Cecilia and Raora Speaks in Their Own Language to Each Other is Hilarious 【Hololive EN】
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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That's the great thing about Romance languages. Spanish, Italian, French, and Portuguese share so many similarities when spoken that, in many cases, you can understand many phrases or complete sentences without even knowing anything about the language. 10/10
Its basically the same when you already know 2 germanic languages. Especially in thier written forms.
How dare you forget Romênia 😢
Con el frances no es para nada facil entender. Como nativo español te puedo asegurar que el portugues (al menos el de Brasil) y el italiano son muy faciles de comprender sin conocer absolutamente nada del otro idioma. Pero el frances es otra historia. Es muy diferente desde la gramatica hasta la semantica. Hay palabras transparentes, pero no es suficiente para entender.
@@Albarra91 It's actually much easier when the French is spoken formally without any slang. The thing is, modern French slang is basically 90% English borrowed words 😑. Since English isn't a Romance language, it doesn't translate as easily.
Don't forget Latin and Catalan 👀. I'm sure we're forgetting some others 😅.
That "non ho capito" from Raora was 100% campanian
Absolutely and it's magnificent
Im so not use to hearing italian on the internet lmao. Its good for a change.
fr lmaoooo
Did she doxx herself already? Lmaooo
So this is Chloe's Makudo and Okayu grandma breakfast all over again
*translator left the chat*
Brainded 101
It is the language of Europe
@@hidokun9145Europe has MANY languages, it is a continent made up of many countries
Examples: English, French, Spanish, Italian, polish, Russian, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, danish, Welsh, and MORE.
skillissue
@@StarsAnimations_ovothanks captain obvious 🫡
Cecilia's pronunciation is so cute, and Raora is like a teacher in this situation :)
"What is skill issue in italian"
...weeeeell. LITERALLY should be 'problema di abilità'.
Pratically is 'cazzi tuoi' (your f- business)🤣
i'd say that "sei scarso" is the better translation to "skill issue"
it can also be "ESTICAZZI"
Eh sì, lì andava per forza adattato lol
Shouldn't it be "Scarso"?
Yagoo just keeps striking GOLD.. Sorry I mean ORO!
We're rich !
@@orctriharWe're rich!
@@orctriharWe're rich!
We're rich!
WE R... wait i cant say that im spanish XDD
HoloEU strong together! They're truly homies, able to understand each other even when they don't speak the same language xD
Good time to Hololive have a broadcasting rights of Eurocopa and/or Champions league
Raora's not wrong. I speak a decent amount of Spanish, and understood most of what she said despite her speaking Italian
I speak halfway decent spanish and I got the gist. French has always seemed like the odd one out among the romance languages. Rojo (Spanish), Rosso (Italian), Rouge, pronounced ruge (French).
@@JackTagar yeah I feel like French is a lot more unique compared to other romance languages
@@JackTagar let's give the numbers a try:
4: Cuatro (ES), Quattro (IT), Quatre (FR)
20: Veinte (ES), Venti (IT), Vingt (FR)
80: Ochenta (ES), Ottanta (IT), Quatre-vingts (FR) 🤯
@@kokorochacarero8003 I mean French is the same/similar as how Japanese numbers work
40 -> 四十
四 = 4
80 -> 八十
八 = 8
I speak terrible Spanish and i got most of it. I didn't understand the French at all.
If they were in Switzerland, that would be a very normal experience since that country has 4 official languages and most people speak 2 natively and understand a 3rd via school.
wow that is interesting
@@bungkikal9910 Yeah. What's funny is a friend of mine and myself tend to speak a bit of swiss german even tho we don't really know anyone who speaks it in our friend groups. It just sounds nice.
I lived in Switzerland my whole life, I barely understand german or italian (=close to nothing..)
TT__TT
@@eyzmasterAverage native French speaker in Swiss
Part 5 in a nutshell
She said gold and I was thinking of the fighting gold intro
So close to say "Aureo"
NANI?!? STANDO SK-DAI!??!?1
Tekken conversations are based on facts
yeah....
Somehow we don't have language problems...
Me: Spanish listener hearing Italian cat and french doll conversation.
brain: *confused noises but understanding*
99% Cpu of brain but it works
I think I downloaded a different Hololive EN DLC
Nah you just accidentally pressed the wrong language setting during setup. Should be fairly simple to switch it back.
Globalism be like
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Her french and accent is actually topnotch it's impressive !
I wonder where she's from. She doesn't talk like native French speaker but she's pretty close.
@@Hachizukatenzo Germany afaik
@@Hachizukatenzopossibly Swiss
@@Hachizukatenzoprobably Alsace-Lorrai- *ELSAẞ LOTHRINGEN*
@@Hachizukatenzo if she's from Germany, it's definitely close to France's border, that or she had lots of trips in France while growing up lol
Italy and Germany together like old times
Add Kiara from Austria and a JP girl and you get the bros together again
@@Edino_Chattino Austrians and Italians were not that "friends"
@@Edino_Chattino Pekora to truly fit the chaos
@@Edino_ChattinoThey work so well like as if they were on the same axis
So the only one Missing is Russian
They are so funny together!! And PLEASE I need a reaction vid made of that “non ho capito. Puoi ripetere?” Iconic
EU bros we have won. I hope this becomes the norm when these 2 stream together.
Whether it's Italian or German, language berriers can be overcome.
whether it's italian or german, theyre still in one same group 🥰
@@DBT1007 with the company of the Japanese..
@@MDDPerson Blyti. SUMMON THE TOWARICHESTVO
@@MDDPerson hey, I've seen this episode before!
By Panzers if necessary.
TL
C: Raora!
R: Tell me
C: Raora!
R: Tell me, tell me!
C: Um... good day!
R: Good day! How are you?
C: Doing fine, and you?
R: All good, thanks! What are you doing? Watcha doin?
C: I'm trying to see of we can find some (gold, but in exagerated italian which I think confused Raora)
R: I don't understand
C: You don't?
R: I don't understand. Can you repeat it?
C: skill issue
(I dont understand the next thing Raora said)
this should be pinned
afterwards she said "don't be like that!" ^^
0:39 I can feel this moment when you're about to speak in a different language you know... but it just block for some reasons 😂😂😂
Cecilia has a beautiful voice and hearing her speak french brightened my mood because as a french person I think her accent is good and she made no grammar mistakes !
Fun Fact: In linguistics, mutual intelligibility is a relationship between languages or dialects in which speakers of different but related varieties can readily understand each other without prior familiarity or special effort.
In the case of French and Italian, the two actually do have mutual intelligibility between each other, though only moderately
Danish and Dutch is a good example, i once watched a Danish movie and it took me +20 minutes to realize it was in a different language rather than people speaking with a thick accent
In most academic articles "mutually intelligible" is used in much more confined cases. Even French and Occitan (many Frenchmen still ignorantly consider 'dialects of French') are usually described "not mutually intelligible" (thus different and independent).
Actually ☝🤓 French and Italian aren't mutually intelligible because the understanding between the two languages is asymmetric. This means French speakers can understand Italian better than Italian speakers can understand French. French is very difficult for Italians to understand, oftentimes being completely unintelligible.
In contrast, mutually intelligible languages like Italian and Spanish still have an asymmetry (favoring Italian in this case), but it doesn't create a significant communication barrier.
Un plaisir d'avoir du français sur hololive
Got some Hologra language barrier logic going on here.
If this isn't the theme of their Hologra intro we riot
I remember a few years ago a Twitter thread of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian people went trending cause we were talking to each other in our language and we could understand each other perfectly. Good times
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDO
Experience Requiem
"Goldino" LMAO
ahh the romance languages sons of ROME still strong
(Romance language speaker here)
My natal tongue is Spanish and I can understand very well Catalan and Portuguese (Brazilian is easier to understand than Portuguese) without having learned it. I also understand a little Italian and Latin, although there the difference is bigger. French and Romanian are much more complicated and I understand almost nothing (I guess it is the same for an Italian speaker).
What they did is normal in Latin America, when we meet Brazilians it is normal to speak in our language and they will understand us (the same for them). There are even places where there is “Portuñol”*, which is a mixture of the two languages, the idea is that you speak in your own language and complement it with the words you know from the other language.
In relation to that, I heard that in Argentina, Argentines pretended to be Brazilian Catholic priests speaking “Portuñol” to obtain tithes in an illicit way xD
*
(Portu)gués = Portuguese
Espa(ñol) = Spanish
----> PORTUÑOL
French is a romance language heavily influenced by germanic languages, and English is a germanic language heavily influenced by romance languages. xD
elle a un bon accent quand elle parle francais franchement !
Grave
Apparently she is actually French? I think she just grew up in Germany. Not 100% sure though, just my guess. She could also just be be French-German as well. If she actually is fully French (i.e. both parents French) then it defnitely doesn't really show though (in her yapping etc.) since she culturally is extremely German so she probably spent her whole life or almost her whole life in Germany.
@@Jakokokoroko Not quite, she spoke a bunch of French at Japan Expo. She was understandable but still make a lot of basic grammar mistake a native wouldn’t make.
Vraiment bon! Très bien en effet.
@@Jakokokoroko Aparently she's a German that knows French very well. Basically a West European blood.
Tekken be like
This interaction was brought to you by the unquenchable roman urge to go on adventures all over europe several thousand years ago
Wtfff she speak french so well
she has almost no accent
Where's the subtitle 😭😭
Blud doesn't speak EU 🗣️🗣️
Wdym you ain't polyglot? 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Clippers that can subtitle all of Hololive are insane. Gotta speak English, German, Italian, French, Japanese, Indonesian Korean and Elite all at the same time.
@@kukuc96the elite one are really insane
Skill issue
It's like a dialogue in tekken lmfao
0:31 "but that's just a theory !" no but seriously both languages came from latin so the similarities make sense it's not just a theory.
A GAME THORY-
we should know the italian for gold because of this song called 'il vento d'oro', which roughly translate to golden wind
Not roughly , it literally means golden wind
Italian and espanyol is related
Español lol Espanyol is a football team
@@AlexMarthEspanyol is also the word “Spanish” written in Catalan
I’m Italian “buongiorno buonasera ciao diamanti oro smeraldo”
"ma non fare così..." cute!
I didn't knew she was french !
Hololive is really full of surprise XD
Her native language is German she's actually from Austria if I remember correctly !! But yeah her french is really good :D (idk why the title says "their own language" though ?)
Holo Justice's roster is literally both WW2 & most importantly the main members in J0J0 team from Battle Tendency.
1:30 we Italians all thought about another word 😂
French and Italian being similar is not a theory lol they're both descended from Latin aka Romance languages, along with Spanish and Romanian.
And Portuguese.
however, seriously, written French is more comprehensible for an Italian than written Spanish, but spoken Spanish is WAY more comprehensible for an Italian than spoken French. French pronunciation makes the language completely alien for other romance language speakers.
French morphed a lot due to their own evolution and reinvention of the language. It used to be more similar.
it's better to make it italian and Spanish. it's closer than Italian and french.
@@DBT1007 nah it's cus Cece said it in the video lol
@@neutronalchemist3241 Don't know if it is a shared opinion, to me, French is a written language first and a speaking language second for the reason you've mentioned. There's a huge emphasize on writing when we learn french and it feels like it didn't evolved since a century or two (not really but *feels*). Honestly, if we were to for exemple, still pronouncing "e" as "é" most of the time or at the very least pronouncing "e" at the end of words, it would change drastically 😅
Although French is often regarded as the odd child of the Latin speaking peoples, they are nearly 90% Lexically Similar to Italian. Which is more than the other Latin Languages when they are compared to Italian. Also, Iberians (Spaniards and Portuguese) and French are genetically the most closely related of all the Latin peoples. The reason why Iberians are most similar to Italians culturally is because they were the most Latinized from Roman influence.
Keep in mind that these are true only when you define languages and peoples based on existing political borders. For example I'm sure you'll find more similarity and closer genetic ties if you compare Venetian and Florentine, or Catalan and Castillian. They're not seen as separate languages or peoples only because of how borders were drawn.
@@commenter4898 Florentine, Venetian, Catalan, Castilian, etc… are all considered as Regional Languages. In regard to Regional History, your point is exactly true. Especially considering that they all had their own history as formerly being separate countries. As well as their genetic influences not being exactly the same. Such as Northern Italians and Spaniards having more in common with the French, than with Southern Italians and Spaniards.
However, when regarding the major Latin nations of today… Most Spanish and Italians consider themselves like close cousins due to being very culturally and linguistically similar. Whereas, the French are often put off to the side because they’re considered the most different. Now despite that… French is more lexically similar to Italian than Italian is with Spanish; although how French sounds like, doesn’t. Also, Spain and France as a whole share more genetic ancestry together than they do with Italy. Due to sharing Celtic, Roman, Scandinavian (Vikings), North African and Arabic (Islamic Invasions), and Gothic ancestry.
The only difference is accent tbh. Southern french accent is more latin influenced than northern french accent
@@commenter4898 In term of french region dialects, catalan is even more close to the occitan languages, the "langues d'oc", than castilian; modern french language is derived from the northern parts of France, where the "langues d'oïl" were spoken. Today, they are still distinct accents in South France compared to the usual one.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occitan_language
cecilia sounding like she swallowed a burger whole "i dont understand you" "skill issue 😎" 😂
I've been to Italy for a few days and I can confirm that they didn't have any problems with Spanish.
actualy it's more difficult for some things : french is a mix of latin-origin, gaul-origin, and germanic-origin words.
but yeah, most basics are latin origin so most latin people could understand a little what they're trying to say.
this is the magic of romance languages
OUI LES FRANÇAIS ON EST LAAAA
“Skill issue”
as a french speaker who must learn italian next year, this does not reassure me
Exactly. Italian and French are both Romance languages, descended from Latin.
If CC said *STARDENBURDENHARDENBART,* Raora would've looked at her without hesitation, because German always works.
But at the end of the day, love is the universal language.
Asian bros:
It's been over 10 years since I spoke French (I'm Canadian) I'm surprised I remembered enough to somewhat understand Cecilia.
I don't understand Raora at all, I'm just using some context clues to try and get a grasp of what's being said.
Mainly because my French level is rudimentary, so the French to Italian doesn't really work for me like it does for both of them.
But at 0:44, it's the basic hello, how are you, i'm okay, and you etc..
C: 0:44 "Raora, Bonjour" = Raora, Hello
R: "Bonjourno come stai" = Good morning/Hello. How are you?
C: 0:46 "cava cava, et toi?" = eh i'm okay, and you?
R: I have no idea what Raora said, but she said "Bene" = Good, so I'm assuming she replied "I'm good", and I don't know what else was said
at 0:49 Raora says che fai, which I according to google is "what are you doing?" (Sounds similar to Que fais-tu in French)
"Que fais-tu" means "what are you doing"
0:51 It's a bit tricky here since my French is rusty af, but I think Cecilia says "Je suis entrante regarder si en trouve du gold"
which means "I'm entering and seeing if I can find any gold" or "I'm looking for gold."
1:13 Cecilia's trying to guess how Minecraft's Redstone is said in Italian, "Rouge" which she says is red in French, she says "Rouge Stone" lol..
SEA (PH) here, if they talked spanish, we kinda know and guess what they say.
Except Filipinos, we can understand a little bit
Yes, gold is oro in italian, it comes from the latin aurum
Same in French as well " Or ".
It's oro in Spanish too.
French speaker here. "Rosso" in italian is "rouge" in french, but we have also the word "roux" ("rousse" in feminine form), mostly used for the hair colour. :)
@@WilliamFarge that's interesting
I speak french and italian so its even more fun 😂
since they joined being able to speak these other languages, it would be so nice if they had streams with only those languages. raora with italian-only stream, cecilia with german-only stream, and elizabeth with british-only stream.
"J'ai théorie comme quoi l'italien et le francais ça se ressemble un peu"
Alors, j'ai de grandes nouvelles
Italian it's so similar to Spanish omg
For those interested: this is language intercomprehension. Basically languages that belong to the same family can make up for what they don't understand using the similarities (words, etymology, sentence structure etc) that they share. It's a very interesting subject that's being studied for a long time.
I never thought i would one day hear actual french in a official hololive talent's stream lol
The fact that i understand all the language in the video make me laugh so hard 😂😂
The power of the Romance group of Languages (French, Spanish, Italian) at last...
Everybody gangsta until Ceci wips out all the multiples of 8 and 9 in french
They tried to break the language barrier like Tekken characters
French and Italian actually having fun lol
i love these yappy birds.
the fact that i understood everything because i'm french + learned italian in school
Essendo un fan italiano, sentire Raora Panthera parlare in italiano mi mette sempre un sorriso sulla faccia
Quattro formacci pizza. 👍
Mio fratello
Mamma mia. 🤌🏻
@@SassolinoTV ciao Sassolino 👋
She speak french soo good 😂
Tekken cutscenes be like
Damn not even a month it and they already be Hologra-ing.
reminds me of a spanish lesson with a replacement teacher who just came in talking to us in italian, because he wasnt able to speak spanish but thought it is close enough xD
When Polnareff met Diavolo
Holo EU is thriving
When France and Italy join sides you know your end is near
Italian, French, Spanish, and Portugese are all derived from Latin. So yes, Cecilia, there are similarities.
latin based languages like spanish, portuguese, italian and french are fun
we can kinda sorta understand each other since we have shared roots
This is the most european moment I've ever seen hahahaha and I LOVE IT!
Man it's almost like French and Italian used to be the same language
They didn't, tho? Both have latin influences, but french actually had quite a lot of influence from celtic languages, especially gaulic. Also frankish. There's quite a lot of germanic languages in french, which makes it quite different from italian, which is more purely of latin derivation.
That's why french and italian hardly sound anything alike. Spanish and italian are much more similar.
Yes and no...all developed from vulgar latin spoken by common folk but doesn't mean they were exact same as the language got transformed and influenced by neighbouring cultures from region to region
I'm Italian-Croatian-Australian that speaks English,Croatian and French.Magical combination❤I think I'm the person with most nationalities in my entire school😅I find really easy Romance languages, especially Spanish.
I've seen something that's called interlingua and the way that language is made make it easy to understand for all the with latine roots
Italian French Spanish are all romance languages
Chatini: You speak French?
Raora: There were a couple french girl in Firenze
(Reference to Ezio Auditore in AC Brotherhood)
FYI Italian and French comes from the some linguistic strain that's why some words of this two languages are similar
It's been over 10 years since I spoke French (I'm Canadian) I'm surprised I remembered enough to somewhat understand Cecilia.
I don't understand Raora at all, I'm just using some context clues to try and get a grasp of what's being said.
Mainly because my French level is rudimentary, so the French to Italian doesn't really work for me like it does for both of them.
But at 0:44, it's the basic hello, how are you, i'm okay, and you etc..
C: 0:44 "Raora, Bonjour" = Raora, Hello
R: "Bonjourno come stai" = Good morning/Hello. How are you?
C: 0:46 "cava cava, et toi?" = eh i'm okay, and you?
R: I have no idea what Raora said, but she said "Bene" = Good, so I'm assuming she replied "I'm good", and I don't know what else was said
at 0:49 Raora says che fai, which I according to google is "what are you doing?" (Sounds similar to Que fais-tu in French)
"Que fais-tu" means "what are you doing"
0:51 It's a bit tricky here since my French is rusty af, but I think Cecilia says "Je suis entrante regarder si en trouve du gold"
which means "I'm entering and seeing if I can find any gold" or "I'm looking for gold."
1:13 Cecilia's trying to guess how Minecraft's Redstone is said in Italian, "Rouge" which she says is red in French, she says "Rouge Stone" lol..
Hobbying around in latin:
Aurum was gold. Au got absorbed into O, and most of the romance languages dropped the -m’s
In a different example, rubra is red-where we got ruby-while rosa is just what it sounds like: the flower itself. But hey, its been twothousand years, and connotations have changed. Even definitions-pretty sure rosa means pink in other tongues
when it comes to italian rosa can mean both the rose flower or the colour pink
@@BoH1o7 Yeah same with French, rose is both the color and flower
Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure rose is also a fancy way to say pink in english
@@BoH1o7 Same in Portuguese. Both is "Rosa".
I can hear the slight German in her French but it's really good!
I love how I could speak to both in their own native language, I'm Italian but I speak French (And English, German, and a bit of Russian)
Tower of babel momento
Ok i will try to translate it as a italian/french bilingual lol
0:38
C - Raora?
R - Tell me
C - Raora
R - Tell me, tell me
C - Good morning
R - Good morning, how are you?
C - Doing good, doing good, and you?
R - Ehh everything’s good, thank you. What are you doing today? What are you doing today?
C - What are you doing? Ahhh i’m about to see if we can find some GOOOLD
R - What did you say? I didn’t understand
C - i didn’t understand?
R - I didn’t understand, can you repeat?
C - Well that’s a big skill issue
R - No don’t say it like this…
C - What’s skill issue in italian? Wait lemme guess the word in italian
R - Ok
C - ROUUGE, ROUGIA
R - Rougia?
C - What’s red in italian? Rougia? Hey i was pretty close!
R - NO! It’s rosso
C - Oh that’s .. (i can’t gear what she said)
R - That’s pretty close, like porco rosso, it’s a movie
C - Porco rosso!
1:38
C - Com- comprende?
R - Understood
C - Understood. I think comprende is spanish actually
I’m not translating the end lol, maily cause idk numbers in german
watching this as an Italian is hilarious
Raora noooo non entrare nella area "porco" e abbastanza pericoloso 😂😂😂
Quando ho sentito PORCO mi si sono attivati tutti i neuroni
hearing an italian speaking from english to italian is the most weird feeling i can have
"C'HA DETTO?!?"
nono CC was onto something, French and Italian are technically related because both are ROMANCE languages, this also include Spanish and Portuguese i believe.
French ---> English traduction for the non french speakers
"Bonjour" = Hello [U might know that one]
"Ça va ça va et toi ?" = Im fine im fine, and you ?
"Je suis entrain de regarder si on peut trouver du ???" = I’m looking if we can find some ???
As a French woman I am surprised how incredibly good her French is, I hesitate to even say that she is French