This is the best explanation of the forehand loop on YT. Period. I'd just add, moving body balance from right to left foot (righthander) during the follow through is important too.
I'm a tennis player, who was looking to review some modern forehand stroke mechanics. I just stumbled on your Forehand Loop Instruction video. Before seeing your video, I would not have imagined, that table tennis stroke mechanics, could be this elaborate. Your talent to play is equally matched with your ability to instruct. Great video! For me, the takeaway is that both the table tennis forehand and the tennis forehand, share the same stroke mechanics principally. I can see this experience helping me with my game. - Thanks
Bertan Atac I always found that you could recognise a tennis player that started table tennis late. Firstly their footwork was very different, body position more upright, and stroke less fluid (possibly because of hitting a heavier ball with a heavier bat), different follow through too.
Good video, Brian. My favorite part was when you showed yourself in side-view doing a loop in slow motion. This allowed me to more easily see your racket angle, contact point on the ball, and angle of arm motion. The forehand loop is what I've recently been trying to improve, so I'm hoping I can take what you've said in this video and put it into practice!
I'm pretty much a beginner and I watched this video and was immediately making some nice forehand loops. Thanks *so much* for posting this excellent instructions.
I was struggling with my forehand (lacking expert advice), I watched this video, I thought a bit about it, then I went to training. It's obviously not a magic button, I need to practice a lot, but it made a huge difference. I know what to pay attention to now. Thank you!
I learned forehand loop from this video 8 Yers ago. For some reason I stopped playing recently and did not know what was missing. Body positioning is what was missing. Thanks a lot coach for making me come back to you
Hi Brian, I've read most of the comments and I'm also someone who love table tennis a lot. What you are doing here most of us appreciate and we want to get better so thank you. I can't help but be in absolute disgust, at the clear racist derogatory remarks made by some disrespectful viewers. Who cares if he isn't top ten in the world, the thing is he has enough credentials and competed at a level above many of us have. He's sharing actual good old sound advice, but yet the haters are on here trying to pick apart everything, in the end even if he was ranked world number 1. It's obvious their only hate is that he's good but because he's "BLACK" what he has to say shouldn't be credible! Now he is on here having to defend himself for not being Chinese or Asian. None of his tireless well illustrated and executed examples are valid it seems. Let's focus on him celebrating after winning a game point, oh he's bragging some have said! That's utter bull shhhhh***t. Why so much HATE?
My friend, you couldn't have said it more eloquently. l appreciate you taking the time really show that you are thankful for my effort and passion to teach. You are a Class Act
I have seen asian instructors on UA-cam reference the mechanics in this video as proper. They are recommending his videos. It makes no difference where he is from or what he looks like. What matters is that he has amazing skills and is willing to help others to improve. Great job Brian.
its been 5 years i post here and used the information to improve myself.......man ....no one at my place want to play the forehand side unless i'm out of position (i'm short). this video is gold hands down. as for the haters, they are everywhere unfortunately.
Thank you for condensing your 20+ years of hard earned experience into a clear and concise step-by-step video. I can tell you put a lot of thought into it, as evidenced by the quality. As a tennis player, I bet you would have a pretty mean tennis forehand as well!
So it's all about stroke mechanics! I've mastered a different series of stroke mechanics by the time I was 13 years old. Not sure if I could I use it on Table Tennis though.
Mr. Pace I been searching for the perfect forehand and finally my search is over. I am a amateur at best playing at work during my breaks. I want to take my game to the next level. At the moment my back hand is my best weapon, but I have always known the forehand is superior. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this free media. It will be an honor to master this skill from you, thank you.
..and may i add, i am really impressed at your execution of the forehand loop...looks perfect to me, full of spin and speed...i wish mine was closer to that, fact is its far off
Damn. I really enjoy looking this forehand loop video. Im from germany and i play table tennis since 14 years now. I never played really high but still never stopped working on my forehand loop. Trainers have different styles of how to teach the forehand loop and i enjoy taking a look everytime from a different perspective. Watching this forehand loop is really satisfying.
I really enjoyed your video and one word that I will go to bed with is "Mechanics." Thanks, and I can't stand the fact that there are 30 dislikes on this video, it makes no sense. I feel very sorry for those people who publicly criticize a training video that is only here to help us club players improve our game.
I have watched this video many times over the past 2 years and keep coming back to it as it is the best forehand loop instructional video I have found on UA-cam. Great Job Brian.
This reminds me of what my fellow club members tell me, and I need to be reminded of it before I play. Great video, it really shows what makes a great forehand topspin.
Even if his opponents in this video are weak, the tips are very on point and the video was very informative. Awesome form. I don't think he was trying to show how much better he was than the others in the video. He's just showing what a good forehand loop looks like and it's honestly a lot more useful to see him do it in play than have a robot shoot balls at him.
Appreciate you for this video. Explanation is great and easily understood. I'm trying hard to follow your instruction to get looped on my stroke. Victory is ours!
OMG Thank you Mr.Pace I now know what i was doing wrong with my forehand loop. I was putting way too much force on the ball which would cause the ball to go into the net or way into the air. Thanks again
I've just started table tennis for one year now. Still looking for my style and good technique. Your video really help as I think I'm an agressive player and I'm looking for a technique like that... Now I have to work... Thanks from a french player...
Thank you for the time taken to explain techniques and approach to the game, coach. I am sure it will help future superstars in the sport to get a good head start. Hope to say hello when you come to Houston International Table Tennis Association (HITTA).
Thank you Coach Brian for the video. Now, I snap my arm (I used to keep it bent, but not really giving it a snap), now I have more spin and speed in my forehand loop. I am using my right leg, and knee to thrust looping the under spin ball.. I used to loop under spin and ended up dropped to the net because I was using only my upper arm and upper body.. The leg thrust, gives more power also during counter loop... Thank you, and I will watch more...
В своё время олимпийский чемпион по дзюдо из Японии(до1980г.,фамилию не помню) говорил:"я знаю только один приём и сто подходов к нему". Здесь темнокожий теннисист,похоже,полностью соответствует этим словам:весь розыгрыш мяча,начиная от незамысловатой подачи,сводит под четко поставленный топспин.При этом у него очень"быстрые ноги",без которых далеко не продвинешся.Отличный ролик!Лайк!P.S.сам-любитель,играл в студенческие годы(80-е).Сейчас,когда играю,ловлю себя на ощущении,что мои ноги забетонированы, из-за этого проигрываю более слабым по игре,но более подвижным соперникам.Надо"делать ноги"!
This is such a great video...have been struggling with my forehand loop that I used to hit with so much success earlier that I hate it that it just doesn't land in anymore (thanks to a 8 year gap of not playing). Watching this video, I think I just don't get low enough...gotta practice and try this out. Thanks!!!
really beautiful shots. I keep coming back to this vid, but not really learning. I need to focus and really listen to what the host is saying. I did notice he was hitting the ball at the bottom of his paddle. A lot of these sites say to hit at the top of the paddle? I like how this guy hits. This is really an awesome vid, imo
i just want to play table tennis at a high level just like the coach in this video....its hard to learn table tennis in here...but this video is damn good with good explanation
Wow, them hate comments. Sure, was a couple of times indirectly bragging. ( 1:46 no offence) But unless you look at it the worst way possible, the explanations couldn't get much better, Overall, very informative! I've had some precision problems perfecting this loop. I Think my body (especially lower) position was the main problem. My stroke timing can also get a little better. NB: I'm not a tournament player. (at least not yet)
My forehand disappeared after I stopped playing years ago, but it used to be my strong point...Now players attack it to avoid my backhand...sigh. Hopefully, after watching this video I can not only get it back, but improve it leaps and bounds. Maybe then I can graduate from playing guys in Brooklyn, to playing those top players in China Town...or maybe not. 😝Thanks for sharing!
Thanks that is awesome man I learned so much because of you. You are the most reliable tt instructor on youtube you are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again.
Hey! I simply would like to give an enormous thumbs up for the great video information you have right here on this post. I will probably be coming back to your vid for more soon.
Hi Brian, The instructional video is just unbelievable ..Many thanks. . I have 4 questions and i hope you can answer them. 1) Could you please explain the point of footwork containing foot placement and foot speed a little in details? How do you exactly line up the anchor food with the coming ball? Which angle and how far is the ball from the body or the the anchor foot? i mean if you look at 6:48 the ball seems to be far away from the body and the line you put between the ball and the anchor foot is sometimes like this and sometimes its more vertical (ball ist closer to the body) It's a little confusing and i think it's an important point. 2) What do you mean by foot speed? 3) In your backswing, how far or close is the elbow from the body? do you keep it close or do you take the elbow and the racket a bit to the back? how does this affect the power transfer and the accuracy of the shot? 4) Stroke Prodution: You said the angle in the elbow needs to be close to 90 degree as possible. At 6:48 and in many other shots it seems like the arm is streched out to 180° when the ball contacts the table ..How do explain this? I woud appreciate your answers and i'm sure they will help others as well.
I'm impressed by your footwork, which is the most fundamental to higher level players. The only thing I would add is that at the end of the forehand loop motion, your body should have a slight momentum to lean forward instead of going from right to left. This will increase the spin and speed of your loop.
Hey Brain where r u nowadays days? u have uploaded some great tutorial videos, request you to upload more videos, all these r old ones, waiting for new tutorials, thx for these great uploads. I highly appreciate it.
The best lesson I have seen about the forehand loop so far. But comes the question: If I am facing a very good forehand loop on the other side of the table, what should I do to avoid my opponents loop to win straight away?
This is the best explanation of the forehand loop on YT. Period.
I'd just add, moving body balance from right to left foot (righthander) during the follow through is important too.
Wow! If this doesn't cover everything - what does?!! Never saw a more instructional, detailed video than this. Also good graphics. Bravo.
I'm a tennis player, who was looking to review some modern forehand stroke mechanics. I just stumbled on your Forehand Loop Instruction video. Before seeing your video, I would not have imagined, that table tennis stroke mechanics, could be this elaborate. Your talent to play is equally matched with your ability to instruct. Great video! For me, the takeaway is that both the table tennis forehand and the tennis forehand, share the same stroke mechanics principally. I can see this experience helping me with my game. - Thanks
Bertan Atac I always found that you could recognise a tennis player that started table tennis late. Firstly their footwork was very different, body position more upright, and stroke less fluid (possibly because of hitting a heavier ball with a heavier bat), different follow through too.
Good video, Brian. My favorite part was when you showed yourself in side-view doing a loop in slow motion. This allowed me to more easily see your racket angle, contact point on the ball, and angle of arm motion. The forehand loop is what I've recently been trying to improve, so I'm hoping I can take what you've said in this video and put it into practice!
I'm pretty much a beginner and I watched this video and was immediately making some nice forehand loops. Thanks *so much* for posting this excellent instructions.
Most sound, educated, and thorough instructional ping pong video I've seen.
Thanks Karl!
+DynamicTableTennisTV Thanks for this really instructive video. A question: what rubber do you use to execute such a fast forehand loop?
I was struggling with my forehand (lacking expert advice), I watched this video, I thought a bit about it, then I went to training. It's obviously not a magic button, I need to practice a lot, but it made a huge difference. I know what to pay attention to now. Thank you!
I learned forehand loop from this video 8 Yers ago. For some reason I stopped playing recently and did not know what was missing. Body positioning is what was missing. Thanks a lot coach for making me come back to you
Hi Brian, I've read most of the comments and I'm also someone who love table tennis a lot. What you are doing here most of us appreciate and we want to get better so thank you. I can't help but be in absolute disgust, at the clear racist derogatory remarks made by some disrespectful viewers.
Who cares if he isn't top ten in the world, the thing is he has enough credentials and competed at a level above many of us have. He's sharing actual good old sound advice, but yet the haters are on here trying to pick apart everything, in the end even if he was ranked world number 1. It's obvious their only hate is that he's good but because he's "BLACK" what he has to say shouldn't be credible!
Now he is on here having to defend himself for not being Chinese or Asian. None of his tireless well illustrated and executed examples are valid it seems. Let's focus on him celebrating after winning a game point, oh he's bragging some have said! That's utter bull shhhhh***t. Why so much HATE?
My friend, you couldn't have said it more eloquently. l appreciate you taking the time really show that you are thankful for my effort and passion to teach.
You are a Class Act
I have seen asian instructors on UA-cam reference the mechanics in this video as proper. They are recommending his videos. It makes no difference where he is from or what he looks like. What matters is that he has amazing skills and is willing to help others to improve. Great job Brian.
Sir, 3 years from when this comment was made and I still thank you for the instructions. You really helped me a lot.
its been 5 years i post here and used the information to improve myself.......man ....no one at my place want to play the forehand side unless i'm out of position (i'm short). this video is gold hands down. as for the haters, they are everywhere unfortunately.
Wait he's black....... sorry I didn't notice!
Thank you for condensing your 20+ years of hard earned experience into a clear and concise step-by-step video. I can tell you put a lot of thought into it, as evidenced by the quality. As a tennis player, I bet you would have a pretty mean tennis forehand as well!
I appreciate your fast footwork in setting up your loops. Very very athletic. Excellent.
So it's all about stroke mechanics! I've mastered a different series of stroke mechanics by the time I was 13 years old. Not sure if I could I use it on Table Tennis though.
polymathecian lmao how do u not have more comments on this
polymathecian lmao
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Mr. Pace I been searching for the perfect forehand and finally my search is over. I am a amateur at best playing at work during my breaks. I want to take my game to the next level. At the moment my back hand is my best weapon, but I have always known the forehand is superior. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this free media. It will be an honor to master this skill from you, thank you.
This was one of the first videos I watched when I started getting serious about table tennis in 2018. My form is better for it. Thank you!
Bravo my friend
..and may i add, i am really impressed at your execution of the forehand loop...looks perfect to me, full of spin and speed...i wish mine was closer to that, fact is its far off
Damn, your forehand strikes are sick.
This is one of the best ping pong videos on UA-cam. Even as a penholder, I enjoyed this
Damn. I really enjoy looking this forehand loop video. Im from germany and i play table tennis since 14 years now. I never played really high but still never stopped working on my forehand loop. Trainers have different styles of how to teach the forehand loop and i enjoy taking a look everytime from a different perspective. Watching this forehand loop is really satisfying.
I must study this in order to further my quest of becoming a table tennis wizard.
Yeah bro
Be black first.
@@flagella1337 ok step 1 finished what's next
Always on the attack is my favorite style of play. You are really bringing it!
I really enjoyed your video and one word that I will go to bed with is "Mechanics." Thanks, and I can't stand the fact that there are 30 dislikes on this video, it makes no sense. I feel very sorry for those people who publicly criticize a training video that is only here to help us club players improve our game.
his stroke is beautiful. keeps a consistent bat angle, starts low and back, uses core to generate power. really nice.
the technique he has and that fist is wonderful
This is probably the most detailed instructional video I’ve seen in Ping-Pong.... Nice work 👍🏼🏓
this is by far the best tutorial for forehand loop... thank you.
I just started playing and this video has helped my forehand exponentially. Thanks
I constantly sail over the table. Just started playing a two months back and I’m addicted.
Your playing style is beautiful and consistent
I have watched this video many times over the past 2 years and keep coming back to it as it is the best forehand loop instructional video I have found on UA-cam. Great Job Brian.
I agree!
This technique is crucial for table tennis. By mastering it, we can learn other skills more easily. Thanks for your sharing.
One of the best table tennis video I have ever seen!
Beautiful video. one of the best I ever seen about Top Spin
Wonderful video. So clear and well thought-out. Everything you say here rings true. Pure gold! Thank you, Brian!
This reminds me of what my fellow club members tell me, and I need to be reminded of it before I play. Great video, it really shows what makes a great forehand topspin.
You play so well.
Mr. Pace, thank you for such a comprehensive breakdown of the forehand loop. For the record, I own your Butterfly racquet!
Thanks alot! :)
I finally mastered my topspin shots, This was the best how-to video I've seen!
Sometimes I was a bit like "woah this is complicated" but actually the way u break it down is amazing 😊
I think this video does a very good job at explaining the technique. Thank you, it is much appreciated.
Brilliant video, very clear and informative. I will put some of these tips to play in tomorrow’s training session. Thanks for the video!
Excellent video! Thanks for breaking things down step by step.
wow this is such a comprehensive guide. Great work and thankyou for what you do.
Very interesting I have to watch the video several times to understand all tips. Congratulations!
There are quite a few really good table tennis channels, but this one is top 1% IMO.
Even if his opponents in this video are weak, the tips are very on point and the video was very informative. Awesome form. I don't think he was trying to show how much better he was than the others in the video. He's just showing what a good forehand loop looks like and it's honestly a lot more useful to see him do it in play than have a robot shoot balls at him.
@4:12 He's like "NO not that again man!" lol
Appreciate you for this video. Explanation is great and easily understood. I'm trying hard to follow your instruction to get looped on my stroke. Victory is ours!
OMG Thank you Mr.Pace I now know what i was doing wrong with my forehand loop. I was putting way too much force on the ball which would cause the ball to go into the net or way into the air. Thanks again
I've just started table tennis for one year now. Still looking for my style and good technique.
Your video really help as I think I'm an agressive player and I'm looking for a technique like that...
Now I have to work...
Thanks from a french player...
The beat video I have seen so far. I have tje same technique and speed (still at 57), but my timing has a lot to be desired.
Suli you are still the best I’ve seen!
I appreciate ya family.
These videos are awesome. Keep em coming.
Thank you for the time taken to explain techniques and approach to the game, coach. I am sure it will help future superstars in the sport to get a good head start. Hope to say hello when you come to Houston International Table Tennis Association (HITTA).
I learn table tennis and improve game by dynamic table tennis . thank you sir .
Thank you Coach Brian for the video. Now, I snap my arm (I used to keep it bent, but not really giving it a snap), now I have more spin and speed in my forehand loop. I am using my right leg, and knee to thrust looping the under spin ball.. I used to loop under spin and ended up dropped to the net because I was using only my upper arm and upper body.. The leg thrust, gives more power also during counter loop... Thank you, and I will watch more...
В своё время олимпийский чемпион по дзюдо из Японии(до1980г.,фамилию не помню) говорил:"я знаю только один приём и сто подходов к нему". Здесь темнокожий теннисист,похоже,полностью соответствует этим словам:весь розыгрыш мяча,начиная от незамысловатой подачи,сводит под четко поставленный топспин.При этом у него очень"быстрые ноги",без которых далеко не продвинешся.Отличный ролик!Лайк!P.S.сам-любитель,играл в студенческие годы(80-е).Сейчас,когда играю,ловлю себя на ощущении,что мои ноги забетонированы, из-за этого проигрываю более слабым по игре,но более подвижным соперникам.Надо"делать ноги"!
brilliant mate good advice thanks and love from australia
@4:15 -> The opponent is helplessly going "NOT AGAIN!!" xD great vid!
sup g. u got yourself a subscriber. your video really help me to improve my poor table tennis techniques.
Thanks buddy, I appreciate you taking the time to look through the video and implement it into your training.
Bravo my friend
Brian
This is such a great video...have been struggling with my forehand loop that I used to hit with so much success earlier that I hate it that it just doesn't land in anymore (thanks to a 8 year gap of not playing). Watching this video, I think I just don't get low enough...gotta practice and try this out. Thanks!!!
really beautiful shots. I keep coming back to this vid, but not really learning. I need to focus and really listen to what the host is saying.
I did notice he was hitting the ball at the bottom of his paddle. A lot of these sites say to hit at the top of the paddle? I like how this guy hits. This is really an awesome vid, imo
i just want to play table tennis at a high level just like the coach in this video....its hard to learn table tennis in here...but this video is damn good with good explanation
Watching in 2015, Best video.
Perfect explanation
Great video ,I learned some important things from that . Thank you!
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thanks for the post!
fast strike, and I see a lot of spin in that ball. You are a powerful player for sure.
This is very similar to the tennis forehand top spin. I will have to give this a try!! Great vid!!
Very important point about height surplus and deficit!
Wow, them hate comments. Sure, was a couple of times indirectly bragging. ( 1:46 no offence) But unless you look at it the worst way possible, the explanations couldn't get much better, Overall, very informative! I've had some precision problems perfecting this loop. I Think my body (especially lower) position was the main problem. My stroke timing can also get a little better. NB: I'm not a tournament player. (at least not yet)
He is like the Neil deGrasse Tyson of table tennis
+zack planca spot on!
+zack planca You should have kept that thought inside, or, better yet, not had it at all.
+Robert Schwartz agreed
+zack planca Having a hard time determining whether that was intended as a compliment or an insult.
+PongGod Well, it isn't. Nuff said.
My forehand disappeared after I stopped playing years ago, but it used to be my strong point...Now players attack it to avoid my backhand...sigh. Hopefully, after watching this video I can not only get it back, but improve it leaps and bounds. Maybe then I can graduate from playing guys in Brooklyn, to playing those top players in China Town...or maybe not. 😝Thanks for sharing!
Thanks that is awesome man I learned so much because of you. You are the most reliable tt instructor on youtube you are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again.
Thanks buddy
thnks a lot for your video. this is a good video for me
각도,타이밍,푸더웍등등이 하나가 되어야 되겠죠 잘 편집하셨네요
Thank you
Hey! I simply would like to give an enormous thumbs up for the great video information you have right here on this post. I will probably be coming back to your vid for more soon.
Great explanation Bryan
Great insight, really helped me. Perhaps you could make a video about footwork and tall people! Thanks :D
Great instructions
damn .. you have the beautiful forehand shot from 7:45 to 8:00.. superb
Спасибо за видео, очень много важных нюансов показано, очень полезно для любого уровня любителей
Nicely taught, helping the forehand loop already.
Thank you
Hi Brian,
The instructional video is just unbelievable ..Many thanks. . I have 4 questions and i hope you can answer them.
1) Could you please explain the point of footwork containing foot placement and foot speed a little in details? How do you exactly line up the anchor food with the coming ball? Which angle and how far is the ball from the body or the the anchor foot? i mean if you look at 6:48 the ball seems to be far away from the body and the line you put between the ball and the anchor foot is sometimes like this and sometimes its more vertical (ball ist closer to the body) It's a little confusing and i think it's an important point.
2) What do you mean by foot speed?
3) In your backswing, how far or close is the elbow from the body? do you keep it close or do you take the elbow and the racket a bit to the back? how does this affect the power transfer and the accuracy of the shot?
4) Stroke Prodution: You said the angle in the elbow needs to be close to 90 degree as possible. At 6:48 and in many other shots it seems like the arm is streched out to 180° when the ball contacts the table ..How do explain this?
I woud appreciate your answers and i'm sure they will help others as well.
Forrest is in trouble
+KingStix You mean jungle? :D
Steevy84 xD sry i miss typed
I'm impressed by your footwork, which is the most fundamental to higher level players. The only thing I would add is that at the end of the forehand loop motion, your body should have a slight momentum to lean forward instead of going from right to left. This will increase the spin and speed of your loop.
Great video, coach! Thanks for sharing.
Nice video Brian - has got me off the bottom of the office rankings !
Awesome Bill. Keep going buddy. Reach the top
*Backhand has left the chat*
Hey Brain where r u nowadays days? u have uploaded some great tutorial videos, request you to upload more videos, all these r old ones, waiting for new tutorials, thx for these great uploads. I highly appreciate it.
This video is absolute gold !
Incredible shots
thanks a lot, for these important info and details about the forehand loop
Helped a lot , improved a lot in my forehand smash's
Im going to try it tonight! i think i can manage but have to train for that footwork
First got knowledge for lopping ! thanks buddy
Great video that side angle hoped the most
Great video, GREAT forehand loop.
This video was awesome!Taught me a lot
Thanks for a great instructional video!
wow great video explained thoroughly and well, but if I can do it is a different story, lots of things to think about
great video ..congratulations... fantastic mouvement
The best lesson I have seen about the forehand loop so far.
But comes the question:
If I am facing a very good forehand loop on the other side of the table, what should I do to avoid my opponents loop to win straight away?
Attack first, have a strong serve to make your opponent uncomfortable, serve to their backhand, don't serve long or block weakly to their forehand.