They need to support RCT balls in order to get good indoor results. Reading a standard ball indoors via radar is very difficult. RCT is the same as a dotted/marked ball for optical launch monitors. Thanks for testing.
Hi, thanks for watching! Yeah, radar units generally perform pretty well with the ball speed metric. Hopefully, with the next couple of firmware updates, they’ll be able to improve the other metrics as well.
Adam, I’m on the verge of getting a refund. I called the company today and told them my issues with iron distance readings. I was told for irons to move the unit from 5’ to 4’ to the ball. Probably try that tomorrow. I also mentioned your channel reviews to him and how your irons distances were also off. They plan to check out your videos.
Hi Mark, Thanks for sharing. I'll try out 4 feet and see if it helps with the irons. Hopefully, they release another firmware update soon, and it includes RCT ball support.
I hit some iron shots at 4” from unit to ball. I got a little better carry distance with my 7i at 160. But it was 42° outside and I have a slight pulled muscle in my back, so maybe the numbers were good.
Yeah, this device works better on the range since it can track the ball over a much greater distance. The biggest problem with range balls is that they can vary significantly, making it hard to trust the numbers when hitting balls you wouldn’t use on the course. This device is radar-only and doesn’t have a camera like the MLM 2PRO, so it isn’t affected by lighting conditions.
The one I use is the Optoma GT1080HDR, and I’ve been using it for a little over three years now. It was discontinued back in 2023, and I believe its current replacement is the GT2000HDR, which features an upgraded laser light source. It has been a really good short-throw projector, and it’s still surprisingly running on the original bulb. Optoma GT1080HDR link - www.projectorcentral.com/Optoma-GT1080HDR.htm
I have a very small indoor space, only 11ft from wall to net. If I’m willing to forgo spin data indoors, will this unit pick up ball speed and launch direction at 6ft? A SKYTrak+ is out of my budget and the Square can’t go outdoors.
Yeah, 11 feet is pretty tight. I’ll try hitting some shots at 6 feet later today when I get home to see if it’s possible and will message you back. My guess is that it will probably work for the lower end of the bag with wedges and short irons, but not as well once the ball speed starts to increase.
I was able to test at 6 feet a little last night, and on a positive note, the SC4 PRO did read every shot. However, I will say the individual accuracy and shot shape were about the same as in my other video test. I hit 4 shots each with my Mini Driver, 7-Iron, and Pitching Wedge, and here are the averages from each set of shots below. Club Type - Ball Speed - Push/Pull - Side Spin- Total Spin - Carry (yds) GC2 Driver 153.75 3.475 -331.5 3436 243.52 SC4 Driver 154.1 5.4 142.5 2966 261.2 GC2 7 Iron 121.92 -1.875 -1106.25 5603 173.65 SC4 7 Iron 121.32 1.125 -526.75 6621 176.12 GC2 PW 100.65 -2.675 -2142 7959 131.3 SC4 PW 99.37 1.875 53 9071 130.7
@@homelaunchgolf thanks, this is awesome. ball speed seems spot on, and carry is good too. launch direction seems consistent (maybe you had the SC4 aligned a couple of degrees to the left?). I'm less concerned about driver, I don't use it much, and probably won't use it indoors at all.
I agree-outdoors on the range is definitely the best environment for this device right now. I like to test it at 8 to 9 feet because the Garmin R10 and Rapsodo MLM2PRO work well at those distances, and not everyone has enough space in their setup to accommodate 10-12 feet of ball flight. At the moment, even with 12 feet, I don’t think it will make much difference until the device can capture spin more accurately indoors. They really need to make this device compatible with RCT balls, especially since devices like the Garmin R10, Mevo Plus, and Trackman benefit from them. Additionally, for most shots from 8 feet, the ball will complete more than two full revolutions. It’s really only high ball speed and low spin shots-likely only with a driver-that might not achieve a full two revolutions at that distance.
@@MarkLamprecht That makes no sense as Chat GPT doesnt know the club or how high the spin is. Also especially sidespin is important and the ball usually spins a lot less sideways than backwards.
Yeah, it's pretty cool that ChatGPT can do that. I fed it the tour averages from this article, and it came up with the information below. Article - www.golfmonthly.com/tour/how-far-pga-tour-players-hit-every-club-in-the-bag Here are those number converted into revolutions per foot and then into feet per two full revolutions. Unfortunately can not format this very well in the comment section. Club Ball Speed (MPH) Spin Rate (RPM) Revolutions Per Foot Feet for Two Revolutions Driver 171 2545 0.17 11.83 3-Wood 162 3663 0.26 7.78 5-Wood 156 4322 0.31 6.35 Hybrid 149 4587 0.35 5.72 3-Iron 145 4404 0.35 5.79 4-Iron 140 4782 0.39 5.15 5-Iron 135 5280 0.44 4.50 6-Iron 130 6204 0.54 3.69 7-Iron 123 7124 0.66 3.04 8-Iron 118 8078 0.78 2.57 9-Iron 112 8793 0.89 2.24 PWedge 104 9316 1.02 1.96
Thank you for the honest review. Voice Caddy is having a major issue with the firmware and the product is not selling.
They need to support RCT balls in order to get good indoor results. Reading a standard ball indoors via radar is very difficult. RCT is the same as a dotted/marked ball for optical launch monitors.
Thanks for testing.
Completely agree. It needs something for accurate spin indoors-RCT balls or even a metal dot like the Mevo Plus would be fine also.
I agree with those comments..need special mark on ball or over 12 feet of ball flight..tho for the video
Yeah, they really need to figure out a way to make RCT balls compatible with this device.
All I am seeing is ball speed and carry distance are very similar which is great for $500
Hi, thanks for watching! Yeah, radar units generally perform pretty well with the ball speed metric. Hopefully, with the next couple of firmware updates, they’ll be able to improve the other metrics as well.
Adam, I’m on the verge of getting a refund. I called the company today and told them my issues with iron distance readings. I was told for irons to move the unit from 5’ to 4’ to the ball. Probably try that tomorrow.
I also mentioned your channel reviews to him and how your irons distances were also off. They plan to check out your videos.
Hi Mark, Thanks for sharing. I'll try out 4 feet and see if it helps with the irons. Hopefully, they release another firmware update soon, and it includes RCT ball support.
I hit some iron shots at 4” from unit to ball. I got a little better carry distance with my 7i at 160. But it was 42° outside and I have a slight pulled muscle in my back, so maybe the numbers were good.
Maybe it’s the lighting. The video seems low light? Have you tried this on a range outdoor
Yeah, this device works better on the range since it can track the ball over a much greater distance. The biggest problem with range balls is that they can vary significantly, making it hard to trust the numbers when hitting balls you wouldn’t use on the course. This device is radar-only and doesn’t have a camera like the MLM 2PRO, so it isn’t affected by lighting conditions.
What projector are you using?
The one I use is the Optoma GT1080HDR, and I’ve been using it for a little over three years now. It was discontinued back in 2023, and I believe its current replacement is the GT2000HDR, which features an upgraded laser light source. It has been a really good short-throw projector, and it’s still surprisingly running on the original bulb.
Optoma GT1080HDR link - www.projectorcentral.com/Optoma-GT1080HDR.htm
I have a very small indoor space, only 11ft from wall to net. If I’m willing to forgo spin data indoors, will this unit pick up ball speed and launch direction at 6ft? A SKYTrak+ is out of my budget and the Square can’t go outdoors.
Yeah, 11 feet is pretty tight. I’ll try hitting some shots at 6 feet later today when I get home to see if it’s possible and will message you back. My guess is that it will probably work for the lower end of the bag with wedges and short irons, but not as well once the ball speed starts to increase.
I was able to test at 6 feet a little last night, and on a positive note, the SC4 PRO did read every shot. However, I will say the individual accuracy and shot shape were about the same as in my other video test. I hit 4 shots each with my Mini Driver, 7-Iron, and Pitching Wedge, and here are the averages from each set of shots below.
Club Type - Ball Speed - Push/Pull - Side Spin- Total Spin - Carry (yds)
GC2 Driver 153.75 3.475 -331.5 3436 243.52
SC4 Driver 154.1 5.4 142.5 2966 261.2
GC2 7 Iron 121.92 -1.875 -1106.25 5603 173.65
SC4 7 Iron 121.32 1.125 -526.75 6621 176.12
GC2 PW 100.65 -2.675 -2142 7959 131.3
SC4 PW 99.37 1.875 53 9071 130.7
@@homelaunchgolf thanks, this is awesome. ball speed seems spot on, and carry is good too. launch direction seems consistent (maybe you had the SC4 aligned a couple of degrees to the left?). I'm less concerned about driver, I don't use it much, and probably won't use it indoors at all.
8feet is irrelevant. The Unit needs 2 full revelations of the ball to measure accurately. On the range it is a lot better.
I agree-outdoors on the range is definitely the best environment for this device right now. I like to test it at 8 to 9 feet because the Garmin R10 and Rapsodo MLM2PRO work well at those distances, and not everyone has enough space in their setup to accommodate 10-12 feet of ball flight. At the moment, even with 12 feet, I don’t think it will make much difference until the device can capture spin more accurately indoors. They really need to make this device compatible with RCT balls, especially since devices like the Garmin R10, Mevo Plus, and Trackman benefit from them.
Additionally, for most shots from 8 feet, the ball will complete more than two full revolutions. It’s really only high ball speed and low spin shots-likely only with a driver-that might not achieve a full two revolutions at that distance.
Chat GPT says a Golf ball will complete two full revolutions at approximately 0.88 ft (10.5”). If correct, I’m not sure this is an issue.
@@MarkLamprecht That makes no sense as Chat GPT doesnt know the club or how high the spin is. Also especially sidespin is important and the ball usually spins a lot less sideways than backwards.
Yeah, it's pretty cool that ChatGPT can do that. I fed it the tour averages from this article, and it came up with the information below.
Article - www.golfmonthly.com/tour/how-far-pga-tour-players-hit-every-club-in-the-bag
Here are those number converted into revolutions per foot and then into feet per two full revolutions. Unfortunately can not format this very well in the comment section.
Club Ball Speed (MPH) Spin Rate (RPM) Revolutions Per Foot Feet for Two Revolutions
Driver 171 2545 0.17 11.83
3-Wood 162 3663 0.26 7.78
5-Wood 156 4322 0.31 6.35
Hybrid 149 4587 0.35 5.72
3-Iron 145 4404 0.35 5.79
4-Iron 140 4782 0.39 5.15
5-Iron 135 5280 0.44 4.50
6-Iron 130 6204 0.54 3.69
7-Iron 123 7124 0.66 3.04
8-Iron 118 8078 0.78 2.57
9-Iron 112 8793 0.89 2.24
PWedge 104 9316 1.02 1.96
@@homelaunchgolf This is still just backspin numbers though, not sidespin