Can you brew good coffee with cheap machines?

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 196

  • @dittilio
    @dittilio 4 роки тому +107

    You're literally the only video I've found that has managed to succinctly and accurately explain the very basic bloody question "what makes coffee taste good or bad". It's important to me, because I don't drink coffee, but I would like to make nice coffee for my guests.

    • @cindy9155
      @cindy9155 3 роки тому +2

      I'm glad you are thinking of your guests! Added plus, if they comment on the "great coffee" you can share some "expertise" ! Enjoy 😊 (I love coffee, and my thought also was to make good coffee for others, it's such a warm way to get together, and connect)

    • @sleddy01
      @sleddy01 4 місяці тому +1

      the brain is what make good or bad coffee. the most over hyped topic i can think of

    • @Bhargav_Gadekar
      @Bhargav_Gadekar 8 днів тому

      Yep

  • @joshhead9368
    @joshhead9368 3 роки тому +134

    Bro. You should get a career as an audio book reader. I'd listen to that all day.

  • @HannahAndSunny
    @HannahAndSunny 5 років тому +69

    I appreciate the production value of this video down to the matching glasses and pop filter

  • @paperjellyfish143
    @paperjellyfish143 3 роки тому +11

    I wish you could read a book to me, what a relaxing voice. I might just watch this video before I go to bed, comforting. Thankyou.

  • @mikeyoung9810
    @mikeyoung9810 4 роки тому +16

    This is a very good video done in a calm informative manner that is easy to watch. I've followed the advice of this and other channels about improving your coffee with a cheap machine. Lessons learned have improved my Mr Coffee/Folgers by leaps and bounds so those who don't want it to be their main hobby and who haven't developed those taste desires to the level of an expert the simple things taught: temperature, amounts used, how the water drains through the filter and not letting the coffee cook for hours can really help coffee enjoyment. Coffee is no longer bitter so I don't have to gag down really bad coffee just for a caffiene boost so a bit of research has helped me avoid spending hundreds of dollars and spending hundreds of hours learning to be a coffee expert. And all it takes is a 5 minute video. Thanks Peter Tardigrade.

  • @Lilmiket1000
    @Lilmiket1000 3 роки тому +9

    Omg, I think you've done it! I've been buying a ton of coffee makers over the years as well trying to get the flavor to come out right. I always noticed that at my mom's house the coffee comes out better tasting and they never clean their machine, but they have a bigger machine than I do. I've used bottled water and filtered water and cleaned my 5 cup coffee maker but with only minor success of making it come out tasting better. I've even had a water test done on my house and resorted to cleaning out my coffee maker with each use lol. I tried going to making the coffee from scratch with grinding beans and heating up water etc. Also with minor success and decided it was not worth the extra work lol. After watching this, come to find out the coffee maker was not only not completely covering all the coffee grinds but It's also not reaching high enough temps. so now I'm back to heating water manually and it's tasting great now. Thanks so much. I get to get rid of the coffee maker graveyard. I figured it was the plastic I was tasting lol. Was about to spend hundreds on something with a metal tank.

  • @Ry77x
    @Ry77x 2 роки тому +9

    I once accidentally left my coffee maker lid open causing the water to re-circulate. After the coffee brewed, it was the best coffee that machine made. I’ve been doing it ever since. I’ll def try the stir method. Thanks! ☕️

    • @y00t00b3r
      @y00t00b3r 7 місяців тому +1

      I don't understand how that could possibly work... ?

    • @Ry77x
      @Ry77x 7 місяців тому

      @@y00t00b3r I guess the water was extra hot.

    • @y00t00b3r
      @y00t00b3r 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Ry77x no, I mean how can leaving the lid open cause the water to recirculate?

  • @JD987abc
    @JD987abc 5 днів тому

    Excellent presentation. I’ve found the tried and true method of coffee I drink every morning. Six cups filtered water and scant 5 jiggers of Columbia Arabica (Milita works fine) pre ground coffee. Im never disappointed.

  • @annabookout8179
    @annabookout8179 5 років тому +14

    Came here from Reddit! I really loved this video. I have a full set up at home, but I don't really like putting people out when I travel. Especially if there isn't a nice coffee shop near by. These are very welcome tips!

    • @A12Diary
      @A12Diary 4 роки тому

      What’s your suggestion for a travel coffee maker?

  • @xjrisjfnfnr
    @xjrisjfnfnr 3 роки тому +24

    I came here because my brewed coffee at home has always tasted like it came from a sewer. It was always bitter, sour, too strong and just gross -no matter what I did. I had given up hope of a good at home brew.
    Then I realized through watching this-1. I’m always broke so my machine isn’t very good (I didn’t think it mattered) and 2. Of course a $15 piece of plastic won’t brew like a machine made of metal. It does the pathetic squirt even though it does have a rain shower style head, it comes out in spurts.
    SO! Determined to stop going broke by giving baristas all my money, I looked up on UA-cam thinking it was a ratio of coffee to water problem! Saw several videos that were trying to make me do *MATH* 🧮 and you might as well tell me to put roller-skates on a chicken. Every where I looked it was some ratio of grams/ounces/spoons-- I’m not measuring or adding or multiplying when I haven’t EVEN HAD MY DANG COFFEE!
    Then my aching head (from lack of caffeine) stumbled on this BLESSING of a video. It’s not my machine, it’s MY DUMB ASS!!! 🦍 And how the hell did he know how much I weighed?!! Besides that! I was about to take out a loan against a future child to buy a Nespresso machine (because EASY AND NO MATH). I still might, BUT!, this has saved me in the meantime! I already always clean my pot and the basket in the dishwasher because screw hand cleaning. I always use bottled water because for being broke I’m boujie that way. BUT OF COURSE there are FUNDAMENTAL things wrong with a $15 machine!!!
    I did the 3rd step and PRE BREWED MY WATER!!!! And was like uhhh this seems crazy when I’m in desperate need of caffeine. BUT I’m in desperate need to enjoy the mechanism by which I get that sweet kick in my ass too! So I patiently waited less than 5 min which is hard for me. THEN I POURED THAT HOT BOTTLED WATER RIGHT BACK IN!!! Next?!!! I took a chance on my death trap of a coffeemaker NOT boiling me alive, and I opened up that very angry lid despite how much spitting and hissing 🐍 it was giving me! Guess what?? It only burned a little. Like bacon 🥓 grease. And I suffer for my bacon, why not for the sake of good coffee?
    So I STIRRED THE 💩 OUT OF IT! And guess what, he’s right!!! It was all stuck together with only some grounds getting wet and most in a big dry clump underneath it!!! So I risked the health of the skin of my hand and reached in with a spoon and stirred it, and I could tell it needed a LOT of stirring!!!
    I still didn’t think this pot of coffee held hope, UNTIL, I heard the sweet sizzle of the whole thing stopping its death rattle of a hissing fit. I didn’t do the last step with metal cuz I’m a girl and I don’t have random pieces of metal lying around.
    I poured a little into my cup... and WHAT THE WHAT?!!! It didn’t suck!!! And then I added half n half (as is my way of things) and it was smooth perfection, not bitter or sour!!! I added just a DASH of my fav sugar free vanilla and BOOM!!! I have the best cuppa ☕️ I’ve EVER MADE EVER AT HOME!!!
    Want to know something more crazy??? I am a former barista!!! But they have machines. And fancy things. I have $15 from Walmart and a prayer 🙏.
    Thank you for coming to my TedTalks.
    ❤️☕️❤️☕️❤️☕️❤️☕️❤️☕️❤️☕️❤️

    • @ockertoustesizem1234
      @ockertoustesizem1234 3 роки тому +1

      what kind of bottled water do you use

    • @xjrisjfnfnr
      @xjrisjfnfnr 3 роки тому +1

      @@ockertoustesizem1234 we buy bottled water in bulk from whatever store we recently shopped at. We always buy generic store brand. Costco/Fred Meyer/Walmart.... it’s all the same.

  • @shaniashorter9779
    @shaniashorter9779 4 роки тому +2

    I love the tone and humor in this video ! I must subscribe !

  • @nononsense2731
    @nononsense2731 3 роки тому +2

    Clear, concise, to the point. Great going.

  • @collin1253
    @collin1253 5 років тому +7

    That intro is gold thanks for the video 🤘😂

  • @yavorkrustev9127
    @yavorkrustev9127 4 роки тому +4

    I recently found our old extra cheap drip coffee maker which I intend to use in my garage. This video gave me some very useful suggestions and interesting information as I hope to make the best possible coffee with it. I am used to good espresso so this should be fun. Thanks.

  • @suzannedepadro9265
    @suzannedepadro9265 3 роки тому +6

    I want to tell you I just made the best cup of coffee better than Starbucks by following your steps I heated my water first also! Thank you 😊 May you be blessed with many blessings🙏🏻Jesus come into my heart ❤️ Holy Spirit fill me 💦Father thank you for saving me🙏🏻 Amen

  • @christinehuff3879
    @christinehuff3879 9 місяців тому

    Your voice is so relaxing! I need to pay attention and sort my coffee problems.

  • @bagoroismaelarnaud2531
    @bagoroismaelarnaud2531 Рік тому

    So far so good. Easy to use. Easy to set up. So many modes.

  • @jaytash1021
    @jaytash1021 4 роки тому +39

    Petition to make his voice a computer voice

  • @Felix-zx3on
    @Felix-zx3on 4 роки тому +2

    The last coffee maker I bought stopped working after about 6 months, I got tired of buying new machines every
    few months, so CHEMEX is my current maker with no continuing electrical problems.

    • @impulsesystems
      @impulsesystems 4 роки тому +1

      Chemex gets over the plastic problem. Good job! You still need to know the water temperature. Boil the water and let the water cool just a little...

  • @heroknaderi
    @heroknaderi 3 роки тому +2

    Very detailed information ℹ️

  • @pranto3856
    @pranto3856 3 місяці тому

    That's really helpful, thank you.

  • @randomlutrandomlut3450
    @randomlutrandomlut3450 2 роки тому

    Thanks to this video, my coffee turns out better after trying out some of of these trick (the cleaning, swinging the shower head, and the stirring) maybe if i try all the tricks here, it can be much better but even those 3 tricks works out for me. so thank you! such a big help.

  • @alexperry1636
    @alexperry1636 5 років тому +2

    Hope you make more like this for different machines!

  • @robertpapps3618
    @robertpapps3618 Місяць тому

    Great tips, thanks much!

  • @ThatJew305
    @ThatJew305 4 місяці тому

    I loved this. Thank you. Simple sweet and well said

  • @carlodurian3730
    @carlodurian3730 Рік тому

    3:47 Love the humor! And yet very informative

  • @jesseobrien5864
    @jesseobrien5864 4 роки тому +1

    I just cleaned my Mr. Coffee coffee maker with four cups of vinegar. Turned it off after 2 1/2 cups had ran through. Waited a half hour ran the other 1 1/2 cups. Then recirculated the hot vinegar like he's talking about doing with the coffee. And omg. My coffee pot's cleaner than when I got it I think. Guess I'll make some coffee in the morning. The trick is a Burr grinder from what I have learned so far.

  • @austinbevis4266
    @austinbevis4266 7 місяців тому

    I can’t wait to try this! Thanks for the great guide

  • @ekeji
    @ekeji Рік тому

    Your voice is so relaxing!

  • @abdullahasif5819
    @abdullahasif5819 2 роки тому +1

    Came here for the first time and I am your 1000th subscriber xD

  • @ariel9776
    @ariel9776 5 років тому +4

    Come for the food hacks, stayed for them and that adorable lil water bear.

    • @Mormoran
      @Mormoran 5 років тому +1

      Was about to comment on it, but you beat me to it!

  • @philipdeppen8593
    @philipdeppen8593 2 роки тому +1

    I always do a hot water pour over in my auto dripper as I turn it on. That makes a huge difference. Than I stir the grounds after pot is half way through. No hot water in reservoir necessary if you do it that way 😏

  • @sittingduhk
    @sittingduhk 3 місяці тому

    put it in warming mode and use it as a pour over coffee maker with a separate kettle

  • @aarone9000
    @aarone9000 10 місяців тому

    My first drip maker cost; 8.$ it lasyed for about 10 years. I was completly happy with it. When It died and I went to replace it; the cost went up to 14. Still worth it.

  • @alexanderarthur7688
    @alexanderarthur7688 2 роки тому

    Made it simple stupid easy. Thanks man.

  • @Justin-lx6ku
    @Justin-lx6ku Рік тому

    Well done, what a proper explanation that was.

  • @akashagarwal829
    @akashagarwal829 4 роки тому

    Wow........great analysis. Sincerely hope a firm from the coffee machine making industry watches this video to manufacture a perfect maker suitable for the mass.

  • @sharonlatour6230
    @sharonlatour6230 3 роки тому +2

    I heated my water first, the coffee maker brewed so slow, I thought I had ruined it. They are designed to start with room temp water. You could ruin your coffee maker by doing so.

  • @pinkstar9430
    @pinkstar9430 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the great tips. I cleaned my machine as you instructed. Too bad I started brewing my coffee right before you mentioned the water temp tip 💀lol. I got a 175 F temp! I will heat my water first next time!

  • @klaasinsession
    @klaasinsession 2 роки тому

    Very informative video because I just ordered a old school machine.

  • @edwardlee9163
    @edwardlee9163 2 роки тому

    Many thanks for your information. Well explained with reason behind.

  • @Maltlicky50
    @Maltlicky50 3 місяці тому +1

    Is there significant water loss in the recirculation process? Should a little water be added after the first run-through?

  • @craigbond7877
    @craigbond7877 9 місяців тому

    Excellent!
    Thank you.

  • @edrunyon9847
    @edrunyon9847 4 роки тому

    Great info! I am always trying to explain to my customers about "better coffee". Looking forward to new content!

  • @garthwright590
    @garthwright590 3 роки тому

    Excellent. To the point. Very helpful. Thanks!

  • @cygnusrider
    @cygnusrider Рік тому +2

    My personal experience is that if you are going with a basic 10 or 12 cup machine, stick with the 900 watt models. The 700 watt models just do not get hot enough, and the resulting coffee is so so.

    • @rfink222
      @rfink222 4 місяці тому

      I have a 12 cup 900 watt cheapo Mr. Coffee maker. When I brew 4 cups which is really about 2 10 oz cups and use 2 tablespoons of coffee all the grounds get covered by the hot water and the coffee comes out tasting pretty good. Thanks for that important tip of using a higher wattage model because I was thinking of downgrading to a smaller lower wattage cheap coffee maker.

  • @will6176
    @will6176 3 роки тому

    just the kind of video i was looking for, props

  • @rpo8a
    @rpo8a 3 роки тому

    Well done!!! Loved it and saved it! What else do you have in your playlist???💪🔥

  • @luisa.espinoza48
    @luisa.espinoza48 3 роки тому

    I would also suggest changing the filter for a stainless steel one or paper, my cheap machine came with a plastic filter

  • @johndeaux5122
    @johndeaux5122 3 роки тому

    Such good info and suggestions....

  • @MrDDiRusso
    @MrDDiRusso 4 роки тому +1

    I used distilled water in my machine so it doesn't leave mineral deposits. I'm sure it changes the flavor of the coffee, but I'm used to it.
    The recirculating tip is one I'm going to try.

    • @petertardigrade4485
      @petertardigrade4485  4 роки тому

      If I could, may I suggest you try a low-mineral water instead of distilled? Distilled really makes strange flavors in coffee, in my experience. It's also not great to ingest on its own. Standard bottled water is one thing to try, like crystal geyser?

  • @gamesdude108
    @gamesdude108 Рік тому +17

    Why dose drinking coffee have to be so complicated

    • @rfink222
      @rfink222 4 місяці тому +4

      It doesn't but it seems people turn it into an unnecessary complicated ordeal.

    • @trevorminton6084
      @trevorminton6084 4 місяці тому +3

      It's one of those things that's simple and straightforward, but people center their whole personality around overcomplicating it. Like jeans, pickup trucks, and cast iron pans

    • @meekmeek7991
      @meekmeek7991 3 місяці тому

      I mean, we can argue the same things about the food we eat, the cars we drive, and the beds we sleep on

    • @azinaripin3333
      @azinaripin3333 3 місяці тому

      You know art?

    • @camilabriceno2552
      @camilabriceno2552 3 місяці тому +2

      Because we have tastebuds

  • @grimmssocalledlife4140
    @grimmssocalledlife4140 3 роки тому

    My trick is adding a pinch of chicory. It’s actually a very old trick my grandmother taught it to me

  • @myronvenero9371
    @myronvenero9371 4 роки тому +1

    Finally! Thanks for the vid!!

  • @rodtupal5264
    @rodtupal5264 4 роки тому

    I'm thinking perfect coffee will make perfect voice too . Thanks for being honest coffee lover.

  • @sergiodjf
    @sergiodjf 3 роки тому

    I needed these tips from a coffee connoisseur 👏☕️

  • @SpiritLedServant
    @SpiritLedServant Рік тому

    Excellent video.

  • @Fridayyet
    @Fridayyet 9 місяців тому

    I wake up at 4am, I don't have time or patience to do all of this. But Thank you for the information

  • @DaChicago3
    @DaChicago3 9 місяців тому

    I may be four years late, but great tips and thank you for the informative and helpful video! ☕

  • @brenny3997
    @brenny3997 3 роки тому

    I don't drink coffee but I watched this so I could make better coffee for my wife. Subscribed to help get you to 1000 :)

  • @burakgencer65
    @burakgencer65 3 роки тому

    Such a badass, well educated coffee guy!

  • @gamingwilley3069
    @gamingwilley3069 5 років тому +1

    Great content! I would love to see a video on espresso machine tips or French press.

    • @petertardigrade4485
      @petertardigrade4485  5 років тому

      I might make an espresso video, but not too many people have espresso machines...

  • @frozenhouse5362
    @frozenhouse5362 Рік тому

    by far the hardest part of fasting is the boredom. If you've never done a multiday fast, you have no idea the enormous amount of your daily time is spent thinking about, preparing, or eating food. Depending on your lifestyle, it can be really hard to fill all that extra free time. If you want a fast to be easy, start it when you are very busy

  • @impulsesystems
    @impulsesystems 4 роки тому

    Water temperature, grind size, NO PLASTIC and time on the bean. These are the important parameters. Thanks for addressing most of these. Plastic bodied coffee makers are still a concern. Glass and steel are better. See, for example Chemex.
    Kruve has a range of sifters to control the grind size, better than your grinder can achieve, at the price of some waste.

  • @patrickbennett439
    @patrickbennett439 Рік тому

    Yea, i like waiting till the pot is done brewing to grab a cup. Or close to being done and grab like a quarter cup lol. I try to not offset the coffee and do that thing to it.

  • @taylorharbin3948
    @taylorharbin3948 Рік тому +1

    I’m starting to think this is why people go to Starbucks. Something like this shouldn’t be complicated or expensive.

    • @annad5130
      @annad5130 11 місяців тому

      But have you had Starbucks drip coffee? It’s not very good either.

    • @QsQs-du9xp
      @QsQs-du9xp 5 місяців тому

      Starbucks coffee is by far the worse coffee. 😂

  • @Vic-vh1hd
    @Vic-vh1hd 3 роки тому

    Good and helpful research

  • @sylverg8341
    @sylverg8341 4 роки тому

    Well now my coffee problems make sense! 🤔What a great video and it was done very professionally.

  • @stanblackburn700
    @stanblackburn700 Рік тому

    Excellent!

  • @alexyandukin768
    @alexyandukin768 Рік тому

    1:40 Recirculate water; why have I never thought of that?!

  • @alexanderradec
    @alexanderradec 3 місяці тому

    this video definitely helped me lol why does coffee have to be complicated

  • @jimmydonohoe6808
    @jimmydonohoe6808 5 років тому +2

    A lot of college students would seriously benefit from seeing this vid

  • @moonhorizon9245
    @moonhorizon9245 3 роки тому +2

    thank you bro. luckily my coffee machine already has one of those special showerheads even though its cheap. so i just needed to pour the water back once and then brew.

  • @igotanM16
    @igotanM16 Рік тому +1

    4-7 minutes? I have a 12 cup brewer that takes 14 minutes to fully brew.

  • @collin1253
    @collin1253 5 років тому +4

    I'm surprised those peices of metal haven't made your pot break.

  • @pondertwn
    @pondertwn 2 роки тому

    Good stuff my man!

  • @cdub29va
    @cdub29va 4 роки тому

    Amazing ! I believe my sour coffee was due to not being mixed properly. I see the kitchen smith has the bad drip 💧 system. Pre-mixing solve this thank you so much thanks 🙏🏽

    • @DJdecoder
      @DJdecoder 4 роки тому

      If you coffee is sour, try adding a pinch of salt! It helped me!!

  • @Michael_Jackson187
    @Michael_Jackson187 3 роки тому

    I can tell your smart as hell what a god

  • @Aston3003
    @Aston3003 Рік тому

    You can clean the entire machine with water? Is the heating element gonna be mad if it gets water? Do cheap makers even allow you to clean it like that?

  • @FireBird7766
    @FireBird7766 3 роки тому +1

    My take away from this was just use a blessed kettle and have pour over. It'd end up being less faff

  • @victoriamatilda86
    @victoriamatilda86 3 роки тому

    Quality video am glad

  • @kms386
    @kms386 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Very interesting. I of course imagine you do have a good coffee maker you use each morning to avoid this process? Or Aeropress

  • @MasterCheese11
    @MasterCheese11 5 років тому +1

    Good video. Needs more B-roll

  • @koraytugay
    @koraytugay 9 місяців тому

    What is water recirculation?

  • @michaelolson7626
    @michaelolson7626 5 років тому +1

    I had a big long comment about the coffee rabbit hole I think we all fell down at one point or another to end up on this video. I just wanted to say I tried the stirring, after checking and finding a massive dry island. That alone made the coffee 1000x better. Do you have a grinder that you'd recommend for grinding your own fresh beans?
    Thanks again for the info! :D

    • @petertardigrade4485
      @petertardigrade4485  5 років тому +1

      Hario, capresso, and Baratza make the best budget coffee grinders. (Increasing in order of price)
      Stirring is huge. It makes all your coffee touch all your water.

  • @sdnl2846
    @sdnl2846 3 роки тому

    Simple nice video

  • @markscott8663
    @markscott8663 3 роки тому +1

    Bonavita coffee maker $99.00 it works with out being a pain.

  • @israteeg752
    @israteeg752 4 місяці тому

    Here is another cheap alternate solution: "go mechanical" and re-learn to use a "civ" or a moka pot .

  • @joneslani
    @joneslani 4 роки тому

    this is my kind of thinking

  • @JoejoeReference
    @JoejoeReference 4 роки тому +2

    1:45 200 F is 93.3 C, not 71 C.

  • @orangeblossom6650
    @orangeblossom6650 5 років тому +6

    I got 2 coffee makers gift from friends
    And dayyyuum I'm not even coffee fan😂

  • @dry509
    @dry509 3 місяці тому

    What ratio?

  • @DazeyChaineMusic
    @DazeyChaineMusic 10 місяців тому

    i’ve found using purified water also helps w flavor. i’ll try these other tips as well and see if it’s even better

  • @unicornblow6874
    @unicornblow6874 Рік тому +1

    FINALLY I CAN MAKE A COFFEE I ENJOY!!! I’ve took your advice and I offer many, MANY thanks to you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻.. you cracked the code 😮

  • @superatech
    @superatech 4 роки тому

    I would love freshly ground coffee. but it is very expensive compared to Maxwell House. Please, anyone, do you have a suggestion?

  • @Yeltannn
    @Yeltannn 4 роки тому

    can you use mesh cloth instead of paper?

  • @uhavemooface
    @uhavemooface 4 роки тому

    I do two rounds of vinegar and two rounds of water. After that I make me a cup of coffee.

  • @yokiryuchan7655
    @yokiryuchan7655 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah.... I am not going to do any of that. I'd rather just buy a better coffee maker

  • @custer2449
    @custer2449 11 місяців тому

    Steam distilled water and you're home free.

  • @dailydoseofrainvideos5658
    @dailydoseofrainvideos5658 3 роки тому +1

    Coffee tip: Starbucks sells really reasonable priced 250g coffee beans and when you buy you can ask them to grind for free exactly to how your machine uses ground coffee if youre like me who doesnt have a grinder

    • @petervansan1054
      @petervansan1054 2 роки тому +1

      preground AND disgusting beans from starbucks? What a terrible advice