As a huge HD fan I don’t agree. If he hated it then yeah, if he loved it then absolutely, but laboring a MEH seems more like brow-beating than just critical analysis.
Phenomenal album about learning to love yourself. Idk why people keep putting this “irony”/“critique” narrative on her. Some of us just like bubblegum pop aesthetics & femininity!
well... it is fantastic but he made a very different point; you will like it if you aren't trying to find a very new flavour of hyperpop(just like me!)
That's not what he said, he didn't say it was bad, he said that the sound of this album feels outdated now that this branch of pop has existed for years now
@@duckyduke954The sound was always "dated," Hannah Diamond's music was always looking back referencing branches pop that already existed for decades. Moreover by the time Reflections came out Hannah Diamond herself had been making music like that for nearly a decade. Imo Hannah Diamond's originality was never the sell; it's recontextualization not invention. I interpret it more like treating pop like a form of folk, utilizing familiar sonic language to express something. It's a great album, but of course it doesn't revolutionize pop forever in the same way PC music had before or something. I think putting that expectation on it is kinda unfair and misses the point.
@@P3dotme you're completely missing the point. Fantano is aware that it's re-contextualizing older music. His point is that doing that is not as unique as it once was. You have acts like 100 gecs pushing that idea to its limits, so in comparison it's not as groundbreaking. The re-context was the invention, and people have done it better by now. That's the point.
@@98loud Hannah Diamond isn't 100 gecs and she never was. If you want to listen to 100 gecs... listen to 100 gecs, not somebody else? They aren't trying to accomplish the same thing. Not that the new 100 gecs album is somehow sonically groundbreaking either. But my point is that the 'groundbreaking' nature of Hannah Diamond's seems incidental to me, like it never felt to me like the point was 'pushing an idea to its limits;' that feels like an external imposition. I don't understand why these criticisms couldn't've applied to most of her discography. Seems like meeting the music from a fantasy, rather than meeting it where its at. Like if you're looking for the experience of finding something for the first time by following an artist that's been refining their craft and sound for a decade, that's beyond a fools errand.
I would have to argue In comparison to her last record, the song writing is much more focused and the production allows her sound to flourish. It’s a cut above Reflections in my opinion and one of the better pop records to come out in 2023
By focusing too much on what you think Hannah Diamond music SHOULD be, you just missed the catchiest hooks of the year and one of the cleanest and most pristine pop production since Charli (2019). This album is full of bangers.
I think I understand the sentiment. Many of the things found here you can kind of find elsewhere, some of us are kind of used to it, but I must say, Perfect Picture is still loads of fun to listen to, every time. It's so uplifting and powerful, it's got a kind of energy that I don't see a lot in current music. They try, but it usually doesn't hit *just right* like this album does. So yeah, the elements this album uses are things we're kind of familiar with, but it combines them in a way that is unique on its own, and manages to keep a distinctive feeling all the way.
I loved this album. This album is what you would have gotten if Charli XCX was pure at heart. Speaking of which, I sense that Charli's about to make her first ever Worst Tracks entry this week.
using ai generated music as a means to judge how fresh the sound of this album is, is quite cringe. there’s no push for painters to adapt how creative their art is because “ai can paint now”, since there’s a human element involved and that alone makes the painting inherently more personal and appealing. this same mindset should be applied to music, dont let ai disrupt the impressiveness of a human mind developing these ideas. from a critical standpoint, the creativity and hands on elements alone should keep the argument of ai music competing out of the picture.
"bahh AI bad" lol you heard Ai and went red with rage I guess, he was saying that the artificial post-humanism and synthetic sound of the album don't sound all that unique after the emergence of AI music. Literally because this genre is meant to be corporate and soul less. But yesah I guess let's pretend like this sound has never happened before because bahh ai bad
Honestly for what it is. It’s a pretty great, clean sounding hyper girly pop album. I thought it was great and absolutely gave what it was trying to give.
Some people like raw veggies. Some people want to have them cooked up with some seasoning and fat. People who love Hannah Diamond love raw veggies. She’s serving raw bubblegum pop with no appeal to mainstream pop by excluding hip hop and rock elements. With the glistening sound of PC Music and the legendary David Gamson producing I feel like this is the Japanese Gifting Fruit version of raw bubblegum pop. Those are like the $1500 Watermelon Radishes you see sometimes. Perfect Picture is gonna rival Yeule and Caroline for my AOTY.
She's a lyrical genius. Her character sings such naive lines, that feel like a gut punch when I'm paying attention to the undertones. You said, let's kiss, I said, nothing, Maybe, I should, Have said, something,
I actually really liked this album. I feel like the story telling was consistent throughout. I think the way she played into being a robot or someone who is not real really lent itself to a sound that could sound a little dated at this point.
@@MarkSide_ummmm hate to be the bearer of bad news but now that PC Music’s sound has bled over into mainstream pop they’re not gonna be releasing any new music, just reissues…
@@zackmatteson125 oh yeah I knew that already but I’m wondering what’s going happen to all the artist on the label I’m guessing this is Hannah Diamonds farewell album, she won’t be doing music anymore, idk. Also the artists like HYD and Caro,Astra King I’m guessing they’re just going fade away.
It does struggle to stand out amongst other albums but it definitely still has it’s bangers. 10 year old me would have loved the FUCK out of Poster Girl
I'm actually growing to like this one more than Reflections. It's not as adventurous perhaps but it's a really solid record overall. There's not a single bad track.
HD is the goat stfu, :'''') she already outlived charli, i could agree that perfect picture only almost lives up to reflections, but its a masterpiece still. u kinda critisise what i believe is the whole point about her music, as u say its not as over processed as most futuristic post human pop is, and that is the whole thing, its still this post human emo stuff but then its very easy to listen to at the same time and that is quite magic! i think in 10-20-100 years we rather looking back on the HD records than even pop2, both HD records is simply flawless in a way that few of her "competitors" are. i only grew tired of a single song from both 2 HD records (affirmations, sorry, its just too much :'')) while as a huuuge pop2 fanatic myself, there's only like 3-4 songs on the whole record where i'm not skipping a part or fully cant stand the song anymore. HD is very very refined post human pop, which comes of as boring compared to typical post human, but this is what i believe will make her more of a niche evergreen artist, basicly i'm trynna say its timeless :)))
also lets be honest here, Paradise is the best Charli song ever, and theres a good reason for it, i havent listened to charli's charli record u mention in at least over a year now, that one was pretty mediocre comparing to vroom vroom and pop2, and i havent even got through a full listen of crash still to this day
Doesn’t feel original? She was the pioneer of PC music. To give artificial sounds a soul and emotion. She is literally the blueprint and the origin. AI music pales in comparison to what Hannah creates
theneedledrop Thoughts on (any of) the following albums melon? -YG, Tyga - Hit Me When U Leave The Klub: The Playlist -Kool Keith - Mr. Controller -Rapsody - GOATED: Rapsody -Bad Bunny - nadie sabe lo que va a pasar mañana -Troye Sivan - Something To Give Each Other -Gucci Mane - Breath of Fresh Air
I feel like youre jumping into the wordy explanation too fast, on shorts we did not read a title or have any kind of preparation, we just scrolled straight in. I think these will be more successful if you put a little colour into it with sound and an easily digestible intro
Think I'm the only one here who agrees. I only recently discovered Hannah and thought Reflections was really cool and a very interesting pop-favored spin on the hyperpop that had been coning out at that time. But aside from the singles (really just Perfect Picture and Affirmations), I just didn't find this album all that interesting.
This album feels like a robot learning how to love. It's great.
No that’s V:D:C
@@capnblackjack4 that's just a creep learning how to love ❤️😁 great album tho
this album deserved a full review even if u didn’t love it
As a huge HD fan I don’t agree. If he hated it then yeah, if he loved it then absolutely, but laboring a MEH seems more like brow-beating than just critical analysis.
Phenomenal album about learning to love yourself. Idk why people keep putting this “irony”/“critique” narrative on her. Some of us just like bubblegum pop aesthetics & femininity!
You're too late melon, I already formed an opinion (it's a 10)
Nah, you're wrong on this one, Anthony. This album is fantastic
well... it is fantastic but he made a very different point; you will like it if you aren't trying to find a very new flavour of hyperpop(just like me!)
That's not what he said, he didn't say it was bad, he said that the sound of this album feels outdated now that this branch of pop has existed for years now
@@duckyduke954The sound was always "dated," Hannah Diamond's music was always looking back referencing branches pop that already existed for decades. Moreover by the time Reflections came out Hannah Diamond herself had been making music like that for nearly a decade.
Imo Hannah Diamond's originality was never the sell; it's recontextualization not invention. I interpret it more like treating pop like a form of folk, utilizing familiar sonic language to express something.
It's a great album, but of course it doesn't revolutionize pop forever in the same way PC music had before or something. I think putting that expectation on it is kinda unfair and misses the point.
@@P3dotme you're completely missing the point. Fantano is aware that it's re-contextualizing older music. His point is that doing that is not as unique as it once was. You have acts like 100 gecs pushing that idea to its limits, so in comparison it's not as groundbreaking.
The re-context was the invention, and people have done it better by now. That's the point.
@@98loud Hannah Diamond isn't 100 gecs and she never was. If you want to listen to 100 gecs... listen to 100 gecs, not somebody else? They aren't trying to accomplish the same thing. Not that the new 100 gecs album is somehow sonically groundbreaking either.
But my point is that the 'groundbreaking' nature of Hannah Diamond's seems incidental to me, like it never felt to me like the point was 'pushing an idea to its limits;' that feels like an external imposition. I don't understand why these criticisms couldn't've applied to most of her discography. Seems like meeting the music from a fantasy, rather than meeting it where its at. Like if you're looking for the experience of finding something for the first time by following an artist that's been refining their craft and sound for a decade, that's beyond a fools errand.
I would have to argue In comparison to her last record, the song writing is much more focused and the production allows her sound to flourish. It’s a cut above Reflections in my opinion and one of the better pop records to come out in 2023
picture perfect, poster girl, no fx, and lip sync are so good
And Affirmations!
:( So no full review
yup, and it hurts
Dorian Electra when?
istg if he skips on fanfare....
Was wondering the same thing!
@@flomoyoHe said on Twitter it will come and that he's sorry for the delay
By focusing too much on what you think Hannah Diamond music SHOULD be, you just missed the catchiest hooks of the year and one of the cleanest and most pristine pop production since Charli (2019). This album is full of bangers.
Best pop album of 2023 for me
I need to give this one another spin, I wasn't too amazed by it the first time around. Reflections is still one of the better albums of 2019 tho.
I think I understand the sentiment. Many of the things found here you can kind of find elsewhere, some of us are kind of used to it, but I must say, Perfect Picture is still loads of fun to listen to, every time. It's so uplifting and powerful, it's got a kind of energy that I don't see a lot in current music. They try, but it usually doesn't hit *just right* like this album does. So yeah, the elements this album uses are things we're kind of familiar with, but it combines them in a way that is unique on its own, and manages to keep a distinctive feeling all the way.
I loved this album. This album is what you would have gotten if Charli XCX was pure at heart. Speaking of which, I sense that Charli's about to make her first ever Worst Tracks entry this week.
Yeah charli’s lowkey been on the downswing lately idk what’s up with that
Charli has always been garbage...
yessss, crash is so forgettable, i cant name a single song, :'''''(
using ai generated music as a means to judge how fresh the sound of this album is, is quite cringe. there’s no push for painters to adapt how creative their art is because “ai can paint now”, since there’s a human element involved and that alone makes the painting inherently more personal and appealing. this same mindset should be applied to music, dont let ai disrupt the impressiveness of a human mind developing these ideas. from a critical standpoint, the creativity and hands on elements alone should keep the argument of ai music competing out of the picture.
I strongly agree I don’t even know why he had to point it out
I don't think that was really his point
"bahh AI bad"
lol you heard Ai and went red with rage I guess, he was saying that the artificial post-humanism and synthetic sound of the album don't sound all that unique after the emergence of AI music. Literally because this genre is meant to be corporate and soul less.
But yesah I guess let's pretend like this sound has never happened before because bahh ai bad
@@98loud did u even read my comment dawg
@@98loud shut up AI shill lmfao
Honestly for what it is. It’s a pretty great, clean sounding hyper girly pop album. I thought it was great and absolutely gave what it was trying to give.
New JMSN album
I feel you
You're so wrong for this one
Even if you didn't love it the last ever PC Music record by a pioneer of the genre deserved a full review 😢
Some people like raw veggies. Some people want to have them cooked up with some seasoning and fat. People who love Hannah Diamond love raw veggies. She’s serving raw bubblegum pop with no appeal to mainstream pop by excluding hip hop and rock elements. With the glistening sound of PC Music and the legendary David Gamson producing I feel like this is the Japanese Gifting Fruit version of raw bubblegum pop. Those are like the $1500 Watermelon Radishes you see sometimes. Perfect Picture is gonna rival Yeule and Caroline for my AOTY.
I luh hur
@walterthecatt
She's a lyrical genius. Her character sings such naive lines, that feel like a gut punch when I'm paying attention to the undertones.
You said, let's kiss,
I said, nothing,
Maybe, I should,
Have said, something,
I actually really liked this album. I feel like the story telling was consistent throughout. I think the way she played into being a robot or someone who is not real really lent itself to a sound that could sound a little dated at this point.
rip pc music man wtf
I wonder whats the next big thing is going to be.
@@MarkSide_ummmm hate to be the bearer of bad news but now that PC Music’s sound has bled over into mainstream pop they’re not gonna be releasing any new music, just reissues…
@@zackmatteson125 oh yeah I knew that already but I’m wondering what’s going happen to all the artist on the label I’m guessing this is Hannah Diamonds farewell album, she won’t be doing music anymore, idk. Also the artists like HYD and Caro,Astra King I’m guessing they’re just going fade away.
It does struggle to stand out amongst other albums but it definitely still has it’s bangers. 10 year old me would have loved the FUCK out of Poster Girl
I'm actually growing to like this one more than Reflections. It's not as adventurous perhaps but it's a really solid record overall. There's not a single bad track.
SHORT REVIEW FOR HELMLOCKE SPRINGS EP PLEASE
ai generated script
Got em
This review made me sad
HD is the goat stfu, :'''') she already outlived charli, i could agree that perfect picture only almost lives up to reflections, but its a masterpiece still. u kinda critisise what i believe is the whole point about her music, as u say its not as over processed as most futuristic post human pop is, and that is the whole thing, its still this post human emo stuff but then its very easy to listen to at the same time and that is quite magic! i think in 10-20-100 years we rather looking back on the HD records than even pop2, both HD records is simply flawless in a way that few of her "competitors" are. i only grew tired of a single song from both 2 HD records (affirmations, sorry, its just too much :'')) while as a huuuge pop2 fanatic myself, there's only like 3-4 songs on the whole record where i'm not skipping a part or fully cant stand the song anymore. HD is very very refined post human pop, which comes of as boring compared to typical post human, but this is what i believe will make her more of a niche evergreen artist, basicly i'm trynna say its timeless :)))
also lets be honest here, Paradise is the best Charli song ever, and theres a good reason for it, i havent listened to charli's charli record u mention in at least over a year now, that one was pretty mediocre comparing to vroom vroom and pop2, and i havent even got through a full listen of crash still to this day
review the new dorian electra and troye sivan!
So sad, PC Music stick a fork in you... ya done! 2013-2023. I Also thought this HD album was great though 💎💎👍
Doesn’t feel original? She was the pioneer of PC music. To give artificial sounds a soul and emotion. She is literally the blueprint and the origin. AI music pales in comparison to what Hannah creates
That doesn't mean everything you make is magically original by association lol
How dare you
the singles were all amazing imo but the filler tracks kinda lost me. lip sync is a fun feel-good song as well
Bruh
theneedledrop Thoughts on (any of) the following albums melon?
-YG, Tyga - Hit Me When U Leave The Klub: The Playlist
-Kool Keith - Mr. Controller
-Rapsody - GOATED: Rapsody
-Bad Bunny - nadie sabe lo que va a pasar mañana
-Troye Sivan - Something To Give Each Other
-Gucci Mane - Breath of Fresh Air
Nice mid you got there
Im killing myself 🖐
L take, it's for the girlies with Double Dickgree in Cummunication and Pussy Design
I feel like youre jumping into the wordy explanation too fast, on shorts we did not read a title or have any kind of preparation, we just scrolled straight in. I think these will be more successful if you put a little colour into it with sound and an easily digestible intro
Boooooo albums a strong 9 to a 10
Think I'm the only one here who agrees. I only recently discovered Hannah and thought Reflections was really cool and a very interesting pop-favored spin on the hyperpop that had been coning out at that time. But aside from the singles (really just Perfect Picture and Affirmations), I just didn't find this album all that interesting.
hell naw
Go touch grass
Plz full Troye Sivan review
troye sivan when ?