Heard Rudy Fugle say this morning on SiriusXM that he thought it was a different compound than the spring race. Said the spring tire was more oily when you touched it
Daytime in March and night in September are a little different on the tires. Cliff Daniels said it was laying rubber so grip was gonna be higher and there would overall be less tire wear
@@pandaexpress7326 They did a Bristol tire test in July and everyone there said the tire started coming apart the exact same way it did in the Spring. I'm not surprised that the teams made adjustments so it wouldn't be as bad but the tire really didn't fall off at all. Rudy Fugle said he thinks this tire would have ran the entire 500 laps which is absurd
Because they had support series this time laying down rubber. They pressure washed the track so I’m guess it shredded the tires as it was a completely clean surface
The high downforce and low horse power are the problems. If the straightaway speeds and corner speeds continue to stay so close, passing will be at a minimum. More horse power would increase the need to slow down more to make the corners. More horse power would burn up the rear tires more quickly.
I live an hour from Bristol and have been going to races there for over 20 years with my family. It's without question Bristol isn't anything like it used to be, and it's not just rose-tinted glasses either. The nextgen car didn't help I'm sure.
The next gen isn’t bad looking but I hate it currently.. rip the diffuser off, 1000 hp, smaller brakes, and softer tires. Playoff system sucks. Go back to the chase at the very least. And I hate stage cautions.. at minimum remove the stage 1 yellow. I hate modern nascar tbh
Pave the corners back at Bristol and get rid of the progressive banking. Reduce the tire width and get rid of the low profile tire. This will fix 90% of this car's problem. Get rid of the under body shield and the defuser. Raise the cars back up and let teams do their own shock package. This car is nothing but a glorified racing kart . What amazes me is during the tire wars both hoosier and good year came with the softest tire possible. So soft that tires were blistering and blowing out but goodyear can't make a softer tire now ? They can easily but its not good years problem to fix nascar's new car. Good year is not competing against anyone else so why would they risk building too soft of a tire and having the drivers get out and bad mouth them. This car is nothing but a kit car. You put it together like a model. Putting the wrong bolt in the wrong place can cost you 100 grand.
@@collinclary5762 no kidding. I'd like to know how many races he has been to, how much merch he's bought, how many driver meet and greets, etc. but he'd lie his ass off. Bunch of whiny old heads.
I like being able to see the SMT Data but I don't think other teams should be able to see other team's SMT Data...lol The data should be proprietary information for each team...imo How individual teams read and apply their own data is what separates good teams from great teams and 700+ horsepower would help too
Can you ask NASCAR and the teams why narrow wheels and tires isn't a reasonable option to fix the problem with short tracks. If they reduce the width, it would reduce grip and might have a dramatic positive impact on the racing. It would theoretically have the same impact as increasing HP. It would be a low cost solution since it is unlikely that major changes would have to be made to the car. All the teams would have to buy is new wheels which they have to do occasionally anyway. The wide wheels and tires could still be used at tracks where the car races well now. Why isn't this being discussed as a solution?
We know what the fix is horsepower these guys are driving Matchbox cars it's way too easy for him 200 more horsepower and the tires will wear cuz they'll overdrive the corners and they'll wreck more you'll have more problems it'll be more lead changes bidet NASCAR doesn't want to do that because it cost too much money
So stupid I dnt care if it's larson wins or who y would u want to see a race were they are saving gas an tires u should want to see all out no give racing just because some guys couldn't pass dosnt mean u couldn't pass
If the cars are to easy to drive qhy didn't everyone else do as good as larson bunch of haters I swear I didn't realize dirty mo an jr had so many larson haters
Saying larson didn't have to manage his shit an his aggression an diminish his skill is absurd the cars are as even as they have ever been its very hard to pass an lap all the cars he lapped denny is so great why didn't he go up there an challenge larson what a joke
Done hearing all the bullshit from NASCAR. Cut your losses & Scrap the NEXTGEN and go to the Xfinity car with more horsepower. It’s the best product since the Gen4 and it brings back ingenuity to the teams while also being cheaper. Done with this garbage ass car. You can’t depend on GoodYear to have tires blowing out to make it a good race and it’s NOT THE TRACKS. GET RID OF THIS CAR.
Jest because the greatest driver in this era of racing beat the shit out of the field it was a bad race get your hater glasses off because larson passed a shit ton of cars
Missed a great topic. Yeah Connor had a crap ARCA race but gets in a LMP2 car at Indy road course, minus a drive thru penalty for contact, Connor had a great showing and race.
Early spring vs late summer, daytime vs night time, track prep, than give the teams 5 months to r&d the tire. Its really easy to understand how or why, this race was literally night and day difference 😂😂
@@atinwoodsman its politics. I never blame a manufacturer. I always blame nascar because its their sandbox and everyone else just plays in it. If Goodyear made changes to the tire, its because nascar told them to. Goodyear knows exactly what the teams want and can build any tire imaginable. If nascar tells them no, than its a no. Nascar is in charge of everything so if you want blame anyone, you have to blame them. Can they build more power? Yes, but nascar says no. Can they build cars on their own for cheaper? Yes, but nascar made new rules. Are thicker sidewall tires better for racing? Yes, but nascar mandated these new wheels and tires. It all falls on nascar
My thoughts on making changes to the Gen7 car is BRING back the Gen6 tire, keep it a single lug nut since the crews are use to it by now & let them figure it out again. We seen good racing @ all the tracks instead just a few??
He ran 500 laps and led 495. He also won by 7 laps. The criticism isn’t about Larson dominating the race. It’s about the overall product on the short tracks
The old Bristol in its hay day was great, in the past yes it was a one groove track, but it was a challenge to get your car to hug the bottom and be fast. Don’t remember to many stinker of a race when that was the case
TJ……if the cars all the same and the drivers all drive the same, it doesn’t matter what kind of tire is on the car because they will wear down the same. Stop sharing data, allow team to do more to the car and more HP……. Maybe lol
It's hilarious that people are claiming a tire that RANDOMLY POPS sometime after 40 LAPS when the fuel window is almost 190 LAPS is a good thing. Do you understand racing at all? Obviously not. This past weekends race was so much better than the spring, there's no way to measure it. There are many things wrong with the car, but what's being focused on is not going to make anything better. Add more horsepower. That will solve some issues.
Big Kez fan and it wasn't good enough by a mile. The 6 just wasn't fast enough in any of the 3 races - low qualifications, not a single stage point and poor finishes is a sure way to punch your ticket out.
A lot of deception in the air sure can tell when you guys are told to keep your mouth shut about something the 12 car was in front of the 19 for the entire run just like every car in every run. The 19 should have been penalized for passing the 12th Road they started to talk about it on the broadcast but then went silent, just like you. guys are
Man, you can tell who the Larson fans are. They’re the ones calling this a great race. It was a great win, but the race sucked. When a driver chases another down from a straightaway back and then has to follow that car around for 30 laps, it sucks
Maybe racing at the top level in general is fundamentally flawed? Its seems as if its either make all the cars the same and have boring races, or make it to where money matters and whoever has more money is usually faster? Which imo isn't fair at all. So is racing just flawed?
Every week talking about Tire Fall Off it's not going to happen because they don't want these cars to crash because they're cheap and they don't want to spend their money money is the root of all evil.
Kyle Larson will always be immature and not really a great race car driver if he refuses to see the benefits and learn to manage tyres and fuel. With his attitude he would never have succeeded in an earlier era. And yes, the race was boring just because there was no passing. Larson could have dominated but we have great racing in the field and it could have been great. But no racing anywhere is blah.
The CW ….. on the antenna it looked like a 25 year old vhs tape. On the hd channel it was much better. The audio was as good as any nbc race but the video was bad . This is a bad sign for however long the CW has the contract.
too many fans bitch about everything every week it's something else this week it's the car and the racing but we can't have an amazing race every week it's never gona be the same from week to week yes the car sucks it's too areo dependent not enough mechanical grip not enough horsepower not every race should be chaotic and wreckfest with 5 overtimes if it's the same tire teams figured out how to make it last and the best teams always figure it out eventually stop trying to take driver skill out and team prep out of it
I'm a 100% a Larson fan,but this was not a good race for racing sake. It's awesome he dominated and won. It took him half a run to pass a 3 lap down car
They killed BOTH ATLANTA and BRISTOL. They used to be races to look forward to. Now, we have restrictor plate racing and a progessive banking that NASCAR has tried to move the groove high then low then dirt. Shameful. Pathetic. It's clear NASCAR is eliminating short tracks while adding more road courses.
Justin Haley going back to spire is a terrible decision. Spire will kick him out of that car as soon as he doesn’t run well or whenever trackhouse needs that seat for their drivers
No offense to Casey but we need you to keep Karsyn
Please keep Karsyn, she has a personality and adds a ton to the show, Casey on the other hand just talks funny and makes awkward comments 🤷🏻♂️
“Nascar, fix your fucking car!”
-Christian Horner
I’d vote for Horner to become president of nascar
How can we go from the greatest race at Bristol with this Car in the spring to this disaster. Ain’t no way Goodyear brought the same tire.
Heard Rudy Fugle say this morning on SiriusXM that he thought it was a different compound than the spring race. Said the spring tire was more oily when you touched it
Daytime in March and night in September are a little different on the tires. Cliff Daniels said it was laying rubber so grip was gonna be higher and there would overall be less tire wear
@@pandaexpress7326 They did a Bristol tire test in July and everyone there said the tire started coming apart the exact same way it did in the Spring. I'm not surprised that the teams made adjustments so it wouldn't be as bad but the tire really didn't fall off at all. Rudy Fugle said he thinks this tire would have ran the entire 500 laps which is absurd
Because they had support series this time laying down rubber. They pressure washed the track so I’m guess it shredded the tires as it was a completely clean surface
Track prep was different
Carson is a GREAT addition to the team. Please keep her, she has a big personality.
They can’t Wally Pipp Casey when she’s off on maternity leave, she would sue DIrty Mo into oblivion.
Keep Karsyn, dump Casey.
Casey would own that company if they fired her for being off on maternity leave.
I feel like Carson should stay
Keep Karsyn!!!!!!
The high downforce and low horse power are the problems.
If the straightaway speeds and corner speeds continue to stay so close, passing will be at a minimum. More horse power would increase the need to slow down more to make the corners. More horse power would burn up the rear tires more quickly.
Please dont leave us karsyn!!!!
Karson is Awesome!!! She should Stay !!!
Can we keep karsyn on the show??😍
Karsyn 💯
I live an hour from Bristol and have been going to races there for over 20 years with my family. It's without question Bristol isn't anything like it used to be, and it's not just rose-tinted glasses either. The nextgen car didn't help I'm sure.
Karsyn is the best.
the cars are junk
The next gen isn’t bad looking but I hate it currently.. rip the diffuser off, 1000 hp, smaller brakes, and softer tires. Playoff system sucks. Go back to the chase at the very least. And I hate stage cautions.. at minimum remove the stage 1 yellow. I hate modern nascar tbh
Just get rid of the next gen already lol it's a flawed product.
Go to F1 and complain about them
keep the girl..... 🔥
Lets drink Meeemosaas with TJ watching the JagUars
More horsepower or less tire.
weekly ask to keep karsyn over the other loud annoying one
Pave the corners back at Bristol and get rid of the progressive banking.
Reduce the tire width and get rid of the low profile tire. This will fix 90% of this car's problem.
Get rid of the under body shield and the defuser.
Raise the cars back up and let teams do their own shock package.
This car is nothing but a glorified racing kart .
What amazes me is during the tire wars both hoosier and good year came with the softest tire possible. So soft that tires were blistering and blowing out but goodyear can't make a softer tire now ? They can easily but its not good years problem to fix nascar's new car. Good year is not competing against anyone else so why would they risk building too soft of a tire and having the drivers get out and bad mouth them.
This car is nothing but a kit car. You put it together like a model. Putting the wrong bolt in the wrong place can cost you 100 grand.
The more pressing question would be, "Is Nascar Just a Shadow of Its Former Self?"
meemosas and jagwires had me dying 😆😆
I will not spend a dime on going to a NASCAR race until this “next Gen” sports car gong show is a thing of the past
cope boomer
@@collinclary5762 no kidding. I'd like to know how many races he has been to, how much merch he's bought, how many driver meet and greets, etc. but he'd lie his ass off. Bunch of whiny old heads.
@@collinclary5762it’s the flat brains like you who eat tide pods and think this pawn shop car is any good 🤷🏻♂️
Cleetus puts on a better race at Bristol.
brother did you watch that danger ranger on dirt?
@@thomaswatson8610 That jump was nuts!
Best intermediate car ever! Worst short track. You can’t run the same hp package for everything. Need to up the hp or this is the result.
I'm definitely going to miss hearing Karson. I could listen to her reading the phone book & not get bored.
Someone needs to patent their SMT data as intellectual property or racecraft. Force them to not share data. Surprised someone hasn’t tried it.
Why didn't everyone run 500 qualifying laps ?
If denny would have done this no one would be saying shit
Another great show!
Karsyn full time next year pls
I like being able to see the SMT Data but I don't think other teams should be able to see other team's SMT Data...lol
The data should be proprietary information for each team...imo
How individual teams read and apply their own data is what separates good teams from great teams and 700+ horsepower would help too
Can you ask NASCAR and the teams why narrow wheels and tires isn't a reasonable option to fix the problem with short tracks. If they reduce the width, it would reduce grip and might have a dramatic positive impact on the racing. It would theoretically have the same impact as increasing HP. It would be a low cost solution since it is unlikely that major changes would have to be made to the car. All the teams would have to buy is new wheels which they have to do occasionally anyway. The wide wheels and tires could still be used at tracks where the car races well now. Why isn't this being discussed as a solution?
these cars are closer to GT3 cars than xfinity cars, you made a road course car for ovals
Jr. Didn't loose a lap cos pace car damn near stopped lol even turned the lights back on to prevent it
Next Gen car through Eau Rouge would be wild
Never crossed my mind, but yeah
Maybe 10 guys would make it through Radillon and Eau rouge without wrecking
We know what the fix is horsepower these guys are driving Matchbox cars it's way too easy for him 200 more horsepower and the tires will wear cuz they'll overdrive the corners and they'll wreck more you'll have more problems it'll be more lead changes bidet NASCAR doesn't want to do that because it cost too much money
900Hp and get rid of the damn splitter
I like having Karsyn as the host. She's a great fit. Bring her back!
That's not true cuz Ross Chastain hauled ass for 2 years and they sat him down Rick Hendrick open his mouth and told him to slow down
So stupid I dnt care if it's larson wins or who y would u want to see a race were they are saving gas an tires u should want to see all out no give racing just because some guys couldn't pass dosnt mean u couldn't pass
If the cars are to easy to drive qhy didn't everyone else do as good as larson bunch of haters I swear I didn't realize dirty mo an jr had so many larson haters
Saying larson didn't have to manage his shit an his aggression an diminish his skill is absurd the cars are as even as they have ever been its very hard to pass an lap all the cars he lapped denny is so great why didn't he go up there an challenge larson what a joke
Race was a let down I was so pumped after the spring race but on the bright side ol hung money done it again
Done hearing all the bullshit from NASCAR. Cut your losses & Scrap the NEXTGEN and go to the Xfinity car with more horsepower. It’s the best product since the Gen4 and it brings back ingenuity to the teams while also being cheaper. Done with this garbage ass car.
You can’t depend on GoodYear to have tires blowing out to make it a good race and it’s NOT THE TRACKS. GET RID OF THIS CAR.
Single source parts supplier, gee I wonder who that is. What a joke
If it’s so easy why hasn’t anyone done what Larson just did or better yet get your ass in the seat since it’s so easy to drive.
Jest because the greatest driver in this era of racing beat the shit out of the field it was a bad race get your hater glasses off because larson passed a shit ton of cars
UA-camTV had the xfinity race on CW I'm in Texas
Missed a great topic. Yeah Connor had a crap ARCA race but gets in a LMP2 car at Indy road course, minus a drive thru penalty for contact, Connor had a great showing and race.
Early spring vs late summer, daytime vs night time, track prep, than give the teams 5 months to r&d the tire. Its really easy to understand how or why, this race was literally night and day difference 😂😂
One would think Goodyear would know this 😩
@@atinwoodsman its politics. I never blame a manufacturer. I always blame nascar because its their sandbox and everyone else just plays in it. If Goodyear made changes to the tire, its because nascar told them to. Goodyear knows exactly what the teams want and can build any tire imaginable. If nascar tells them no, than its a no. Nascar is in charge of everything so if you want blame anyone, you have to blame them. Can they build more power? Yes, but nascar says no. Can they build cars on their own for cheaper? Yes, but nascar made new rules. Are thicker sidewall tires better for racing? Yes, but nascar mandated these new wheels and tires. It all falls on nascar
My thoughts on making changes to the Gen7 car is BRING back the Gen6 tire, keep it a single lug nut since the crews are use to it by now & let them figure it out again. We seen good racing @ all the tracks instead just a few??
Would you be so negative decades ago when Cale Yarborough ran 495 laps and won?
He ran 500 laps and led 495. He also won by 7 laps. The criticism isn’t about Larson dominating the race. It’s about the overall product on the short tracks
Enough of this phrase}"It is what it is"!
This year Sonoma's repave was a huge improvement over the old asphalt and they ran wide open every lap compared to what they could do in the past
Day/Night was the big difference between the 2 races and Spring and Fall but I don't if that true
6 under Caution. 1 on a Restart. 1 actual GF pass for lead. -Lap 33
The old Bristol in its hay day was great, in the past yes it was a one groove track, but it was a challenge to get your car to hug the bottom and be fast. Don’t remember to many stinker of a race when that was the case
TJ……if the cars all the same and the drivers all drive the same, it doesn’t matter what kind of tire is on the car because they will wear down the same. Stop sharing data, allow team to do more to the car and more HP……. Maybe lol
It's hilarious that people are claiming a tire that RANDOMLY POPS sometime after 40 LAPS when the fuel window is almost 190 LAPS is a good thing. Do you understand racing at all? Obviously not. This past weekends race was so much better than the spring, there's no way to measure it. There are many things wrong with the car, but what's being focused on is not going to make anything better.
Add more horsepower. That will solve some issues.
No Bristol still rocks. Are soft nascar fans just an enormous shadow of their former tough self?
Big Kez fan and it wasn't good enough by a mile. The 6 just wasn't fast enough in any of the 3 races - low qualifications, not a single stage point and poor finishes is a sure way to punch your ticket out.
Carson is AMAZING! Casey can just stay pregnant and gone. This show is better with Carson and it’s not particularly close
Spring race sucked because Hamlin won and I loved this race because Larson didn’t wreck and he won!! Yes I’m a Larson fan but he has 20% dnf’s
A lot of deception in the air sure can tell when you guys are told to keep your mouth shut about something the 12 car was in front of the 19 for the entire run just like every car in every run. The 19 should have been penalized for passing the 12th Road they started to talk about it on the broadcast but then went silent, just like you. guys are
Man, you can tell who the Larson fans are. They’re the ones calling this a great race. It was a great win, but the race sucked. When a driver chases another down from a straightaway back and then has to follow that car around for 30 laps, it sucks
Maybe racing at the top level in general is fundamentally flawed? Its seems as if its either make all the cars the same and have boring races, or make it to where money matters and whoever has more money is usually faster? Which imo isn't fair at all. So is racing just flawed?
Every week talking about Tire Fall Off it's not going to happen because they don't want these cars to crash because they're cheap and they don't want to spend their money money is the root of all evil.
Kyle Larson will always be immature and not really a great race car driver if he refuses to see the benefits and learn to manage tyres and fuel. With his attitude he would never have succeeded in an earlier era.
And yes, the race was boring just because there was no passing. Larson could have dominated but we have great racing in the field and it could have been great. But no racing anywhere is blah.
The CW ….. on the antenna it looked like a 25 year old vhs tape. On the hd channel it was much better. The audio was as good as any nbc race but the video was bad . This is a bad sign for however long the CW has the contract.
Bristol hasn't been the same since they went to progressive banking in 2007. And this new car definitely doesn't help things either.
too many fans bitch about everything every week it's something else this week it's the car and the racing but we can't have an amazing race every week it's never gona be the same from week to week yes the car sucks it's too areo dependent not enough mechanical grip not enough horsepower not every race should be chaotic and wreckfest with 5 overtimes if it's the same tire teams figured out how to make it last and the best teams always figure it out eventually stop trying to take driver skill out and team prep out of it
Can someone please tell me which episode Brett did the metal voice TJ is referring to??? I’m dying to hear Goats on Fire
I'm a 100% a Larson fan,but this was not a good race for racing sake. It's awesome he dominated and won. It took him half a run to pass a 3 lap down car
They killed BOTH ATLANTA and BRISTOL. They used to be races to look forward to. Now, we have restrictor plate racing and a progessive banking that NASCAR has tried to move the groove high then low then dirt. Shameful. Pathetic. It's clear NASCAR is eliminating short tracks while adding more road courses.
Atlanta I’d say it’s aging very well
Bristol or the short track package in general is bad
Road course are only 5 compared to 31 oval races
Been to the Thirsty Beaver 3 times. Missed Mick Jagger by ONE DAY! A place that stands on its principles!
Bring karson back, she and the guys have a lot of fun together you can tell.
i listen to a driver on the scanner every race i can, and 9/10 races, the radio is being complained about. svg, dale, jones, every time.
Justin Haley going back to spire is a terrible decision. Spire will kick him out of that car as soon as he doesn’t run well or whenever trackhouse needs that seat for their drivers
My son was about 3 years old when I took him to Hooters in KC and I have a picture of him kissing a Hooters girl
If it’s the same tire,
They lied
Goodyear did not bring back the same tire or the tire was old tires. Thank you DBC .
i have you tube TV and we have CW as part of our local channels here Michigan
The umpire also deserves ,"what an idiot" for calling the kid out when he did not see it
They all have the same opportunity to make the same setup as larson an they didn't stop hating
can tj please stop smacking his lips its disgusting. drink some water or something
Couldn't get CW race on DirecTV Stream either. CW app doesn't carry any live sports.
Corey Lajoie is a jam car. Why would you continue his contract?
Sprint cars race in sprint races not much for saving tires it’s about getting to the finish line asap!
Every time Brett says Elliot Sadler you gotta take a shot of fireball 😂
Is NASCAR Just a Shadow of Its Former Self?*
You need to put softer skinnier tires on the cars for the short tracks not that difficult
The Car is harder to drive on IRacing then it is for these guys.
Bahrain is its own country. Been there more times than I want to remember.
Crazy that saying a light caution balls out race is a bad race.
A regular cab Ford F-150 with a coyote has more power than the race cars😂
Was that the same tire as the other bristol race that stole the show???
Coming from a Larson fan it was great to see him take that flag but a absolute dud of a race.
It's the horsepower and these cars being in a bubble
I watched it on youtube tv with no problem.