A Closer Look at Pouring Structures with the April Brewer | Coffee with April

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @alexanderreznikov8112
    @alexanderreznikov8112 Рік тому +15

    It used to be 30circle/70center, then 50/50 in some videos and now it's 60/40. Does it depend on coffee (or filter?), or do you think that 60/40 is the best in general?

    • @DanGizzi
      @DanGizzi Рік тому +3

      I think 30/70 is the standard for the slower draining coffees but for some faster ones you can increase the circle pour part to slow it down a bit.

    • @dunevideoaccount
      @dunevideoaccount Рік тому

      I think the video explained that the goal is total saturation. I was asking myself using the April method previously, so this video was perfect for me.

  • @LeVitrail
    @LeVitrail Рік тому +9

    your 30 circle/70 center method is so good,I use it everyday and don't bother with other recipes anymore!

  • @dunevideoaccount
    @dunevideoaccount Рік тому +3

    I really like the top view. I was missing that from the other videos. I'd love to see either by weight or by visual what is left in the grounds at the end of extraction.

  • @luisfernandezdecordoba5938
    @luisfernandezdecordoba5938 Рік тому +2

    Loved the up close shot, thanks 👍

  • @persianwingman
    @persianwingman Рік тому +2

    Does rinsing the paper filter make any difference? I can’t remember the last time I did it and I’ve never tasted paper in my cup.

    • @Raditram
      @Raditram Рік тому +1

      Depends on the paper. From my own experience the Kalita 185 needs a lot of rinsing as it has a very strong paper flavor. In my case I noticed the paper flavor has a scent similar to fake floral aroma but with a hint of cardboard (nojoke). But some like v60 papers are generally clean.

    • @iggywow
      @iggywow Рік тому +1

      If you just want to see if the paper has a taste just do a control cup of water and another one with water you used to rinse the paper. Whether or not you taste it in a cup of coffee is something different. It just make me feel better knowing there’s really nothing more than the water/coffee giving off flavour

  • @CWunderA
    @CWunderA Рік тому +6

    To summarize:
    12g / 200ml
    60g circle, 40g center within 10 sec
    Wait till 35 sec total time
    60g circle, 40g center
    Target brew time: 2+ min (2-3?)

    • @MrTimitus
      @MrTimitus Рік тому

      I think 45sec?

    • @impaque
      @impaque Рік тому

      Thanks. Didn't understand what he was saying in the video.

  • @dan138zig
    @dan138zig Рік тому +4

    Why do I always get underextracted taste with this method? The grind size is already medium. Should I just grind finer?

    • @Sunlives
      @Sunlives Рік тому +2

      Yeah, why don't you?

  • @SA0MS9O1N2
    @SA0MS9O1N2 Рік тому +1

    What if I brew 400ml, can the same approach be used here but just 200ml/200ml?

    • @dylanbeschoner
      @dylanbeschoner Рік тому +1

      They discuss different volumes in this video.
      ua-cam.com/video/X-fXQKqkYxI/v-deo.htmlsi=z83yTWxLbXpstRt6
      They definitely wouldn't recommend 200 and 200.
      I think for 400 g brews you should do three pours. 100g/100g/200g with the last 50g of each pour being a center pour

  • @royvangroningen3025
    @royvangroningen3025 Рік тому

    Is the TDS that you are looking for with 13g coffee still 1.25 - 1.35?

  • @johnpearson7815
    @johnpearson7815 Рік тому

    Hey Patrik, thanks for another great video - are you still at 9 for this recipe on the 078? Cheers!

  • @CWunderA
    @CWunderA Рік тому +1

    What temperature water do you recommend?

    • @coffeewithapril
      @coffeewithapril  Рік тому +3

      We are often between 89 - 93c depending on the coffee.

  • @taylorwhite3636
    @taylorwhite3636 Рік тому

    im curious about the kalita wave style filter - specifically the ridges. i wonder if there is any way to improve the bypass pattern that is seen with this sort of filter. for example maybe making them very shallow ridges - maybe that would promote more flow through the center of the bed? or adding small matching ridges to the brewer, sort of like origami?

  • @zhunliu318
    @zhunliu318 2 місяці тому

    it's pretty hard to wet everything with just 30g circle pour though, any tips or tricks?

    • @coffeewithapril
      @coffeewithapril  2 місяці тому

      It sure is, but the aim is too wet everything with that 100g, within 10 seconds. The "centre pour" is used to look for any dryspots and pour where needed.

  • @edwincartagena1560
    @edwincartagena1560 Рік тому +1

    Any suggestions on grind settings on a Comandante?

    • @AdrianRuBM
      @AdrianRuBM Рік тому

      On a C40 mk4 you could try from 21 to 24, 23 clicks usually give me a tds of around 1.27 - 1.30 (depending on the coffee, time between pours and pouring patterns) with a total brew time of around 2:35, tell me how it goes!

    • @edwincartagena1560
      @edwincartagena1560 Рік тому +1

      @@AdrianRuBM thanks for the info, I was brewing my coffee at a 25 setting, I just wanted to see if there were other settings and to see if there were any differences. Thanks again!

  • @p4vl262
    @p4vl262 2 місяці тому

    Hi Patrik,
    How should the coffee bed look like before the second pour - is there still some water left or has it gone through completely?
    Thanks

    • @coffeewithapril
      @coffeewithapril  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for watching. It would still be some water left in the filter.

    • @p4vl262
      @p4vl262 2 місяці тому

      @@coffeewithaprilthanks for the quick reply, appreciate it

  • @claytonrocks93
    @claytonrocks93 Рік тому

    Thank you Patrik!

  • @thwifty
    @thwifty Рік тому +11

    The crucial aspect to note is that for the second pour, the water must be poured onto the filter. Otherwise, the 3-minute mark cannot be achieved unless the grind size is extremely fine, which is not within the recommended range of C40 26-34 clicks. This is a significant detail that Patrik has not mentioned for years. I am unsure if he has omitted it intentionally, but it seems peculiar to me as it appears he does not want people to replicate his recipe by withholding this information.

    • @radagascar1
      @radagascar1 Рік тому +1

      I always figured it was the specific April filters that slowed the brew down. I just can't get this recipe to produce a decent cup. Maybe my V1 glass brewer is janky, idk.

    • @Sunlives
      @Sunlives Рік тому +8

      WTF? He only poured one "ring" of water in the very beginning of the second pour to clean off the filter walls. Other than that the second pour like the first pour follows his typical way of pouring. You shouldn't post BS if you are unable to watch a simple video.

    • @timgerber5563
      @timgerber5563 Рік тому +1

      While I agree that with many coffees it’s really hard to achieve the desired brew time with the recommended comandante click range, I don’t think it’s that pouring onto the paper has that much of an effect. I think it’s multiple factors at play: freshness of coffee, different water, variety and process, and even things like the MK4 needing 1-2 clicks less than the MK3.
      Personally, I found two things to be helpful to slow the brew down:
      1. I use between 23-25 clicks on the MK4.
      2. I put a puck screen under the paper filter. For whatever reason this provides a bit of extra resistance and also prevents the paper filter from sagging through where there is no plastic holding the filter.

    • @iggywow
      @iggywow Рік тому +6

      This is some absurd conspiracy haha, a lot plays into just a simple brew. Maybe just the recommended range is not suiter for whatever you’re doing

    • @adamnollygetgood5545
      @adamnollygetgood5545 Рік тому

      It really is key to getting that drawdown time. The April filters tend to run faster than Kalita filters, which makes the wall pour even more crucial

  • @jamescarter5657
    @jamescarter5657 Рік тому +1

    I've tried this dripper the latest ceramic version, but find it very inconsistent, first of all it's difficult to fit the paper filter into the brewer correctly when you rinse so that it's perfectly level and more than a half of my brews stall even with a P100/EK.

    • @dylanbeschoner
      @dylanbeschoner Рік тому

      Interesting. I never get stalling. In fact I struggle to get a brew time more than 1 min 40

    • @jamescarter5657
      @jamescarter5657 Рік тому +1

      @@dylanbeschoner I think it depends on the pouring technique, I found that when you avoid circle pours on or close to the paper filter it flows much faster, but then extraction is really low, but either way, it's really difficult for me to get consistent results

    • @dylanbeschoner
      @dylanbeschoner Рік тому

      @@jamescarter5657 understood and appreciated. I am just using a fellow ode gen 1.
      Using their pouring techniques I get consistent drawdowns. If you're targeting a higher extraction or not using April coffee, your mileage will obviously vary.
      Have you tried splitting the first 100 g into two circle pours? I often do 12-13 g of coffee:
      40 g circle pour
      Wait 20 seconds
      60g circle pour
      Wait 20 seconds
      100g pour (60 circle/40 center)
      I like the results and don't get stalling ever.
      This is what I do when I want to shoot for higher extractions. Otherwise, like I said before the dripper gives me quick drawdowns
      I've had better results using April's own coffee and the coffee from Passenger out of Pennsylvania USA

    • @jamescarter5657
      @jamescarter5657 Рік тому +1

      @@dylanbeschoner Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try

    • @dylanbeschoner
      @dylanbeschoner Рік тому

      @@jamescarter5657 let me know what you think. In general I find that more pours and more coarse grinds can help you get the extractions you want without stalling