Young Rener Gracie destroys soldiers with SOLID & BASIC Judo
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- This video discusses Rener Gracie's grappling techniques.
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I first rolled with Rener Gracie in 1998. He was a 15-year-old orange belt and I was an in-shape, 37-year-old blue belt. He was already quite tall but almost painfully thin. He wanted to start with me in his guard and I soon found out why. He put both hands on his belt, kept them there the whole time, and absolutely trashed me the entire roll.
Piffffttt, why not start standing
Depends on who your training partners are. If they don't have the experience for it, the risk of injury is higher than the advantage of realism. I had already tried challenging Gracie students standing up and realized that the odds of keeping the fight standing were not in my favor. It's why I was wearing the blue belt awarded to me by Rener's father instead of one of the two black belts I had already earned more than a decade earlier. @@devriestown
Chadi you're about to have you comment section filled with Gracie Kool-Aid drinkers proclaiming the Gracie's invent all forms of wrestling, grappling and even the ground that walk on.
Jiu jitsu is the son of a single mother who got rich and famous, the judo is the absent father looking for his son after 60 years missing.
@@hddh5917lolol, and then there's Sumo and Japanese Jujutsu. The grandfathers that are mostly forgotten but still cheerished by some people for their deeds in the old wars
@@jestfullgremblim8002 sumo is 100% legit, hundreds of federations around the world, legit fighters, legit schools, like any other martial art, way different from kosen judô, or newaza judo. But the judô community cant admit that, they are cynical just like that absent father hahahahah
I always see comments like yours on Chadi videos, but I never see the comments that you are referring to.
@@vids595 there’s a plethora of videos online or in comments sections with people proclaiming that the Gracies invented every technique and the closed guard them selves. Judoka also do this with Judo, other than the triangle choke - nearly all the techniques were inherited from traditional JuJutsu (the same applies to BJJ - all of it comes from Judo, which comes from traditional JuJutsu).
Hey Chadi! My preferred term instead of basics is fundamentals. Like Matt Thornton said “fundamentals aren’t what’s most basic they’re what’s most important”
True, in any subject matter, if you know the fundamentals you can always judge if an advanced idea is real or not. If it does not obey the fundamental rules, it’s not solid
I have been doing bjj since 1993 and I will have to say basics basics basic is what wins street fights. I have lots of techniques but really use and teach 50.
I wonder how many of your techniques overlap with gracie combatives 36 I believe
@@kylefee4822 I would say about 20 of them with small adjustments for striking and not using the gi but focusing on under hooks and top positions.
Thanks Chadi for this video.
So it is interesting to see the revolution of martial arts will become Brazilian Juijitsu so soon before his success we know today. And why ground fighting still important in close fighting.
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Master the fundamentals, master the art.
Oh, these comments are gonna be crazy. Rener Gracie doing Judo. Absurd 😂
What it's called doesn't matter except in cases of trademark infringement. I once heard Rorion Gracie say "Without Judo there would be no Gracie Jiu-jitsu." That admission makes them neither the same thing nor two different things. In any case, they are usually trained differently and that is why the result is so seldom the same. Train for your goal. My particular goal is to be able to defend myself, so my training includes responding to strikes and many other common "street" attacks in all possible positions. This also includes wrestling techniques, head butts, slams, eye gouging, biting, and a variety of unorthodox and "dirty" fighting. Be ready for what you expect and then recall the quote by Heraclitus: "If you do not expect the unexpected, you will not find it, for it is not to be reached by search or trail.”
@@MrMZaccone I knew it was coming. You should write a book. Your reply was a the least one page 😂
Oh, it's coming. I'm just not part of it. It is what it is - law of identity. I don't give a F**K what it's called, I just think it's silly that anyone else does. My reply was what? Try English next time.@@KingOfSwords720
@@KingOfSwords720if youbknew it was coming then why did you say such a thing, your comment is the absurd thing lol
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Thank you sir, you've proved my point. Keep em coming 😂
The gracies took the Newaza to the next level Buttscoot- Jutsu.
😂😂😂
It seems that strikes were allowed. If yes, that's why he only used basics - striking being allowed tends to make people realize the importance of basics.
The other reason is that the soldiers probably weren't highly trained grapplers. Using a techniques that's too advanced against a newbie can actually be less effective IME.
Whenever we implemented strikes into our Jiu-Jitsu, the sub I frequently got on the big guys was the triangle from guard - and I prefer to play a top heavy game.
Where is the ref? Doesn't look like a judo match to me.
I would love to see Rener and Roger spar
I'm grateful to Gracies because nobody cared about Newaza before they and their students had shown the power of Newaza in a brutal one on one.
That is not true in the least.
@@TheCCBoi He doesn't know about Kosen. It never amazes me how people make uneducated statements 😂
How big is Kosen Judo vs the UFC?
@@ThePimpedOutPlatypus Who cares? You've got your priorities mixed up. The UFC is not an art, and it's a shadow of it's former self when the Gracie's started it. Anybody can be a fighter with no formal training. They don't even represent individual arts anymore. It nothing more than the present WWE. The guys get the hell beat out of the them, and they aren't even paid right
@andreilukyanov4286 you should do some research into Kosen Judo. tldr its basically when Judoka Tsunetane Oda (and a couple of his friends too) came together and expanded upon Newaza of Kodokan Judo , basically doing what the Gracies did but in Japan.
Check this video out, it's Oda practicing Kosen Judo in the early 1900s (There was no way the Gracies taught them this): ua-cam.com/video/yxcAhrd4lJM/v-deo.html
Pls research the imperial Japanese art of Jukenjutsu (predecessor of Jukendo) used by the imperial Japanese military before WW2 (not to be mistaken with Kenjutsu and Kendo).
Old military Kendo was DEADLY!!!
ua-cam.com/video/O41cqvNGeU8/v-deo.html
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Excellent work. Very educational
Chadi can you please do more videos on the foundation of Newaza
Looks like jujitsu to me.
Really appreciate the balance you have brought into your breakdowns of Jiu Jitsu over the years. Amazing to see the Gracie’s alongside these great Japanese masters, and the wonderful explanations of the history of these techniques we all love no matter what grappling style we train.
I appreciate it
I don't know what the rules where with those soldiers but it looked like there was multiple opportunities for them to ankle lock Rener.
I’d wager they didn’t know how
We're any of those troops trained in wrestling or did he just beat up a bunch of untrained troops? Its not hard to beat up an untrained soldier using BJJ, especially if that soldier is in some type of job such as administrative assistant. Its really no different than beating up a civilian that is into fitness.
Probably not. They probably just got a bunch of guys with a high PT score and had them go.
@@badart3204 Man, the combat systems in the military ain't shit without weapons.
Sup chadi
Who wins is all determined by the best trickery allowed by the rules. Bjj rules, ijf rules, ufc rules, boxing rules, it does not matter because in any real fight a simple ameri-do-te ball squash technique will end it in one second.