J. S. Bach’s Secrets Revealed: Inventio IX in F minor

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  • Composer Samuel Andreyev presents an analysis of J. S. Bach’s Inventio n° IX in F minor.
    00:00 Introduction
    00:53 2-part counterpoint: definition
    01:29 Invertible counterpoint: definition
    03:22 Performance of the piece
    05:18 Rhythmic complementarity
    06:52 Analysis of right hand motif
    09:20 Analysis of left hand motif
    10:22 Contrary motion: definition
    10:50 Expressive use of augmented 2nd
    11:13 Analysis of bars 5-8
    13:27 Analysis of bars 9-16
    14:49 Spacing of voices
    15:58 How Bach modulates
    16:28 Analysis of bars 17-28
    18:25 Harmonic analysis of bars 25-28
    18:50 Binary form: definition
    20:00 Analysis of bars 29-34
    21:09 Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @coleb.t.6905
    @coleb.t.6905 Рік тому +96

    Babe wake up, Samuel Andreyev posted an analysis

  • @FighterFred
    @FighterFred 18 днів тому

    The real miracle to me is how someone can take such simple melodies and combine them into something out of this world. While at the same time speaking to your inner soul at a fundamental level. The 3-voice Sinfonia 9 following this piece is one of the best that Bach wrote, it's beyond description.

  • @jimshaw899
    @jimshaw899 Рік тому +12

    You illustrate why I can enjoy Bach without any ability whatsoever to understand his genius. I'm just not wired for it. Thanks for the exposition.

  • @supviewer
    @supviewer Рік тому +9

    I don't care if the piano is tuned correctly or if the invention is played on harpsichord or not. The essence here is the depth of the analysis. He doesn't mention only what Bach did (that's something that an AI can also do pretty well) but he investigates the reasons behind each compositional choice. Well done!

  • @SamuelJFord
    @SamuelJFord Рік тому +14

    Great video, quite a beautiful piece.
    A relative bought me the sheet music of Bach's 2 part inventions for Christmas. An excellent gift because, while I love Bach, I had not heard any of the 2 part inventions before so they were a perfect way of improving my sight reading.
    Before I let myself watch this video I had a go at playing the hands seperately. No chance in hell I'm sight reading them together yet!

  • @Pretzels722
    @Pretzels722 Рік тому +16

    Sight reading “average” lesser-known baroque composers really puts in perspective how great Bach is. His mastery in counterpoint is second to none.

    • @bela6604
      @bela6604 Рік тому

      do you have suggestions for the latter? im trying to improve my sight reading and it wouldn't hurt getting to know some baroque🙏

    • @simballine
      @simballine Рік тому +6

      @@bela6604 Try some Jean-Philippe Rameau (Dover has a complete edition). I find that most of it fits under the hands well and is easily approachable. In addition, there are a few more technical pieces and a lot of interesting ideas.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +13

      @@simballine Rameau is far from an average or lesser-known composer. His Traité de de l’harmonie had a decisive and lasting influence, and his Pièces de clavecin are widely-performed.

    • @AlessandroSistiMusic
      @AlessandroSistiMusic Рік тому +1

      ​​@@bela6604 You mean some more "normal" music in 18th century style? Try Fischer's "Musikalischer Parnassus". Handel is of course very skilled as a composer, but his keyboard works tend to be more harmonically transparent than Bach's.

    • @simboels9324
      @simboels9324 Місяць тому +1

      @@bela6604 Joseph-Hector Fiocco also comes to mind.

  • @denise2169
    @denise2169 Рік тому +3

    What a great analysis! Bach’s music, even the 2-part Inventions, is incredibly beautiful, and yet so complex!
    Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your knowledge with us!

  • @GeoffLiMusic
    @GeoffLiMusic Рік тому +5

    Greatly appreciate how thorough your analysis was. I'd been meaning to get into Bach and study his works more, and this was a great introduction.

  • @m.walther6434
    @m.walther6434 Рік тому +3

    Great analysis, thank You very much, looking forward to more of this. Way to go, only 6 more Invention, maybe next year.

  • @petershoop5317
    @petershoop5317 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the detailed analysis; more detail to dig into and understand than other videos on the piece. Took a minute to find it in the UA-cam search after watching the first time. Subscribed. Thanks again. 👍

  • @leedufour
    @leedufour Рік тому +2

    Thanks Samuel!

  • @joaquinrojas7157
    @joaquinrojas7157 Рік тому

    Amazing, thank you very much Samuel!
    All the best!

  • @ethanchilton2345
    @ethanchilton2345 Рік тому +4

    Big fan of these analyses great work :)

  • @user-uo8yh9tb8g
    @user-uo8yh9tb8g Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the upload, I admire what you do very much, so keep up the great work

  • @insight827
    @insight827 Рік тому +8

    Wonderful analysis as always. Looking forward to the Beethoven quartets, if you decide to do them!

  • @user-cq3qb6es9h
    @user-cq3qb6es9h Рік тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @timbruer7318
    @timbruer7318 Рік тому +3

    Very enjoyable and well explained.

  • @dariocaporuscio8701
    @dariocaporuscio8701 Рік тому +4

    Speaking about baroque, 2 voices compositions, have you heard W.F. Bach’s 6 duets for 2 flutes? A very unusual collection, I recommend especially the lamentabile from the n4 in F major and the vivace from the n1 in e minor. They really sound from another planet!

  • @winterdesert1
    @winterdesert1 Рік тому +3

    What is it called when baroque composers take a musical idea/motif and crawl up or down the scale with it? It repeats, but it climbs up or down the key. It's so beautiful, and I wonder what that is called.

  • @tomlabooks3263
    @tomlabooks3263 5 місяців тому

    Excellent!!

  • @lainarte
    @lainarte Рік тому +2

    Great analysis! Thank you so much for the great videos you post, have you ever considered making a video on Helmut Eder? Maybe his Drei Satze

  • @user-nz8vo8re7u
    @user-nz8vo8re7u 5 місяців тому

    Thank you! I have been practicing the inventions recently and this video matched my needs exactly 😊

  • @witneyskye5556
    @witneyskye5556 11 місяців тому

    I'm new to your channel and will be visiting frequently! Thank you for the inspiration. I wish you had been my professor in university. Music theory/composition comes to life when it is explained with clarity and enthusiasm. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talents. I will be sure to tell my other musician friends about your channel. 🎵🎶🎵🎶p.s. I learned of you while watching a Jordan Peterson video.

  • @gcummings88
    @gcummings88 Рік тому +3

    So grateful for your Bach videos. He held the most delicate things in the firmest grasp.

  • @Tylervrooman
    @Tylervrooman Рік тому +1

    Also, congratulations on 50k.

  • @videosdehistoriadelamusica4484

    Terrific video, Samuel‼ Your channel is a great contribution to music education! Thank you for your explanation of this remarkable piece! Your analysis of the grouping structures of the measures was very enlightening! I was hoping to hear also your take on the remarkable consecutive fifths of bar 25... maybe for your next video! 😄

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +2

      Thank you!!! So glad you enjoyed it. I must admit I didn't notice the consecutive fifths.. good ear ;)

    • @videosdehistoriadelamusica4484
      @videosdehistoriadelamusica4484 Рік тому +1

      @@samuel_andreyev Good eyesight, rather, hehe... They are quite well hidden!

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 8 місяців тому

    Merci.

  • @chrismusic4613
    @chrismusic4613 6 місяців тому

    Interesting. Would love to get your analysis of Bachs solo violin partitas. Incredible feat to keep things interesting with a steady flurry of constant sixteenth notes.

  • @ericfrederickson2692
    @ericfrederickson2692 Рік тому

    Hi Samuel, I love your Bach videos! One suggestion: when you were demonstrating the RH's opening line in the piece, you always elongated that first 16th note, which I find unpleasant; it's a personal matter of course, but I feel that rhythmic blurring of that sort has no place in Bach: the music shines with greater clarity in the absence of such nuances (I learned this the hard way as a pianist!). Thank you for the analysis :)

  • @Wolfgang1782
    @Wolfgang1782 Рік тому +1

    Sorry if you mentioned this though I couldn’t watch the full presentation. The most interesting feature of this piece to me is the obbligato interpretation of the trill on the raised 7th (written as 16th notes). I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen the same thing elsewhere in the Bach ouevre. In addition another trill is written as an actual trill in the same piece.

  • @zombieraddish
    @zombieraddish Рік тому +1

    In case no one's said it yet, amazing thumbnail

  • @rubenmolino1480
    @rubenmolino1480 Рік тому +1

    excelent ¡¡

  • @truBador2
    @truBador2 Рік тому

    Analyze the Three Part Invention in Fm. It is Bach's genius distilled.

  • @greg55666
    @greg55666 Рік тому

    Hi Samuel, is there any reason you like/chose this invention in particular as opposed to any other one? (8, 13, 14 are my favorites). Does this one do something special, or better, or is it just a personal favorite?

  • @christophedevos3760
    @christophedevos3760 Рік тому

    Everything in counterpoint revolves around the third, that nifty 'passe partout'.

  • @callscreenerpaul6636
    @callscreenerpaul6636 Рік тому +2

    When I was a composition student I always shocked my professors by admitting that I understood that Bach was a musicologist's wet dream, that his stuff was incredibly complicated, but I just felt nothing from it.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +6

      Maybe you never heard a truly first rate performance..?

    • @callscreenerpaul6636
      @callscreenerpaul6636 Рік тому +2

      @@samuel_andreyev You may very well be right, and I'm certainly not saying that his work isn't genius. It is. I'm just saying that it doesn't speak to me.
      For example, when I was in college studying viola my professor would hand me Telemann when I wanted to play Carter and Hindemith. Just some music spoke to me and others didn't.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul Рік тому +2

      I'm certainly not going to assume anything about your psychology based purely on that anecdote...

    • @rayancharafeddine4982
      @rayancharafeddine4982 Рік тому

      @@samuel_andreyev I find a lot of Bach even sounds good on midi, so I guess its just affinity

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +2

      🤮 now you're going too far

  • @arnoldhemsley9317
    @arnoldhemsley9317 4 місяці тому

    Have you done the A minor 13 invention ? It will be helpful if not.

  • @DangerRussDayZ6533
    @DangerRussDayZ6533 9 місяців тому

    The performance could really use some more dynamics if I'm being honest. You really hammered the hell out of it.

    • @mercoid
      @mercoid 4 місяці тому

      When played for the purpose of illustrating the bones of the piece to an amateur/layman audience, I think he took the right approach. This is not a performance.

  • @adude9882
    @adude9882 Рік тому

    Did you ever consider how we year a series of tones as a 'voice'?

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +1

      It's not just a series of tones, it's also a phrase, a rhythm, an articulation, a register.

  • @ludwigamadeushaydn706
    @ludwigamadeushaydn706 Рік тому +2

    "Blink if Bach is holding you hostage"

  • @caseydahl1952
    @caseydahl1952 Рік тому +1

    did you watch Tár?

  • @wadejnelson
    @wadejnelson Рік тому +1

    Soli Deo Gloria

  • @jacksonelmore6227
    @jacksonelmore6227 9 місяців тому

    Whenever I write counterpoint I run into a problem of analyzing it after I write it
    I’ll listen to it, and it’ll be fire 🔥
    But I’ll analyze the chords made, and it’s as if everything just keeps going from tonic notes to subdominant notes in the same bar whenever a melody note changes
    Basically, my own diatonic voice leading pisses me off, I want to use chromaticism in a romantic way but keep the voices more independent
    How do I transcend diatonic counterpoint

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  9 місяців тому

      Maybe have a look at Hindemith's book, The Craft of Musical Composition. Good luck.

  • @brynbstn
    @brynbstn Рік тому

    You demonstrate Bach’s genius in composition but what makes this music so moving for you, do artistically great? What if you had to explain that without doing an analysis?

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +1

      try explaining the sensation of looking up at the night sky -- same problem

    • @brynbstn
      @brynbstn Рік тому

      @@samuel_andreyev Could try to bring in aesthetic concepts in your vids. You don’t hear about them much , with Bach.

  • @manuelgonzales6483
    @manuelgonzales6483 8 місяців тому

    "...one does not dissect gossamer..." 🙀

  • @r1p2m32
    @r1p2m32 Рік тому

    So, everyone obviously likes this. Where are compositions like this from greatest stars like Madonna, Bieber, Rappers? I'd buy the music tomorrow.

  • @RMPdude
    @RMPdude 2 місяці тому

    Nice video overall but the word "invention" is misspelled.

  • @pietersmal5903
    @pietersmal5903 Рік тому +8

    I love your accurate pronunciation of "Bach"! But, it's a pity "Johann Sebastian" didn't make the German cut!

    • @genesises
      @genesises Рік тому +1

      people who mark words are annoying 🤣

  • @stevehinnenkamp5625
    @stevehinnenkamp5625 Рік тому

    The listener who is moved needs no explanation.

  • @wernerretief4569
    @wernerretief4569 Рік тому

    Why don't you write us an invention yourself. Looking forward to it.

  • @herrickinman9303
    @herrickinman9303 Місяць тому +1

    He plays like he's drunk.

  • @stevehinnenkamp5625
    @stevehinnenkamp5625 Рік тому +1

    Played very correctly. That's it! Now make it poignant.

  • @phpn99
    @phpn99 Рік тому +1

    Sam, you need to tune the unisons on your piano. Yikes ! It shouldn't take you more than 15-20 minutes and it's dead easy if one of the three strings is properly tuned.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +19

      I know. Help me afford a piano tuner! www.patreon.com/samuelandreyev

    • @christophedevos3760
      @christophedevos3760 Рік тому

      @@samuel_andreyev they've gotten expensive, haven't they? ☹️

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +1

      quite, in Strasbourg anyway.. like 200€ or more!

    • @christophedevos3760
      @christophedevos3760 Рік тому

      @@samuel_andreyev really? 😳That surprises me. Well, then I'm better off in Flanders, 70 euro. But quite a time ago.But maybe better to buy a harpsichord then and tune it yourself. 😊

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +4

      yes, or a clavichord!

  • @kamikaki1914
    @kamikaki1914 Рік тому +4

    Bach on piano… My ears are bleeding, suffering is endless and whole day ruined

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +29

      Contribute to my harpsichord fund! www.patreon.com/samuelandreyev

    • @torterrakart7249
      @torterrakart7249 Рік тому +16

      @@samuel_andreyev Smooth

    • @pinkfloydhomer
      @pinkfloydhomer Рік тому +9

      @kamikami Reading nonsense like yours is endless suffering. Bach encouraged playing music on many different instruments and experimenting with instrumentation. He would have loved the modern piano. Bach's music is abstract and works on all instruments.

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 Рік тому +1

      I think this piece would sound best on clavichord and played a little more seamlessly.
      It's true Bach's music can be easily adapted and he did so himself many times. But it's also true that the character of the instrument influences the composer.

    • @denise2169
      @denise2169 Рік тому

      Kamikaki,I’m sorry you feel like that!
      I’m lucky that I love playing and hearing Bach works on the piano! I’ve played some of the Inventions and the Italian Concerto on harpsichord, which was fun, but the piano gives more depth of colour and nuance!

  • @yvesjeaurond4937
    @yvesjeaurond4937 Рік тому

    I don't like being negative, but you banged/slammed every key in your performance.... ?!? No rythmic impetus.... Sorry... Uneven (16th) notes in the examples 6 mins. And you spoke for five minutes before playing a note... ? Good luck with your project.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому +7

      If you feel like you can do it better, I encourage you to make your own video!

    • @denise2169
      @denise2169 Рік тому +3

      Yves, I have analysed many of of Bach’s clavier inventions and fugues, and I find Samuel’s analysis to be clear and well-presented, helping listeners understand and better appreciate the complexity of Bach’s music. We should be grateful that scholars like Samuel take time to share their wisdom!
      Thank you, Samuel!

    • @ajames283
      @ajames283 Місяць тому

      Ok. Not the point of video

  • @westbethkid
    @westbethkid Рік тому

    Whenever I listen to Bach, even without know any of the analysis, I feel like I'm getting smarter. Just following the patterns seems to sharpen my brain...

  • @johnryskamp2943
    @johnryskamp2943 Рік тому +2

    Music is dead.

  • @FilipSandecomposer
    @FilipSandecomposer Рік тому +1

    A really great presenttation! Thank you for this video on the mastership of Bach!