This was great Cue. Boy did you fall hard! You made very solid points. Appreciate you showing me “Falling with style” at the end, ride it like a surfboard! 😂
Hey Cue...Steve here from Canada. Great vid!! I took a bad fall practicing this past summer, exactly the same as you did in your video. Great presentation of how important it is to keep your feet on the floor boards until the bike stops moving in a drop. Keep up the great content!! Congratulations on your retirement as well.
Great video you hit the nail on the head with all your points. When cones get cold they get hard and will slide if you hit one. This is something you have to also be aware of when practicing in the winter months.
@@ProriderCentralTexasUA-cam great point! I didn't think about the cones being cold. I'll definitely use fewer cones in the future and avoid using these cones where I might run wide
Cue, thank you for the video, I share the same affliction of immediately trying to put my feet down when I feel like the bike is going down. As a kid, I rode motocross and it was common practice to put your feet down. I absolutely know that I shouldn’t be doing it, but when I start to lean a little bit more than my comfort limit, my foot has gone down rather than safely staying put on the floorboard. I don’t lean anywhere as radical as you are but adding that mantra I think it will help me out a bit. I don’t think that this is discouraging at all, but rather very informative for those that are trying to improve. Be and ride safe and happy new year to you.
Cue, another great video for many reasons. You like to use a list, so here's mine: 1. Your video not only helps you learn, but it also helps others. As my late father would say, “See in another’s calamity the ills that ye shall avoid!” 2. This is a textbook example of a “Quality Drop”. A quality drop is one that allows you to learn and get better. “The road to success is paved with little failures.” 3. Thank you for recognizing the benefit of proper riding gear! In the video you said, “I was cocky, and I didn’t expect to fall.” Far too many folks practice without a helmet because they falsely believe, ‘It’s low speed, I won’t hit my head.’ All professional training schools and instructors mandate a helmet because they understand the risks. Thank you for setting an example worthy of emulation! 4. As for your sliding cones, ‘Been there, done that!’ All cones are not created equal, get cones you can run over without squirting the front tire, especially when cold. (Future video on cone types?) 5. I genuinely applaud your willingness and passion in sharing these videos with others. You, sir, are making a difference for others with your humble and honest approach to self-reflection.
Good you’re ok Cue.. you just proved that doing something you’ve done 100 x before may not end up just another day. It’s a good reminder to all of us… and I’m guilty of not telling anyone when I’m going practising for just a little bit. Always enjoy all your videos my friend. And enjoy your retirement !
Cue - honest assessment is always a great way to learn and man, you’ve brought it droves my man! Appreciate your candor and honesty with your videos. Stay safe out there and be careful brother. 🤜🏼😎
Been on the pavement twice. Good leathers, armor, gloves, and helmet…want to upgrade from 3/4 to full face. It is a learning process with a steep curve. Glad you shared!
I'm glad to hear you're okay. Yes, quality gear reduces the impact. During our course, we didn't require participants to wear all the gear, but a good helmet was mandatory. Wishing you continued success in your endeavors.
Remember the days when you could “hey shipmate!” someone who wasn’t wearing their proper PPE?! 😂 Thanks for the PSA man. I too need to work on staying planted and in control of my bike when riding, or dropping it, lol. Glad you didn’t end up too hurt and were able to share the lessons learned with us.
Even though I was only in the Navy for a few years, I learned alot. One of those lessons came from a Sr Chief who had served on the USS Cole. He told me that sailors died on the Cole from ineffective use of PPE. He took safety very seriously. I think he would have been pretty disappointed if he saw what I was wearing in this video. Lesson learned......again!
@ I served with two ITs that were on the Cole when it was attacked. Their recounts of the incident were eye opening. In a way, you’re right, it’s similar to falling on our motors in that we should always be prepared for the worst case scenario with gear. Great talking with you as always! Thanks for making such great content.
So glad your okay from that man. I have not done any of those courses yet. That is awesome though to master those turns and be that precise with your motorcycle.
You can do it. Just takes time and lots of practice. You also have to get over the fear of falling....it's going to happen. But every fall gets you closer to perfection.
Such a great video! Mike & I both had drops at practice yesterday and Mike’s was really scary! I got most of it on video and it was the same reason. Those cones! Definitely will change them out 👍
It happens to all of us - especially as we try to get tighter and more precise in slow speed maneuvers. Warm up is definitely a key aspect that's so often overlooked. I have the same cones - best bet is to use them in certain key places (inside of tight corners, for example) to ensure your line of travel is where it needs to be and use other cones for the pattern boundaries. Great job - Cajun Craze isn't an easy pattern!
First of all I gotta ask if you’re okay? Great video explaining do’s and don’ts. Every rider goes down it’s just a matter of time. We fall down but we get up
Great insight CUE. Keep the feet is the one I saw and worried most about. When I first started slow speed practice from Roberts videos, I too dropped a foot, my right foot. I broke a toe even with full length boots. I have now practiced actually falling! Watch a few of the Motorcycle Drop Guard videos, it will give you the confidence to stay footed. Also, see practice 118 and watch Allen keep them planted. Thanks CUE!
Ouch!..good advice Cue, I try to practice little balance techniques, track stands; used to road race bicycles..and staying in the friction zone helps..anyways, glad you're okay, keep providing great advice..
Yes definitely agree about the cone causing the slide. New things to look out for are patched of oil on the ground in real world situations. Glad to see you're ok.
Great info Cue,long time rider here.i always practice with my 2006 flhr std model.tried someone else RK with apes…man did this bike handled badly for cone practice..i know you get used to your bike but with these bars i looked like a novice in practice…thanks for your great info and vids..
Good heavens, ouch! We all appreciate you sharing the wins and losses. This is a great presentation on what happened here and how to prevent it. All the best to 2025 and retirement to you and your family.
Hey brother. All us coneheads know the path to superior slow speed skills includes training to failure. The smartest thing you did that day was wearing the helmet. Even though you said you hit the back of your head on the unrecorded pass, I am pretty sure I see the side of your head do a little bounce on the pavement on the one you recorded. I shudder every time I see slow speed skills training without a helmet. Now add riding boots with ankle protection and leather gloves and you are minimizing the risk of the more serious injuries you could encounter training precision slow speed skills. I will practice in a t shirt and lightweight pants in the summer- understanding the risk of getting scrapes and road rash, painful but not likely anything serious. I absolutely agree (through the same lesson process you just took) not to use those plastic square edged cones anywhere your front tire will be in a lean. And finally, one other lesson I learned …..but was blinded by the light…..those motorcycle drop guards actually cause the motorcycle to slide when dropped. They are great for drop protection and they look great, BUT - shaft collars will keep the shiny parts off the ground and STOP the bike when dropped. Or you can follow L&L leadership advice to just let the crash bars do their job and replace them when they get ugly. Financially that’s a wash if you compare the cost of drop guards to the cost of new engine and saddlebag guards. Anyways - just sharing thoughts and lessons as I interpret them. Great riding Cue! Hope to see you at training or a comp in 2025!
Cue, i fell like that once, but I actually broke my ankle. Not fun. From what i saw, you were SO close to duplicating my mistake. Regarding cones, my front tire has slipped on the cones with the black bases, so, I'm not aware of any other cones.
Yes sir. I grossly overestimated my abilities that day! Or maybe I overestimated those cones! either way, I went down. I'm just glad it wasn't worse. I could have spent Christmas Eve in the hospital
The right gear help’s, but we don’t think we are going to crash anytime we mount up for a ride, keeping your feet on the floorboards is something I really need to learn on riding cruiser’s I came from a background of riding dirt bike’s and most of us always use our feet off the peg’s for tight turns and balance, thanks for the lesson 👍🏽
I nearly broke my ankle putting my foot down while making a turn. It's a tough lesson to learn for those who ride heavy bikes.....but we have to remind ourselves constantly to keep our feet on the boards and use the clutch.
Hey man, keeping those feet up in a fall is very important! What you can do is a repeated stop-go-stop-go, complete stops without putting your feet down whatsoever. It takes a few times to stop trying to save it when you start to fall but not too bad
I normally practice in a middle school parking lot on the weekends. It's very rare that they have activities on the weekends, but if they do, I leave. Elementary schools are even better....but the middle school is closer to my house. I haven't asked and they haven't complained. Sometimes the local Sheriffs department will practice with me
YEP! Keep your feet on the floorboards. That ankle snaps quickly once it goes under the saddlebag. Alright... Enough complaining! Brush it off and get back to it, mister! LOL
That’s what happens when you do circus maneuvers on a motorcycle. Not once, has ANYONE ever, HAD to do a “figure 8” or a “snowman” on a public street for any reason, anywhere, whatsoever.
Using that logic, motorcycles are completely unnecessary. Why not drive a car. The maneuvers that I practice are intended to prepare me for emergency situations. I hope that I never need to use them. But if I do, I will have an opportunity to ride away instead of being a sitting duck. Is a "figure 8" necessary? Yes. It teaches you how to transition from full lock left to right.
@ Let us know the last time you had to “transition” from a full lock handlebar position from either side or the other on the public roadway. I will guarantee you have NEVER had to do that. No one has, ever. You are simply taking a vehicle and showing the limited capabilities it has when it is being used. And with YOUR logic, teaching a pilot to push the limits of an aircraft during training is an acceptable use of risk. It’s not.
Glad you didn't get hurt worse. Did you have difficulty getting the bike upright by yourself? I find it very hard :( Also, I don't see the jacket you're wearing, in the product list? Thanks
That ground is a helluva lot harder now than when we were young.
@@markrogers4983 that ground is a great teacher too!
That is probably the truest statement I've ever heard.😅 Those things that used to heal in a few days take a few months to heal After you break 50.
@@romesyoutubechannel5356 nailed it!
This was great Cue. Boy did you fall hard! You made very solid points. Appreciate you showing me “Falling with style” at the end, ride it like a surfboard! 😂
Yes sir. You and Robert have the 2 best drops I have ever seen!
Hey Cue...Steve here from Canada. Great vid!! I took a bad fall practicing this past summer, exactly the same as you did in your video. Great presentation of how important it is to keep your feet on the floor boards until the bike stops moving in a drop. Keep up the great content!! Congratulations on your retirement as well.
@@SH-pu6gz hope you're doing well!
Great video you hit the nail on the head with all your points. When cones get cold they get hard and will slide if you hit one. This is something you have to also be aware of when practicing in the winter months.
@@ProriderCentralTexasUA-cam great point! I didn't think about the cones being cold. I'll definitely use fewer cones in the future and avoid using these cones where I might run wide
Cue, thank you for the video, I share the same affliction of immediately trying to put my feet down when I feel like the bike is going down. As a kid, I rode motocross and it was common practice to put your feet down. I absolutely know that I shouldn’t be doing it, but when I start to lean a little bit more than my comfort limit, my foot has gone down rather than safely staying put on the floorboard. I don’t lean anywhere as radical as you are but adding that mantra I think it will help me out a bit. I don’t think that this is discouraging at all, but rather very informative for those that are trying to improve. Be and ride safe and happy new year to you.
Retirement is dangerous!!! Stay safe Cue🤙
Thanks! Drops are a part of the learning process. I'm good!
Cue, another great video for many reasons. You like to use a list, so here's mine:
1. Your video not only helps you learn, but it also helps others. As my late father would say, “See in another’s calamity the ills that ye shall avoid!”
2. This is a textbook example of a “Quality Drop”. A quality drop is one that allows you to learn and get better. “The road to success is paved with little failures.”
3. Thank you for recognizing the benefit of proper riding gear! In the video you said, “I was cocky, and I didn’t expect to fall.” Far too many folks practice without a helmet because they falsely believe, ‘It’s low speed, I won’t hit my head.’ All professional training schools and instructors mandate a helmet because they understand the risks. Thank you for setting an example worthy of emulation!
4. As for your sliding cones, ‘Been there, done that!’ All cones are not created equal, get cones you can run over without squirting the front tire, especially when cold. (Future video on cone types?)
5. I genuinely applaud your willingness and passion in sharing these videos with others. You, sir, are making a difference for others with your humble and honest approach to self-reflection.
Thanks Ken! I have been blessed with some good instructors!
@@RidingandWrenchingCue, can you recommend non slip cones to us newbies? Thanks
Glad you’re ok! Even the slow crashes can really hurt you! Great lesson to be learned
Good you’re ok Cue.. you just proved that doing something you’ve done 100 x before may not end up just another day. It’s a good reminder to all of us… and I’m guilty of not telling anyone when I’m going practising for just a little bit. Always enjoy all your videos my friend. And enjoy your retirement !
Thank you! This even could have ruined Christmas for me!
Good heads up! Play by play/lessons learned! 👍
Excellent tips, and putting that clip of Joe riding the guards really illustrated the point perfectly. Good vid Cue
Joe has one of the coolest falls I have seen. Actually, he has 2 falls that are priceless and is SOLEY RESPONSIBLE for one of my priceless falls!😂
Cue - honest assessment is always a great way to learn and man, you’ve brought it droves my man! Appreciate your candor and honesty with your videos. Stay safe out there and be careful brother. 🤜🏼😎
Thank you!
Been on the pavement twice. Good leathers, armor, gloves, and helmet…want to upgrade from 3/4 to full face. It is a learning process with a steep curve. Glad you shared!
I'm glad to hear you're okay. Yes, quality gear reduces the impact. During our course, we didn't require participants to wear all the gear, but a good helmet was mandatory. Wishing you continued success in your endeavors.
@@BootsandJeansRiders lesson learned.....better in the parking lot than in the street.
So glad you did not hurt yourself too badly. That was a heck of a slide!
Yes it was! I will be back in the parking lot as soon as the weather is decent.
Remember the days when you could “hey shipmate!” someone who wasn’t wearing their proper PPE?! 😂 Thanks for the PSA man. I too need to work on staying planted and in control of my bike when riding, or dropping it, lol. Glad you didn’t end up too hurt and were able to share the lessons learned with us.
Even though I was only in the Navy for a few years, I learned alot. One of those lessons came from a Sr Chief who had served on the USS Cole. He told me that sailors died on the Cole from ineffective use of PPE. He took safety very seriously. I think he would have been pretty disappointed if he saw what I was wearing in this video. Lesson learned......again!
@ I served with two ITs that were on the Cole when it was attacked. Their recounts of the incident were eye opening. In a way, you’re right, it’s similar to falling on our motors in that we should always be prepared for the worst case scenario with gear. Great talking with you as always! Thanks for making such great content.
So glad your okay from that man. I have not done any of those courses yet. That is awesome though to master those turns and be that precise with your motorcycle.
You can do it. Just takes time and lots of practice. You also have to get over the fear of falling....it's going to happen. But every fall gets you closer to perfection.
@ Yes sir. I’m with you on that man.
Such a great video! Mike & I both had drops at practice yesterday and Mike’s was really scary! I got most of it on video and it was the same reason. Those cones! Definitely will change them out 👍
Thanks Lauri!
It happens to all of us - especially as we try to get tighter and more precise in slow speed maneuvers. Warm up is definitely a key aspect that's so often overlooked.
I have the same cones - best bet is to use them in certain key places (inside of tight corners, for example) to ensure your line of travel is where it needs to be and use other cones for the pattern boundaries. Great job - Cajun Craze isn't an easy pattern!
First of all I gotta ask if you’re okay? Great video explaining do’s and don’ts. Every rider goes down it’s just a matter of time. We fall down but we get up
@@LYeah-dp9mp I'm good. Just a couple of minor scrapes
Great insight CUE. Keep the feet is the one I saw and worried most about. When I first started slow speed practice from Roberts videos, I too dropped a foot, my right foot. I broke a toe even with full length boots. I have now practiced actually falling! Watch a few of the Motorcycle Drop Guard videos, it will give you the confidence to stay footed. Also, see practice 118 and watch Allen keep them planted. Thanks CUE!
That's some great riding there! regardless of the drops
Glad all good and you get to tell us about it. 🤙
Ouch! Great tips and reminders Cue.
appreciate your tips---glad you're not injured seriously
Thank you!
Great advice,especially the type of cones! Never thought of that! Glad you are ok! Have a Blessed 2025!
I'm good. I'm looking forward to getting back out and practicing once the weather warms up.
Ouch!..good advice Cue, I try to practice little balance techniques, track stands; used to road race bicycles..and staying in the friction zone helps..anyways, glad you're okay, keep providing great advice..
Yes definitely agree about the cone causing the slide. New things to look out for are patched of oil on the ground in real world situations. Glad to see you're ok.
great point! Thanks!
Wearing proper gear when even just practicing in the parking lot is important. Ish happens.
@@HDVIBE agreed! Lesson learned the heard way
Amen my man.
Great info Cue,long time rider here.i always practice with my 2006 flhr std model.tried someone else RK with apes…man did this bike handled badly for cone practice..i know you get used to your bike but with these bars i looked like a novice in practice…thanks for your great info and vids..
Have an Apple Watch that can call a loved one when it detects a drop or fall.
Good heavens, ouch! We all appreciate you sharing the wins and losses. This is a great presentation on what happened here and how to prevent it. All the best to 2025 and retirement to you and your family.
Cue, I really enjoy your videos. They are well done and informative. Keep up the excellent work! God Bless and keep riding!
Thank you! More to come!
Hey Cue, thank you for always being so transparent ✊🏾✊🏾
Thanks! There is no shame in dropping it.....pick it up and keep riding!
Yes, I’ve been riding over 40 years and I’ve dropped every bike I’ve owned ✊🏾
Hey brother. All us coneheads know the path to superior slow speed skills includes training to failure. The smartest thing you did that day was wearing the helmet. Even though you said you hit the back of your head on the unrecorded pass, I am pretty sure I see the side of your head do a little bounce on the pavement on the one you recorded. I shudder every time I see slow speed skills training without a helmet. Now add riding boots with ankle protection and leather gloves and you are minimizing the risk of the more serious injuries you could encounter training precision slow speed skills. I will practice in a t shirt and lightweight pants in the summer- understanding the risk of getting scrapes and road rash, painful but not likely anything serious. I absolutely agree (through the same lesson process you just took) not to use those plastic square edged cones anywhere your front tire will be in a lean. And finally, one other lesson I learned …..but was blinded by the light…..those motorcycle drop guards actually cause the motorcycle to slide when dropped. They are great for drop protection and they look great, BUT - shaft collars will keep the shiny parts off the ground and STOP the bike when dropped. Or you can follow L&L leadership advice to just let the crash bars do their job and replace them when they get ugly. Financially that’s a wash if you compare the cost of drop guards to the cost of new engine and saddlebag guards. Anyways - just sharing thoughts and lessons as I interpret them. Great riding Cue! Hope to see you at training or a comp in 2025!
Well said, Larry!!
Tip overs hurt when you get older. Fun channel.
You got that right! I'm ok now....just waiting for some decent weather so I can get back out there
Cue, i fell like that once, but I actually broke my ankle. Not fun. From what i saw, you were SO close to duplicating my mistake. Regarding cones, my front tire has slipped on the cones with the black bases, so, I'm not aware of any other cones.
Ok, old man, ur getting too old to be falling, but practice makes perfect. u have come a long way bro
Yes sir. I grossly overestimated my abilities that day! Or maybe I overestimated those cones! either way, I went down. I'm just glad it wasn't worse. I could have spent Christmas Eve in the hospital
Props to you, I would have left the cones and went home crying 😢😂
I took the cones home....and then I cried😂
The right gear help’s, but we don’t think we are going to crash anytime we mount up for a ride, keeping your feet on the floorboards is something I really need to learn on riding cruiser’s I came from a background of riding dirt bike’s and most of us always use our feet off the peg’s for tight turns and balance, thanks for the lesson 👍🏽
I nearly broke my ankle putting my foot down while making a turn. It's a tough lesson to learn for those who ride heavy bikes.....but we have to remind ourselves constantly to keep our feet on the boards and use the clutch.
@ you absolutely right and I’m not a spring chicken anymore
I felt that in NY.
The fall felt around the world
Hey man, keeping those feet up in a fall is very important! What you can do is a repeated stop-go-stop-go, complete stops without putting your feet down whatsoever. It takes a few times to stop trying to save it when you start to fall but not too bad
Good idea! I'll definitely add that to the practice routine. Thanks for sharing!
Where do you normally practice? And how do you approach a business about practicing in their parking lot?
I normally practice in a middle school parking lot on the weekends. It's very rare that they have activities on the weekends, but if they do, I leave. Elementary schools are even better....but the middle school is closer to my house. I haven't asked and they haven't complained. Sometimes the local Sheriffs department will practice with me
lol, next beer on me, that was funny my friend
You owe me more than 1 beer!
YEP! Keep your feet on the floorboards. That ankle snaps quickly once it goes under the saddlebag. Alright... Enough complaining! Brush it off and get back to it, mister! LOL
I tried practicing a couple of days later. I now have a bad case of the Yips. I will work it out....but, this really sucks!
@RidingandWrenching you know what you're doing. You'll be fine.
That’s what happens when you do circus maneuvers on a motorcycle. Not once, has ANYONE ever, HAD to do a “figure 8” or a “snowman” on a public street for any reason, anywhere, whatsoever.
Using that logic, motorcycles are completely unnecessary. Why not drive a car. The maneuvers that I practice are intended to prepare me for emergency situations. I hope that I never need to use them. But if I do, I will have an opportunity to ride away instead of being a sitting duck. Is a "figure 8" necessary? Yes. It teaches you how to transition from full lock left to right.
@
Let us know the last time you had to “transition” from a full lock handlebar position from either side or the other on the public roadway. I will guarantee you have NEVER had to do that. No one has, ever. You are simply taking a vehicle and showing the limited capabilities it has when it is being used. And with YOUR logic, teaching a pilot to push the limits of an aircraft during training is an acceptable use of risk. It’s not.
I’m interested in that helmet. What kind are you wearing? Great content
@@Kingjames313 it's a Badass Helmet. Some Harley dealers sell them. I purchased mine at Suburban Harley Davidson near Milwaukee Wi
Glad you didn't get hurt worse. Did you have difficulty getting the bike upright by yourself? I find it very hard :(
Also, I don't see the jacket you're wearing, in the product list? Thanks
@@tomm9493 there is a technique to picking up the bike. As long as you don't have bad knees or a back problems, it's not too difficult
@@tomm9493 beyondriders.com/collections/protective-flannel-shirts-for-men-solid-colors
@@tomm9493 they also have mesh jackets (they call them shirts) which is what I was wearing in this video
Probably couldn't ride with me as no crashing in my group.
No protective gear on. The fall would have not hurt as much.
Agreed. I will be wearing proper gear in future practice sessions.
🏍️😮✌🏼
Full face helmet
@@Greenteam21 I don't do slow speed practice with a full face, however I use a full face at all other times while riding
Cue your getting too old to fall like that!
You got that right!
Love your show!
Thank you!