There is a difference between a perfect recording and the best recording. Sometimes the best recording is the one where you can feel like you’re listening to a person and not a machine.
This is why we fuck with you Pat, cuz you keep it real. People don't understand how hard it is to truly be dedicated to an artform, and you're an incredible example of not only a passionate artist, but also a successful working musician. Keep being you dawg
Raw and authentic. Your expressions are so welcome here, man. What you say is really meaningful and as an aspiring horn player it’s so good to hear. Thank you and Bring it on!
Definitely needed this, I used to get so caught up in playing perfect that the anxiety would KILL my performance, just came down to the realization that not every solo is perfect, not every improvisation is going to sound the best.
No apology is ever necessary for being passionate about your calling. You bring great joy and beauty into the world, whether it's always "perfect" or not- and we need that, especially now. Always, but especially now. Thank you for your honesty.
What IS "necessary"? Nothing really.. 😅 Man, thank you so much for sharing, I totally agree with you.. and just so you know, if you didn't already, you are.. you are doing it.. you are influencing lots of people and also waking up "lost souls" like mine.. to hear you play is such an inspiration and pleasure!! Please, keep it up, every "mistake" is sooooo much worth it!! 🎉
I’ve always had this thing where i dont push myself when performing because i’m afraid that what i’m doing won’t be appreciated by the people listening. What you’ve said in this video has helped me so much. Thank you and i look forward to your two albums
Thanks for sharing. I often find myself enjoying live recordings, and especially in person live music more because it's more raw. If it's too polished it loses that quality
bartley is one of the best of all time in my opinion, i love the way he expresses his self during his solos like tea for two and after youve gone, patrick can straight up take what i wish i could play and he plays it, like ive been trying to learn easy to love by cannon ball for like 3 months and he did it in 1 hour i mean like, patrick you may not think you play perfect but fo sho i love your playing and its so clean and its just like cannonballs.
Don’t be sorry. Perfectionism is an enemy of discovery sometimes. I needed to hear this, as a moonlighter (got my crappy day-job, feel tired) and wondering if what I play matters- it matters to me when I jam with people. I LIKE IT. Fundamentals open the door but, yeah, I feel this. It’s outlets. It’s freedom. Thank you for sharing.
I always admired your work with a PASSION, Pat, i love your authenticity, i love your energy, i love the VIBE you bring to the table, i love the passion and the SENTIMENT you put on every fucking DAMN NOTE, whenever i catch you live i stay BECAUSE of that, i don't care about listening to perfect studio recording version of the same songs?? I already got that on spotify, i want that FEELING when i tune into your stream, i want the raw, unfiltered PASSION you exude with every song, i want the FUN you're having while playing, i admire that, and i'm all about it. Thank you for your excellent self, Pat.
The beautiful thing about music is that it is completely open. Musicians decide for themselves what direction to take . One can explore new sounds and techniques, or playing with ultimate precision and timing, plunging deep into theory, or just finding a singular approach and trying to make it work in a wide variety of contexts. I am just a mediocre guitarist playing in my little studio with a jot of tools and toys. I don't play out a lot so I can do whatever pleases me. When I play with other people and in front of people of course I need too fit and there is beauty in that discipline too. The ultimate for me would be playing with a group of like minded musi Ian's whose company I enjoy and having a venue to share it with people and having enough money to feed, clothe and house myself, but that is just a beautiful dream.
I love your approach and mindset! You gotta live on the edge and push yourself, even if it risks “mistakes”. I am nowhere near your level, but I also feel the music, and I will not relegate myself to play “safe” all the time - yeah I also remain committed to honing my skills and craft to the next level, just as you obviously are. I guess that’s why I immediately connected with you and your music the first time I heard you over a year ago! “Perfect”ly safe, who needs it. I’ll leave that to the Top-40 computerized music.
No need to apologize!! I'm a visual artist and I really relate to your way of thinking, maybe that's why I love jazz so much. Thanks for putting your thoughts out there! As artists its equally important to make art and also talk about it so people can connect and learn the purpose. This year I became a big fan of your music and I'm happy to find your personal account and hear what you have to say and make. When I draw and work I usually have your J-Music or your live set videos playing. I love your energy and passion. 🧡 I adore your work and support what you do!
Im coment 70 and a new follower ive never heard about you before but you got me hooked you inspire me and im a perfectionist, i like what kind of person you are and your view on life you are a good person and thank you you made me happy:)
It's great to practice imperfectionism. No one is perfect. you don't have to be perfect, and that's ok. A lot of people don't understand that. Keep up what you're doing!
Been learning guitar for about a year now as my first instrument and even though I hardly have time to practice (Engineering major), I just like to play the guitar and listen to its sounds, even if I hardly have any grasp of music theory. 1:50 is *literally* what I say to myself in my mind word for word. "It's not that deep", "I like it". I'm just a learning musician who likes to hear the sounds of a guitar. I've been looking at other musicians on UA-cam, and I sometimes get discouraged when I see Jacob Collier talk about music theory with this super deep, super profound understanding, or Barry Harris with all his wisdom in music, and while one day I hope I might understand music close to that level, at the end of the day I'm not gonna gaslight myself into thinking that that is the only way to appreciate music. I like playing guitar... because I like it. It's not too deep. I don't need to be a music wizard to like playing the guitar, so in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy music at my own pace, even if it might take many more years to learn in comparison to a music major for example.
Nah this video was 100% necessary bro. I needed to hear this to kick me back out of this rut and get back to expressing to say something more than expressing to be heard
yeah those feelings pop up every once in a while especially for the youthful cats, dont pay too much into it because it's a bottomless pit that will pass with age bro, just dont get caught up in the meantime. thanks for sharing. I think you made this video to express what most of us deal with from time to time as the top young and hot musicians. Thanks again.
thank you for doing what you do Patrick. I am a soft player and I could never ever play like u (skill issue XD) but you inspire me in so many ways regardless
Don't be sorry you said how it is . As good as other Sax blogs are they make it sound so hard to be a musician. Your just brought the enjoyment back in the conversation. Good on you Bro
man you’re real as fuck tho. It’s your playing that lifted my self esteem immensely. Playing so raw and open, not being afraid to sound raw and untraditional. Pushed me to a new level man. i feel like a lot of people say the imperfection is the music, but still subconsciously don’t change there few on sounding “traditional” or “perfect”. You, man, you made me FEEL it. For real
I like your ideas, your music; that inspires me. Honesty in making music, that inspires me too. We all tend to perfection, try to reach our best of ourself, however imperfection makes us human. And I like humans almost as I like music.
Love this! I find myself taking 15-20 takes for auditions and I honestly didn’t even think about why the first is the most real recording of myself. Thanks Pat! ❤
Hey, Patrick ! I really like your playing ! Just discovered it that song Witherspoon Emmet Cohen. :all of you", a beautiful song . And now this vidéo. I can feel what You're talking about ! You're so right.
Passion and feedom of expression 💯. I Love your real talk videos. Lot of cats out there not expressing their ideas only regurgitating the ideas of others or not playing with any passion just robotic notes, technique on 100 passion on 0.
For playing perfect sounds theres software, the joy of jazz is the human element in it. The small mistakes, hickups or miscomunication between players is a story a part of the character of a take its a part of what i listen for!
Yup. I felt that. Very well communicated. In my opinion, everything you said needed to be said. I felt every word. Tbh I’m at that point too. Amen my brother 🙏 🎉❤ 🎼
There’s something about musicians that makes them desire to be perfectionists. I’ve been studying music for 2 years now and every time I shed, I think I sound terrible, even when I play the notes correctly. My teachers tell me I play good but I still don’t think that about myself. Whenever I screw up on some notes or pieces, I think to myself “Maybe I should quit music.” Why tf do musicians hate themselves and think they’re terrible, WHEN EVERYONE TELLS THEM THAT THEY ARE NOT?!
Hi Pat, It is a great message. Playing to be authentic is more I. Important than being perfect. I can just think about the recording of Giant Steps on which Tommy Flanagan had some difficulties during the recording and this was the final take anyway. There was something on it that was better than other recordings. I think authentic is more important than perfect. Thanks for. Reminding us about it..
4:09 This video was very necessary. It's cathartic to hear someone play without holding back. "Perfect" playing can have its place, but I think it's oversaturated musical circles for too long. I want to be able to play the way I feel.
A bit of a tangent but Snoop Dogg said for musical longevity, you must sound like yourself 'Once you be you, who can be you but you?' Pat, you definitely sound like you and it sounds perfect 😊
Man just as you said it, if you feel like playing something just do it, no shame, the same with this video if you feel like saying something just do it dont apologize, its great to hear your thoughts.
Disorganized video getting an equally disorganized comment response lol. Something that I noticed is that when I originally listened to "Moon" by Perfume right before your JME cover, I wasn't exactly the biggest fan of the song. Don't get me wrong, I liked it a fair bit, it just wasn't the type of music that I normally dig. But when I went to listen to your cover of it, something about the sheer passion of your (and the other member's) playing made me GET it. Like, that passion made me understand not only the original song better, but why you all love it so much, even if I can't really articulate why. idk maybe I speaking bullshit but her it is lmao. you're still a massive inspiration to me peace
Sorry 'bout what though? This is a perfect example of vulnarability done right. It's a valid point you're making. You're talking about the purity and spontaniety of music here as well as catharsis, instead of just analyzing and drilling everything into a pulp. It's literally called playing for a reason, as far as I'm concerned
Trying to play perfectly can stifle exploration and experimentation. Try to find even one of the legendary (live) solos in which every single note is played perfectly.
I think a lot of the chase for perfection comes from the internet. 50 years ago, if you go for something wild and fall flat on your face, nobody would know outside of that club. Maybe someone's buddies if they have a video camera. Nowadays, if you go for something wild and fall flat, you're one unlucky audience member away from winding up on the latest cringe compilation. That's not a fear you can afford to have as a musician, you can't fear your audience, but it's an understandable one with the world we live in I think.
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There is a difference between a perfect recording and the best recording. Sometimes the best recording is the one where you can feel like you’re listening to a person and not a machine.
This is why we fuck with you Pat, cuz you keep it real. People don't understand how hard it is to truly be dedicated to an artform, and you're an incredible example of not only a passionate artist, but also a successful working musician. Keep being you dawg
No way you fucked Pat.
Raw and authentic. Your expressions are so welcome here, man. What you say is really meaningful and as an aspiring horn player it’s so good to hear. Thank you and Bring it on!
I was feeling really nervous for rehearsals and then watched this and felt better, thanks dude.
I actually think there's a lot of value to what you are saying. Thank you for sharing!
Definitely needed this, I used to get so caught up in playing perfect that the anxiety would KILL my performance, just came down to the realization that not every solo is perfect, not every improvisation is going to sound the best.
No apology is ever necessary for being passionate about your calling. You bring great joy and beauty into the world, whether it's always "perfect" or not- and we need that, especially now. Always, but especially now. Thank you for your honesty.
Says it all, you inspire all of us
What IS "necessary"? Nothing really.. 😅 Man, thank you so much for sharing, I totally agree with you.. and just so you know, if you didn't already, you are.. you are doing it.. you are influencing lots of people and also waking up "lost souls" like mine.. to hear you play is such an inspiration and pleasure!! Please, keep it up, every "mistake" is sooooo much worth it!! 🎉
I’ve always had this thing where i dont push myself when performing because i’m afraid that what i’m doing won’t be appreciated by the people listening. What you’ve said in this video has helped me so much. Thank you and i look forward to your two albums
Thanks for sharing. I often find myself enjoying live recordings, and especially in person live music more because it's more raw. If it's too polished it loses that quality
You mean, you like to be more of an artist than a performer... Woooo! Now I know why I was so hooked on that solo from "After You've Gone".
bartley is one of the best of all time in my opinion, i love the way he expresses his self during his solos like tea for two and after youve gone, patrick can straight up take what i wish i could play and he plays it, like ive been trying to learn easy to love by cannon ball for like 3 months and he did it in 1 hour i mean like, patrick you may not think you play perfect but fo sho i love your playing and its so clean and its just like cannonballs.
Don’t be sorry. Perfectionism is an enemy of discovery sometimes. I needed to hear this, as a moonlighter (got my crappy day-job, feel tired) and wondering if what I play matters- it matters to me when I jam with people. I LIKE IT. Fundamentals open the door but, yeah, I feel this. It’s outlets. It’s freedom. Thank you for sharing.
I always admired your work with a PASSION, Pat, i love your authenticity, i love your energy, i love the VIBE you bring to the table, i love the passion and the SENTIMENT you put on every fucking DAMN NOTE, whenever i catch you live i stay BECAUSE of that, i don't care about listening to perfect studio recording version of the same songs?? I already got that on spotify, i want that FEELING when i tune into your stream, i want the raw, unfiltered PASSION you exude with every song, i want the FUN you're having while playing, i admire that, and i'm all about it. Thank you for your excellent self, Pat.
Much love, Patrick - thanks for always being your authentic self in your music and everything you share on here!
The beautiful thing about music is that it is completely open. Musicians decide for themselves what direction to take . One can explore new sounds and techniques, or playing with ultimate precision and timing, plunging deep into theory, or just finding a singular approach and trying to make it work in a wide variety of contexts. I am just a mediocre guitarist playing in my little studio with a jot of tools and toys. I don't play out a lot so I can do whatever pleases me. When I play with other people and in front of people of course I need too fit and there is beauty in that discipline too. The ultimate for me would be playing with a group of like minded musi Ian's whose company I enjoy and having a venue to share it with people and having enough money to feed, clothe and house myself, but that is just a beautiful dream.
I love your approach and mindset! You gotta live on the edge and push yourself, even if it risks “mistakes”. I am nowhere near your level, but I also feel the music, and I will not relegate myself to play “safe” all the time - yeah I also remain committed to honing my skills and craft to the next level, just as you obviously are. I guess that’s why I immediately connected with you and your music the first time I heard you over a year ago! “Perfect”ly safe, who needs it. I’ll leave that to the Top-40 computerized music.
No need to apologize!! I'm a visual artist and I really relate to your way of thinking, maybe that's why I love jazz so much. Thanks for putting your thoughts out there! As artists its equally important to make art and also talk about it so people can connect and learn the purpose. This year I became a big fan of your music and I'm happy to find your personal account and hear what you have to say and make. When I draw and work I usually have your J-Music or your live set videos playing. I love your energy and passion. 🧡 I adore your work and support what you do!
I’m sharing this with my high school students in jazz class tomorrow morning. Thanks for the words of wisdom, Pat!
Im coment 70 and a new follower ive never heard about you before but you got me hooked you inspire me and im a perfectionist, i like what kind of person you are and your view on life you are a good person and thank you you made me happy:)
It's great to practice imperfectionism. No one is perfect. you don't have to be perfect, and that's ok. A lot of people don't understand that. Keep up what you're doing!
I for one fucking love the squeal you do in the Simple and Clean cover, it makes me cry, it's so real.
Thank you! This is so authentic and absolutely clear. Love your music for the same reason. It’s authentic to my ears. 🙏🙏
Been learning guitar for about a year now as my first instrument and even though I hardly have time to practice (Engineering major), I just like to play the guitar and listen to its sounds, even if I hardly have any grasp of music theory. 1:50 is *literally* what I say to myself in my mind word for word. "It's not that deep", "I like it". I'm just a learning musician who likes to hear the sounds of a guitar.
I've been looking at other musicians on UA-cam, and I sometimes get discouraged when I see Jacob Collier talk about music theory with this super deep, super profound understanding, or Barry Harris with all his wisdom in music, and while one day I hope I might understand music close to that level, at the end of the day I'm not gonna gaslight myself into thinking that that is the only way to appreciate music. I like playing guitar... because I like it. It's not too deep. I don't need to be a music wizard to like playing the guitar, so in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy music at my own pace, even if it might take many more years to learn in comparison to a music major for example.
Nah this video was 100% necessary bro. I needed to hear this to kick me back out of this rut and get back to expressing to say something more than expressing to be heard
yeah those feelings pop up every once in a while especially for the youthful cats,
dont pay too much into it because it's a bottomless pit that will pass with age bro, just dont get caught up in the meantime.
thanks for sharing.
I think you made this video to express what most of us deal with from time to time as the top young and hot musicians.
Thanks again.
thank you for doing what you do Patrick. I am a soft player and I could never ever play like u (skill issue XD) but you inspire me in so many ways regardless
Don't be sorry you said how it is . As good as other Sax blogs are they make it sound so hard to be a musician. Your just brought the enjoyment back in the conversation. Good on you Bro
Thank you for this Patrick ☺️🙏
man you’re real as fuck tho. It’s your playing that lifted my self esteem immensely. Playing so raw and open, not being afraid to sound raw and untraditional. Pushed me to a new level man. i feel like a lot of people say the imperfection is the music, but still subconsciously don’t change there few on sounding “traditional” or “perfect”. You, man, you made me FEEL it. For real
fuck yes - keep doing this dude. we need more ppl approaching music like that. feels good to hear this tbh
I like your ideas, your music; that inspires me. Honesty in making music, that inspires me too. We all tend to perfection, try to reach our best of ourself, however imperfection makes us human. And I like humans almost as I like music.
You always leave me in awe with you’re work Patrick such a big fan keep on doing ya thing bro no one is perfect
Love this! I find myself taking 15-20 takes for auditions and I honestly didn’t even think about why the first is the most real recording of myself. Thanks Pat! ❤
Hey, Patrick !
I really like your playing ! Just discovered it that song Witherspoon Emmet Cohen. :all of you", a beautiful song . And now this vidéo. I can feel what You're talking about ! You're so right.
Passion and feedom of expression 💯. I Love your real talk videos. Lot of cats out there not expressing their ideas only regurgitating the ideas of others or not playing with any passion just robotic notes, technique on 100 passion on 0.
Knowing a few high level studio guys in LA, they live by the FIRST TAKE mantra because the FEEL is always better mistakes be damned.
I am glad to see this, my take is having fun is the best the vibe you can transfer in your music
don't worry, nobody is perfect and the journey is way more intresting:) Keep em commin
This is what I needed to hear
For playing perfect sounds theres software, the joy of jazz is the human element in it. The small mistakes, hickups or miscomunication between players is a story a part of the character of a take its a part of what i listen for!
Thank you, Patrick 🙏🏾
Yup. I felt that. Very well communicated. In my opinion, everything you said needed to be said. I felt every word. Tbh I’m at that point too. Amen my brother 🙏 🎉❤ 🎼
Brilliant advice, thanks for sharing 😃
There’s something about musicians that makes them desire to be perfectionists. I’ve been studying music for 2 years now and every time I shed, I think I sound terrible, even when I play the notes correctly. My teachers tell me I play good but I still don’t think that about myself. Whenever I screw up on some notes or pieces, I think to myself “Maybe I should quit music.”
Why tf do musicians hate themselves and think they’re terrible, WHEN EVERYONE TELLS THEM THAT THEY ARE NOT?!
That's Right. Thank you so much!
Inspiring and uplifting, thank you bro
Thank you for making this video. I appreciate it.
Thank you man, this makes me feel more confident
Wunderbar! Danke! From Germany
Hi Pat, It is a great message. Playing to be authentic is more I. Important than being perfect. I can just think about the recording of Giant Steps on which Tommy Flanagan had some difficulties during the recording and this was the final take anyway. There was something on it that was better than other recordings. I think authentic is more important than perfect. Thanks for. Reminding us about it..
4:09 This video was very necessary. It's cathartic to hear someone play without holding back. "Perfect" playing can have its place, but I think it's oversaturated musical circles for too long. I want to be able to play the way I feel.
A bit of a tangent but Snoop Dogg said for musical longevity, you must sound like yourself 'Once you be you, who can be you but you?' Pat, you definitely sound like you and it sounds perfect 😊
Needed this today man!
Man just as you said it, if you feel like playing something just do it, no shame, the same with this video if you feel like saying something just do it dont apologize, its great to hear your thoughts.
Disorganized video getting an equally disorganized comment response lol.
Something that I noticed is that when I originally listened to "Moon" by Perfume right before your JME cover, I wasn't exactly the biggest fan of the song. Don't get me wrong, I liked it a fair bit, it just wasn't the type of music that I normally dig. But when I went to listen to your cover of it, something about the sheer passion of your (and the other member's) playing made me GET it. Like, that passion made me understand not only the original song better, but why you all love it so much, even if I can't really articulate why.
idk maybe I speaking bullshit but her it is lmao.
you're still a massive inspiration to me
peace
Yup I had same thing with Moon. I listen to it now and it conjures in my mind the awesome vibes of the new J-Ensemble rocking to it with such love.
also like no need for a sorry, dude your feelings are always welcome
Honored fir your genuine sharing sir.
Sorry 'bout what though? This is a perfect example of vulnarability done right. It's a valid point you're making. You're talking about the purity and spontaniety of music here as well as catharsis, instead of just analyzing and drilling everything into a pulp. It's literally called playing for a reason, as far as I'm concerned
No risk no glory when it comes to playing!!!
Love this ranting off the chest kinda thing. I get it man. You dont have to be perfect to have something to say or something good to add.
This video was totally the opposite of unnecessary 🫡🫡🫡
On point as always
Well said. Agree.
Love it thank you! ❤
I’m glad you made this video
thanks for this post. real talk.
If it dont feel LIVE, I dont want it !!! 🤷♀
Following this rant, Bartley was replaced by AI software which had been trained to mimic imperfection... perfectly
LETS GO PAT!!!!!
I need to know what all the chord permutations are, as well as all the modes that go over them ... can't belive I dont even know it yet ...
this was a word bro 🤎
👏👏WE NEED 👏👏SOME OF THAT👏👏
love this!
Duo partner and I almost ALWAYS use 1st takes and just edit in the studio... Silent Way style
Well said.
Inspiring ❤
Trying to play perfectly can stifle exploration and experimentation. Try to find even one of the legendary (live) solos in which every single note is played perfectly.
💯
Sooooooooo true
good video
❤
Hell yes 👍
This video was necessary
I think a lot of the chase for perfection comes from the internet. 50 years ago, if you go for something wild and fall flat on your face, nobody would know outside of that club. Maybe someone's buddies if they have a video camera. Nowadays, if you go for something wild and fall flat, you're one unlucky audience member away from winding up on the latest cringe compilation. That's not a fear you can afford to have as a musician, you can't fear your audience, but it's an understandable one with the world we live in I think.
real