The Divider brings us into Donald Trump's Oval Office for countless scenes both tense and comical
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2022
- In their new book The Divider journalists Peter Baker and Susan Glasser take readers inside the Oval Office during Donald Trump's four years as President. The writers obtained unprecedented access to key players, from President Trump himself to cabinet officers, military generals, close advisers, Trump family members, congressional leaders, foreign officials and others, some of whom have never told their story until now. The stories range from the absurd to the deadly.
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It’s everything we knew and know about that horrific person. I can’t believe ANYONE would vote for him or thinks he is good for the country. He has reeked havoc on This country and divided us. Its shameful
Don the Con Chump and the current serial lying republican party is one of the top 10 disasters in US history. Chump has done as much damage to the country and our rule of law as the worst elements of US history such as the KKK, Jim Crow laws, Senator McCarthy, and the like. Richard Nixon and Wategate was a minor event compared to the criminality and damage that Chump and the GOP have done.
To sum it up---- cult. Devotion to a person. The only way out is deprogramming.
“Horrific person,” I watch criminal documentaries and a lot of history on true villains. Trump maybe a lot of things, but horrific is not one of them. And if you think so, there’s probably something wrong with you.
@@jonathangullett3143 That is laughable. Some partisan political hack who watches a few documentaries somehow thinks he knows more than eminent law professors, former Attorney; General, Pultizer Prize winning investigative journalists, presidential historians, and scores of experts across many fields. The only one who has a few screws loose is you buddy. As the saying goes ... you can't fix stupid, but they are easy to identify from their MAGA red hats.
@@coreyham3753 lol, keep judging by appearances and experts, and I’ll judge by actions.
ANYONE who runs for President should be required to pass a civics test and a psychological evaluation.
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And just maybe an intelligence test, just a thought.
Also submit their taxes & pass security clearance.
trump can't pass a third grade reading comprehension test......" yoo. see might" instead of yosemite... he is an idiot and he paid his way through school , never did the work and it shows
Biden would be in a nursing home if he had to undergo a mental evaluation. Hillary would have been sent to a hospital for the criminally insane.
The Trump presidency felt like being tied to a chair, watching a toddler play with a loaded gun.
...and enjoying the funny sound that the safety makes as they click it on and off.
Yes. We all need treatment for PTSD now.
@@AndreaCuchetto you need treatment for TRS.
Perfect visual
@@VincentArdolino - who do you think you are?
I love that book! Trump and his friends are destroying our country!
I agree that Trump and his followers are a danger to our country. However, the real problem is THE PEOPLE who vote for them. Trump and many of his followers are finite human beings who will go the way of all humanity. We need to focus on the ideals of the nation and continue to try to make those ideals more of a reality for ALL of our people.
Ok, so all these people that worked in the administration were afraid/concerned about Trump as President. Yet why aren't those people speaking out. I wish these people who usef to work in the administration would warn the public of the danger of a 2nd term of Trump.
They never will said that, intil they are fired. All do. Or write a book. Or else. Complete mess.
So true.
I had total anxiety for 4 straight years and I KNEW it was NOT going to be a good thing for America with this lawless man in the Oval Office
That's exactly how I felt!! It was awful 😖
Now we have PTSD…
Yes, me too. I was so anxious too
I as well felt that things were so horrific I felt it was the end of our wonderful country. I felt he had dictatorship ideas and would get rid any person that got in his way!!!!
Hitler is what came to my mind. Thank God he lost after causing division in our country.
You were not alone, possibly 99% of the population's blood pressure was sky high and anxiety over the top high. Not good for anything.
You can sum the whole thing up in one sentence: The American people elected a man to the highest office in the land who had absolute no desire to do anything to make the country or it's people better, his only concern was how he could wield power and use that power to benefit himself and his family.
Getting into office didn't diminish his penchant for holding silly Jr HS rallies to hear his rubes on his rubbish.
Accurate accounting of Biden.
But, I wish your post was not true. Sadly, for the sake of our nation, it is Truth. As a example, to get more specific, Trump's son-law took control of a reported half billion dollars of presidential campaign monies, into a private LLC. Yet I noted in other stories that at the end of campaign, they were running short of money. I have heard no one else point this out. But meanwhile others want to focus on Hunter Biden's laptop. And then Kushner gets 2 billion from the Saudis for 'investment', after serving as Trump's head of Middle East policy.
Most republicans care about benefiting themselves and their family, so they elected a person who represented their values.
@@thegoodpimps why are you going to pretend to care about me?
It sad to think some republicans still think trump is the best president since slice bread. VOTE BLUE💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙
clearly we have the worst now... and the most biased news coverage of all times
Yeah really sad and pathetic
The Donald Trump is number one forever!!!!
@@alexvolkov62 yeah number one traitor. The most dumbest president ever in history. This I can tell you 👐🏼
You know what would redeem us nationally, tossing Donald Trump into prison.
It's a start.
Total incompetence, yet GOP helped him get in. It's shameful! I knew he was totally Unfit. I wanted to yell it out from the mountain tops, anyone that had watched & heard the foolishness that spewed out of Donald Trump, & had some discernment, could see how unfit he was for the highest office of our nation.
They don't care about competence, they care about who will push legislation that will put more money into the pockets of their big donors.
Vote Blue in 22 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
@@billwalsh388 exactly they knew how ignorant he was and could use him to get whatever they wanted passed. That’s why they keep him in the spotlight too, and go along with his election lies.
I did speak out to everyone I knew… unfortunately people were age that the Democrats would tax them higher. I was right! Trump was the absolute worst scum President our nation has ever had, way worse than Nixon, and he was awful!!
It's not whose fit to hold office. It's all about power.
@@billwalsh388 yes,please. Vote for decency and democracy. Our lives depend on it. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
One of the most chilling moments for me was in May, 2017, when he stood in front of those Republican congressmen and said, "I'm the president! Can you believe it??!" And they just clapped and clapped with their stupid grins on their faces. They were all part of it.
Becky, I referred to the those Republican lackeys as behaving like trained seals. Although I believe seals would be much more intelligent.
@@catherinemacaskill1421 When I see they way people like you fall in line with the democratic party, the media lies, and the intelligence agencies, I have the same impression.
Most of em are still behaving that way.
Moscow celebrated like mad when he was elected in 2016. It was so cheap and easy to get Trump installed in the USA. They poured champagne and partied hard all night. Such a great deal for Putin!
@@jabbermocky4520 couldn't have worked out better for VP. 🇷🇺
We will be cleaning up his mess for a LONG TIME!!
The term "generational" comes to mind.
Cleaning up the mess? We had record low poverty below 10%, low inflation, no new wars, record economy, low inflation, minorities had record breaking employment, gas was $2 gal.
Now we have a crashing economy, gas over $6 gal, inflation over 10%, funding a war against Russia (a nuclear power), poverty is back up to 15%, stock market is crashing.
Your opinion given the facts on the ground is insane. It shows a high level of TDS 🤯
Well it wasn't really his mess, but you're right a out the the devastion that went on. Democrats, the media, and the intelligence agencies decided to destroy the country in order to make it look like it was Trumps fault.
The mess the dementia patient in the White House has created over the past two years? Yeah, this mess isn’t getting cleaned up anytime soon, especially when there are so many ignorant people who are happy to seal-clap for the destruction of our country and economy because the Bad Orange Man sent some mean tweets. 🤡
@@konradyearwood5845 at least.
The most divisive president in american history.
That would be Biden.
He's still at it and shows no signs of letting up.
He doesn’t take blame for his actions a true narcissist. Will blame others but never himself
Before trump was elected, I used him as an example of a grandiose narcissist. I teach psychology.
Really because before elected he was well liked and was off radar . No one knows businessman trump so why use an example of someone many wont know , and also as a physiologist you aren’t allowed to diagnose anyone or give labels unless you have few 1on1 sessions with the person . Wierd you didn’t know this 😂
@@Lilyyysanchez Plenty of us were familiar with trump from the 80s and 90s and 2000s. Just because you weren't doesn't mean the rest of us weren't. Maybe you weren't old enough or alive when he was making headlines every week in the 80s and 90s. You should try not to contradict someone else's experience when you have absolutely zero knowledge of that experience
@@Lilyyysanchez Maybe he was well-liked among your crowd, but plenty of people felt otherwise. His televised behavior produced plenty of examples of behavior that might be recognized by students as matching the definition of narcissism. That's not a diagnosis, it's applying real life to the classroom, and is an effective teaching technique.
@@Lilyyysanchez get over yourself...lilly
I just finished “The Divider”. I cannot express my gratitude enough, despite the fact that I needed to lie down in a dark room with a cold cloth after I relived the last five years through your reporting. Mathis, Dunford, Miley and Kelly. I think of them now as ‘The Protectors’ despite all obstacles. Don’t stop reporting the truth and keeping us thinking. Onward…
Lack of knowledge isn't the issue, lack of empathy and just not giving a shit about anyone other than himself. Not caring who he hurt along the way.
Maybe not lack of knowledge, but lack of intellect contributed.
@@B_Bodziak true but I think the biggest is just not giving a shit
And don’t elect a narcissist & sociopath…
Agreed
@@michelebenedosso3899 I voted for Biden at least
The issue with Donald Trump is not his ignorance, but his contempt for laws and rules. He believes that he is the smartest guy in the world and that he is above the law.
The trouble with him is that he’s.a narcissist. They are dangerous unprincipled people.
That's about to come to an end. Stay tuned.
the Presidency was a game show he won (?) and could make his biggest and best grift yet. Powerful book!
This is the best interview I've ever heard on the irreparable damage done to our country. Katie, you are an amazing interrogator.
Thank you Katie for your interesting and informative reporting ! You know how to interview !
I was mortified on Inauguration. Felt like we were being invaded by a horrible dictatorship.
The next time, when I went home to see my dying Mother. She had volumes of literature and check chits from the Trump and the Republicans National Headquarters.
She was always and my ancestors, were Democrats.
She marched with me on several occasions in the 60s and 70s.
I left the room to weep...
If we don't clear this next hurdle, I believe we are done finally...
Some of the damage he did to our country probably will never be corrected.
So sad!
The notion of Donald as “charming” is nauseating.
I agree. Charming no, repulsive, yes.
I think the term they should be using is "manipulative".
Donald Trump number one forever!!!!
Trump has always been repulsive 🤮
It was a very terrifying ride for those of us on the outside, without any real insight.
Peter and Susan are both so eloquent. They always report in such a clear way.
If you’ve haven’t met a narcissist it’s hard to understand, but they’re dangerously charming until you ignore them or do anything they don’t control, then they’re toxic, vitriolic, make up lies, accuse you of all sorts of BS and try to intimidate you.
He was a ignorant game show host and millions of people allow him in the White House
The more you hear about this piece of work the sadder it gets. And to think there’s people that want four more years of that. Wow
The bottom line the guy was never fully qualified. Never showed his taxes. That's just one example and what we learned from this. Nothing because when a guy like DeSantis comes along Harvard grad he's just going to do those things but with confidence and competence.
Pretty scary thought.
Donald Trump proved to the world that you don't have to smart , honest or hardworking to become rich.
He only has money because his inherited half a billion dollars, and still filed bankruptcy 6 times
Donald Trump is number oneforever
Богатым, но не руководителем страны.
Это очень разные стороны.
@@alexvolkov62 Does the fact that he buried his first wife on his golf course in Bedminster to gain a tax credit give you any pause?
The world already knew that.
Why hasn’t trump been arrested? Come on DOJ…do your job!
Brilliant interview, thanks Katie and authors. 💜👏
excellent interview! such a scary time for our nation.
Ms Couric asks outstanding questions! Thanks for mapping out the criminal president's psychotic destruction!
Katie~ we all are wishing you well and excellent health.
God bless Katie. we're praying for you 🙏
Why anyone who describes DT as charming blows my mind🤯
Accomplishments? Huh?
Thank you for covering this. Katie I appreciate your reporting! You are so authentic.
Inconsistencies are the hall mark of an unstable mind.
Fabulous show-must read the book! Katie, always love your interviews.
Excellent questions, Katie. Your interviews inform and encourage.
Love Glasser's visceral distaste - sounds like her experience of interviewing DJT was like listening to Vogon poetry
I love your reference!
Katie, UVA went coed the same year I graduated and so you and others have proven it was the right thing to do. You make me proud. Wahoowa!
at 6:00, perfect sum-up of the consequences of hiring someone for a job when they have little qualifications and absolutely no experience. Like hiring your accountant to do your appendectomy because he thinks he’s smart enough. It’s a cruel thing for you AND the accountant.
8:00 ‘’ … Couldn’t somebody given him a primer?” There is no book simple enough and he would not read it. Nothing had boundaries, even his job. The job of President was what he wanted it to be and if that could not be, he wanted: a) IT MORE b) SOMETHING ELSE, even a cheeseburger. His day is nothing more than needs satisfied every moment.
12:46 joint chiefs of staff: trump was the biggest national security threat
EX-President please
I just listened to "Going There" on the audiobook version. I appreciated your transparency and was engaged the whole time.
Chump was enthusiastically ignorant.
Agreed. Lack of knowledge was the least of it. There was plenty of resources to learn. He was all about how can I circumvent "this" in order to get "that". He also took advantage of "norms" which were not necessarily laws and walked all over them. He knows how to play the game all too well---unfortunately.
Indeed, the lack of attention to Trump's lack of qualifications for president was so unhistoric as to be almost beyond belief.
Speaking of "tutors" I'm guessing that because Washington was such a sterling example (and Madison held him in such high regard as the sole role model), he perhaps thought hat any potential future candidate would attempt to emulate Washington as close as possible, and that no ignoble pretenders would present themselves, and ipso facto, was not even contemplated. To be fair, until Trump's arrival on the scene, I myself never questioned how shockingly naïve Madison was when he put to paper the qualifications for President in Article III of the Constitution.
It is a striking and possibly fatal oversight of the Constitution of 1787. It's not as if one thousand years of English politics and law (the English Civil War, the beheading of Charles, Cromwell's dictatorship, &c.) was not known to Madison. Or to Benjamin Franklin, for that matter, who should have 'had a word' with the Committee before Article III was published.
This will be an interesting read.
This is sooo good!
Fascinating interviewer Katie. Bravo Mam
Great interview!
Jared Kushner was not in his early 30s. He was 36 when the Trump administration began. He was just remarkably immature. In this, he is a typical Trump.
Yah they are knew what was going on but they didn’t go public to warn the public!
diane, reporters have been warning the country about Trump's demented behavior from the time of his glide down his escalator. The Republican base wanted his racism, sexism, mysogeny and stupidity. The real problem lies with the lackeys in Congress and the right wing propaganda networks who enabled his delusional ideology.
Warn the public? These people are delusional, they imagine all sorts of wrongdoing that didn’t exist. They talk about Norms being ignored while all Democrats do is violate norms. The only standards Democrats have are double standards.
So many people did go public.
I had to listen to parts of this two or three times. I can't imagine what it must of been like working in the white house during Trump's years.
Forklift operators have to pass more tests than someone running for president.
Hell the Walmart test is 100 times harder trust me first ten of hundred questions burns him out and he fails all three.
literally true.
What a horrific time for America!
Very nice,thank you
Well he only hired the best, !,,,,,,,,each leave, more even worse. When his own family couldn’t pass clearance, you dropped to the bottom
Everything Trump said he would "fix" in Washington he blatantly exploited for his own gain and, often deliberately, made extremely worse.
Looking forward to reading this book.
Fascinating...
A lot of his supporters were/are just as ignorant as he is; that is a good part of his appeal. These are people who are not interested in democracy or the rule of law. Quite a few of them are in Congress.
You should seek help for your TDS.
Democrats don’t believe in the Rule of Law or democracy. Anything that goes against the Democrat party is a threat to “democracy” and anything that stands in the way of their agenda is quickly ignored.
??? a lot of his supporters??? all of them...
@@VincentArdolino - No, it's his supporters who have TDS. A symptom of this disease is projecting their illness on everyone else.
@@VincentArdolino And perhaps you should seek help for your blind loyalty
He was only interested in power and control...and yes.....money.
Mr. Trump, do you know the difference between ignorance and apathy?
DJT: "I don't know, and I don't care."
Hope you are well, Katie.
Great interview
The authors add in their epilogue to this book that American politics will never be the same after Trump and Company. Sadly, they believe that much damage has been done to our society and institutions. It is not over yet.
Many of em still have their foot on that gas pedal.
@@Amick44 , so true! I used to be much more optimistic than I have recently become. It’s all pretty bad.
Thank you.
A dictator is not a President. A dictator dictates.
Katie we love you
The second sentence would be: We can chart the end of the United States as a force for good in the world to the Trump presidency.
NO ONE REPORTED HIM AS UNFIT WHEN THEY ALL KNEW IT...WHAT A DISGUSTING BUNCH OF COWARDS
agree old dude shouting in between golf games.
Accomplishments: Oh yea, and then there's that.
Great interview Thanks
Susan Glasser and Peter Baker are a married couple who physically resemble each other. 😊
I want to read their book; it sounds like a good one.
How does he have any supporters in govt or electors
He was hired to do exactly what he and all his minions after him.
Create chaos. Break the Order.
We are ones that have been infiltrated.
He did not know, nor did he give a damn...seems two-year-old, is !!
I no like how Katie says they vomited out the info….thats hitting the nail on the head
Enlightening
And yet many would love to see him take the reins again. And let’s not forget that most Republicans voted AGAINST the J6 investigation. What our fellow world citizens must think of us.
katie like a fine wine.
Katie! Much better camera and sound! So glad you switched it up. I mean you're a pro honey. And you ought to have equipment like a pro. Thanks for the great interview!
What did Trump do while he was President? Constantly sit for interviews?? So many have written about him. Trump work in kaos always has.
And he's eligible to run again.
Hopefully not.
Not for long.
Sigh. Thanks for the interview; i feel challenged with NYT and other press also, suggesting the ‘both sides has to be equally covered ‘ when the frame of the book was about the mode and damage: honesty is most important. Seems the degradation of discord to outright crassness has been huge. Now that is normalized, how can kindness and inclusion arise?
he had no idea about the law at all. he is still dangerous
Stop trying to figure him out. He's just f*%king nuts, Katie!
Why in the world did these public officials keep this to themselves?
because trump has something dirty on them... when he winds up in court he is going to take them all down with him...
Some of it got out to a degree.
This isn’t new information really for anyone!! We lived through all this and none was hidden.. the crazy train was all there to be seen!!
I think many hoped they could be helpful by continually trying to steer him away from endangering the country.
Katie, one of your best of always excellent shows, RoeVember 8 SOOOooo clutch for democracy and institutions. Hope y'all caught Nancy, most effective Speaker of my lifetime, Biden's economy is fine and on a healthy path, IF ReTrumplicans could open their eyes and UNITE the world would quit shaking their heads💞🌎🇺🇸🇺🇦🗳️🔵
I love these interviews but I also find them so frustrating because so many Americans, including myself, saw what was happening in real time and predicted the way all of this played out months if not years before the so-called experts. Nothing that Trump did was surprising. None of it. I live within a few blocks of the Michigan state Capitol and decided to get a pistol license when I saw how nutty Michiganders were behaving at the mere suggestion that Trump might lose in 2020. There was a huge spike in licenses in this state during October 2020. That alone should have predicted some of the violence and division around the election.
Further, anyone paying attention could have guessed the kinds of materials Trump would have removed from the Presidential papers to take to Mar-a-lago. He took mementos from world leaders and artifacts of ego and power. He doesn't plan on selling them or trading on them. They are porn for his overweaning ego. He always treated the Presidency like it was his person and not an institution. He has no interest in protecting the historical record because outside of his person, nothing else matters. I don't know why we spend so much time figuring him out. He is a simple, streamlined organism. Like a shark. It just eats, sleeps, and makes baby sharks. Trump must have attention, authority, and fawning admirers. That's it.
Thank you!!!
Their apartment must face west. What a lovely sunset reflecting in their artwork. Good choice of a place to sit. They get to enjoy it while being interviewed.
❤🙏
TFG was the worst & dumbest guy in Office!!!!!!
i love angry dude hollering at tv inbetween golf games!