Nah, Bob, it's not just you with those pesky half diminisheds! I've been trying to get myself to think minor triad a minor third up from the root of the m7b5 for a while now. Who needs the root of the half diminished? It's gonna be the 5th of the V chord (not altered, obviously). The minor triad is so strong melodically. So is the major triad built on the b5 of the half dim! And that kinda leads into a triad pair thing ...like Fmaj and Emaj, in this example. Stan...what a monster. Thanks for pointing this out! Once again you jarred me old brain stem....
Thank you bob, guitar player here. I learn so much from these videos, also great talking to you when I’ve seen you at the baked potato. Really appreciate these…
Bob, this is so rich with process and the beauty of building language in some of the best ways possible - and still good old school imo. Forwarded this to my students 🙏🏼❤️
Thank you Bob, you are absolutely right. I think that we can also try to grab "Stan's improvising logic" by listening and learning phrases, and "ideas" that way. Your vlogs pushed me to start my own channel to share my passion about jazz and improvisation.
Thanks for every video. If you are curious and want to hear you "on octaver" this is a solo by you that I transcribed and played on baritone ua-cam.com/video/m0OMp-QC1CI/v-deo.htmlsi=G9cYg5sBn9FkDwMD
I really like the sound you are getting on this Link. I played an 8* for about 25 years then I dropped it getting off the stage on concrete on the tip from about 6 feet. Needless to say, I haven't found another one like it. Almost all my favourite tenor players played those pieces from the bop era and I have tried six different pieces since trying to get the vibe. Even a 7* star piece I borrowed from a friend and just can't find it again. I now have an Aaron Drake NY piece very expensive and have come close. Anyway, keep working on that piece because you sound great using it. Just my opinion anyway thanks! By the way, I always play along with recordings like you are doing too! I am a singer as well and do the same thing. Cheers
This has answered the exact question I had on ‘how to learn real time quoting’. Exactly the video I was looking for… Into the shed… will be back with the progress report
I'm sure you've heard it, but one of my favorite recordings of Stan is the album with Oscar Peterson's trio. Every track on that album is absolutely incredible, Stan's tone is spectacular. I transcribed quite a bit of that album on soprano trying to emulate his tenor sound on the soprano and it was so beneficial. Love the videos!
Bob. You got to try a Jody Jazz DV mouthpiece. Very free blowing. Great tone for jazz, smooth jazz, and fusion. Altissimo just pops in. Great for studio as well as live. Best I have ever played! BTW. Thanks for the lesson.
Always great content! I can't express all the value and inspiration I get from your videos Bob! Thank you so much for being so generous! Best regards from Argentina! 🇦🇷
DEFINITELY something about hearing you blow a metal Link that in my oh so humble opinion is missing when you play hard rubber/resin/plasteek or whatever.... It's your destiny, Luke. ;-)
Bob, thanks for sharing your process! Your quest for the mouthpiece is an interesting opposing example to that concept that one always sounds like oneself independently from the mpc… even at your top pro level. Regards!
Thanks Bob, excellent point. I do this quite often, and you put the right words on it. Btw, the NYs have slightly larger chambers than the stock STM. To my ears, you sound pretty cool on that piece.
OMG ! Loved it. I don't know why but I was laughing so hard. Like listening to Getz in an echo chamber. Gave me some new ideas for practice. Thank you. BTW. Your so😂😂und was fantastic.
Dear Goldilocks….. you will figure it out and when you do it will be juuuuuuuust right. 😊. Great stuff, Bob. I have so much trouble. I got pieces of Flamenco Sketches, but it’s hard to hang on to it. Anyway….. my concert season is almost over and I can really dig into jazz over the summer. See you soon. In the meantime, always love the vids.
I think that mouthpiece is like the fender Precision Bass of the mouthpiece. it just seats so well in the mix when you play along the Tracks. I loved it. That mouthpiece did it for me. I could hear you for ever if play that mouthpiece. my two cents. great job Bob. Please let's comment on the mouthpiece I think Bob will be surprised. Let's run the poll right now. lol
Great lesson to freely play along and pick up ideas. Some of us may want to start with a 60 BPM tune, though! You sound great on the Link, even if you don't prefer the "STM" core. I have a FL Link STM that I played for 40 years and recently decided the "STM" sound wasn't for me, either. Still a great mouthpiece to play on occasion, though.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not Team Modern STM (never found a good new Link without refacing), but there's just something so "right" about seeing you play it with the (admittedly shit but) iconic single screw lig. Mmmm. Just looks so perfect on your VI, playing that music. I'm so conditioned to seeing it on so many classic album covers (Trane Lush Life, ZT's Blues, Schizophrenia, Crescent, yada yada). Sorry, kinda irrelevant comment, but this video is awesome as well btw! 😊
@@bobreynolds I’ve played my Florida 8* Link for 20 years and love it. That doesn’t help you though of course. My understanding is that every Link, old or new, should be refaced before seriously considering it, so I dunno, for $150 might be worth doing it on your NY 9 and see what happens. I’m sure you’ve got a Rovner or Selmer lig lying around that’ll fit too. I guess I’m just compassionate to your sitch, but I don’t have any answers man! It’ll work out. 🙏🏻
Awesome vid! Thanks Bob, i do something maybe similar. I like to practice impro sometimes with the radio, is cool because you never know what chords are coming, or changes in the song. I don't do it to jazz but i think is a similar approach. The better when you don't know the songs. I will try this idea seems very logical!
Great video Bob, what concenrs me using that technique is that I don't think my ears are not well developed yet, I might think I'm hearing a note and playing it wrong. So my tracing wouldn't be as accurate. I think I can try that with simpler melodies. 😊
Great idea. Thanks for that. You're right, I bore myself when it's just a backing track and me. Technical question: what do you hear in your headphones? The recording only or the recording plus yourself? If the latter, what's the setup for that?
How do you work to on make sure that You have a nice balance of downbeats? I started this type of practice when I was working on tailgating as a trombone player in New Orleans Jazz and let it bleed over into my real book practice. I find that Sometimes I don't play enough phrases that start on downbeats. I was wondering if you have strategies for that? It involves too much listening to the baseline down beats and responding and not enough hearing of the melody in my head beforehand and planning. You did mention this is for songs that you know well. So I understand that part of the correction of this predictable behavior. Thank you very much.
I’ve been told by someone way more studied than I, that is better sharp than flat (not sure what your take is on that). Bob, your playing sounds great to me. I notice whenever I have a tuner up and I’m listening to Dexter, Getz or Rollins, they tend to be fairly over the place tuning-wise. Does anyone think it might be an unreasonable standard to apply to a saxophonist that we always be in tune perfectly at all times? There are only so many octave vents in the design of the horn…
You're not wrong, and some variation is normal and expected, but here I felt WAY off compared to what I am accustomed to. Part of it is the very different character of this size metal and length.
I don’t think it’s an unreasonable standard to apply to saxophonists at all because if other instrumentalists can play perfectly in tune (not just other instrumentalists but also other saxophonists) then we just have to try harder. This is just what I’ve been taught and go through still but: A classical saxophonist is expected to be in tune 600% of the time. There is not one instance ever that any note should be out of tune unless the composer has indicated. You pull up a tuner when a professional classical saxophonist is playing and they would pretty much never be all over the place unless they are adjusting for what note they play inside a chord as equal temperament has inherent intonation problems (I.e major 3rs are very sharp). I could be wrong but I don’t think that this same standard applies to jazz saxophonists. Having listened to many jazz sax greats, their intonation, whether it be by artistic choice, bad instrument, inability to play in tune or because they don’t care - I personally find it extremely difficult to listen to and only put up with it to transcribe language I like. But that’s just my opinion
Hi Bob- you're sounding great on the OL ... but it's not you ...; I found the best mp ever (after trying some Florida metal OLs) for me from Phil Engleman: the "Intrepid" from Phil-Tone. It's worth to give it a try. Phil knows really well what he i s doing.
Hé Bob, did you already try a Jody Jazz Custom Dark mouthpiece? I found that after my Otto Link Tone Edge didn't sound so good anymore the Jody Jazz is wonderfull.
This was great advice! What did I (we?) miss re: the mouthpiece situation? Did you have one you loved that broke/got lost? Just curious what started the search... and wishing ALL the luck that you find one you love! (Hint: tell all the major companies you want to do a shootout in a video so you can test them all for free! I'd watch that! I did a 10 piece bari sax shootout, but didn't bother to film it (because I don't have a channel!), but should have. Even now *I* wonder what I thought about some of them in the moment!)
@@bobreynolds OK, never mind my 7 month-late advice to have a mouthpiece shootout! Watching now... though now that I know you're still not happy, it feels like I'll be let down by it! :D
I’ve tried a metal Link and didn’t like the feel of it in my mouth. Have you tried a Theo Wanne Slant Sig rubber piece? For me it checked all the boxes. I get the warm tones on the bottom, solid altissimo, and can “put an edge” on it for blues or rock if I want. I play an 8 and it gives me the versatility I want. Of course, each to his own.
Here's the course inside my Virtual Studio lessons.bobreynoldsmusic.com/module-7/ill-remember-april-1/
This guy signed my pineapple
Someone once said " I'd rather be sharp than out of tune" 😅 the link sounds great.
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Nah, Bob, it's not just you with those pesky half diminisheds! I've been trying to get myself to think minor triad a minor third up from the root of the m7b5 for a while now. Who needs the root of the half diminished? It's gonna be the 5th of the V chord (not altered, obviously). The minor triad is so strong melodically. So is the major triad built on the b5 of the half dim! And that kinda leads into a triad pair thing ...like Fmaj and Emaj, in this example. Stan...what a monster. Thanks for pointing this out! Once again you jarred me old brain stem....
Thank you bob, guitar player here. I learn so much from these videos, also great talking to you when I’ve seen you at the baked potato. Really appreciate these…
This is something I’ve been advocating for ages. It teaches so much and is super fun!
Like the idea of following along with our heroes for the purpose of learning. Brilliant.
Gold.Thank you 1000 times Bob.
Bob, this is so rich with process and the beauty of building language in some of the best ways possible - and still good old school imo. Forwarded this to my students 🙏🏼❤️
Thank you Bob, you are absolutely right. I think that we can also try to grab "Stan's improvising logic" by listening and learning phrases, and "ideas" that way. Your vlogs pushed me to start my own channel to share my passion about jazz and improvisation.
that's so cool to hear.
Thanks for every video. If you are curious and want to hear you "on octaver" this is a solo by you that I transcribed and played on baritone
ua-cam.com/video/m0OMp-QC1CI/v-deo.htmlsi=G9cYg5sBn9FkDwMD
Thank you for an awesome and practical real-world ear-training exercise!!! I love the term tracing!
I really like the sound you are getting on this Link. I played an 8* for about 25 years then I dropped it getting off the stage on concrete on the tip from about 6 feet. Needless to say, I haven't found another one like it. Almost all my favourite tenor players played those pieces from the bop era and I have tried six different pieces since trying to get the vibe. Even a 7* star piece I borrowed from a friend and just can't find it again. I now have an Aaron Drake NY piece very expensive and have come close. Anyway, keep working on that piece because you sound great using it. Just my opinion anyway thanks! By the way, I always play along with recordings like you are doing too! I am a singer as well and do the same thing. Cheers
This has answered the exact question I had on ‘how to learn real time quoting’. Exactly the video I was looking for… Into the shed… will be back with the progress report
I should have titled it that ☺️
The sound of the mouthpiece you using there is just beautiful.
i don't think it's the mouthpiece
@@Scaar81 Oh, OK. It sounded so beautiful to me. I like that mouthpiece.
@@erlinggarcia3035 20% mouthpiece, 80% Bob
Really helpful! Thanks for the video
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I'm sure you've heard it, but one of my favorite recordings of Stan is the album with Oscar Peterson's trio. Every track on that album is absolutely incredible, Stan's tone is spectacular. I transcribed quite a bit of that album on soprano trying to emulate his tenor sound on the soprano and it was so beneficial. Love the videos!
Yup. That's a 'desert island' album for me.
I have a course around it ;) lessons.bobreynoldsmusic.com/module-1/pennies-from-heaven-5/
@@bobreynolds LOVE IT
I spent my a good portion of my undergrad studying this album. I absolutely love it!
Bob. You got to try a Jody Jazz DV mouthpiece. Very free blowing. Great tone for jazz, smooth jazz, and fusion. Altissimo just pops in. Great for studio as well as live. Best I have ever played! BTW. Thanks for the lesson.
Always great content! I can't express all the value and inspiration I get from your videos Bob! Thank you so much for being so generous!
Best regards from Argentina! 🇦🇷
Sascha is a wonderful player as are you Bob.
Hey Bob! Long time man. I didn't clock that you were playing a metal piece until you mentioned it. You still sound like you! Haha.
Thank you for your insights. I pick my alto and try to figure with you.
Awesome! Keep going!
DEFINITELY something about hearing you blow a metal Link that in my oh so humble opinion is missing when you play hard rubber/resin/plasteek or whatever....
It's your destiny, Luke. ;-)
Bob, thanks for sharing your process!
Your quest for the mouthpiece is an interesting opposing example to that concept that one always sounds like oneself independently from the mpc… even at your top pro level.
Regards!
No one ever played more melodically than Stan Getz!
Thanks Bob, excellent point. I do this quite often, and you put the right words on it. Btw, the NYs have slightly larger chambers than the stock STM. To my ears, you sound pretty cool on that piece.
Skills. Very Getz
I love your sound with this mouthpiece Bob!
Don't give up on the new york just yet, you sound great
I have one too, an 8*, it has been my dream ever since I started playing the tenor
Aaaand it's the coolest looking mouthpiece ever, come on! 😎
You sound great on this Link. It’s a keeper IMO.
OMG ! Loved it. I don't know why but I was laughing so hard. Like listening to Getz in an echo chamber. Gave me some new ideas for practice. Thank you. BTW. Your so😂😂und was fantastic.
Dear Goldilocks….. you will figure it out and when you do it will be juuuuuuuust right. 😊. Great stuff, Bob. I have so much trouble. I got pieces of Flamenco Sketches, but it’s hard to hang on to it. Anyway….. my concert season is almost over and I can really dig into jazz over the summer. See you soon. In the meantime, always love the vids.
I think that mouthpiece is like the fender Precision Bass of the mouthpiece. it just seats so well in the mix when you play along the Tracks. I loved it. That mouthpiece did it for me. I could hear you for ever if play that mouthpiece. my two cents. great job Bob. Please let's comment on the mouthpiece I think Bob will be surprised. Let's run the poll right now. lol
Great lesson to freely play along and pick up ideas. Some of us may want to start with a 60 BPM tune, though! You sound great on the Link, even if you don't prefer the "STM" core. I have a FL Link STM that I played for 40 years and recently decided the "STM" sound wasn't for me, either. Still a great mouthpiece to play on occasion, though.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not Team Modern STM (never found a good new Link without refacing), but there's just something so "right" about seeing you play it with the (admittedly shit but) iconic single screw lig. Mmmm. Just looks so perfect on your VI, playing that music. I'm so conditioned to seeing it on so many classic album covers (Trane Lush Life, ZT's Blues, Schizophrenia, Crescent, yada yada).
Sorry, kinda irrelevant comment, but this video is awesome as well btw! 😊
I know what you mean. Maybe will be worth trying a regular (not NY model). and yeah, That ligature is not very user-friendly ☺️
@@bobreynolds I’ve played my Florida 8* Link for 20 years and love it. That doesn’t help you though of course. My understanding is that every Link, old or new, should be refaced before seriously considering it, so I dunno, for $150 might be worth doing it on your NY 9 and see what happens. I’m sure you’ve got a Rovner or Selmer lig lying around that’ll fit too.
I guess I’m just compassionate to your sitch, but I don’t have any answers man! It’ll work out. 🙏🏻
Awesome vid! Thanks Bob, i do something maybe similar.
I like to practice impro sometimes with the radio, is cool because you never know what chords are coming, or changes in the song. I don't do it to jazz but i think is a similar approach. The better when you don't know the songs. I will try this idea seems very logical!
Dude you sound wonderful on the Otto Link man❤
Great video Bob, what concenrs me using that technique is that I don't think my ears are not well developed yet, I might think I'm hearing a note and playing it wrong. So my tracing wouldn't be as accurate. I think I can try that with simpler melodies. 😊
I recommend jumping in. You'll be surprised what your ears are capable of
Go metal, Bob! You sound great in any mouthpiece. But, the metal piece suits you well!
Great stuff Bob!!
Have you tried out the Vandoren V16 metal mouthpieces? I recently switched to a T9 and LOVE IT!
You sound great
I always love your playing, sound and ideas Bob. I am fascinated to see how you decide on the mouthpiece thing! Would it be scientific or a feeling?
Tommy Occhiuto is an amazing mouthpiece artisan based in the Bay Area who could definitely help with that Link!
Great idea. Thanks for that. You're right, I bore myself when it's just a backing track and me.
Technical question: what do you hear in your headphones? The recording only or the recording plus yourself? If the latter, what's the setup for that?
I wish I could be that sharp
How do you work to on make sure that You have a nice balance of downbeats? I started this type of practice when I was working on tailgating as a trombone player in New Orleans Jazz and let it bleed over into my real book practice.
I find that Sometimes I don't play enough phrases that start on downbeats. I was wondering if you have strategies for that? It involves too much listening to the baseline down beats and responding and not enough hearing of the melody in my head beforehand and planning.
You did mention this is for songs that you know well.
So I understand that part of the correction of this predictable behavior.
Thank you very much.
I’ve been told by someone way more studied than I, that is better sharp than flat (not sure what your take is on that). Bob, your playing sounds great to me.
I notice whenever I have a tuner up and I’m listening to Dexter, Getz or Rollins, they tend to be fairly over the place tuning-wise.
Does anyone think it might be an unreasonable standard to apply to a saxophonist that we always be in tune perfectly at all times?
There are only so many octave vents in the design of the horn…
You're not wrong, and some variation is normal and expected, but here I felt WAY off compared to what I am accustomed to. Part of it is the very different character of this size metal and length.
I don’t think it’s an unreasonable standard to apply to saxophonists at all because if other instrumentalists can play perfectly in tune (not just other instrumentalists but also other saxophonists) then we just have to try harder. This is just what I’ve been taught and go through still but:
A classical saxophonist is expected to be in tune 600% of the time. There is not one instance ever that any note should be out of tune unless the composer has indicated. You pull up a tuner when a professional classical saxophonist is playing and they would pretty much never be all over the place unless they are adjusting for what note they play inside a chord as equal temperament has inherent intonation problems (I.e major 3rs are very sharp).
I could be wrong but I don’t think that this same standard applies to jazz saxophonists. Having listened to many jazz sax greats, their intonation, whether it be by artistic choice, bad instrument, inability to play in tune or because they don’t care - I personally find it extremely difficult to listen to and only put up with it to transcribe language I like.
But that’s just my opinion
Crazy
Hi Bob- you're sounding great on the OL ... but it's not you ...; I found the best mp ever (after trying some Florida metal OLs) for me from Phil Engleman: the "Intrepid" from Phil-Tone. It's worth to give it a try. Phil knows really well what he i s doing.
Are you still playing that metal NY Link? Those have a larger chamber than the standard metal Link.
Hé Bob, did you already try a Jody Jazz Custom Dark mouthpiece? I found that after my Otto Link Tone Edge didn't sound so good anymore the Jody Jazz is wonderfull.
Howard from BCS is apparently also really good at music
This was great advice! What did I (we?) miss re: the mouthpiece situation? Did you have one you loved that broke/got lost? Just curious what started the search... and wishing ALL the luck that you find one you love! (Hint: tell all the major companies you want to do a shootout in a video so you can test them all for free! I'd watch that! I did a 10 piece bari sax shootout, but didn't bother to film it (because I don't have a channel!), but should have. Even now *I* wonder what I thought about some of them in the moment!)
ua-cam.com/video/7DIjr9_2kB8/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/FhtUZAjVpSw/v-deo.html
@@bobreynolds OK, never mind my 7 month-late advice to have a mouthpiece shootout! Watching now... though now that I know you're still not happy, it feels like I'll be let down by it! :D
Bob , I know you hate tech questions but what’s the mic/interface/effects you’re using? I don’t practice through a mic…
Hmm that link is sounding good 🙂
I’ve tried a metal Link and didn’t like the feel of it in my mouth. Have you tried a Theo Wanne Slant Sig rubber piece? For me it checked all the boxes. I get the warm tones on the bottom, solid altissimo, and can “put an edge” on it for blues or rock if I want. I play an 8 and it gives me the versatility I want. Of course, each to his own.
Play Testing 21 Tenor Sax Mouthpieces | Otto Link, Theo Wanne, GetASax, 10mFan & more
ua-cam.com/video/FhtUZAjVpSw/v-deo.html
better sharp than out of tune
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I really want to be a great jazz Saxophonist
Great lesson…try a Drake man! The way you play and your observations of the link point me to recommend a Drake. Peace.
Ésos fugurajes deben salir simplemente por arco reflejo...
The link sounds great in that style, for that known classic sound, but versatility might not be there... playing sharp like McLean sounds cool too...
Those modern links are just not made well, it’s probably uneven
Eff’n A
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Try the 8* instead!!! 😂
The chambers of mouthpiece hell are deep, but there's hope, you still sound good:)
very deep
Oscar Peterson didn't copy generally!
You miss your old mouthpiece seems to be the….🤔
i do