agree been playing magic since beta and ive watched every bit of footage on youtube, i always come back to this tournament. Shouta's deck is so ahead of the pack. His match with Finkel is also great from this event.
@@nathana5718I always looked up to him as a Magic player, I was killed when I found out he had cheated because it makes me wonder if he earned his title of “Best Player in the World” during his early 2000’s run without cheating.
I don't find Rich Hagon's analysis annoying at all really. Sometimes the things he say are a bit brash but he just commentates the matches and he's really passionate about the game, he also does a fantastic job of leading commentary and keeping the analysis going which is quite difficult.
+Yosef Estill he does tend to hype up some players to the point that it seems like he's undervaluing or even insulting their opponents skill. Could be considered brash in my opinion.
Also, I was really sad when the Invitational was discontinued. In my opinion this tournament has everything that made the invitational worth following. Love the new tournament structure.
A friend at work mentioned that he played MTG a lot, so I figured I'd check it out. Just ordered the 2014 fat pack, Chandra starter deck, and the 2014 deck builder. I'm seriously excited to get started! I've known about MTG since I was a kid, but never played for some reason.
He Did not cheat he is a good man and It was confirmed only a couple cards were bent but the were all different cards and he has a different shuffle style
@@juanrhinehart9256 where did you get that information? The information I saw was several marks on several cards investigated by several judges and staff conclusively resulted in a ban
Stop at 42:20 to see Aurelia, The Warleader back at the big screen, unfortunate the camera view is not complete, but still it worth it.. Spectacular view.
At 6:50, if you look closely, he does three shuffles and each time he cuts exactly to a Dark Confidant and puts it on the bottom. Not saying it's cheating, just a crazy odds.
You can look up the decks that the players used. I googled "2012 players championship decklists" and found good links that youtube doesn't want me posting. You can also look up any specific cards that you're not familiar with by typing some of the card name into google along with "mtg," and you'll get an image of the card. That should help you keep up.
I started playing MTG after I blew out my knee 2 years ago. I couldn't skate, or play ball any more so I began to enter my more "nerdier" side as an outlet of productivity. As I progressed I began to find that about half of my friends played magic growing up, but never said anything about it because it is "nerdy", and didn't consider me to be someone who would be interested. However the more, and more I played my friends all started playing again, and now I have weekly tournaments at my house.
What cracks me up about the volume, is that you can barely hear the commentators yet you can hear every click or snap from the players flicking their cards (O.o)p figure THAT out!
If you have played for a long time, and know the format, what cards are good, and often used, and look up the eventual ones you miss, it's not so difficult. It demands some devotion, however.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor is only legal and is played in legacy. Liliana of the Veil is played in standard, modern, and legacy. Guruk Relentless is played in standard and a bit in legacy. All the planeswalkers legal in standard see some play.
Jeroen Katgert has a point with Yasooka not bolting the Treetop Village until after it dealt damage to him in the same turn in G1. Also, around 12:20 Yasooka swung with a Snapcaster while Watanabe had Treetop Village on field, bolt in hand, and enough mana for both. Instead of trying to block with the Village, he just bolted Snappy right away. Are these misplays or am I crazy?
Yasooka didn't bolt the treetop in combat because he wanted to hold snapcaster-mana leak or snapcaster-cryptic for a possible tarmogoyf/liliana/confidant that Watanabe could play after combat. At 12:20 there was no treetop village in Watanabe's side of the board.
There are some cards that let you play multiple lands in a turn, such as Rites of Flourishing and Explore, but usually ramp spells are limited only to green.
i dont get Shouta Yasookas deck, 13 creatures in main and vial? also snapy and the faries with flash....? to know the meta would have been interessting...
1. Drawing Cards=more access to spells to answer with anything the opponent throws down. 2. Its not used in EVERY black deck, just the ones that need the extra boost. 3. In endgame situations, it prevents you from drawing lands (or at least you kill off two at one time). 4. A few damage is really insignificant and if its going to cost you, 1 toughness creatures aren't hard to get rid of. 5. It's still a 2 for a 2/1 which is good.
You should give it a go someday. It's a lot of fun. Start with the video games first if you don't want to fork out much money or have anyone to play with.
hello, i have a great problem here, anyone can explain me whats happen in this second ... 2012 Players Championship Finals: Shouta Yasooka vs. Yuuya Watanabe why cryptic command counter tarmogoyf if this lose the target to up permanent Eternal Witness? ...... thats suppose the command will counter itself for losing its targets.
Jacob Ortiz the cryptic command has two targets , the spell in the stack and the eternal witness to bounce, it loses one so it does the best that he can, counter the spell, it will be countered if the modes were return witness and draw a card for example, and the witness is killed in response, because the spell has no valid targets any more.
it doesn't say that. No card does, mainly because you can't add a card to your mana pool. You add mana to your mana pool. That is what that card does. 1 Black or 1 Red mana, specifically.
A lot of what they're saying is advanced terminology for pro players that most of us casual players just ignore. These things will make more sense in time.
This is a complicated format to try to get into in the first place. It is called the modern format, and consists of cards, all the way back from eight edition (2003). The amount of knowlege you would need to fully understand this format is breathtakin, and at this level, with this pace... It is no wonder you are getting confused by it, i know i would, back in 2003.
In the Final match at 1:29:00 , when Shouta cast Clique in response to inquisition, he revealed BBE, Finks, and land. Shouta took finks over BBE, why? 2 finks triggers is better then BBE and Lili coming down. I feel like he threw the game away on the play. Really wanted to see him win =[
You should try it, but I wouldn't start out with the format they're playing (Modern) because it is REALLY EXPENSIVE. I would recommend buying two intro packs and play with a friend and see if you like it. Hope you enjoy!
Does fetch lands abilities go to the stack or not? In the beginning of the 4th match. Watanabe casts Inquisition of Kozilek and then Yasooka cracks his fetch and goes for the shock land. Then he responds to Inquisition with Mana Leak. Can he resolve the land ability and then answer the Iquisition that was on the stack?
+wolfie Baumgartner That's a bit weird because is playing the land ability, resolving it and then can cast other spell in response to the stack 1st stack :/
It all has to do with priority he can fetch in response then pas priority to the other player but usually they don't so they can get their land and cast the mana leak it's VERY common
Yeah I got ya. From what I notice it's all about speed/cards that do multiple things for you. Cards that have relatively low mana costs that are efficient enough to have multiple roles. I've seen people play goyf in both legacy and modern though, but eh; I wonder what people will be playing with in a year or two.
There are various ways depending on the format you play but sticking to standard which is much simpler, pretty much the only way to play more than 1 land a turn is using ramp spells such as farseek/rampant growth would be the simplest example.
you do realize that when they "bend" the cards which they don't, they shuffle by bending them up and down. that way the cards don't actually get bent, and most of the time they get shuffled in the corners to specifically prevent the entire card from getting bent so what you said is just stupid.
can somone answer this i feel dumb asking but i was playing my friend and he said that he was allowed to play drowned catacomb and a basic land in the same turn is that really allowed.
Hello MrMtggamer. I have a question i hope you can help me out. I live in Chile so there is not much of a MTG culture here, but i have a few friends that play and i go to a couple of little tournaments. Could you advise me what is the best way to beat a red/black deck. Everybody down here is playing with does decks!
Liliana sitting right there with 4 counters, commentator mentioning "Doesn't want to cast Clique-yet to dodge the Maelstrom pulse; Doesn't want to cast it despite the vial to dodge a potential second pulse" ...Good job.
I just found out that this thoughtsieze card that was gathering dust in the corner of my room is worth £20 in its lightly played condition. I've had it for 4 or 5 years now and not once did i think to check its value.
I'm thinking of getting that stuff too, haven't played for maybe 8-9 years. I'm not sure if I will get value for the money though - i.e. that I will play enough until it's worth the money. I'm sticking to the PC games on steam for now :)
because they're basically chess matches. There is a huge card pool. You have to sit and think constantly about what you can do vs. what your opponent can do. You can't see your opponents hand when you play so you have to play the mental game. ESPECIALLY with as much on the line as there is.
Before Modern Horizon’s set this format was such a good magic to play…
that power creep! we are old
Best Magic the Gathering match I have ever seen. One of the reasons I fell in love with Jund.
agree been playing magic since beta and ive watched every bit of footage on youtube, i always come back to this tournament. Shouta's deck is so ahead of the pack. His match with Finkel is also great from this event.
Best all time mtg modern match ever played, to me. I watched it so many times I basically remember all the game moves.
I always look back at this match with sadness as if watanabe cheated during the event Shouta was robbed of a world championship title.
Definitely. Hard to say, but it does bring all of his past accomplishments into question.
@@nathana5718I always looked up to him as a Magic player, I was killed when I found out he had cheated because it makes me wonder if he earned his title of “Best Player in the World” during his early 2000’s run without cheating.
@@skylar5257 Yeah man I was gutted too. Was an absolutely huge Watanabe stan during that era. Was hard not to be with his record.
Wow. Some of the best magic I've ever seen played. Thanks Wizards for uploading these. It really made my week.
My type of modern, grindy decks trying to out value the other
i totaly love it aswell its so entertaining.
When magic was still nice! Not that op power creep today. Companion smh
this was a great format
I don't find Rich Hagon's analysis annoying at all really. Sometimes the things he say are a bit brash but he just commentates the matches and he's really passionate about the game, he also does a fantastic job of leading commentary and keeping the analysis going which is quite difficult.
How is he brash, though?
+Yosef Estill he does tend to hype up some players to the point that it seems like he's undervaluing or even insulting their opponents skill. Could be considered brash in my opinion.
Yeah, I guess can see that.Condoriano
Condoriano
I guess I see that as more lame and annoying than anything else.
+Yosef Estill that's fair.
When magic was still magic. RIP
Also, I was really sad when the Invitational was discontinued. In my opinion this tournament has everything that made the invitational worth following. Love the new tournament structure.
Apparently Yasooka built this deck on Wednesday before the tournament. WOW.
"What a match! What a week! What a nabay!"
Wow! That has always been one of my favorite matches in mtg
One..?
I totally agree. This is how magic should be, dynamic and paced, while every move gets the time for concidderation it needs.
Very tight match from start to finish
You guys are great commentators so far (the first game), and, maybe in part because the players are going so fast, this is exciting to watch!
A friend at work mentioned that he played MTG a lot, so I figured I'd check it out. Just ordered the 2014 fat pack, Chandra starter deck, and the 2014 deck builder. I'm seriously excited to get started! I've known about MTG since I was a kid, but never played for some reason.
Best of the Best.That was epic,easly the best final match of the last two years.Cant wait for the 2013 championship.
best commentary team, only marshall is missing to complete the perfect trio
Agreed
Nah that would be Cedrick and Patrick
I've never played or watched a game of Magic before...just imagine how i feel watching this :)
LOL All the Bloodbraid Elf comments aged well.
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PLEASE PLEASE turn the volume up!!!!
Wizards, you should back to this setup.
who came here after the disappointing Watanabe news?
makes you wonder how much he cheated up until the point of no return. pretty much invalidates his entire time playing magic competitively.
He Did not cheat he is a good man and It was confirmed only a couple cards were bent but the were all different cards and he has a different shuffle style
@@juanrhinehart9256 where did you get that information? The information I saw was several marks on several cards investigated by several judges and staff conclusively resulted in a ban
C Q I thought you were talking about pro tour amonkhet
@@juanrhinehart9256 ah gotcha, gotcha. ok i was wondering if you had info i didnt!
Stop at 42:20 to see Aurelia, The Warleader back at the big screen, unfortunate the camera view is not complete, but still it worth it.. Spectacular view.
Watching this in 2021 and this is so entertaining. Love both the decks and the gameplay
You have to be of a special breed to be this good at Magic
Thank you!
I've never played before... But I felt the tension right in my seat.
This is great!
My buddy Josh got me into Magic The Gathering and now I'm hooked. God help me.
What a match what a week WATANABE
this deserves more likes.
its 2022 and these decks still look solid
This is the Next level play of Magic that I like
If still find my comments insulting, then I compliment you for your incredible moral upstanding, you are a better man than I.
Game 1: 2:34
Game 2: 27:10
Game 3: 42:29
Game 4: 1:12:30
Game 5: 1:23:48
Should have someone look over the final product of these videos. The audio is always very low and often one second behind.
Drives me crazy how much they fidget with their hands, cycling through their cards and what-not.
At 6:50, if you look closely, he does three shuffles and each time he cuts exactly to a Dark Confidant and puts it on the bottom. Not saying it's cheating, just a crazy odds.
magic the gathering rocks
+Jeff Morse King Autismo.
You can look up the decks that the players used. I googled "2012 players championship decklists" and found good links that youtube doesn't want me posting.
You can also look up any specific cards that you're not familiar with by typing some of the card name into google along with "mtg," and you'll get an image of the card.
That should help you keep up.
I started playing MTG after I blew out my knee 2 years ago. I couldn't skate, or play ball any more so I began to enter my more "nerdier" side as an outlet of productivity. As I progressed I began to find that about half of my friends played magic growing up, but never said anything about it because it is "nerdy", and didn't consider me to be someone who would be interested. However the more, and more I played my friends all started playing again, and now I have weekly tournaments at my house.
This isn't on television. This is on an internet stream.
And for some reason UA-cam is censoring the contraction "did not"
What cracks me up about the volume, is that you can barely hear the commentators yet you can hear every click or snap from the players flicking their cards (O.o)p figure THAT out!
If you have played for a long time, and know the format, what cards are good, and often used, and look up the eventual ones you miss, it's not so difficult. It demands some devotion, however.
that banter at about the 22:00 mark about "huntmaster of the fails" was funny AF haha. too good.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor is only legal and is played in legacy.
Liliana of the Veil is played in standard, modern, and legacy.
Guruk Relentless is played in standard and a bit in legacy.
All the planeswalkers legal in standard see some play.
Jeroen Katgert has a point with Yasooka not bolting the Treetop Village until after it dealt damage to him in the same turn in G1. Also, around 12:20 Yasooka swung with a Snapcaster while Watanabe had Treetop Village on field, bolt in hand, and enough mana for both. Instead of trying to block with the Village, he just bolted Snappy right away. Are these misplays or am I crazy?
Yasooka didn't bolt the treetop in combat because he wanted to hold snapcaster-mana leak or snapcaster-cryptic for a possible tarmogoyf/liliana/confidant that Watanabe could play after combat. At 12:20 there was no treetop village in Watanabe's side of the board.
There are some cards that let you play multiple lands in a turn, such as Rites of Flourishing and Explore, but usually ramp spells are limited only to green.
19:45 I don't know Japanese but I thought he sighed "finally" at the end of that round.
i dont get Shouta Yasookas deck, 13 creatures in main and vial? also snapy and the faries with flash....? to know the meta would have been interessting...
1. Drawing Cards=more access to spells to answer with anything the opponent throws down.
2. Its not used in EVERY black deck, just the ones that need the extra boost.
3. In endgame situations, it prevents you from drawing lands (or at least you kill off two at one time).
4. A few damage is really insignificant and if its going to cost you, 1 toughness creatures aren't hard to get rid of.
5. It's still a 2 for a 2/1 which is good.
You should give it a go someday. It's a lot of fun. Start with the video games first if you don't want to fork out much money or have anyone to play with.
hello, i have a great problem here, anyone can explain me whats happen in this second ...
2012 Players Championship Finals: Shouta Yasooka vs. Yuuya Watanabe
why cryptic command counter tarmogoyf if this lose the target to up permanent Eternal Witness? ...... thats suppose the command will counter itself for losing its targets.
counter "Target" spe and rerurn "Targer permenant.
Jacob Ortiz the cryptic command has two targets , the spell in the stack and the eternal witness to bounce, it loses one so it does the best that he can, counter the spell, it will be countered if the modes were return witness and draw a card for example, and the witness is killed in response, because the spell has no valid targets any more.
I hate always going away in September... Means I miss the best prereleases... :/
I love that they put images of the sanctuary cat up on the side
it doesn't say that. No card does, mainly because you can't add a card to your mana pool. You add mana to your mana pool. That is what that card does. 1 Black or 1 Red mana, specifically.
I'm glad my rants are as entertaining to other people as they are ti me :D
A lot of what they're saying is advanced terminology for pro players that most of us casual players just ignore. These things will make more sense in time.
Welcome to magic ive been playing for 2 years and i miss half of modern
Whats the sound range on everyone else's computers? I turn my volume up a little bit and its completely fine...
A friend at church introduced me to this game, NOW I REALLY WANT TO GET A STARTER DECK AND START PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a complicated format to try to get into in the first place. It is called the modern format, and consists of cards, all the way back from eight edition (2003). The amount of knowlege you would need to fully understand this format is breathtakin, and at this level, with this pace... It is no wonder you are getting confused by it, i know i would, back in 2003.
This video is a bit too loud, could you please lower the volume the next time you record? My ear drums will never be the same, thank you.
In the Final match at 1:29:00 , when Shouta cast Clique in response to inquisition, he revealed BBE, Finks, and land.
Shouta took finks over BBE, why? 2 finks triggers is better then BBE and Lili coming down. I feel like he threw the game away on the play. Really wanted to see him win =[
You should try it, but I wouldn't start out with the format they're playing (Modern) because it is REALLY EXPENSIVE. I would recommend buying two intro packs and play with a friend and see if you like it. Hope you enjoy!
Now you only have to watch one of them :)
Why didn't yasuoka in the last match use his aether vial to put tharmogoyf and block watanabe's goyf?? Why did he take it in the face? I don't get it!
God, they are scary good. Intense play and was very interesting to watch.
i though the commentator was gonna make it so lame but that intro is quite epic got me pumped
yea same here,kind of interesting,i dont play any trading card games anymore but when i was younger it was yu gi oh or pokemon i never tried magic
Does fetch lands abilities go to the stack or not? In the beginning of the 4th match. Watanabe casts Inquisition of Kozilek and then Yasooka cracks his fetch and goes for the shock land. Then he responds to Inquisition with Mana Leak. Can he resolve the land ability and then answer the Iquisition that was on the stack?
Yes he can fetch in response then mana leak
+wolfie Baumgartner That's a bit weird because is playing the land ability, resolving it and then can cast other spell in response to the stack 1st stack :/
+Flávio Margato there is only 1 stack in mtg, this isnt yugioh.
It all has to do with priority he can fetch in response then pas priority to the other player but usually they don't so they can get their land and cast the mana leak it's VERY common
Thanks :)
I don't understand why olivia wasn't stealing the huntmaster before it transformed so it could kill tokens and deal damage?
start with something like frank lepore's videos maybe? its pretty rough to try and follow without being able to read the cards as they play them.
Don't worry man I had to wait a month and a half to fully understand this video... I feel your pain
you came to the video, solely to insult the people in it... tell me how fulfilling YOUR life is...
depends on the format: any set=vintage, last 2 blocks thing=standard
also another thing what is the fastest possible way to play allot of land fast. JW
Try using a side pack, take fifteen cards that are maybe not working well together and just alternate them with others when you need to.
Yeah I got ya. From what I notice it's all about speed/cards that do multiple things for you. Cards that have relatively low mana costs that are efficient enough to have multiple roles. I've seen people play goyf in both legacy and modern though, but eh; I wonder what people will be playing with in a year or two.
8 years later and they’ve kept playing it so far
There are various ways depending on the format you play but sticking to standard which is much simpler, pretty much the only way to play more than 1 land a turn is using ramp spells such as farseek/rampant growth would be the simplest example.
Why is this so quiet?
Vissna Voss they are always so damn quite!! lol
Volume is way to low. Please do something about this.
they are using card sleeves. it makes shuffling many times easier
Audio difficulties goddammit
you do realize that when they "bend" the cards which they don't, they shuffle by bending them up and down. that way the cards don't actually get bent, and most of the time they get shuffled in the corners to specifically prevent the entire card from getting bent so what you said is just stupid.
It's also modern and from a couple years ago. Pay attention mate.
can somone answer this i feel dumb asking but i was playing my friend and he said that he was allowed to play drowned catacomb and a basic land in the same turn is that really allowed.
Hello MrMtggamer. I have a question i hope you can help me out. I live in Chile so there is not much of a MTG culture here, but i have a few friends that play and i go to a couple of little tournaments. Could you advise me what is the best way to beat a red/black deck. Everybody down here is playing with does decks!
Why is there some cards that has golden border or silver border or like just a different coloured / symbol on borders??? and can you get those cards ?
i like how after he lost he kept the same face!
these players are fricking scary good
Congratulations to Watanabe! Well played, I must say!
Liliana sitting right there with 4 counters, commentator mentioning "Doesn't want to cast Clique-yet to dodge the Maelstrom pulse; Doesn't want to cast it despite the vial to dodge a potential second pulse"
...Good job.
Can anyone tell me what decks they are running? Decklists? thanks
I just found out that this thoughtsieze card that was gathering dust in the corner of my room is worth £20 in its lightly played condition. I've had it for 4 or 5 years now and not once did i think to check its value.
Modern, you can tell cause of Tarmo and Aether Vial which are cards for modern
Sleeves can make a 60 card deck look like 80. Adds a lot of thickness. But you can do cool deck shuffles..
The audio level is really ruining this for me.
I'm thinking of getting that stuff too, haven't played for maybe 8-9 years. I'm not sure if I will get value for the money though - i.e. that I will play enough until it's worth the money.
I'm sticking to the PC games on steam for now :)
because they're basically chess matches. There is a huge card pool. You have to sit and think constantly about what you can do vs. what your opponent can do. You can't see your opponents hand when you play so you have to play the mental game. ESPECIALLY with as much on the line as there is.