Tesla has been severely underestimated, it doesn’t matter what the final price will be in 2030, what we all unanimously agree on is that this is a once in a generation wealth making opportunity
Hey guys I’m not a Biden fan but this was a blessing in disguise imo. Think about it! We were able to buy and collect Tesla stock at the lowest prices possible.
I’m 23, living with my parents, and making $50-$60k a year. I started investing in 2021 and loaded up on TSLA (115 shares at $217) NVDA (150 shares at $22) and PLTR (294 shares at $30). My parents are letting me live with them until I’m 24. I didn’t want to move out until my portfolio hit $100k. My portfolio hit $100k two weeks ago, and my new goal is $200k, before moving out when I turn 24 in September. TSLA to the moon! I love Pejjy!
24? They should let you stay as long as you want. I mean if they’re not financially hurting and doing well what’s it to them that you stay until you’re 30? On your own you’re going to take a big hit on your investment and portfolio. It will go down fast from rent to groceries and all the other things that the cost of living drains your bank account.
Be good to clarify your math on the 1100% a year, taking the total growth and dividing it by the amount of years does not give you the yearly returns due to compounding. The CAGR of TSLA since listing is approximately 57% PA, still a great return. Thanks for your videos and all the best for 2025!
How I calculated is I divided the total returns since IPO and that's the number I got as an average which is insane. I'm not sure if that's the even the right way to calculate it but it sounds right. Total returns since IPO: 36,000% Years since IPO: 24 36,000%/24 years = 1,500% average ROI I think that's right, right? lol
@@Pejjy Ipo was in 2010 so it's more like 15 years. Which would give 2400% which is of course wrong. Don't forget compound interest has interest on interest. 🤔
The part of the bot plan that I dont understand is what happens to all the workers that get displaced from jobs. And then they dont have enough money to buy the goods that the bots are making.
Amazing chat guys. I am from Norway, and most of the people here hate Elon and think hes stupid and has just been lucky his whole life 😂Its unreal, how do people have so little common sense and logic, while at the same time seeming smart otherwise? People go into attack mode if you say something positive about Musk, and even worse, Trump. I guess we should be thankful, since it is free money for us that use our brains to see the real world.
Jo goes into so much more detail a new world is knocking on the door and 98% are living their lives with no idea what is coming. Prepare now or be left behind .
FSD and Robotaxi service are not synonymous. A Robotaxi transportation service needs FSD, but FSD can exist without Robotaxis. The FSD software business is a high margin Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) type business that can be sold to customers, can be licensed to other auto manufacturers, and can have high margin consulting services to assist legacy automakers to implement the hardware and software to be able to incorporate FSD on their vehicles. The Robotaxi service is a Transportation-as-a-Service (TaaS) business that needs FSD, but is an entirely different business than the FSD software business.
I’m so greatful I’ve been buying over the last few years and managed to get 150 shares which have gone up over 100 percent I’ve even been buying both my kids in there tax free stock saver Tesla shares which can’t touch them untill there 18 they only have ten each but I’m guessing in 18years ten shares will be enough to give them a helping hand plus I’m always adding each month
Me laughing in my $4k used car. Ain't no way Robotax cheaper in the long run. But yes, for those folks financing $50K new cars every year that is destroying your family's P&L.
I’m not arguing with you Pete but you’re $4000 used car still has a running cost and the running cost is still more than using cyber taxis because you still have to pay for gas tires insurance oil changes, etc. But do the math yourself. Heck; just my cost of insurance is more expensive than me using a Robo taxi every day to work.
Hard to find good cheap used cars tho. They usually have problems that have to be fixed from the previous owner who neglected it. Works good for me since I do my own car repairs. Not everybody is in that position.
The real blockage to robot adoption will be unions. UAW or IG Metall will never allow bots in the factories. Countries that allow bots will have unemployment but also a manufacturing industry (and therefore taxes). Countries that don't will just have unemployment.
Thanks for the breakdown! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
A quick summary and then an important question for the next video: 2030 price target is 26X or 183X with 26X being buy and hold and 183X being a mix of some risky or leveraged trade such as options and maybe options and margin and it is that that I would like to have a hypothetical conversation about is going in deep on the difference between the 26X strategy and the 183X strategy.
Even with an outrageous p/e of 200, you would need $55/share earnings for your $10970. Earnings this year are $2.50, so you would need earnings to 22x in six years, which is a CAGR of 68%.
I'm interested to know Jo's leveraged plays. I was in June 2026 330 strike calls and did very well, but am out right now. Also I'm in TSLL and way up on those too. Will eventually move to TLSA shares.
Pejjy math... taking the total % gain since IPO and dividing it by number years to get a per year % of 1100 or whatever, is VERY VERY wrong to say, because if you went back in time and applied that growth rate cumulatively the stock would be worth more $ today than there are atoms in the Universe.
@@Pejjy An initial investment of $10,000 at the IPO would have allowed the purchase of approximately 588 shares. After accounting for stock splits-a 5-for-1 split in 2020 and a 3-for-1 split in 2022-this holding would have increased to 8,820 shares. With the current share price around $462.28, this investment would now be valued at approximately $4,078,869.60, representing a total return of about 40,689% over approximately 14.5 years. To calculate the average annualized return, we use the formula for compound annual growth rate (CAGR): CAGR = [(Ending Value / Beginning Value) ^ (1 / Number of Years)] - 1 Plugging in the values: CAGR = [($4,078,869.60 / $10,000) ^ (1 / 14.5)] - 1 CAGR ≈ 0.742, or 74.2% Therefore, Tesla's stock has achieved an average annualized return of approximately 74.2% since its IPO.
@@Pejjy $1 times 24 (2400%) for 15 years equals $5.04857282E+20 To put it in perspective, the entire world's GDP in recent years has been in the ballpark of 80-100 trillion dollars annually, which means this number is roughly 5 to 6 million times greater than one year's global economic output.
Jo says Elon is talking over German politics. I, as a German, can assure you, that the AFD will not be in government for the next four years. And all other parties hate the AFD and hate Elon now. So I am not sure, if Tesla AI-Robots will be allowed in Germany and Europe within the next 4 years. I, as a Tesla shareholder, who believes Tesla will have the best tech, am convinced, that the growth of Tesla will be very much slowed down in Europe, because of Elons politics. And by the way: I don't think the AFD would be good for Tesla either, because that party is not like a republican party, they want to have total power for the government, which they run. No free speech, No democracy, no united Europe, no Euro...
Yes, winner take most, and with the most enormous moat imaginable. To really compete, another company would have to sell millions of EVs equipped with cameras like Tesla cars, and without FSD, and that is close to impossible today as everyone is way behind Tesla, but once Tesla has FSD, how does another company sell enough EVs to get the required data? If they manage to get the data, now spend many billions on compute power to develop the FSD program, and THEN you have to make EVs as cost efficiently as Tesla that are as durable and energy efficient, and THEN you have to enter markets and convince customers to switch to your service from one they are super happy with. Realistically you are talking $40 billion dollars to try to take share of the robo taxi market from Tesla, and probably fail. Other companies will get the customers who get banned by Tesla for bad behavior, that will be their market share.
You do know that Tesla will be delivering 500K+ vehicles just in Q4 of 2024 while that was the TOTAL deliveries of the full year 2022... (499K to be exact for the full year of 2022). By 2028, Tesla should be delivering 5 million+ annually. You are thinking linearly and not exponentially.
@Pejjy Tesla will be lucky to match last year's 1.81 million this year. That is not exponential growth. Toyota at it's zenith made 10 million vehicles. Just because Tesla can crank out more vehicles, doesn't mean they have buyers. I'm an all in bull, but when war breaks out with China, that will totally disrupt these projections.
Tesla has been severely underestimated, it doesn’t matter what the final price will be in 2030, what we all unanimously agree on is that this is a once in a generation wealth making opportunity
Overvalued most of the time, but I like to trade it.
I'm looking forward to NOT having a car. I'll use robo taxi every day. If I want to go on a road trip, I'll rent a car with fsd.
Me too! Robotaxis will be change everything!
Me too. I feel I'm ready for that added safety as well... hope the kinks get worked out!
I hope so, I can't wait to not be a slave to a stupid car anymore!
Hey guys I’m not a Biden fan but this was a blessing in disguise imo. Think about it! We were able to buy and collect Tesla stock at the lowest prices possible.
FACTS! 2021 - 2024 was a window of opportunity to pick up $TSLA! LFG!
@ 10k LFG
Hard to believe the stock could go to 10k? Even $2500-$3500 would be life changing. 10k is mind blowing.
Well, if tesla didnt split, you would already see those numbers.
Happy to see that you brought back Jo ! Love his detailed model. You should do a regular fireside chat with Jo 😊
This is ny preditions in the near future: 520 before new year, 700 in Q1, 600-800 volatility in Q2, 800-900 in Q3 and 900-1100 in Q4 2025
Nice, any specific reasons.
INSANE!
Mine prediction is 100 million per share
Than stock split? What split ratio do you think we will get?
@AsifAli-sw4th 1 share to 100000000 share split
You two have great chemistry! More videos please! I can listen to Jo for hours!
Great content
Thanks! LFG!
What a nice Christmas gift. A delightful conversation to finish up a stellar 24’…..thank you Pejjy.
I’m 23, living with my parents, and making $50-$60k a year. I started investing in 2021 and loaded up on TSLA (115 shares at $217) NVDA (150 shares at $22) and PLTR (294 shares at $30). My parents are letting me live with them until I’m 24. I didn’t want to move out until my portfolio hit $100k. My portfolio hit $100k two weeks ago, and my new goal is $200k, before moving out when I turn 24 in September. TSLA to the moon! I love Pejjy!
Just stay for longer and rake advantage of this opportunity
@ no question, gonna hold for at least 5-10 years
24? They should let you stay as long as you want. I mean if they’re not financially hurting and doing well what’s it to them that you stay until you’re 30? On your own you’re going to take a big hit on your investment and portfolio. It will go down fast from rent to groceries and all the other things that the cost of living drains your bank account.
@ Yeah but i still got to be a man and become self sufficient. I didn’t go to college, and can use the growth and experience. There’s value there too.
If this happens then.... whoah
Whoah indeed...
There is a high probability that it will
@@casvanmarcel Then there is a high probability I won't be working for much longer 😅
@@sophie3588 👍👍😂😂
Would save a lot of money since insurance companies seem to gouge Tesla customers on the insurance rates
I absolutely love the grab your popcorn, caption
Do you actually though? 👀
Most of those analysts are not best interests serving retail investors, they serve the financial institutions for a living.
Be good to clarify your math on the 1100% a year, taking the total growth and dividing it by the amount of years does not give you the yearly returns due to compounding. The CAGR of TSLA since listing is approximately 57% PA, still a great return. Thanks for your videos and all the best for 2025!
I have been buying into Tesla weekly since 2020. I don't intend on stopping before 2030. There is no better opportunity than Tesla.
Average of 1100% growth rate annually is incorrect, it's more like 37%. Jo is right.
How I calculated is I divided the total returns since IPO and that's the number I got as an average which is insane. I'm not sure if that's the even the right way to calculate it but it sounds right.
Total returns since IPO: 36,000%
Years since IPO: 24
36,000%/24 years = 1,500% average ROI
I think that's right, right? lol
Ipo was in 2010 so it's more like 15 years. Which would give 2400%
@@Pejjy Ipo was in 2010 so it's more like 15 years. Which would give 2400% which is of course wrong. Don't forget compound interest has interest on interest. 🤔
Holy f*ck LOL
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN NOW? 😂
@@Pejjy I think I know what you mean but I think it is poor math.
I don’t understand how it could that high? Don’t they spilt after 14 or 1500?
obviously they are discussing pre split numbers
If this pans out Tesla will make us a comfy retirement. 🚀🚀
Exactly. I'm expecting upwards of $3K but I certainly wouldn't mind $10K+ 🤩
@@Pejjy I won't be complaining at that level either, haha.
The part of the bot plan that I dont understand is what happens to all the workers that get displaced from jobs. And then they dont have enough money to buy the goods that the bots are making.
Find another job or UBI
LFGGGGG!!!!! / GO ALL IN 💰 💰 💰 / $5,000 by 2032 (conservative estimate) / MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎅 🎄
How about a realistic estimate?
LFG!!!
Amazing chat guys. I am from Norway, and most of the people here hate Elon and think hes stupid and has just been lucky his whole life 😂Its unreal, how do people have so little common sense and logic, while at the same time seeming smart otherwise? People go into attack mode if you say something positive about Musk, and even worse, Trump. I guess we should be thankful, since it is free money for us that use our brains to see the real world.
Jo goes into so much more detail a new world is knocking on the door and 98% are living their lives with no idea what is coming.
Prepare now or be left behind .
Superklasse!
LFG!
Nobody is buying something at IPO, so the 1100% increase per year is just complete nonsense.
My guys!
LET'S GO!
Jo is awesome.... he needs to be on more of the channels -- Herbert, Farzad, Dillon, etc.
Where does Jo originally come from? He sounds German
He totally reminds me of; Christoph waltz
Johann
Did you watch the video?
7125 shares. $219 basis. $1.5M bought 2020/2021. $3.3M today.
Excellent discussion! So true! Courageous.
Alpha doesn’t mean leverage. Alpha is orthogonal to market returns
FSD and Robotaxi service are not synonymous. A Robotaxi transportation service needs FSD, but FSD can exist without Robotaxis. The FSD software business is a high margin Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) type business that can be sold to customers, can be licensed to other auto manufacturers, and can have high margin consulting services to assist legacy automakers to implement the hardware and software to be able to incorporate FSD on their vehicles.
The Robotaxi service is a Transportation-as-a-Service (TaaS) business that needs FSD, but is an entirely different business than the FSD software business.
I’m so greatful I’ve been buying over the last few years and managed to get 150 shares which have gone up over 100 percent I’ve even been buying both my kids in there tax free stock saver Tesla shares which can’t touch them untill there 18 they only have ten each but I’m guessing in 18years ten shares will be enough to give them a helping hand plus I’m always adding each month
How can we get a copy of your Tesla model?
It’s right there on the screen
buying bread with tesla shares, that's genius -universal basic 'c'
They need to model McDonald's with fsd. And for tesla add burgers to the valuation. Why not?
Me laughing in my $4k used car. Ain't no way Robotax cheaper in the long run. But yes, for those folks financing $50K new cars every year that is destroying your family's P&L.
I’m not arguing with you Pete but you’re $4000 used car still has a running cost and the running cost is still more than using cyber taxis because you still have to pay for gas tires insurance oil changes, etc. But do the math yourself. Heck; just my cost of insurance is more expensive than me using a Robo taxi every day to work.
Hard to find good cheap used cars tho. They usually have problems that have to be fixed from the previous owner who neglected it. Works good for me since I do my own car repairs. Not everybody is in that position.
So you don’t pay for fuel, registration, insurance, maintenance and replacement when the piece of 💩 dies?
The real blockage to robot adoption will be unions.
UAW or IG Metall will never allow bots in the factories.
Countries that allow bots will have unemployment but also a manufacturing industry (and therefore taxes).
Countries that don't will just have unemployment.
Sheesh. A bull interviewing another bull. Can’t get more biased than that. 😅
This doesn't take dilution
What is the prediction if something happens to Elon?
Trump too. Both of them are key man risks. But with Trump it will present a good buying opportunity at the cost of short to intermediate term pain.
Thanks for the breakdown! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
Great video Pejjy! Thankyou so much! 👏👍
$10000 in 2028 is omfg moment sheesh is not enough 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wowww..awesome &.incredible discussion &.analysis ..blew me away :)))💕💕😆😆🙃🙃🎄🎄😎😎💕💕
10970 it is never going to split ?
Oh no… so people who live to analyze stock and predict future from a crystal ball are SO dead wrong? Like .. 5X wrong? What are you smoking
A quick summary and then an important question for the next video: 2030 price target is 26X or 183X with 26X being buy and hold and 183X being a mix of some risky or leveraged trade such as options and maybe options and margin and it is that that I would like to have a hypothetical conversation about is going in deep on the difference between the 26X strategy and the 183X strategy.
Divide it by 4 to be realistic
Holy Shit bro hahah
Thank you community. I gave the gift to my family of a mortgage free life. 🎉
Even with an outrageous p/e of 200, you would need $55/share earnings for your $10970. Earnings this year are $2.50, so you would need earnings to 22x in six years, which is a CAGR of 68%.
I'm interested to know Jo's leveraged plays. I was in June 2026 330 strike calls and did very well, but am out right now. Also I'm in TSLL and way up on those too. Will eventually move to TLSA shares.
Universal Basic Income is a terrible idea
What are you guys doing.
Nice Christmas tale
You guys are ridiculous. Tesla bros...🤑🤯
Pejjy math... taking the total % gain since IPO and dividing it by number years to get a per year % of 1100 or whatever, is VERY VERY wrong to say, because if you went back in time and applied that growth rate cumulatively the stock would be worth more $ today than there are atoms in the Universe.
This is how I did it:
Total returns since IPO: 36,000%
Years since IPO: 15
36,000%/15 years = 2,400% average annual ROI
It's crazy...
@Pejjy that is not the correct math.
@@Pejjy An initial investment of $10,000 at the IPO would have allowed the purchase of approximately 588 shares. After accounting for stock splits-a 5-for-1 split in 2020 and a 3-for-1 split in 2022-this holding would have increased to 8,820 shares. With the current share price around $462.28, this investment would now be valued at approximately $4,078,869.60, representing a total return of about 40,689% over approximately 14.5 years.
To calculate the average annualized return, we use the formula for compound annual growth rate (CAGR):
CAGR = [(Ending Value / Beginning Value) ^ (1 / Number of Years)] - 1
Plugging in the values:
CAGR = [($4,078,869.60 / $10,000) ^ (1 / 14.5)] - 1
CAGR ≈ 0.742, or 74.2%
Therefore, Tesla's stock has achieved an average annualized return of approximately 74.2% since its IPO.
@@Pejjy $1 times 24 (2400%) for 15 years equals $5.04857282E+20
To put it in perspective, the entire world's GDP in recent years has been in the ballpark of 80-100 trillion dollars annually, which means this number is roughly 5 to 6 million times greater than one year's global economic output.
Maybe 10k by 2040. It is aggressive. Hope im wrong
this price prediction is a sell signal to me almost...
okay, sell then lol
No politics please
Tesla stock is going to split no later than 2027 could be before.
Jo says Elon is talking over German politics. I, as a German, can assure you, that the AFD will not be in government for the next four years. And all other parties hate the AFD and hate Elon now. So I am not sure, if Tesla AI-Robots will be allowed in Germany and Europe within the next 4 years. I, as a Tesla shareholder, who believes Tesla will have the best tech, am convinced, that the growth of Tesla will be very much slowed down in Europe, because of Elons politics.
And by the way: I don't think the AFD would be good for Tesla either, because that party is not like a republican party, they want to have total power for the government, which they run. No free speech, No democracy, no united Europe, no Euro...
Speak for yourself I believe in humanity helping each other because why would you want to live by yourself
Yes, winner take most, and with the most enormous moat imaginable. To really compete, another company would have to sell millions of EVs equipped with cameras like Tesla cars, and without FSD, and that is close to impossible today as everyone is way behind Tesla, but once Tesla has FSD, how does another company sell enough EVs to get the required data? If they manage to get the data, now spend many billions on compute power to develop the FSD program, and THEN you have to make EVs as cost efficiently as Tesla that are as durable and energy efficient, and THEN you have to enter markets and convince customers to switch to your service from one they are super happy with. Realistically you are talking $40 billion dollars to try to take share of the robo taxi market from Tesla, and probably fail.
Other companies will get the customers who get banned by Tesla for bad behavior, that will be their market share.
I wonder if Tesla will split at 1200-2000 area ? God a good 5-1 would be a wet dream lool
They will. Be sure of it 😎
Why would that be a wet dream?😂
1st !!
LFG!!!!!
🔮 Hogwash!
So much bs. Disgusting
Stop posting nonsense.
There are ONLY 7 million teslas on the road today. That's taken 15 years. These numbers of having 100 million teslas on road by 2035 is ludicrous.
You do know that Tesla will be delivering 500K+ vehicles just in Q4 of 2024 while that was the TOTAL deliveries of the full year 2022... (499K to be exact for the full year of 2022).
By 2028, Tesla should be delivering 5 million+ annually.
You are thinking linearly and not exponentially.
@Pejjy Tesla will be lucky to match last year's 1.81 million this year. That is not exponential growth. Toyota at it's zenith made 10 million vehicles. Just because Tesla can crank out more vehicles, doesn't mean they have buyers. I'm an all in bull, but when war breaks out with China, that will totally disrupt these projections.
@@PejjyYour talking about 2020! In 2022 they produced 1,31 million
cybercab is a different car, its 60% fewer parts, and its a different model.
Germany is just a bully state