SALSANERD: DC Style On2 Salsa Turn Pattern Workshop @ Mr. Mambo's 3/23/13
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- SALSANERD: Jimmy & Luz's DC Style On2 Salsa Turn Pattern Workshop @ Mr. Mambo's 3/23/13
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Shot at Mr. Mambo's in Washington DC.
Great dancing... even while teaching, this guy looks like he's always having fun.
WOW!!! You guys make it seem so Easy&Smooth! Love your style!
For a first date you guys are really hitting it off
Beautiful
Beautiful style
God Damn.. That is Smoove.
A LA LA E LALA #Agua such a great song to dance to guguanco
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ROOFL world of warcraft champion!
Love it!!
Nice style man, make a video on guy movement and musicality!
L.A Style #1....
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this version of the is song is from "direct Latin influence" a la la e lala
Excellent. :)
nice Pattern!
good style NY
What is the name and version of song please you guys are the best Jimmy & Luz Beautiful style
1:19
What version of 'A LA LA E' is used for the Demo?? I love it!
"La la la", Direct Latin Influence.
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Hi Salsanerd, thats a really nice guaguanco intro song. who's that version from?
Six seven and one..
Some good stuff here. Some problems too. The one thing I would work on is not moving as a dancer in the same way as everyone else in the scene moves. And I say dancer not partner. Once something has become an institution it is dead. The body movement, the over-all flavor of the dancing, some afro-cuban or better yet hip-hop/popping classes would greatly improve what is missing. The main problem is many salsa dancers cant actually dance and have never been in a relationship with their own instrument in the way solo dancers have. Which is sacrilegious because this is all supposed to be street dancing. The last thing I would add is that there is no cuban motion. The basic is missing which gives it an almost east coast swing like flow.
Thx for feedback and very well put! I whole heartedly agree, more rumba or folklore for myself, I love afro cuban classes! And taking dance classes from other disciplines is never a bad thing. We can always learn more.
You could say the same about solo dancers - they so often fail at partner dancing, because it's no longer just about them. The spatial awareness and body mechanics during partnerwork is completely diff, and you're directing/being directed at this point. It's a very different discipline.
I do have to say that I disagree with you on your views on an institution and the heart of dancing. Dance is incredibly intimate and personal. It is also highly subjective. It's an expression of ones soul. I would argue that many "solo" dancers can't actually dance either.... they memorize choreography.
There's only a very few folks in any genre who actually get down, and I think both you and I have the same definition here.
SALSANERD So often especially in the Latin and Swing scene due to the social and unstructured amateur aspect, many dancers personalize everything to an unhealthy point. Glad you could see things for what they are.
As far as solo dancing I can go to almost any high school in my area and find 20-30 HipHop dancers that can already get representation by an agent and actually really work as a dancer. And all of them can partner or learn to partner in a fraction of the time it took every member of Yamulee to. You see this on shows like sytycd. Its because they actually know how to dance. And the form itself doesnt support conformity. It demands constant recreation by its very nature. In contrast I can go to SF, Miami, DC, and find the same scene, the same shines, the same boring performances with little variation and few stand outs. Partnering is not dancing any more then technique is. Dancing is dancing. Emotional storytelling is dancing.
As far as institutions the point was about conformity as stated above not soul or subjectivity. To say solo dancers cant dance because they are only doing coreo is to ignore most of reality and dance history. I can type in names on here for 3 months straight and find people battling, free-styling, doing one shot videos, its kind of the whole point of the form. Let alone it goes way back to hundreds of different artists like the Nicholas Brothers and a plethora of others. Saying coreo is the problem is like saying actors aren't relevant because the words are already written down. The whole point is to create an honest moment.
The problem isnt salsa its the dancers or lack of. The salsa scene is so basic and repetitious in foundation that my mother could see it let alone another dancer. When I take dancers to a congress or clubs they love the style and aspects of shared space, spontaneity and counter balance. But find the performances and basic abilities of the dancers laughable. This is a shame because the art-form is being short changed and that's sacrilegious. Its not like there haven't been many examples in the scene either. Frankie Martinez, Matos, LOL the whole history of Gaugaunco. Theres really no excuse to see another stiff back broken fish body roll.
The One You have some interesting points. So you are pretty much saying that most dancers these days lack the creativity? You feel that everything in reference to the salsa community is cookie cutter?
while i actually agree with many things, I disagree with "all of them can partner in a fraction of time". Maybe as woman. That is: if you know how to dance well, you can learn how to get led pretty quickly. Learning to lead on the other hand, takes a lot of practice even for very basic turns and leads. Leading someone who can dance well, and getting led by someone who knows how to lead well are two distinct things. Many leads look boring, because they focus so much on the woman. But yes, always: if you dance well, you can learn any other dance quicker. No big science there.
but my main point is that you are missing the point all together. The reason why salsa is so popular around the globe is because it is what it is. It is a lot of technique turns with some shines. Frankie martinez basically ditches his partner every 15 seconds and does a shine, but has generally very badly lead technique that is boring. Well, if you like it, thats great. But that's not the reason most people like it. Let's just take an example, skate boarding. You cannot just do whatever you want with your skateboard on your feet. You can though get off the skateboard, stand next to it and do some really cool body rolls and shuffles, yeah, because there is no skateboard on your feet. But skaters love to skateboard for some reason. They do the same tricks over and over again, then do more difficult tricks and so on. You are into urban dancing? solo dancing around doin jumps, kicks and kneeling on the floor waving your head in circles? well good for you, honestly, great! But it's something entirely different. Just enjoy what you like. I for example enjoy watching good urban dancers. Would I want to spend time learning it? maybe a bit, sure. But I will choose learning a new fun turn with my salsa partner any day over it. I don't know why, and I don't care really.
Fortunately I can actually dance. And not just B-Boy but wreck it in Salsa and Bachata. What you are describing is a shortcoming that is being disguised as a variable. Like to choose one or the other. The body is the instrument. If you learn to play well you can play anything. Especially when you understand the methodology to acquire those skills. Furthermore if you have groove, actual rhythm intelligence, soul, you can truly do it. When you don't focus on styles and focus on the body as one organism you can learn all of them. It still takes hard work but it comes with the intangible that a child in the street spinning on his head or a kid in the DR doing a basic groove have. That which most people trying , counting, do not. Most salsa dancers cant dance. Its not because its hard to lead its supposed to be hard. Its also hard to play piano, a hard task is what you are there to do. Its purely because they don't know how to, they never learned. Take away the woman and the shines and refinement of the body motion is more often than not primitive. The Frankies of the scene are few and far inbetween. And even his partner work is better than most these days. This is also due to the fact that many people, especially men, come into salsa and bachata at a later age and start dancing for many social reasons where in hip hop, more young people are interested and for different motivations. Doing body rolls next to your skateboard is not skating. But dancing whether partnering or solo is, you are describing an example that doesn't work. Also woman are not wood they are an equal part of the moment. It is indeed again hard to lead or follow and dance but again that's what we are talking about isnt it. Succeeding at it because well its called dancing right. And while partnering can be dancing it can also just be partnering, the two are not the same. My friends who started salsa that were already pros at hip hop killed the learning curve because they got proper instruction by me. They could perform and social dance in a very short time and so called local veterans looked on like they were outsiders. Is there value to what many people in the scene do...yes. But its not at the level that it should be if they learned to use their body fluid and truely. The truth is most salsa dancers and bachata dancers while living in the bubble of the scene do not consider themselves or the work on the same level as what they see in the media, video, so you think you can dance, etc... They look up to that above what they are doing. And that is why they fail.
I was wondering how long does it take to dance like this ??
Between 2 years and never.. depending on your talent and motivation ;-)
上手に練習し、音楽やリズムを聞いていれば、1 年も経たないうちに上手に踊れるようになります。
can somebody tells me is. this one 1 or on 2?
+HC Li 2
On2 the man steps back on 1 and breaks forward on 2, steps in place on 3 and finished 5,6,7 forward. The woman steps forward on 1, breaks back on 2 and steps in place on 3. She then finishes 5,6,7 back. On1 is the opposite. When he leads her notice after he says 5,6,7 he steps back in 1. That's how you can tell On2 or On1.
+HC Li Hi HC, this is On2!
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A LA LA E LA LA - LUISITO AYALA
This is the song of this video.
On2 salsa dancers ssh o not step on the 1 or 5. You are dancing to the tiempo of the music which is on the countss123 567. You are dancibg NY style popularized by EddieTorres which still on 1. You may think you are dancing on2 but if you step on the 1 and the 5 you aredancibg on1.
So commercial !!
What is the name and version of song please you guys are the best Jimmy & Luz Beautiful style
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