of time. The basic idea is that you aren’t free because you can’t alter the past and the laws of Physics, so you have the illusion of begin free, but aren’t actually.
It can also be either his perception of time or his apathetic response to that perception. Maybe he only sees his future because he doesn't attempt to change the future and only really acts out his memory of the future simply happy to passively experience his memorys of the future he can see.
@@LordZontar should I make love with my cousin? I want to help with her bipolar issues, and doing it will comfort her and relax her in bed if I spend the night with her. I’m just trying to help, and she understands that I like spending time her, even though she has a boyfriend.
@@JakeTheComicBookDude What are you gibbering about?
it's July 4th 2021 I discover an 8 year old video for the first time
I like to think the Fatman crushing the watch is the bomb leading to the news paper. The paper leading to the watch being tossed, and on and on until dr Manhattan
What
This chapter was executed brilliantly. The music, the graphics, the narration of this incredible writing, all incredible. Does anybody know the name of the score?
26:11 Everytime I watch the news
“If I’m to have a symbol, it should be one I respect.” 12:34
My tat.
20:30 "an almost religious awe"
Doctor is living in hell! He can't die, he knows every horrible thing that will happen and can't do anything about it, his perception of time is so skewed that his mind is detached from reality. Its like knowing everything that will happen and everything that you will do and just becoming a puppet in your own eyes.
He's a puppet who can see the strings
Who's here while watching Watchmen the TV series!?!?
Yup!! Did you see how right Episode 8 got his conception of time?!?!
Pusher Love Man is the show any good?
@@Buntod I think it's really good for being inventive and taking a lot of the alternate world from the comics and running with it. It also has a lot of moments that seem confusing but pay off later so it's rewarding if you get invested. I can see why a lot of people don't like it though. Like the original, it's pretty overtly political, but the original is old enough that it's easier to get past that aspect. The fact that it takes its creative freedom and runs with it is always going to turn a lot of people off too. It's not for everyone but if you go in with an open mind and realize that the original was weird social commentary then it's not hard to see why fans would make the HBO series what it is.
They should have kept the scene where his father tosses his watch parts. That seemed like a detrimental omission from the film.
The film is nothing compared to the comic.
"The photograph is in my hand"
Not gonna lie. This may be my favorite chapter.
God damn it... this writing is just...perfect....
Alan Moore, man. Say what you want about the guy but Jesus Christ...
This isn’t the finest comic book ever written (it absolutely IS... but let me finish) it’s one of the finest pieces of writing ever put to paper.
...its so fucking good...
Masterpiece. Thanks for making this!