You use a stringless racquet stick to "snooker" the balls into holes, scoring one goal for every checkmate and two advantages for every set. The player with the most chips at the end of the round gets to play a tiebreaker of penalties. Jokers are wild and deuces are dangerous. Pretty simple stuff TBH.
@@Jimbo-90 That is over simplified, to say the least. You must strike a red ball first, if you don't it's a foul and your opponent gets to place the cue ball, within a defined area, before shooting (ball in hand). If you pocket a red, you may then shoot any other ball. Pocketing a red is worth one point, any other ball is worth the value, on the ball. Reds stay pocketed and numbered balls come out and get placed on a designated spot for that number. Pocketing the cue ball (white) is also a foul, regardless of the pocketing of any other ball in the same shot. After all red balls have been pocketed, the number balls must be struck, in ascending order of value. You are 'snookered' if you can not get a clear shot at an object ball.
I don't remember what tournament or what players had it, but I remember watching on Eurosport same thing happen roughly 9-12 years ago when I used to follow the sport more. Black stuck in corner, all reds (about 7 or so of them) all circled around it, neither player going for anything decisive. So after about 15 minutes, they simply reracked the frame. Was so odd to see
It's not bizarre, it's my favourite type of play. Lu was taking a few more risks than I probably would with some of his shots, but he's in a strong position to do so.
@@michaelgarrison688 Of course, it's all purely hypothetical as we'd never be in that position. I've played a ranked player before, at his peak he was like 19th in the UK. I potted once.
Seriously, why wouldn’t this Chen fellow just pot the black and try to get a snooker? Or just concede the frame? We’ve got better shit to do with our lives than watch you guys tap dance around this formation. Fuck, move on, bros!
@@cardigan3000 There isn't a deliberate foul in the rule book per se but for making this look like a game between Bob Chaperon V Eddie Charlton/Peter Ebdon...it should be worth chucked in.
Every one telling Lu take the penalty... I don't see the math. With Lu ahead 65-9, if he takes the penalty 7 and doesn't pot a red, he goes 65-16, 49 ahead, 51 remaining. He's opened the table and left enough points for Chen to win without snookers. If Chen takes penalty 7 at this point, 72-9 is 63 behind, even if no red goes in, 51 remaining, three snooker territory, pretty much concession, especially since this is frame 1, although it's a short match. If Chen takes penalty 7 AND pots a red, frame's over with 63 behind, 43 remaining.
@@acapitala4936 You obviously enjoy seeing the balls go in the hole. That is skill. Watch the clips that say 147 breaks and just enjoy the shooting prowess. As they say in British, enjoy the potting prowess.
Would he not be able to hit it in such a way to pot both the black and a red? Then whilst he takes a 7 point penalty, he also effectively removed 8 points potential from the board no?
I feel this would have been enthralling if both players were more even in the score line but 74 - 18 you would just throw in the towel at this point, 10/10 for determination though! He wasn't letting go, surprised he even conceded lol
He had no chance. Hes a sore loser. Most pros would've let it go. He needed two fouls. With balls the way they are even for pros its an uphill battle. And its the first match. That was just stupid
@@malkster99 yeah, but don't forget, its the same odds for the losing guy, he can make fouls too, which he did at the end. Even if he gets the maximum he still needs two fouls. He needs to be world class to pull it off, but judging by the quality of the ref that gave points to the wrong player multi times and have to be reminded by the players, its pretty clear they are not lol
From 20:23 Lu is 56 ahead with 51 left. If he deliberately pots both red and black (quite easy to do I think from some of these positions) - a foul - he will be 49 ahead with only 43 left which is - slightly! - better!
Yeah but without 51 in the left pot 50 and 49 would block 44 from dropping into center right, although at that point 53 is wide open to sneak in a full snook.
If you're saying that removing one of the reds and taking the foul would have helped end the frame sooner, then yes, I agree. In fact, he might have gotten two reds to drop! If you're saying that any foul on the black automatically ends the frame, that's not correct. It's only true if the black is the only ball left to hit on the table. A foul on the final ball ends the frame. But if he were already leading by more than 8 on the final ball, he could claim a win without hitting it anyway.
If he would have done that, at best it would have been a miss, with the balls replaced. At worst, it would be disqualification for making a deliberate foul.
@@renedekker9806 I don't understand what Calvin Chung is saying, but I don't understand your comment either. If you hit the red first the referee cannot call a miss, and if you hit the red first and knock the black in it would not be called as a deliberate foul. But going back to Calvin Chung's comment, I don't see why Lu would play that shot anyway when he was so far ahead. It just doesn't make sense to do that. Chen had his own opportunities to open the game up, or possibly force Lu into accidentally potting the black, but played the wrong shots. So many of the modern players are fantastic potters of the ball but don't understand the tactical side of the game.
@@peterlofts5958 I hope to simplify in another situation where you were leading 35 points with remaining a red ball jammed up touching a colour ball in front of a pocket. If you were to play screw shot, both balls will be potted and a foul will be called. By then, your opponent would need a snooker to level and/or to steal the frame.
Snooker is all about,Potting,Position and Safety.It is also about,when opportunities arise,do not let them go by.Snooker is a funny old game,you never know what will happen.
Anybody wanting to see the full game, I just found it on YT (search for Lu Chen 2022 snooker). It has no sound (well, just noise), but at least you’ll get to see the shot that led to this position, around 15 min from the start. Also, I didn’t understand it from this vid, but apparently the game was conceded.
@@Anonymous-gi6hw Player A Lu needs to pot red balls to win but the pocket is jammed up by the black ball. Player B Chen needs to pot red balls but he's already so far behind that he also needs to pot the black ball every time he pots a red ball but that black ball is jammed up by the red balls. It's not usually like this lol.
@@poojanpatel2437 is this why Chen never pockets ? I swear he had so many opportunities to pocket a red and I couldn't figure out why the hell he wouldn't
It would be a foul by the player who was last at the table. The next players visit starts when he strikes the cueball. The ball dropping in would be part of the last players shot.
@@robfinlay8058 Well yes exactly so are you saying the player whos turn it is next can just sit in his seat indefinetly in the event a ball is on the very edge in the hope it will drop in causing a foul for the player who has played the shot? One thing you said that "the players turn starts when he strikes the cueball" can very easily be disproved. Have you ever seen a clock appear on screen indicating how long a player has taken on a shot? It may run to 2-3 mins especially when attempting a difficult safety without the player ever striking a ball so his turn obviously does not start when he strikes the cueball. Everyones average shot times would be the almost the same in that case. A lot of it is down to sportsmanship and the ref but a players turn is over when all the balls are at rest and he hasnt potted or fouled, he then walks away from the table. If a ball falls into due to gravity while the next player is walking around the table having not caused it to fall in, it is replaced where it was. This is quite obvious otherwise if a red falls in would the player at the table now score 1 and be on a colour without having even struck the cueball? Or is it still the previous persons break even though he walked away from the table 3 mins ago, would he go "aaah thats mine"?
If a player makes a foul shot and then leaves the opponent with an unclear shot on a red then a coloured ball can be nominated as a red (it still scores 1 point and is then respotted). This is the scenario when a 155 maximum break can be achieved, giving a player an extra 1 + 7 (‘red’ + black) on top of the standard 147.
Two rams XD "You will foul!" "No, you will foul!" "Yes, you will foul!" "This will be your foul!" "You foul already!" "After you!" "Ladies first!" "That's why I let you do it!" "Shut up and foul!" "No, you shut up and foul!" 20 years later their grandsons keep this up XD
13:52 and Lu 56 ahead and 51 on the table and Lu refuses to take on the red onto red, pot the black... fowl but then only 43 left on the table but Lu is then 49 ahead and pretty much no way to lose the game! WTF is he on? Instead he fowls (13:52) and leaves a free ball! AS FOR TH EREFEREE... SAY NO MORE! 😂😆😆🤣🤣🤣 74-18 and he STILL doesn't pot the black! 22.35 conceeded... TFFT!
Not sure why he conceded the frame. He was only down to ten points arrear (three snookers), but with a virtually-guaranteed seven point foul left on the table with no red balls on even after the white runoff, that would have reduced it to a single snooker had Lu committed the foul on the black later on. Unless he was just tired of going on in the first game of the set, it would have been worth playing on.
I tried to follow this with normal speed but my mind was blown from the excitement with 2xspeed. With that adjustment the following videos had some next level entertainment going on. Strongly recommend flipping to the other side.
@@peterlofts5958 my understanding of what the OP suggested was at 9.16 to pot the black. The only way to do that would be deliberately hit the red onto the black. The referee maybe wouldn't spot it, and think it was just a bad safety, but the OP suggested deliberatley potting the black. That is forfeit frame
legend has it, that after this game, both player, the referee, and the audience quit the sport. note to the editor: you could have cut out the parts when no ball was moving.
Did the referee make an error when he called a miss at the 15:22 mark. Chen put Lu back behind the brown again but the difference was 51 with 51 on table so I thought a miss could not be called there. Also, to respond to Craig Lan below......Craig sorry to say you are not correct. If Lu did not get out of that snooker at the 15:22 mark he would have been put back multiple times, potentially I believe, like 25 times. If Lu fouls here by fluking the black it appears that a break of 24+9 was very probable. The bottom line is that Chen could have won this game. Lu made a strategic error much earlier when he could have gotten a red away from the pile and he did not.
Rules changed back 3 years ago I supposed where if gap score equal to remaining points on the table, a miss can be called. A miss cannot be called if score gap beyond remaining points or impossible snooker
But you are correct that Chen missed the open ball twice in a row but he got it on the 3rd time did he not? However I think the Ref did not warn him about losing the frame.
But actually I forgot to say that I am pretty sure that the ref can only call an open ball miss 3 times and award the frame if the white is shot from the same spot. So Lu had told Chen to "shoot again" from his new spot so the sequence starts again.
Sorry but the standard of play was well below professional Chen had at least 4 opportunities to put lu in trouble but he chose to play containing saftey instead
Hey! Hello there, I'm from the middle of the video. If you haven't watched the video yet, have you seen how long it is? It's longer than I thought it was, and by now, to be honest, I've had enough. Things haven't been as exciting as I thought they would be, and maybe things will get spicy in the second half, but I'm not going to make it. If you're from the end of the video, I hope it was worth it, while also at the same time I hope I didn't miss anything too spectacular.
Why didn't the referee warn Chen after 2 misses, and why the frame wasn't over after the 3rd miss? Am I missing something?
2 роки тому+7
Because when Chen failed to hit the red the second time the referee didn't call a miss. The 3-Miss Rule only applies when there is a Foul and a Miss, and after the 2nd miss Chen doesn't have enough points on the table to win, and in that situation you cannot call a miss. Hope I was clear enough :)
@ With all due respect. ua-cam.com/video/8TmTwzh6dbY/v-deo.html he did call a miss the second time. And if the reds are wide open in your sight and you miss them, how cannot that called a miss? Referee should've warned Chen for the second miss and ended the frame after his third miss. Edit (he called it a miss then withdrew the call). Anyway, THAT's a miss! Even if the score is less than the remaining points. That's my humble, yet strong, opinion.
I think it's because after the first miss, Lu made Chen play from where he ended up so it was technically only two foul strokes in a row then Lu played before third time so no warning? I'm not really sure but that's my guess about the rules haha
I would’ve played a professional foul…slow draggy games like this take all the momentum out of snooker, I do like a good solid game of snooker but this just takes the fun out of it, but like I said play the professional foul no damage done
Chen made a knucklehead standard thin hit to start this video and invited chaos, one measured shot on the same red back toward him, parking the cue upon the reds would truly have been a ballsie show of bottle, that if pulled off would give his opponents cause to rethink.
Is that not the case? The issue here is that wouldn't have guaranteed he finished on a good colour and then cleaned up the rest of the reds with blacks.
@@iamsum1gr8 No a nominated free ball must be hit first. If it was the opposite way around where the black was in front of a red that was over the pocket then it would be within the rules to play the black onto the red and pot the red.
"Take a penalty". After you foul, you can be ask to re-shoot. This may cause you to foul again causing you to shoot again. This could continue for days.
"Just one more quick game, I need to get back home".
Lol sounds like my dad
Peter Ebdon was involved in a similar frame back in 1991.
He hopes to finish it while he's still alive.
Underrated comment.
LOL
Every snooker video i watch has the same/ similar comment about Ebdon lol Never gonna live it down haha
He got a Chinese nickname"Mowang",which means "King of dawdling"
Rory Mcleod was slower but isn't as well known as Peter.
It's 3:30 am and I'm watching this. All of it. I need to get a life but what the hell, this'll do.
Liked your comment at 04:20 am. 😂😂😂
@@faizsyed9233 04:24 am here. Yes, I've gotta get my act together. Do you have any willpower or motivation pills on you?
It's 12.17am, I've do e 5 mins of it an binned it off. Fairplay on the full frame. Mind numbing.
@@TewkesburyBear OMG! You're not one of those with a life are you? 😏😆
03:41 while watching this, thanks for me not being the only one
blackball: "your probably wondering how i ended up in this situation"
The more i think about this comment, the dirtier it gets.
(Baba O'Riley by The Who slowly fades in as background music)
*you’re probably wondering
Yeah, I do! It looks like it's about to fall if you sneeze passing by. XD
15:50
idk whats happening but ive sat here for 22 minutes watching two guys hit red balls into each other not letting the black ball pot and i LOVE IT
This is what happens when an unmovable object meets an unmovable object.
Lmao
2 minutes into it I was still wondering where the hell the black ball was
😂😂
Is this what snooker is really like when you're not Ronnie O'Sullivan?
Pretty much yeah
He put the wrong five points on the scoreboard because he is Welsh,
Yes
Ну да, когда из искусства игры получается одно мучение. 🤥
Yep, a lot less tantrums and sulking like a baby.
I’ve watched like 20 snooker videos and I still can’t understand the rules. Not even a slight idea of how it works. Such a spectacular game.
For me it’s all about the white gloves
You use a stringless racquet stick to "snooker" the balls into holes, scoring one goal for every checkmate and two advantages for every set. The player with the most chips at the end of the round gets to play a tiebreaker of penalties. Jokers are wild and deuces are dangerous. Pretty simple stuff TBH.
@@darthkek1953 can't you get a home run too if the ball flies off the table?
@@Jimbo-90 That is over simplified, to say the least. You must strike a red ball first, if you don't it's a foul and your opponent gets to place the cue ball, within a defined area, before shooting (ball in hand). If you pocket a red, you may then shoot any other ball. Pocketing a red is worth one point, any other ball is worth the value, on the ball. Reds stay pocketed and numbered balls come out and get placed on a designated spot for that number. Pocketing the cue ball (white) is also a foul, regardless of the pocketing of any other ball in the same shot. After all red balls have been pocketed, the number balls must be struck, in ascending order of value. You are 'snookered' if you can not get a clear shot at an object ball.
@@Inexpressable only if it lands in the swimming pool.
I don't remember what tournament or what players had it, but I remember watching on Eurosport same thing happen roughly 9-12 years ago when I used to follow the sport more. Black stuck in corner, all reds (about 7 or so of them) all circled around it, neither player going for anything decisive. So after about 15 minutes, they simply reracked the frame. Was so odd to see
Maybe you mean this frame: ua-cam.com/video/WUFRi2X1WVY/v-deo.html
@@dannygjk Wtf is this aha ? I gonna watch this NOW !
I don't know why I watched this to the end, but I was silently enraged the entire time.
It's not bizarre, it's my favourite type of play. Lu was taking a few more risks than I probably would with some of his shots, but he's in a strong position to do so.
I would have continued to have Chen re-shoot. But in the end Chen conceded anyways.
@@michaelgarrison688 Of course, it's all purely hypothetical as we'd never be in that position.
I've played a ranked player before, at his peak he was like 19th in the UK. I potted once.
Are they playing jenga
No, These two morons make for a great game, in boring stupidity
Seriously, why wouldn’t this Chen fellow just pot the black and try to get a snooker? Or just concede the frame? We’ve got better shit to do with our lives than watch you guys tap dance around this formation. Fuck, move on, bros!
No commentary, no audience - HEAVEN!!!
Totally agree mate!...no coughing especially.
Why is this comment section so angry that two professionals are playing their sport at top level?
Agreed 👍
Lol, good one.
Because this clip gets recommend to a bunch of people who don't know or barely know snooker and thus have no clue what's going on here.
@@NotBroihonlol, you just got whooshed
@@edwells4769 no, not at all. Now go back to r/memes.
Referee: "someone pot the black already for god sake!"
referee in reality - "anyone puts that black in and i will do them for a deliberate foul"
@@cardigan3000 There isn't a deliberate foul in the rule book per se but for making this look like a game between Bob Chaperon V Eddie Charlton/Peter Ebdon...it should be worth chucked in.
Imagine if one of the players had been Peter Ebdon. They’d still be playing this frame now
If it was Ebdon playing, the whole 22 minutes of the video would have been him looking at the possible first shot 😂
Oh my god, so amazing. I can hardly contain myself from the excitement. Am I dreaming? This can't be real.
Is Zeus your God?
boring.
Some like the tactical play in this kind of stuff
@@surlescimes ur sooooo cool :)))
Sarcasm,I love it😀👍🏻
Every one telling Lu take the penalty... I don't see the math. With Lu ahead 65-9, if he takes the penalty 7 and doesn't pot a red, he goes 65-16, 49 ahead, 51 remaining. He's opened the table and left enough points for Chen to win without snookers.
If Chen takes penalty 7 at this point, 72-9 is 63 behind, even if no red goes in, 51 remaining, three snooker territory, pretty much concession, especially since this is frame 1, although it's a short match. If Chen takes penalty 7 AND pots a red, frame's over with 63 behind, 43 remaining.
I have no knowledge of this game. I don't even know why I'm here. And your comment sounds like an entirely different language rn.
@@acapitala4936 same
After that all would be returned to the previous position and Chen would let Lu play the same position again I think.
@@acapitala4936 You obviously enjoy seeing the balls go in the hole. That is skill. Watch the clips that say 147 breaks and just enjoy the shooting prowess. As they say in British, enjoy the potting prowess.
Would he not be able to hit it in such a way to pot both the black and a red?
Then whilst he takes a 7 point penalty, he also effectively removed 8 points potential from the board no?
Chen: What a wonderful day for a game of snooker!
Black ball: Think again.
This is my brother and I on our first visit to the snooker club for a year or so except theres no black ball covering the pocket 🙈
My 1st ever frame of snooker when I was 7 finished at a score of about 239 - 117 lmao
My employer: you will have plenty of options after this job.
My options:
Chen raised my blood pressure to its limits!
I feel this would have been enthralling if both players were more even in the score line but 74 - 18 you would just throw in the towel at this point, 10/10 for determination though! He wasn't letting go, surprised he even conceded lol
With 3 reds there are 51 possible points left to score. With the possibility of foul points the game is not necessarily decided.
"would have", not "would of".
@@7ebr830 You're not fun at parties
He had no chance. Hes a sore loser. Most pros would've let it go. He needed two fouls. With balls the way they are even for pros its an uphill battle. And its the first match. That was just stupid
@@malkster99 yeah, but don't forget, its the same odds for the losing guy, he can make fouls too, which he did at the end. Even if he gets the maximum he still needs two fouls. He needs to be world class to pull it off, but judging by the quality of the ref that gave points to the wrong player multi times and have to be reminded by the players, its pretty clear they are not lol
I thought the referee was going to win the frame at one point, lol.
Yeah i though if you foul and miss 3 in a row when you can see a red full ball then the frame is awarded to the opponent.
@@craigmonty There weren't three foul and misses at any stage. Some of the fouls weren't misses because Chen needed snookers.
From 20:23 Lu is 56 ahead with 51 left. If he deliberately pots both red and black (quite easy to do I think from some of these positions) - a foul - he will be 49 ahead with only 43 left which is - slightly! - better!
Yeah but without 51 in the left pot 50 and 49 would block 44 from dropping into center right, although at that point 53 is wide open to sneak in a full snook.
My head exploded now.
I'm drunk but doesn't it mean that it's Chen who will snooker him easily then?
Back in 2056 I remember how this frame ends.
seems as though Lu should have made his 20 minute move 10 minutes earlier
Yeah.. guy is annoying as hell
The game can be ended sooner if Lu pot both red and black and still maintaining lead of 6 points
What ?
If you're saying that removing one of the reds and taking the foul would have helped end the frame sooner, then yes, I agree. In fact, he might have gotten two reds to drop!
If you're saying that any foul on the black automatically ends the frame, that's not correct. It's only true if the black is the only ball left to hit on the table. A foul on the final ball ends the frame. But if he were already leading by more than 8 on the final ball, he could claim a win without hitting it anyway.
If he would have done that, at best it would have been a miss, with the balls replaced. At worst, it would be disqualification for making a deliberate foul.
@@renedekker9806 I don't understand what Calvin Chung is saying, but I don't understand your comment either. If you hit the red first the referee cannot call a miss, and if you hit the red first and knock the black in it would not be called as a deliberate foul. But going back to Calvin Chung's comment, I don't see why Lu would play that shot anyway when he was so far ahead. It just doesn't make sense to do that. Chen had his own opportunities to open the game up, or possibly force Lu into accidentally potting the black, but played the wrong shots. So many of the modern players are fantastic potters of the ball but don't understand the tactical side of the game.
@@peterlofts5958 I hope to simplify in another situation where you were leading 35 points with remaining a red ball jammed up touching a colour ball in front of a pocket. If you were to play screw shot, both balls will be potted and a foul will be called. By then, your opponent would need a snooker to level and/or to steal the frame.
Griffith vs Davis were some of the best matches I ever watched. Tactical, and a frame running past the hour mark. That is what Snooker is all about.
Что там вообще происходит??
welp.. this is probably a lot more interesting if you know the exact rules of Snooker.
I only the basics so...
7 point foul if the black falls in after hitting a red. That's what they were trying to avoid and trying to cause the other player to do.
The best part was when the asian guy hit the lonely red ball back to his friends to be reunited
Legend says the game has been playing for 10 decades.
Snooker is all about,Potting,Position and
Safety.It is also about,when opportunities
arise,do not let them go by.Snooker is a
funny old game,you never know what will
happen.
You don't have to hit enter to start a new line. It starts a new one automatically. You can just type.
@@B3Band I thought it was a haiku when I first read it
Snooker is all about precision, planning, oh and did I mention endurance?
Anybody wanting to see the full game, I just found it on YT (search for Lu Chen 2022 snooker). It has no sound (well, just noise), but at least you’ll get to see the shot that led to this position, around 15 min from the start. Also, I didn’t understand it from this vid, but apparently the game was conceded.
yes, you see the concession at the very end when the yellow ball is pushed
This isn't bizarre, this is what how snooker should be played! Yes it's boring for some ppl, but it is what it is
For me it's a bit boring to watch but as a player, I absolutely love these situations. It's a chance to get creative and pull of crazy shots
Not boring at all. Boring is watching the usual players just pot balls. Unique situations like this make it interesting.
8:32 am i mad or that black ball just defys physics to stay on the table
Very bizarre. I've never seen anything like it. Good play from both.
can you explain whats going on
@@Anonymous-gi6hw Player A Lu needs to pot red balls to win but the pocket is jammed up by the black ball.
Player B Chen needs to pot red balls but he's already so far behind that he also needs to pot the black ball every time he pots a red ball but that black ball is jammed up by the red balls.
It's not usually like this lol.
Now this is snooker at its finest. So fun to watch, love it!
This anything but snooker. They hoping on each other’s miss in really useless shot tbh
@@poojanpatel2437 is this why Chen never pockets ? I swear he had so many opportunities to pocket a red and I couldn't figure out why the hell he wouldn't
Miserable more like
@@unsettling_ad same
@@unsettling_ad These 2 have just been suspended for match fixing. That could have been part of the issue with not potting available shots.
I much prefer watching frames like this over a player making a century break.
both are interesting ;)
Same here!
Same! This is proper Working Man’s Snooker!
Anyone else waiting for that bizzare snooker even though you don't know what it is?
Legend has it in a parallel universe the frame is still going.
The referee was all over the place, probably just struggling to stay awake.
With the black ball hanging precariously over the pocket, what is the rule if a ball drops into a pocket inbetween shots?
@Jojo Rabbit And by replaced, it just gets replaced on the lip of the pocket, not respotted in this instance.
It would be a foul by the player who was last at the table. The next players visit starts when he strikes the cueball. The ball dropping in would be part of the last players shot.
@@robfinlay8058 Nah, ball gets replaced as the other two above comments say.
@@jameswest4692 That is incorrect. Where would the cutoff point between shots be if what your are saying was correct?
@@robfinlay8058 Well yes exactly so are you saying the player whos turn it is next can just sit in his seat indefinetly in the event a ball is on the very edge in the hope it will drop in causing a foul for the player who has played the shot?
One thing you said that "the players turn starts when he strikes the cueball" can very easily be disproved.
Have you ever seen a clock appear on screen indicating how long a player has taken on a shot? It may run to 2-3 mins especially when attempting a difficult safety without the player ever striking a ball so his turn obviously does not start when he strikes the cueball.
Everyones average shot times would be the almost the same in that case.
A lot of it is down to sportsmanship and the ref but a players turn is over when all the balls are at rest and he hasnt potted or fouled, he then walks away from the table. If a ball falls into due to gravity while the next player is walking around the table having not caused it to fall in, it is replaced where it was.
This is quite obvious otherwise if a red falls in would the player at the table now score 1 and be on a colour without having even struck the cueball? Or is it still the previous persons break even though he walked away from the table 3 mins ago, would he go "aaah thats mine"?
14:15 What, the guy did not get any red ball and he is somehow allowed to go for green/brown. Can someone explain me the rules?
If a player makes a foul shot and then leaves the opponent with an unclear shot on a red then a coloured ball can be nominated as a red (it still scores 1 point and is then respotted). This is the scenario when a 155 maximum break can be achieved, giving a player an extra 1 + 7 (‘red’ + black) on top of the standard 147.
I feel like I've entered a parallel universe where pool is played like this. I was very confused at first as I never heard of Snooker
now go and search for English billiards u will enter another parallel universe
Ok
Now I know why I don't see this played in a bar. Been a fight by now
Two rams XD
"You will foul!"
"No, you will foul!"
"Yes, you will foul!"
"This will be your foul!"
"You foul already!"
"After you!"
"Ladies first!"
"That's why I let you do it!"
"Shut up and foul!"
"No, you shut up and foul!"
20 years later their grandsons keep this up XD
Me who's never seen snooker before but had this show up in their YT recommendations: "Hmm. Fascinating."
So many points given away from Chen
This is legit the best frame of snooker I have ever seen.
Chen could've won if he stayed cool tho
*8:47** - **10:05** почему судья не засчитал проигрыш фрейма, ведь соперник не попал по красному, который виден 3 раза подряд?!*
i was wondering why the audience didn't applaud the escape around 16:20. then i realised they're all asleep.
Show us the whole frame from the start,this was awesome.
Mate he's just clipping the exciting highlights.
Mike Ehrmantraut casually refereeing a snooker match
Waltuh, put your cue away waltuh
am i the only one that thinks the refs little score remote is really cool
100%
Guess that’s what happens when they don’t think the game is important enough to employ someone in the box to do it 😂
I have no idea wtf I just watched, but I watched the whole 22 minutes of it ffs
13:52 and Lu 56 ahead and 51 on the table and Lu refuses to take on the red onto red, pot the black... fowl but then only 43 left on the table but Lu is then 49 ahead and pretty much no way to lose the game! WTF is he on? Instead he fowls (13:52) and leaves a free ball! AS FOR TH EREFEREE... SAY NO MORE! 😂😆😆🤣🤣🤣
74-18 and he STILL doesn't pot the black!
22.35 conceeded... TFFT!
this was kinda troll tbh lol
This is awesome. This is why snooker is such an amazing game.
I use this clip as a sleep aid.
Unironically it is really relaxing
Not sure why he conceded the frame. He was only down to ten points arrear (three snookers), but with a virtually-guaranteed seven point foul left on the table with no red balls on even after the white runoff, that would have reduced it to a single snooker had Lu committed the foul on the black later on. Unless he was just tired of going on in the first game of the set, it would have been worth playing on.
I tried to follow this with normal speed but my mind was blown from the excitement with 2xspeed. With that adjustment the following videos had some next level entertainment going on. Strongly recommend flipping to the other side.
This is the most passive-aggressive snooker game I have ever seen... And I have probably watched about ten snooker games ever.
9:16 Instead of chucking five points away, it would be worth belting the black in for seven away and get on with the game.
deliberate foul loses frame
No it wouldn't, he would have gone 54 points behind with 51 remaining, and left the reds on.
@@TheSudsy It wouldn't have been a deliberate foul, but he would have effectively given the frame up.
@@peterlofts5958 my understanding of what the OP suggested was at 9.16 to pot the black. The only way to do that would be deliberately hit the red onto the black. The referee maybe wouldn't spot it, and think it was just a bad safety, but the OP suggested deliberatley potting the black. That is forfeit frame
@@TheSudsy Perhaps it's pedantic but there is no such thing as a deliberate foul in snooker. The referee could consider it unsporting conduct.
I love Snooker.. I started playing 3yrs back. I am loving it. Germany 🇩🇪.
Given the free ball situation midway through do the rules allow a player to sink the black off one of the reds?
No. It's not pool, you have to make first contact with the ball you select
@@purpleaki06 is this the case even when a red goes on to another red btw?
I don't think I could play a game where a strange man stands a few inches behind me.
Ronnie would love this!
Selby
It's a shame both of these guys have been suspended for match fixing.
Lu played that really really well. Especially the escape at 15:50.
That was one of the best shots I've ever seen easily
I know nothing about snooker, but you. Know it’s boring when the ref gets getting out the tv remote to change the channel.
legend has it, that after this game, both player, the referee, and the audience quit the sport.
note to the editor: you could have cut out the parts when no ball was moving.
No frames on the board. No need for boring play. Even when a chance came around to pot a red, they did not. What a shambles.
Did the referee make an error when he called a miss at the 15:22 mark. Chen put Lu back behind the brown again but the difference was 51 with 51 on table so I thought a miss could not be called there. Also, to respond to Craig Lan below......Craig sorry to say you are not correct. If Lu did not get out of that snooker at the 15:22 mark he would have been put back multiple times, potentially I believe, like 25 times. If Lu fouls here by fluking the black it appears that a break of 24+9 was very probable. The bottom line is that Chen could have won this game. Lu made a strategic error much earlier when he could have gotten a red away from the pile and he did not.
Rules changed back 3 years ago I supposed where if gap score equal to remaining points on the table, a miss can be called. A miss cannot be called if score gap beyond remaining points or impossible snooker
Just asking,Chen missed 3 foul shot,( no snooker involved )not hit the red ball 3 times straight..are Chen could lose the frame?
@@manjago9821 No it has to be an open ball miss where you can see 100% of any cherry, then if you miss any red 3 times in a row you lose.
But you are correct that Chen missed the open ball twice in a row but he got it on the 3rd time did he not? However I think the Ref did not warn him about losing the frame.
But actually I forgot to say that I am pretty sure that the ref can only call an open ball miss 3 times and award the frame if the white is shot from the same spot. So Lu had told Chen to "shoot again" from his new spot so the sequence starts again.
This is undoubtedly the most constipated game of snooker I've ever witnessed. If I were a doctor I would have ordered a disimpaction and an enema.
Sorry but the standard of play was well below professional Chen had at least 4 opportunities to put lu in trouble but he chose to play containing saftey instead
This was awful
This is what you call BORING.
And I’m not calling it a sport.
And after that torture he concedes, unbelievable xdxd
can’t believe he didn’t take on the pot at 21:06. could have won him the frame. way too passive.
Agreed.
me trolling on 8ball pool (the mobile game) be like:
That’s 22 minutes of my life I won’t get back.
Hey! Hello there, I'm from the middle of the video. If you haven't watched the video yet, have you seen how long it is? It's longer than I thought it was, and by now, to be honest, I've had enough. Things haven't been as exciting as I thought they would be, and maybe things will get spicy in the second half, but I'm not going to make it. If you're from the end of the video, I hope it was worth it, while also at the same time I hope I didn't miss anything too spectacular.
Non-Snooker fans would think the black was the annoying ball, but it was that damn yellow.
Wat a Frame 🤣😂🙊
😱 Which frame???
A shame to think game was probably fixed. We need to make sure snooker isn’t influenced by Chinese triads
Why didn't the referee warn Chen after 2 misses, and why the frame wasn't over after the 3rd miss? Am I missing something?
Because when Chen failed to hit the red the second time the referee didn't call a miss. The 3-Miss Rule only applies when there is a Foul and a Miss, and after the 2nd miss Chen doesn't have enough points on the table to win, and in that situation you cannot call a miss. Hope I was clear enough :)
@ With all due respect. ua-cam.com/video/8TmTwzh6dbY/v-deo.html he did call a miss the second time. And if the reds are wide open in your sight and you miss them, how cannot that called a miss? Referee should've warned Chen for the second miss and ended the frame after his third miss.
Edit (he called it a miss then withdrew the call). Anyway, THAT's a miss! Even if the score is less than the remaining points. That's my humble, yet strong, opinion.
@@talalzh1144 The "bizarre" part of this is Chen not throwing in the towel even if the ref didn't.
I think it's because after the first miss, Lu made Chen play from where he ended up so it was technically only two foul strokes in a row then Lu played before third time so no warning? I'm not really sure but that's my guess about the rules haha
@@talalzh1144 it can be your strong and humble opinion all night long. But that’s not the what the rules say
When you don't score a single point in 15 minutes instead trying to leach of fouls... You see right away what level of snooker this is.
I would’ve played a professional foul…slow draggy games like this take all the momentum out of snooker, I do like a good solid game of snooker but this just takes the fun out of it, but like I said play the professional foul no damage done
Eh, not much of a spectator sport at this stage in the competition. Better to try and survive.
Isn't a deliberate foul a lost frame?
What professional foul ?
Well that’s unsportsmanlike conduct, fiddling around with a man’s game as if you had a chance - all in order to concede after the new year.
Should have been a re-rack way before all this ended regardless of the score.
Why would Lu agree to a re rack?
The ghost of Eddie Charlton would applaud these players'' level of play.
Holy Moly, and I thought Golf was BORING!
Not all snooker ends this way. It's just cause the remaining reds were gathered round a blocked pocket
This was extremely frustrating to watch. I almost conceded and I’m not even playing
Chen made a knucklehead standard thin hit to start this video and invited chaos, one measured shot on the same red back toward him, parking the cue upon the reds would truly have been a ballsie show of bottle, that if pulled off would give his opponents cause to rethink.
❤00l0pp00p0
I think in cases like this if a free ball is awarded then it should be allowed to play the red onto the black and pot it as a red.
Is that not the case? The issue here is that wouldn't have guaranteed he finished on a good colour and then cleaned up the rest of the reds with blacks.
@@iamsum1gr8 No a nominated free ball must be hit first. If it was the opposite way around where the black was in front of a red that was over the pocket then it would be within the rules to play the black onto the red and pot the red.
Fascinating
Except it isn't ...
Save yourself some time and stop scrolling down. Most people there got really confused with the rules.
"Take a penalty". After you foul, you can be ask to re-shoot. This may cause you to foul again causing you to shoot again. This could continue for days.
If you’ve ever been to a house auction with two Chinese going at it, you’ve seen this dance before
Or a mahjong game.
Legend says, the black is still trapped at the corner pocket.
I don’t know anything about snooker but this is riveting