What Makes Abstract Art Good & Is It Easy? - Abstract Art Explained (Part 4)

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
  • Further reading - Why Your Five-Year Old Could Not Have Done That: amzn.to/3UpkFNN
    Complete article on abstract art: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    Thank you for your support on CAI Patreon: / contemporaryartissue
    In this video series, we will be presenting the most extensive and comprehensive online resource on abstract art. Step by step, we will be answering the most frequently asked questions and offer a clear and concise overview of the history of abstract art. Today, we will be taking on two often problematic questions that are strongly intertwined. What makes an abstract artwork or painting good? And, is abstract art easy to produce? Well, let’s find out.
    🌟 Overview: Career Advice for Artists
    → www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    🍿 Watch Next (Key Videos for Artists)
    → Self-Taught Success: • 6 Steps To Success as ...
    → How To Make Money as an Artist: • 20 Ways: How To Make M...
    → Develop Your Art Style: • How To Develop A Consi...
    → The Art World Explained: • Explained: What is the...
    📖 Recommended Books:
    → Art World & Career Advice: amzn.to/46anb09
    → How To Become A Successful Artist: amzn.to/3YwtjvS
    → Art History: amzn.to/3I0ri5I
    → Overview of books: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    ✏️ Recommended Tools & Ressources:
    → Squarespace for artist websites: squarespace.syuh.net/9W4rDY
    → Artenda for art opportunities: artenda.net
    → Artfacts for career rankings: artfacts.net/register?ref=596...
    ❤️ Support us on Patreon:
    → / contemporaryartissue
    ℹ️ About CAI:
    CAI is the abbreviation of 'Contemporary Art Issue,' a hybrid platform for contemporary art including:
    → Online Magazine: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    → Advice for Artists: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    → CAI Gallery: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    → Webshop: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    👨 About the host Julien Delagrange:
    Julien Delagrange is an art historian, contemporary artist, and the founder and director of CAI. Delagrange studied Science of Arts at Ghent University, Belgium, and worked for the Centre for Fine Arts (BOZAR) in Brussels, the Jan Vercruysse Foundation, the Ghent University Library, and has contributed to the international contemporary art scene as an art critic, lecturer, curator, gallery director, consultant, advisor, and as an artist. As an artist, he is represented by Galerie Sabine Bayasli in Paris, France, and Gallery Space60 in Antwerp, Belgium.
    🎯 The mission of the CAI UA-cam channel:
    → To empower artists by providing adequate and industry-approved advice for artists for long-term success in the highest realms of the art world, sharing inside information and proven strategies based on real-life experiences in the art world.
    → To contribute to the online canonization of recent art history, having its finger at the pulse of contemporary art.
    🌐 www.contemporaryartissue.com
    📧 info@contemporaryartissue.com
    Every effort has been made to trace copyright holders. However, if you feel you have inadvertently been overlooked, please take up contact with Contemporary Art Issue.
    Table of contents:
    00:00 - 1. Introduction
    00:23 - 2. Abstract art put to the test: How hard can it be?
    00:47 - 3. How to value the quality of an abstract artwork?
    04:36 - 4. The major challenge for abstract artists
    06:33 - 5. Why abstract art can be more difficult compared to figurative art
    07:09 - 6. Hobby abstract painting
    07:46 - 7. Examples of good abstract art
    09:34 - 8. Conclusion
    10:17 - 9. Further reading
    10:39 - 10. Outro
    Contemporary Art Issue
    Platform, Publisher & Gallery on Contemporary
    Website: www.contemporaryartissue.com
    Gallery: www.caigallery.com
    Publications: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    Services for artists: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
    Every effort has been made to trace copyright holder. However, if you feel you have inadvertently been overlooked, please take up contact with Contemporary Art Issue.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 245

  • @VisualMeditation1982
    @VisualMeditation1982 Рік тому +18

    I love the expressions of dog he is listening carefully 😊

  • @karlabritfeld7104
    @karlabritfeld7104 Рік тому +29

    No. Abstract art is not easy. But it's so rewarding when you finish a piece and you love it.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely! Hard work is rewarded 💪

    • @demiankoons3802
      @demiankoons3802 6 місяців тому

      Abstract art is one of the biggest lies of humans in modern times.

  • @robertarisz8464
    @robertarisz8464 Рік тому +14

    I have had my trip to the museum spoiled many times by hearing someone say "I could paint that too".
    I always think "but you didn't".
    The difference between Pollack and some drunken guy splashing paint in his garage is huge.

    • @grafplaten
      @grafplaten Рік тому +4

      Maybe not so huge....Pollock himself suffered from alcoholism.

    • @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
      @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace Рік тому

      Lol!

    • @hilarierath265
      @hilarierath265 Рік тому +4

      Sometimes the drunk in the garage speaks to us!

    • @harikatragadda
      @harikatragadda Рік тому

      When you hear a drunken guy who splashes paint in his garage that he can do it too, its a bad trip to the museum.

    • @desertstar223
      @desertstar223 3 місяці тому +1

      Pollock WAS a drunk who conned the art world . Or I should rather say the art world allowed themselves to be conned by a drunk.

  • @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
    @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace Рік тому +51

    I think making abstract art is harder because you have nothing to hang on to. Your dog is a work of art.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +4

      I agree 100%! Thank you for tuning in

    • @karlabritfeld7104
      @karlabritfeld7104 Рік тому +1

      It's hard.

    • @red2744
      @red2744 3 місяці тому +1

      bruh. harder? really
      i did years of uni and more years of non stop painting to become decent at classical realism. abstract formless painting is nothing

    • @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
      @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace Місяць тому +1

      ​@@red2744I suppose it depends on how you are.

  • @robertspies4695
    @robertspies4695 Рік тому +11

    These are all good points, but the value of a painting is in how it resonates emotionally which does not seem to be addressed directly. Doing something new contributes to the emotional response to be fair.

  • @petemc5070
    @petemc5070 Рік тому +10

    Very clear analysis. Sometimes abstract work has to be seen in a gallery as it is weak in reproduction compared to figurative and surface finish is so important. I was stunned by Josef Albers' 'Homage to the Square: R-NW IV' painting in the Scottish National Gallery Of Modern Art (Modern One) last summer. The colour was intense in a way I'd never imagined a painting could be.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely, great example. Sometimes, if you see an abstract picture on a computer screen or on your phone, it looks easy to replicate. However, the quality of the selected materials and the way they are used can have a very subtle but tremendous difference. That's why most hobby abstract artists' their work look so "stock", a pre-prepared canvas and acrylic paint straight from the tube with no prior research or process in between picking it up from the art supply store and using it. With high-end abstract art, there is an entirely different sensation and presence of the artwork.

  • @cherylerome-beatty4677
    @cherylerome-beatty4677 11 місяців тому +4

    I love this channel! This episode really helped me to evaluate and understand abstract art as well as my own.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  11 місяців тому

      Hi Cheryle, that's great to hear. Wishing you all the best!

  • @jeanettekamphuisofartistic1414
    @jeanettekamphuisofartistic1414 Рік тому +16

    This was very encouraging as I have found my own style and it takes a long time to finish as it need many layers maybe, or it might need to hang on wall half finished till one sees what’s lacking. When u paint out of ur soul…. It takes time/patience

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому

      Absolutely, beautifully put into words. Thank you for tuning in!

    • @karlabritfeld7104
      @karlabritfeld7104 Рік тому

      Absolutely! Don't be in a rush. Most artists don't go far enough and stop too soon.

  • @wikidub
    @wikidub Рік тому +10

    Excellent video. Very well expressed. Most abstract art is formulaic and as you say "home decoration" - dull and worthy. Very few artists build up a practice of unique styles which do not ape the pioneers, or if they do pay homage at least bring it into a contemporary form. Surface, technique and media are important because they distinguish the work of an exceptional abstract painter from a hobby artist or that done by a computer programme. Reputable dealers and savvy buyers know what is true innovative abstract art and what is wall decoration for offices, care homes and living rooms.
    The dog...

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +3

      Very well put to words, I couldn't agree more! Greetings from Belgium-from myself and, of course, Perrier the dog!

  • @deepashtray5605
    @deepashtray5605 Рік тому +6

    Marketing talent is also a major factor.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому

      But in most cases, this is not the artist's job but their gallery's. Thank you for tuning in!

  • @jamesg2382
    @jamesg2382 8 місяців тому +3

    Well developed argument, I really appreciate the way you have approached this question. Thank you

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  8 місяців тому

      The pleasure is all mine, thank you for watching and wishing you a great day!

  • @DanielLopes-jt8yl
    @DanielLopes-jt8yl Рік тому +2

    As always your commentary is spot on. You don’t need me telling you this but I got to. Your good dam good it helps being reminded. Again thank you!

  • @tendr247
    @tendr247 Рік тому +4

    I cannot draw professionally.....or totally realistic yet my abstract art I keep painting over eventually becomes something I love.

  • @shawnt7289
    @shawnt7289 Рік тому

    Very well explained and I think passion is woven in and throughout the canvas of the mind ,exposed outwardly and only to be picked back up inwardly.

  • @shawnt7289
    @shawnt7289 Рік тому +1

    Very well explained, I think passion is woven in and out of the canvas of the mind , only to be outwardly exposed to be inwardly taken back in .

  • @jpo.a.7623
    @jpo.a.7623 Рік тому +1

    Subscribed ✌ Very nice. Needed some insight on this since I've been getting into abstract painting/art. Will keep following for sure.
    Loved the dog btw ✌😎🎨

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for subscribing, I appreciate it 🙏 Great to hear you enjoyed the video and the best assistant director/dog in the world, Perrier. Have a great day!

  • @ARTOMAS
    @ARTOMAS Рік тому +3

    Great job !!! i agree !!! it's take so much time & really strong motivation...To deliver our art ''messages'' to the world.

  • @liliannaa3627
    @liliannaa3627 Місяць тому

    Perrier is absolutely lovely!😍 And your content is amazing!👏👏👏

  • @desertportal353
    @desertportal353 Рік тому +1

    Another thoughtful and helpful vid. And the book is really good as well - read it several times since getting it several years ago. Thanks for your channel- subscribed.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for tuning in and for the kind comment-yes it's a great read indeed! All my best, JD

  • @shahidhassanboni3555
    @shahidhassanboni3555 Рік тому +2

    you are the best discovery i have made on youtube. Thanks for sharing such upto daite and detailed videos. . Best wishing and thanks from Pakistan.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому

      That's great to hear, thank you so much for your most kind words. Greetings from Belgium!

  • @Marceau.Verdiere.Atelier
    @Marceau.Verdiere.Atelier 8 місяців тому +3

    “Easy” is such a complicated and laden word in art…kuddos to have taken on the subject, and well done as usual. I always tackle this with my students with the works of Cy Twombly: When Cy Twombly was making his doodles and mark paintings, which by any arguable way would be “easy” to make, few people understood that Cy Twombly tried his whole life to reconnect with what it means to paint like a little child: free from all convention, pressures, doubt, and righteousness about art. He of course could never succeed, as you are inevitably polluted by adulthood. But the point was that the ultimate artistic expression was that of an unburdened mind, a little child’s mind, and his scribbles and others were aiming to find and reconnect with this elusive and ephemeral moment in life. Abstract art, when it is created to translate ideas and concepts that cannot be figurative, should hopefully not preoccupy itself with whether it is/looks easy, and one can wish that the viewer is willing to make an effort as well and engage with the ideas. The balance for us artists that are abstract and/ or conceptual is to figure out how much we have to guide and help the viewers get past their first impression. And as you so pertinently point out , a helpful and simply written artist statement goes a long way to build the right kind of bridges, and that is definitely NOT easy 😅… thanks again for a great video

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  8 місяців тому

      Great comment; thank you for sharing this. You're absolutely right, and I also believe Twombly is a great example. Almost instantly, when seeing a work by Twombly, you feel there is more to it. Not easy indeed! Thank you for tuning in and wishing you all the best!

  • @murilocenovicz4946
    @murilocenovicz4946 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! Thanks for all the knowledge!

  • @michaelhemmingartist
    @michaelhemmingartist Рік тому +3

    Thank you. Very enjoyable and well summed up. Even your dog seemed to enjoy it. I expect he'll be giving abstracts a go in the next video 😂

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +3

      Thank you for tuning in and for the kind words. Haha yes she loves creating an abstract paw painting in our living room after a rainy walk 😅

  • @o.aldenproductions.9858
    @o.aldenproductions.9858 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing this is so enlightening 👌💕

  • @treezydcm
    @treezydcm Рік тому +2

    Amazing video. So well explained. Your dog is so chill out.

  • @carmennavar6961
    @carmennavar6961 Рік тому +1

    Much food for thought excellent critique on Abstract ART

  • @ninavidmar8150
    @ninavidmar8150 8 місяців тому +1

    i love how the dog just waits for his attention the whole video :)

  • @dianehansma1725
    @dianehansma1725 8 місяців тому +1

    Your dog is adorable…his/her facial expressions are great…..he/she just can’t figure out who you are talking to though😊! Thanks for your expertise advice!

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  8 місяців тому

      She's the best! When I am rambling on for these videos in another language, she must be very confused. But in Dutch, I often believe she understands every single word 😅 The pleasure is all mine, thank you for tuning in and greetings from us both!

  • @scenteddiamond7659
    @scenteddiamond7659 Рік тому +3

    your assistant director is very professional 👍🏼

  • @riteasrain
    @riteasrain 4 місяці тому

    You both did a great job of that 🤩😊

  • @jayumble8390
    @jayumble8390 10 місяців тому +1

    This is fantastic...thanks so much CAI !!

  • @seviregis7441
    @seviregis7441 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful, excellent insights. That said, the dog is adorable, wants a cuddle, and is trying to figure out who you’re talking to....

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      Hi Sevi, thank you so much for tuning in and for the most kind words. Yes, she is the best! She gets numerous pets and some treats when filming because she's such a good girl. She really knows the drill by now. As soon as I get out the tripod and camera she gets into position on the couch for her fans 😂 Thank you and stay in touch!

  • @maxpoulin5744
    @maxpoulin5744 11 місяців тому +1

    Super cool content man, this is awesome thank you and I love your dog !!!

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  11 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! She's the best isn't she :-) Greetings from us both!

  • @missinglink9973
    @missinglink9973 Рік тому +3

    excellent as always

  • @internationalicon
    @internationalicon Рік тому +2

    Art students learn to create a product mainly for the use of a rather narrow group of art collectors , who have the means and space to collect and show the artworks.
    Talk at some point about the exclusivity of art production, as opposed to consumption by, or any broader use by, the population as a whole

  • @John-rk2bl
    @John-rk2bl 7 місяців тому +1

    Very well explained, its obvious you know the subject

  • @AsiyaBajwa
    @AsiyaBajwa 5 місяців тому

    Nicely explained!

  • @grozdavranic6972
    @grozdavranic6972 Рік тому +1

    Great Information..Thank you for sharing...

  • @brvndxxxn
    @brvndxxxn Рік тому +1

    Thanks for another great video

  • @notsharingwithyoutube
    @notsharingwithyoutube Рік тому +1

    That was a great video. Thanks.

  • @avaliveradio
    @avaliveradio Рік тому +1

    Love this.

  • @vicentejouclas2518
    @vicentejouclas2518 11 місяців тому +1

    The world is stimulating through the eyes of Art.

  • @lauramason5667
    @lauramason5667 Рік тому

    Thank you for this well thought out lecture. I stayed on history in college and I often say what their sarcastic voice that #ArtIsPlayedOutCompletelyI’mNotSureIfThisIsTrueOrMaybeI’mNotLookingAtTheRightArtists but you’ve perhaps proved me wrong.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      Art can never be played out! We have been creating art since the dawn of humanity, and we will continue to do so for as long as we are around. Thank you for tuning in Laura!

  • @RivenaKat
    @RivenaKat 4 місяці тому +1

    I would love to hear you expand upon why subcategories such as abstract pour art are immediately labeled with a lack of quality when they can still get high quality inputs. That seems directly like action expressionism where you can either end get a Pollock or a child’s mess-no difference from what I see.

  • @YuriiAbstractART
    @YuriiAbstractART Рік тому +1

    Beautiful work, well done author, who agrees press ❤️

  • @kennydreadfuls861
    @kennydreadfuls861 Рік тому +2

    I think he is speaking more to how abstract art becomes valuable when the method and materials are groundbreaking in some aspect that artist then enters the annals of reference and study by further artists.

  • @bobstar2683
    @bobstar2683 Рік тому +8

    A rather good video addressing the main points of criticism levelled at poor abstract artists on social media by those that seem to think its all a "scam".

  • @marth9660
    @marth9660 Рік тому +3

    Another great video. It’s the “process” of abstraction that I find most challenging. Finding originality in mark-making, nuancing the application of paint, creating balance and impact with form and line, letting the paint speak with different viscosity etc etc. The elitism of the art world is an added pressure too because so many authentic and important voices are lost or excluded but I also don’t believe abstraction in painting can be successful unless the artist can actually skilfully draw and paint to begin with. This series of videos is great (and I love the dog as well as the presenter). ❤

    • @karlabritfeld7104
      @karlabritfeld7104 Рік тому +3

      Yes you should be able to draw in the first place but don't let that stop you from boldly going forward and trying new ideas.

    • @bm4114
      @bm4114 4 місяці тому

      “Mark making” lol. Such an art buzz phrase.

  • @CarolineVisArtGallery
    @CarolineVisArtGallery Рік тому +1

    I like your vidéos thx for create them

  • @newworldlove7031
    @newworldlove7031 11 місяців тому

    I was told at my Art & Design College that anything you do with intention to be Art is Art!!

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  11 місяців тому +2

      Yes, that is a very good point. In our definition of what makes an artwork contemporary, the intention is one of the four conditions and a pretext for art.

    • @cherylerome-beatty4677
      @cherylerome-beatty4677 11 місяців тому +1

      In this definition, i understand, that is saying that the "process" is the point of art (which is probably the main point: to create freely, joyfully and without fear) whereas this video discusses the "result", distinguishing the art from art making, and hobby art. One of my biggest evaluations of my own work is "does this look like something that anyone could have painted (i.e. on Instagram)?"

  • @pauleliot6429
    @pauleliot6429 9 днів тому

    very good ideas.

  • @thesawdustcollector1489
    @thesawdustcollector1489 Рік тому +2

    At 9:34 I thought he said "In a nutshell, we have established, anyone can buy cannibis and paint from the art supply store and paint an abstract painting."

  • @curranlouise
    @curranlouise Рік тому +2

    very good thank you

  • @Mary-mx4fx
    @Mary-mx4fx 8 місяців тому

    I got healed of schizophrenia!!! I just prayed!!!

  • @luluesparza7360
    @luluesparza7360 10 місяців тому +2

    I think a good non-representative abstract can be difficult, technically, and I think good abstract art comes from those that have creativity and vision.

  • @coolblack_kush
    @coolblack_kush Рік тому +1

    That dog is so beaut!

  • @deelynn8611
    @deelynn8611 11 місяців тому +1

    Your dog is just beautiful.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  10 місяців тому

      She is the best! Thank you for tuning in and greetings from us both

  • @JSMatteson
    @JSMatteson Рік тому +3

    So, successful (abstract) artists are cultural antagonists that creatively confront clichés vs. designers?

  • @marianabandhold6171
    @marianabandhold6171 7 місяців тому +1

    The dog is paying more attention than me

  • @PaulPineda29
    @PaulPineda29 Рік тому +1

    The dog seems relaxed

  • @rosidmuhtadi6339
    @rosidmuhtadi6339 11 місяців тому +1

    Abstract art is "purgatory". Im a naturalist but sometimes i make abstract too. Its like take a bath after a long sweaty day..

  • @user-mh7ld8ki4y
    @user-mh7ld8ki4y 7 місяців тому

    Now you understand how hard we try hours and hours of working and u just did it bro so proud and ur pup is highly impressed by your speech awww but no problem you do as you feel like it is the point when all goes in negation it is when abstract artists win atkeast u tried bro and the feeling you made something makes us proud and sure often criticism is always there infact artists are sensitive bro Jackson pollock is the iconoc artist / thank you also we let others feel its easy but bro it's not one plus one is 2 but we don't say two / I would love to send u a painting made by me just imagine give my love to your labardor yes at some time they look overfed but ur puppy looks in perfect shape may no evil eye cone near you and ur pup stay known and I am following u 🎉 who I see ur speech now u kniw😊 because bro its the vibe sure 🎉take care exactly 😊 🎉😊 keep up the postings I will say hi to my lab from ur side blessed and yes u ate wise abstract art us no joke it seriously an art take carebye

  • @Apollo_Blaze
    @Apollo_Blaze 22 дні тому

    Very nice video. You may be right.

  • @lenscap8925
    @lenscap8925 Рік тому

    And depending who is coming over ...turn the canvas 90 degrees... daily turn it 90 degrees...clockwise of course😉
    On a serious note, what is the dividing line between designer wall art and ground breaking masterpiece?

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      First and foremost, the intention. Then, the originality versus the designated job and design they get from the house owners. Further, the personal technique when it comes to the execution, instead of a commonly known craft.

  • @sanatsutunu
    @sanatsutunu Рік тому +1

    Great 👍

  • @iridescentsquids
    @iridescentsquids Рік тому +3

    I think a lot of these criteria are missing the point. Like skill/mastery of materials. That’s not it. It’s intent or deliberateness in a very expansive sense (to include less conscious inspiration). You wouldn’t call it precise or predictable, but decisions dictated by a strong will or intent creates meaning that feels precise even out of otherwise messy looking results or unskilled use of materials. This is extremely common among early abstract + expressionists when the will was more the point. Less so for abstraction born of conceptual starting place. But sometimes the juxtaposition of deliberate and haphazard is very much the point.

    • @Peter-JohnTaylor
      @Peter-JohnTaylor 11 місяців тому

      Well said and fundamental to any useful critique of any art style: What is the "intent or deliberateness" of the work? How is it distinguished from decor or experimentation for the sake of it? 'Abstract' is far too broad a term particularly when any form of art is a form of self-expression (emphasis on 'self') meaning the artist is conveying some concept, some intellectual realism of thought or opinion or perception or emotion, the painting being the expressed representation thereof. This is why many people view as false dichotomy the alleged distinction between figurative (or representational) and non-figurative (or non-representational) art. If non-representational painting is actually possible, then it's also non-rational art, which is not art. No?

    • @iridescentsquids
      @iridescentsquids 11 місяців тому

      @@Peter-JohnTaylor not sure. I think there’s “abstract” but still form. And form can have a hefty range of rational/non-rational without representation. I’m wary of generalizations but seems to me that “deliberate” can include the form found but not premeditated through experimental process. I’m hard pressed to think of experimentation in art that isn’t still judged by whatever form still results. Thinking for instance of the wildest gobs and streaks in a de Kooning painting that I wouldn’t say were rationally or deliberately applied just so, but through whatever editing and absorbed control still convey and communicate with clarity and cohesion. It’s “experimental” and not rational but it still has a very strong form. Part of what’s meaningful is precisely that mysterious juxtaposition somehow eked out in a moment that couldn’t be replicated.

    • @Peter-JohnTaylor
      @Peter-JohnTaylor 11 місяців тому

      @@iridescentsquids Not sure either, no stable hypothesis yet, but I concur that abstract style painting may genuinely include or suggest discernible form - occasioned by the physical and mental process - and in some cases, a result dependent upon the viewer’s cognition. Either way it seems to me we’re in broad agreement as far as a painter’s capability to produce work that presents their consciously or subliminally influenced intentions on canvas or screen. But aren’t we then taking the painter’s perspective mostly?
      From the challenged audience perspective, there’s what I call the “too broad” label (or license) of ‘abstract art’ requiring folks to appreciate the effort and to discern or speculate what is the intention rather than see it depicted by way of stylised representation: Abstract art may genuinely utilise the most basic elements (line, shape, hue, value, arrangement, etc.) while yet suggesting the forms and their interactions which occupy the minds of both artist and audience.
      Otherwise where or what is the communication?

    • @iridescentsquids
      @iridescentsquids 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Peter-JohnTaylor is the question whether there can be universal form/order to abstract art that communicates? And whether representation grounds communication as common ground with audience(universal where abstract art isn’t)? I may be an exception here, but in my experience representation is just another contextual factor we (audience) use. It can sometimes act as a slow ramping of the “work” of engaging with art but it’s my opinion that it’s not inherently easier or more universal. I might say…not sure…that representational art more often accommodates the sentiment of shared objectivity (we and the artist looking at something together, while sharing their interpretation). This is not always the case but a safe generalization. But I would say that people often make too much of this. Because it’s easier than delving into what I would call a more purely phenomenological language: seeing and translating what is seen in the moment. The act of representing-turning momentary observation into a representation- involves engagement with the formal aspects of painting that fuels a huge amount of what we think of in the history of art, much of modernism and even abstraction. I would say it’s a huge part of even Mondrian and all of the abstract expressionists. If I’m right about that, representation might be considered almost a distraction in that it creates the impression of a formal logic/grappling with meaning-making, regardless of whether it does a thorough job of that. In some cases it pretends or takes the easy route to being meaningful, because we can recognize what is represented. So In a sense you could argue it gets in the way, and I think that’s the reason some abandoned it. Nobody is the final judge…but I think it’s possible to say that the act of trying to making “good” representational painting, if we can agree it’s not best described as being technically accurate, involves a formal clarity that’s not so different from abstraction. Even though the processes are very different. If that’s true then representation may sometimes obscure whether the painting is any good by simply relying on the act of recognition. Just like abstraction may obscure it by presuming to “do abstraction”. Reminds me of the way critics in Turner’s time would debate the merits of a painting based on how well it captured nature/light, and Ruskin started delving into the idea that our interaction with nature was as much in our minds, which explains Turners deliberate departures from technician “objective” representation, replacing it with experience or a phenomenological take. In this sense romanticism also, I believe, gets misunderstood by post-romantic art history as about “feelings” when it was often a reaction to cultural, philosophical and scientific shifts away from prior notions of unchanging objectivity: it was a new science, not an abandonment to “feelings”. A lot of time when I hear people say there was a shift in modern art to the inner feelings of the artist I want to object. It’s the attempted objective consideration of the fact of subjectivity, which we don’t have good words for but it’s definitely more than “feelings”. Emotionally and intellectually this was a huge challenge not just to artists but to scientists and philosophers, too.

    • @Peter-JohnTaylor
      @Peter-JohnTaylor 11 місяців тому +1

      @@iridescentsquids Your exposition is compelling, so now I look forward to a few suitably matched examples of artwork that meet your implicit criteria as a representative set. I’ll be on the hunt myself for a few such to balance my view - objectively, subjectively - and will post the links within an article on my blog.
      Thank you for this most enlightening conversation.

  • @Majesticon
    @Majesticon 3 місяці тому +1

    it also depends on degree of success you're looking for. plenty of hobbyist, beginners and folks just messing around have sold paintings on instagram for a few hundred dollars and have turned it into a business. their art is meaningless, of course, but its definitly possible to make money doing the bare minimum (i'm sure you know this, it's just an interesting phenomenon)

  • @Majesticon
    @Majesticon 3 місяці тому

    where is the list of artists? i didn't quite catch their names fully

  • @bigdrumskyreligion
    @bigdrumskyreligion 7 місяців тому +1

    Occasionally someone will say "I could do that" referring to Pollack or another artist and I always challenge them to prove it. If you can do it, then do it. Show me the work. No one has ever accepted the challenge. Usually the person will avoid talking to me afterwards, which is fine.

  • @fredrik241
    @fredrik241 3 місяці тому

    I'd be interested in hearing your take on the completely white canvas 'paintings' i've spotted in various high profile art galleries and museums. I'm not talking older art (say 60's-70s) but contemporary maybe around 5-10 years ago now. Almost the same kind of image. Just a white canvas with hardly any texture or paint applied. In some instances you have to work hard and look at the image strongly sideways to spot that anything was actually done to the raw canvas at all. I also wouldn't say that it was 'in company' of other paintings that made the white one make sense.
    I enjoy contemporary visual arts of all kinds including very abstract or challenging. But I have to say these recent 'white canvases' leave me cold. I feel like its been done already 50-70 years ago (sorry I don't know) and I can't see what value it brings doing it again today.

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 11 місяців тому +1

    Wait !
    Someone said there was a discussion about abstract art in this video.
    All I saw was a great dog !!!!

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  11 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂 Absolutely spot on when I am rewatching these videos to see if they are edited correctly or if the text is right-constantly focusing on Perrier and her cute or goofy maneuvers. Greetings from us both!

  • @carlosillustrates
    @carlosillustrates 4 місяці тому

    Abstract can go bad really quick. I started painting one some time ago and it turned into a muddy mess, I ended up scraping the paint off and started over. The end result had a dynamic look to it so we hung it in the dining room, but it sold soon after my husband post a pic of it on Facebook.

  • @Roonasaur
    @Roonasaur 4 місяці тому

    White text with a black outline can be read over any background color . . .

  • @Moodysmilez
    @Moodysmilez 3 місяці тому

    I’m a weird artist and I layer my paintings but I also make it for me and no one else.

  • @TruthIsNot4Sale
    @TruthIsNot4Sale 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for that but can we talk about that beautiful doggy ❤ 😊

  • @yemzik4748
    @yemzik4748 Рік тому +1

    0:45 upside down beer :)

  • @latetodagame1892
    @latetodagame1892 11 місяців тому

    Yes

  • @echopathy
    @echopathy 22 дні тому

    @5:15 "Making it in the art world.. " Reckon that's That's the target?

  • @janalyngraham1035
    @janalyngraham1035 Рік тому +3

    I fundamentally disagree with your statements in '6. Hobby Art'. Just because a specific medium or technique (such as pour painting or modeling paste) is already being utilized by others doesn't make it inherently bad. That's akin to saying no new painting can be good because the artist used acrylic paint, or oil paint, and SSSOOOOO many people are using those mediums. Additionally, to make the assertion that no other techniques are used when using those techniques is rather ignorant of the world of possibilities that exist within each of those areas. It isn't the method or the equipment used that make a piece of art good, but rather what the artist does with them. Just because you value complete originality, does not make you the ordained judge and jury of complete segments of art.

    • @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
      @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace Рік тому +2

      I don't think he said it was bad, just not original or destined for importance. I've always found the "art world" kind of scary because of standards that seem impossible to decipher, but then that's where the value lies, I guess.

  • @vrejtamazian524
    @vrejtamazian524 Рік тому +1

    Sehr gut erklärt. Gute Abstract Bilder zu malen ist sehr schwer, eigenartige Talent muss man haben, visioner muss sein.

  • @filippobincoletto2503
    @filippobincoletto2503 Рік тому +1

    I want to buy that painting that you just made.
    😂

  • @d.l.7399
    @d.l.7399 6 місяців тому

    When gifted, very, very easy...

  • @cadernodemoda
    @cadernodemoda 10 місяців тому +1

    I love your dog, and it seems to be very worried about you talking this much for a camera.... what is his/her name?

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  10 місяців тому

      Hi Miriam, thank you for tuning in. Her name is Perrier, and she's the best! The most loyal assistant one could imagine

  • @PoorBoyPennyShow
    @PoorBoyPennyShow 9 місяців тому +3

    IM AN ABSTRACT ARTIST AND ITS THE ADVENTURE EACH WORK TAKES ME ON ,,EASY BECAUSE I WANT IT ,,,,IVE BEEN PAINTING 40 YEARS ITS SECOND NATURE TO CREATE A PAINTING FROM NOTHING ,,NO PLANING ,,JUST MAYBE AN INSPIRED IDEA OR A FEELING I GET ,,ONCE I GET STARTED ,,THE PAINTING PAINTS ITSEF TELLING ME WHAT TO DO NEXT,,,,I LOVE IT

  • @supercharger5727
    @supercharger5727 Рік тому

    In abstract art it depends on what your using that makes it easy if you're using a mop spray can or a giant paint brush yea it would be easy if you're using a medium or small paint brush pen pencil or crayon it would be hard

    • @NellonDesign_777
      @NellonDesign_777 Рік тому +2

      Spray cans can be very difficult to master. They are actually very difficult to use well.

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +3

      Thank you for tuning in. Spray paints can indeed be challenging to use, as is the case with giant brushes. Every technique has its challenges but also its strengths.

    • @karlabritfeld7104
      @karlabritfeld7104 Рік тому +1

      Depends on the size of your substrate

  • @MD-bu3xc
    @MD-bu3xc 10 місяців тому

    Dog is very cool. He’s watching his person and thinking geez I’m back here, doesn’t he get that? Oh well…….

  • @ujanbhattacharjee6178
    @ujanbhattacharjee6178 Місяць тому

    Can anyone tell me the meaning of the painting

  • @shubhisingh66
    @shubhisingh66 3 місяці тому

    doggo 😍😍

  • @davidwilson1273
    @davidwilson1273 Місяць тому

    The Empor

  • @jihadifrog
    @jihadifrog 4 місяці тому

    i love this video because,
    Doggoooo

  • @NoelyRomano
    @NoelyRomano 4 місяці тому

    Some of these kids may never have had a life of luxury, but they did what they really wanted.

  • @LinusRauschnbrg
    @LinusRauschnbrg 11 місяців тому +1

    Marco Reicherts art is still 100% man made I would argue

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  11 місяців тому

      I agree, even the machine made needs human input. Food for thought with AI lurking around the corner

  • @MrMESSI
    @MrMESSI 9 місяців тому

    YOU CAN GIVE ANYTHING A VALUE WITH A LITTLE TOUCH OF AN ELLISON

  • @michelblazquez
    @michelblazquez Рік тому +3

    Anyone can paint abstract, the difficult thing is to find a title for the work.🤣

  • @mjoriginals
    @mjoriginals 11 місяців тому +1

    The dog is trying so hard to not make eye contact with the camera.

  • @thewalruswasjason101
    @thewalruswasjason101 Місяць тому

    I used to think it’s easy. But once you try abstract art, you quickly realize it can look “ bad”, or amateurish.

  • @ronjohnson4566
    @ronjohnson4566 Рік тому +1

    well, the dog is the star of the show, and he is saying, "what the hell, my house smells like spray paint. the master is staring and growling at something but i can't see or smell what the hell it is. And, the master has been doing this all morning, and I gotta pee!"

    • @contemporaryartissue
      @contemporaryartissue  Рік тому +1

      😂 This must be the best comment, by far, on this channel in the past year. Thank you for tuning in and making my day in just a few sentences. Cheers!

  • @peterayolov
    @peterayolov Рік тому +1

    If it sells it's good, if don't it's funny.

  • @wfbcwfbc7884
    @wfbcwfbc7884 11 місяців тому

    Art for art's sake.

  • @christopherwelch5568
    @christopherwelch5568 Рік тому +3

    If you want to become an abstract artist, you either need to come up with an idea that the art world hasn't seen yet, or become an arrogant personality the art world can't live without. Abstraction peaked in the 1950s and anything you can think of has been done already. Your art will be called pastiche. Selling art now is really selling yourself. It's not about your work, it is about you. Julian Schnabel didn't invent anything new. The art world bought his incredible arrogance, not his work. The contemporary art world buys you, not your work.

    • @Sharla1213
      @Sharla1213 3 місяці тому

      Would this rule out socially challenged introverts from success in the art world?