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I went to UTI and I feel like I wouldn’t be where I am in my career without it. Then again I was the guy constantly studying always payed attention in class and never missed a day. I was a high school drop out so I felt like I had something to prove. I know a lot of guys that were in class with me that weren’t as successful as me and I know guys that are more successful in this business. School is what you make of it. If they’re cheaper better options in your community go there but at the end of the day. What you put in is what you get out
Having a UTI is really ,really painful. 😂
loooool
I went to uti for half of the program. It helped me get my foot in the door at a dealer, but that’s about it. My mentor told me to drop out and use the money for tools. My mentor taught me more in 6 months than uti ever did. This was 20 years ago tho. These days it’s hard to get someone to mentor you. Dealerships throw you into flat rate way to soon. I say go to a trade school, apply at a dealer while in school. Don’t be cocky when you get a job. Be cool with the senior techs and hopefully someone will take you under their wing. Here’s a tip. When you ask someone for help don’t go around asking everyone the same question. That’s a quick way to get on someone’s bad side.
There's one guy at my shop that asks the same question to everyone at least 3x. Needless to say I avoid helping him.
@@itsreaper1644 that’s is so aggravating. What he’s doing is trying to find the easiest answer. 100% stop helping that guy.
I don't understand this logic? I ask the same question to everyone on anything i am attempting to understand. My objective is not to get the easiest answers. It is to gain a different perspective on the answer in hope of understanding a subject. This is thought in school from a very young age and a good skill to master in adulthood Nothing in life is certain.
@@evelynnveleni Very true, but it can come off as insulting to the people you asked prior. Now yes, it doesn't apply to every aspect of life, but if you have been fixing cars for 30 years and someone asks you how to fix a break pad... Giving them a detailed answer and then watching them go ask someone else is aggravating.
I haven't been in the automotive industry tho, I'm just a guy on UA-cam 😂 so I can't comment how it actually be
I graduated from UTI in 2018 doing the Auto/Diesel and Nissan programs. I have no regrets going there. They have great manufacturer outreach programs to get students in the door. It landed me the job where I am at today. Most of the teachers there were very passionate about the trade and cared about your learning process. It is very expensive, but I am doing what I love so it’s worth it to me. I know many great techs that advanced to the level they are now without school and that’s amazing. We learn from each other. Maybe the outcome would be the same for me having gone to a community college or had no schooling at all? Who’s to say? Everyone has a choice.
I started working at a dealership right out of high school. Now I’m a factory trained master technician the dealership I worked at even paid for my food while I was at school. I didn’t pay a dime for any of my training got to invest all my money into tools. We’ve had at least a dozen guys come work at my shop that went to UTI and couldn’t fix a sandwich. I think community college auto program or like you said go to a dealership and get trained for free is the way to go.
I went to a community College for an auto degree. Better idea than scam colleges.
Same I did gm asep at my community college and completed it with no debt at all
@@JoseLopez-eo4eb exactly and it's just as good
@@wecx2375 In my opinion better because while in asep you have a guaranteed job after completing school
Depends on who you talk to calling colleges "scam" colleges. Community colleges are funded by taxpayers of the area. So a taxpayer could consider a community college a scam if they don't utilize it since they are paying $ every year and not receiving any personal benefits.
These technical colleges receive no outside funding and rely on tuition to fund the place.
@m ph lol, we live in a democracy, just become some people don't agree with how taxes are spent doesn't make it a scam. It makes it the political process.
Self taught. Clear $60-100k a year. Took 10 years of on the job learning to make that but it worked out for me.
I have a Doctorate in Advanced Lumen placement and a Bachelors in Automotive Profanities. I went to skool at my dad's training Academy. I was the only student. So basically I have 44 years of experience holding the light and cussing. Lol Thanks dad.
I graduated from UNOH university of northwestern Ohio and I studied high performance motorsports. The high performance side gave me a more in depth feel and knowledge of the automotive industry. I believe UNOH has the best automotive and high performance program and it helped me get into dealerships and get ahead of the game and also give me a boost in the manufacture training having the more in depth knowledge from the high performance program
I went to the Diesel program at UTI in 1987. The tuition was like $6K.
Jobs payed $9-$10 an hour back then. Mechanic jobs were hard to find here in Western Colorado. Still are.
After years of back and forth driving trucks & wrenching I went back to trucking in 2017.
Make more money hauling fuel than I did as a fleet technician ( transit buses )
I went to UTI in 2004 and the one thing I love about it is that after graduation if you wanted to take a class over for a refresher its free. Yes you have to pay for the other classes. I had great instructors and they were always willing to work with us if we had any issues or questions. My great grandma passed away and it was my last class. the instructor worked with me so I could go home for the funeral. I came back passed my class and graduated. It's like anything you get out what you put into it. Now I did have a boss that didn't want to hire me because I went there and he went to either Lincoln Tech or Nashville Auto Diesel, but that was the only bad thing I dealt with.
I went to a local community college. I grabbed every bit of extra curriculum I could. I got a lot out of it, some people got nothing. Its all about what you put in. I graduated with an associates and no debt.
Over here in Delaware we have something called the SEED program where you can get up to an associate degree for free when you go to certain schools and one of them is Del Tech which has an automotive program. I also live 10 minutes away so I can get a free education and not have to travel very far.
As a 39 year master tech,in my many years working with hundreds of different techs back when I was dealership mechanic (usually around 20 techs) we would almost always pass over the UTI and Others because we noticed that they were book smart but not hands on smart. I started out at a Independent pushing a broom and changing oil then went to Nissan /Toyota dealers who then sent me to years of factory training finally BMW recruited me and went to 3 years of BMW training all paid for (including motels ,food and rental cars) .
I never paid for a day of training. It all boils down to hard work,be willing to do demeaning things like mopping shop floors and emptying trash cans and yes keeping a good attitude greatly helps. I’m getting close to retirement and I’m going to miss the $ ( I’m a fleet mechanic for a commercial bakery in California making right at $80K) but my career has been filled with being at the right place at the right time and having a great attitude. Good luck with whatever path you choose.
When I was in high school in 2008 I took automotive at a tech school and during the summer they sent me out to a Pontiac Buick gmc dealer and I learned so much from gm world class technicians and got paid to do it. I came back for my senior year and I knew more than anyone else just because I did more hands on work than they offered in the program. Fast forward to 2018, I decided to go to Automotive Training Center in Exton Pa for a collision program that also offered mechanical, so I took that as a refresher course. Even being in the industry for 10 years and being highly looked up to as a good technician, I learned a lot more at ATC. UTI on the other hand was just about around the corner and the kids that came out of there just didn’t get it. I know of 2 mechanics that got a good education with them. The rest could hardly change oil and tires. The right trade school is worth the money and you’ll get it all back in return
A great option would be to find a community college that offers manufacturer training. The school I just graduated from has a Toyota training program that incorporates your automotive classes into Toyotas classes, so you’re getting certifications while in school. You get to do a paid internship at a dealership and they also pay for your ASEs. This is the route I went, graduated with an associates degree, ASE master certified, and Toyota expert certified. I also did a state pre apprenticeship in high school which completely payed for college, so I didn’t have to pay a cent. I know good techs can come out of UTI, but paying $40,000 and not even getting an actual associates degree is absurd. But whichever route you take, actual experience and training on the job is essential. My mentor taught me so much valuable information that I still remember and use.
I am currently a uti studen you know i like ibfeel like im learning planning to take Toyota core, but i Also think the way you did it much better un termo of affordability
When I finished my Tech program in 1994 I owed about $2100 dollars for the whole thing. No way would I pay $45,000 thats just crazy.
Gwinnett Tech is also a great school. They’ve been adding more automotive brands programs. They also recently added more shop tools and toolboxes 👍
16k in 2002 for automotive & diesel technology 22 month course in Ohio. Best 16k I ever spent!
I went to UTI 23 years ago and it was about 20k.. Unfortunately mechanics aren't making double now what they made then.. They charge waaay too much.. Honestly they teach you the basic principles but they only way you really learn is by doing it hands on.. Like you said start off at a dealer and they'll send you to training and you'll learn as you go.. After that you can go where ever you want.. But I wouldn't recommend staying at a dealer because they treat you like shit and the benefits suck.. Being a fleet mechanic or finding the right independent shop is less stressful and better long term
20 years wrenching on
I went working as a Lube tech from a dealer.
The shop was a classroom for me
Learning from older techs and training from and going to classes from Napa or other seminars.
I learning by hands on training.
My cousin went to and automotive school and doesn't know half the stuff I do.
Just about any trade school will do you just fine as long as you show up with the right attitude every day. You're still gonna come into a shop not knowing anything, trade school just helps get those connections in order to get you a job. Show up on time every day and be willing to learn, and your teachers will likely put in a good word for you with companies. You don't need to pay tens of thousands for that.
Always take on-job training over trade school if there's a good business offering it, you'll learn so much more that way.
Where I live in Canada, it’s mandatory to begin an apprenticeship to enter the field. Only way of entering the apprenticeship is from going to a local community college for a 1 year program (cost me less than 6k CAD 10 years ago) or by challenging the apprenticeship test for those that were able to prove they’ve been in the industry in the past. Apprentices need to follow a licensed tech for 1500 hours, then they go away for 6-8 weeks of school to become a “2nd year apprentice” and repeat until they become a 4th year. Then after 7500 hours they can write their test and become licensed themselves
Sir, all I want is a tire rotation!
I graduated from the Phoenix UTI in 2011. I did automotive, diesel, and Ford FACT. Finished with a 4.0 GPA, perfect attendance, an associates degree, and about 42k in loan debt. All to start out as a Ford dealer helper for $10/hr. Would I do it again? ehhhh.... You can absolutely learn a lot of great skills at UTI, or just skate by doing the minimum, and that's why it has a bad rep. It's too easy. And it certainly doesn't compensate for experience. I went because I grew up in a rural area I wanted to move away from. Now I live near a city, and tell the younger guys to go to the community college. It all worked out for me, I'm still a mechanic. I work in the collision side, making more money that I ever thought I would in this industry. I just don't know if UTI had anything to do with it. It was fun at least.
I went to a gm school and didn’t cost anywhere near 47k. I am no longer an automotive tech but I am still a mechanic for a high speed stamping and heat treating company. If I didn’t go to an auto school I wouldn’t have been able to get my foot in the door where I am now. I am happy with my choice and would do it over again.
I was trained in a vocational high school and went to additional training at a diesel school. If I was to redo everything I would go to an electrician union and find my way in there. Although I enjoy repairing automotive stuff becoming an electrician is more the way to go. More respected and more opportunity to make money. Less investment in tools.
When you come out of UTI, you're going to start out as a lube tech. When you graduate high school and get your first job in automotive, you're going to start out as a lube tech. Just get an entry level job at a dealership. Factory training is better than any trade school. You might as well get it all for free. Also, most companies have some sort of mentor program. They pair you up with experienced techs, and you work with them all day.
I agree, a lot of great schools out there for a fraction of the price. I went to UTI in 1998/1999 and paid about $14K I think just for the automotive program-no diesel. If I had to do it now in 2023 I wouldn’t do UTI. I don’t know about other trade schools, but I did like after basic automotive training UTI offered specific manufacture training programs like Ford, Toyota, BMW, etc… I was interested in the German cars so I applied for BMW and Mercedes-Mercedes called me back first. I went to Mercedes training for 4 months in Orlando then got to interview with different dealers around the country. Mercedes paid for that training and I got a nice sign on bonus from the dealer I was hired at. Just my 2 cents.
If you've been wrenching on your own for a few years, at least 5 and not professionally, then I feel you don't need it. I spent 4 months there only to realize everything they were going to teach me I had already known. What I learned the most was the intro to electrical classes, those were very informative.
2 1/2 years at a local community college in the PNW. Our advisory board dictates what the courses cover is made by about 20 local companies that hire graduates . Nothing like meeting with millionaires who own companies every quarter. There's a bonus to go to a local to you school.
I went to Ranken Tech in St. Louis it was a 16 month program back then. I graduated in August 2000, cost was $16K 🤔 I’m pretty sure.
Now most every OEM has a dealer sponsored program at Ranken. Afterwords they have to work for that dealer I believe 2 years
I fully agree. As a uti grad in 2002 with a 4.0 gpa. It was 28k back then way overpriced for what I learned. However I do make good money now as a factory tech for vw.
Went to uti in 90s was about 16k auto only was good for me do to taught me basics.For me I started late in high school so it was good. I tell the kids starting now just get in to a shop and act like a sponge. When I got out I applied at all the dealers in my area no one would touch me do to no experience finally got into a tire shop and worked my way up to where I am now level 3 master tech in a dealership.
I actually just finished A&P and yes its expensive. My tuition all in was 51k and afrer financial aid i owe 38k but imo it has a great roi. Especially since so many airlines and companies are at my school all the time hiring straight out no experience other than school. The average pay starting out that ive seen is 30 to 35/hr average with some being higher than that and thatndoesnt include sign on bonuses and alot of comapanie paying for moving. I personally worked on cara for years but grew up around aircraft so it just made sense. But as youvsaid you get what you put in!
It depends on individual. Training is what you put into it not just showing up. Uti is worth it- perfect attendance at 4.0 gpa. They have after grad factory programs. The cost is the same as a new Toyota vehicle. Education vs new car?
Best, trade school learn from your dad or friend or a neighbor. Hands on, and read books that is it.
bucks county tech school here in PA is a public high school which has auto shop in it. I never went but I live near it and have had tours of it. its pretty awesome
You don't need to go to expensive schools just to get the same results that other less expensive schools teach.
Technical colleges school is worth more! It a degree vs a diploma. What hold more value!? Degree. Plus it cheaper too.
i went to UTI really enjoyed it and learned alot imo however will say it was very expensive but for me it was worth it
Is it Possible to do Both
In the early 90's, I went to a regular college, that had an automotive and welding class? Lincoln Tech was like $12K or something crazy like that? Paid $4500 to get the same degree and also a welding and ASE A/C degree? Years later, someone said it was over $20K to go to Lincoln Tech? Got out of school, had to buy tools only making like $8/hr in 1992? Can't be worth it today to do the same?
UTI is expensive for what they offer and other schools offer more hands-on training for the money. Regardless of where you go, tech school just provides basic knowledge and most employers won't care where you went, unless they have negative opinions about specific schools. Experience in the field and willingness to learn is what matters, so you have to set your expectations accordingly when you come out of school with no experience. Any good tech will tell you that they learned a lot their first few years in the field and they never stopped learning. If you think you know everything just because you went to an expensive school, you're in for a rude awakening. I still had a lot to learn after going through vo-tech and graduating from UNOH.
When I went back to UTI in 2006 and took the 1 year program it costs me about 19grand$. I make 46$ an hour now so I guess it was worth my wild.
I think the point Mike is making is that, people like me who went to a small school for a lot less money (although I received full scholarship). Income levels 10 years in aren’t any different. It depends on the individual’s aptitude and attitude more than anything.
@@Ezraroberts686 just adding my experience. The price has about 2.3X since 2006 but so hasn't the starting salary as a tech.I remember oil change places wanting to only pay 7$ an hour nowadays is about 12-14$ start pay for a lubetech. So it's all relative, I came out good out of maybe someone else might make good of it as well.
I wouldn’t recommend going to school. But if ya had to I’d go the community college route. Btw most dealerships will send you to training depending on the dealer.
Go to SIU, in state tuition for out of state students.
Eric O., FRM, Scotty Kilmer (haha) don't need no school. Very sound advice!
Ya... I did ATI, I believe it was something like $30K ? But that was for shop management, I learned some, but not 30K's worth, that's for sure !!
The US Army will train you, pay you, house you and feed you plus health insurance and other benefits. You can also go to college for free while you serve and still have your GI Bill to use when you get out. Your time in the service also counts towards ASE certifications.
Idk how different the Army is but in the marine corps when I served active duty as an aircraft mechanic, you do not get alot of time to go to school while active. we worked 12+ hours most days and worked through alot of weekends. If you can find the time to do online classes, that would be the only way you can go to school while in the military, unless you go inro reserves but then the benefits arent as good.
@@Okami400 So anyone that serves or has served knows damn well that you don’t have the time-you make the time in the military. I think Jocko talks about that as well.
I sacrificed a lot of breakfast/lunch/dinner breaks, free time, sleep, social activities - even studying at work and in the field and taking classes all around the world to include combat zones to make sure I got an education but that’s only because I was serious about it.
“You can keep making excuses or you can start making improvements.” -SGT Reid
@@SGT_Reid like I said online classes would be the only way, thats if you arent in something like aviation where you work well over 12 hours everyday including weekends, we dont get alot of time to eat either, like 5 minutes to scarf that shit down and get back to work. But if you can sacrifice sleep and arent a gym goer im sure you can make time somehow. I dont recomend it since you need to be combat ready at all times but if it works out then more power to you. I cant really argue with success
Not in my opinion. We need more apprenticeships.
Do not I repeat do not waste your money on uti
Go to community college and work at a shop at the same time
Most community colleges you only have to do automotive classes for certification of completion. If you’re willing to take one remedial math and writing course you will get an applied science degree which is worth wayyyyy more than a certificate of completion form uti.
You should also continue and get a bachelors in business management. Easy degree and will
Allow you to move to management when your old and broken.
Man they wanted 68 thousand from me and tbh i would of never gone
All of you who paid for schools... i'm sorry for you. I watched UA-cam university and learned from people at my shops. Now... diagnostic A tech. 😊
my trade school was 500$ a term x3 times haha and now Im a red seal holder go canada
I would have to attend thar school and see what they are teaching
Not worth it anymore. Community colleges are just as good. When i went to UTI my bill was over $15,000. Not bad but now its alot more. Lately my dealership hasn't hired UTI grads, mostly locals in community colleges.
You Got It Mike! I got a job at a dealership, I had Talent and they sent me to school, 4 years later I was at level 4 making 22hr and didn't spend any money! Just gas to get there!
$22 an hour and that's fine by you. In-an-Out Burger here in Phoenix pays $20 an hour to start and cook French fries. Need to make your bar higher.
@@satamanschmidt3428 22 an hour in 1987 was good money!
I did the community college route. It was a good choice for me as our local CC has a well regarded and comprehensive general program. Of course, this was 20 years ago.
Would love to talk to you about the programme that is run here in Ireland 4-5 year apprenticeship that is regulated by the state
Without any auto experience and family support for a young person coming 19. 20 21 you’re fucked especially if those locations aren’t in your home town. They actually charge more for out of towners. Ask someone who knows. Back in 06’ 07’ they advertised like crazy on tv back then and duked alot of suckas. Some things in life you can’t pay for it’s earned. There’s no short cuts. UA-camrs and tiktok auto folks get more recognition and paid more we’re in a different time. I don’t see a piece of paper describing a bad ass. If those few members making content are bad ass they probably still would be bad ass starting community college or anywhere wanted bad enough and there’s thousands of auto mechanics youtube everyday getting inspired and inspiring others
but what if i get out of the army and i have the GI bill? then UTI would be good for me right? because i dont have to pay for it
I would hire someone from UTI.
Avoid UTIs at all cost. I know a few elderly folk that have ended up in hospital due to these Urinary Tract Infections!
What about a school like Penn Foster?
Any good schools in the Raleigh, Nc?
Wyo tech can’t get no love??? O wait it closed. Ok then we will go with UTI.
47K? I guess I continue herding goats.
UTI is like the Harvard of Auto tech trade school
Thats why its so expensive your paying for a brand
name product. But the bigger question is what is the ROI
Return on investment.
Urinary trac infection lol lol
the point is you don't have to spend lots of money to be a good tech!
SEND US SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK ON CARS, HELL, SEND US SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK PERIOD.....LOL
I graduated in 1988 from UTI... no it's not... Read a book and go to work
Unfortunately, I went to my local community college and it was a waste of time and money. I knew everything that they pretty much Tommy change one tire in your tire technician.😂
So, it took five minutes to answer the question and the answer was NO! That was simple.
They are charging me 50k for automotive should I bite?
Not worth it at all, I have heard that it hurts when you pee. 0/10. Do not recommend.
I recently went to GM training for diesel since its now a requirement, I literally learned nothing. I had better luck watching Adept Ape.
47, 000 dollars? 😂
No
Not worth it
Nope
I wouldn’t recommend this school for nobody
I’m not disputing your statements. I just have a problem with how repetitive you are. You only need to say something once, not fifteen times.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. We need more opinions. Very helpful.