The exit sign is wired for 277 volts because a lot of commercial buildings are wired for it. I have installed over 300 of these during my work life. I have an old exit sign I believe came out of an old theater in downtown Sacramento. You would have had a field day in my boom truck with all the different bulbs and ballasts. You are absolutely right about the led light, hit and miss if it works. The drivers are the weak link in leds. You made a good choice with the fiberglass ladder. It reminded me of my plastic bucket that I hung off my aerial bucket. They are handy when your in the air. Great show, thank you
Jess- At first I thought it was like the universal power supplies that will operate from 100-240 volts but soon learned about the commercial lighting current. Thanks!!! 😃👍
I replaced my 25 year old 6’ wood ladder last summer with a Gorilla ladder. I love it! My Son liked it so much that I gave him one for Christmas. In fact, I received that 6’ wood ladder for Christmas. My wife put my Son’s name on the to/from tag that year even though he was only 6 years old at the time. I remember how excited he was when I got it. That made it even more special for me to give him his first ladder for his first home.
That double platform ladder looks amazing! Simeone put some design thought into it for sure!!! At first I thought that exit light was a tritium exit light. ;)
“New is not better, new is just new.” I love this! Spot on! Thanks for the review of the Gorilla ladder. Lucky is looking good. Excellent video, Scout. Many thanks! 👍
Those led ceiling lights are quite nice, I put one in our living room and one in hallway; found both at Lowe’s, with the selectable light color the major reason. Exit signs are those things that “hide in plain sight”, most don’t think about them, until there is an emergency. Some buildings are so convoluted that even with signs it would be difficult to get out in a hurry, let alone when panic sets in. Great info as usual, Thanks.
I got a gorilla 🦍 about five years ago fantastic Ladder no problems with it they have really thought out the designs Great show John god bless take care 🇺🇸🇳🇿🗽🦅🇮🇱🪖🐕45-47
Never heard of a gorilla ladder but it's a good idea as i still use a empty five gallon bucket for the low stuff in the gar/shop...i may break down and get one..the tray sold me...i think...🖖
Right on John! 🙌 That tray on the ladder is a great idea! I’ve got a Gorilla ladder but no tray like that. Can’t wait to see the display of lights! Thanks John, always great content!
i had to replace my ladder too and i bought that Gorilla in aluminum, it's one of the best ladder i have i got the plateform too, that you can walk on you know? feels super sturdy and well built, lots of features
Anyone else notice the grenade and M-60? Pity to the one who breaks into that house. Every time he goes into the attic I see something fascinating new thing. I’d love an in depth tour of the attic someday. It’s amazing. Thanks John for another great video. I always learn something new. You’re the internet’s favorite shop teacher.
I have 2 Gorilla ladders, 4' and 6' - I love them; their light weight, top platform and their baskets! Also, you have to know the "Belt Buckle Rule". Any time you are reaching out on a ladder, keep your belt buckle within the 4 feet of your ladder and you will never tip over. The wobbling ladders can be easily fixed by setting one of the "long legs" on the ground and the opposite "long leg" straight over it. Then pull/ push the two towards each other. This will adjust the metal hinges just enough to let all 4 feet set flat/ on the same plane and alleviate the wobble. It's kind of like you using the Dake! There will be a lot spring-back to account for, but I have corrected 100 ladders this way.
@@scroungasworkshop4663 I'm sure they do so, but things get stacked and packed during shipping and handling causing misalignment. Either way, I can adjust 20 ladders quicker than taking one back for a replacement.
@@royreynolds108 Probably not mismade, just bent out of alignment during shipping and handling. Again, I can adjust several ladders quicker than returning one... And there absolutely nothing wrong with them.
Hi Scout, you’ll never regret buying a high quality ladder. Gorilla sell their ladders here in Australia too. New is just new, that’s gold👍 Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
Hi John, I have doing a lot of handyman work down here in FL. The first thing I bought was the 5ft aluminum gorilla. It’s super light and strong. I highly recommend it!
Werner used to make an awesome ladder. I own 5 of them. A couple are starting to wear out. I’ll take a hard look at those Gorilla ones, as yours looks great.
@ I have a 6 foot fiberglass Werner that I bought 27 years ago when I first opened my business. I have installed and maintained so much Carwash equipment while standing on that thing that it has become very sentimental to me. I took it home a couple of years ago to semi - retired it, and now I use it at home three or four times a week. It’s possible that Werner is having labor problems. Labor problems, equal quality problems. It’s sad when a good brand goes downhill.
Great video mate. I have a Gorilla brand step ladder and it is fantastic. Can’t climb ladders anymore but my wife uses it a lot. Please be careful climbing it alone. It’s easy to fall and have no one around to help. Don’t ask me how I know. Love the exit sign and your plans for the lighting set up. Looking forward to seeing that.
Hi John. I agree that trying to get something good when you order something is really a crap shoot. Not like it was years ago. Really sad for our country. This was a great video. Take care and be safe on that ladder. Good luck. 👍👍❤...
Larry- We need to bring pride back into our lives. I understand why people give up on it because in many jobs you’re just a number and there is no reward for a job well done. 😃👍
Dad gave me a new ladder for Christmas, I didn't ask for one but he brought it over so I took it.....I'm up to 6 ladders and 1 Baker Scaffold around here now.....Guess I'm officially a Ladder Collector....Green EXIT sign is Neat.
I had to pick, though, the 10' ladders at Lowe's just to find one good Werner, the fiberglass was broken on most of them, very sad. I love the way your going to do the hinged ceiling. Can't wait to see it progress. Thanks John
That ceiling is a great idea. Have you thought about using it to showcase different types of ceiling as well? If I recall, the stores used to put tin ceiling or Armstrong tile up with the lights on them. I have thought about displaying my collections as they’d be in a store but I have no room. I need a stand up attic!
@@ScoutCrafterThree phase. The first three phase system was 3x127/220V. 127V between the line and neutral or ground, and 220V between the three lines. Square root of 3 is very important for three phase calculations. 127V multiplied with square root of 3 gets you the voltage between the lines. Also for demand calculations in three phase you need the square root of 3. In Europe the standard is 3x230/400V.
I like the ladder John! When LED fixtures first hit, I changed out most of my home lights and some rental property lights as well. Not a one of them lasted more than 2 years. I have since gone back to bulb style fixtures, but use LED bulbs available at the dollar store for $1.25 each. Funny thing is the dollar store bulbs last really long, and so what if they crap out? Easy fix, as opposed to changing the whole fixture, and it's way cheaper than a new fixture.
I bought a King Kombo ladder that's rated up to 375lbs. Its kind of a spin off of the little giant ladders that folds into an extension ladder. I love it. It's great for every day homeowner tasks. (10ft ceilings). It also is great for doing work outside the house,
The hinges for the faux ceiling is brilliant! I've got my eye on a vintage exit sign.. been working this fella for a while now on price...I might just have to let him win...it will be your fault too😅 i will now exit left 😅 have a great rest of the week, Mr. John
Good show SC! “New is not better, new is just new.” As for the ladders, “you fool me once shame on you… you fool me twice…. Well ya fool me you ain’t gonna fool me again.” Glad you got that sorted out and ended up with a usable ladder with a nice bin as a catch-all.
Great show as always. Love the exit sign.I have owned and worked on Werner ladders and walk boards for 30 plus years. Have not had any issues or complaints with their products yet. Hopefully they see your review and respond to you positively. The wobbly issue is not a good look for a company with a reputation to uphold. They are the industry standard in residential, commercial and industrial settings 👍🇺🇲👊
Thanks John, glad that you managed to find a ladder you were happy with, it looks a great design , sadly they don't appear to be available here in the UK. Perhaps I was fortunate with my Werner I have the 4 step Fibreglass and it's a great solid little ladder and wobble free ! The low profile lamp looks neat, and great that it has the variable colour temperature too, the exit light is very cool also !
Good plans for the ceiling lights! I've just replaced some spotlights that were halogen for LEDs. Now I have a buzzing (transformer?) (I'm partly deaf so I can't locate the sound). Something new to figure put I guess... I would switch back to halogen if I could still get them
Good video, I have several types of ladders, I do prefer fiberglass, and they are somewhat heavier, but I just like fiber glass, they feel solid to me. I also have one of those fold up telescoping, adjustable height step ladder (no my ladder is not adopted, it’s name is just step ladder😊) to straight ladders combo ladders that are heavy than all get out, but it is my go ladders, it is solid when i set it. Nice idea hinging your light set up. Thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
Too bad about the wobbly ladder again but you got another good one anyway love that tray attachment and some really great lights too 👍 can’t wait to see the display
Your product reviews are very interesting. Your knowledge is amazing. The led ceiling lights with the adjustable color are a good idea. When one burns out, you can exactly adjust the new one to match the remaining ones. The swing down false ceiling is a slick idea, and i have to say the insulation job in your attic is well done. My doctor say people should stay off ladders after age 60, but hey, jobs at home have to get done. Sorry about the two uneven Werner ladders you got. Werner is supposed to put out good quality products. My 6-foot aluminum Werner ladder has worked well.
Hey !John une très belle vidéo sur l'éclairage, on peut aimer l'ancien, et préféré le nouveau, moins gourmand en électricité. Il est vrai que si l'on achète une échelle, il vaut mieux qu'elle soit de bonne qualité. J'aime votre attique, il doit y avoir des choses merveilleuses. John,j'adore votre esprit et vous le partagez depuis longtemps. ❤❤
Hi John, I bought a Gorilla ladder to get to my shelves. I got the aluminum one. I agree, it’s sturdy and love the tray. The new lights just don’t have the character. They are just blah. I like the 5k. My wife hates the 5K. But that’s what’s in both of my shop areas (garage and steel outbuilding. Can’t wait to see the lamp display. Best Regards, John
That's a good idea for your vintage lighting. That will look really nice up in your attic nice ladder just an FYI if you want a ladder at Home Depot or Lowe's and you see minor damage on it. They will knock money off. The minor damage won't affect the integrity of the ladder either.
Hi from England, Great video as always. I wondered if you knew that you can store your step ladder vertically flush against the wall and it shouldn't fall over. Always amazes me when I do it that someone had the forethought to design them that way.
Something I've thought about in using LED lights. The utility companies are wanting customers to use LED lights to conserve energy. The rub is it may save you money on your utility bill, but the companies are in turn losing revenue so the cost of electricity to the user is going up. the Tennessee Valley Authority has a program to fund solar panels for your home. Users save money and the TVA goes up on their rates.
I like the light display plans. But, I can't figure out how something made to be thrown away when it breaks is better than something you can repair. Crazy world we live in.
I don't know about lighting circuit voltage in the UK but 277 volts is very common in the United States. 2 of the 12 school buildings that I do electrical maintenance in have 277 volt lighting systems in them including the emergency and exit lighting.
277 volt is a USA (only) voltage. It is a single phase, H and N, derived from a 460/480 volt 3 phase system. Uses one hot leg from the 480 volt, plus a neutral. Used extensively in commercial and institutional applications--in USA (maybe Canada)
Great ladder. I always thought EXIT signs had to be illuminated red. John did you work at the bus depot around Wayne Jct? next to a NJ transit shop? Attic brewing and Dekes BBQ? I watch a guy in Philly who films with drones and turns wrenches on any thing with or w/o wheels. He uses a drone to film the Delaware river and he filmed above Wayne jct and I thought that has to be where you worked. GO LUCKY.
Hi Troy! I was lucky enough to work less than two miles from my house at the College Point Depot. Drone technology is both fascinating and terrifying at the same time. 🫣😂👍
277V is used frequently in commercial lighting. Definetely need to know what your doing there, amazing feeling the hair stand up on your skin going near it where you really can learn about electricity reaching out and grabbing you. Also I'm beginning to like aluminum ladders better for less weight and fiberglass ladders will deteriorate especially exposed to UV sunlight they will powder and begin to crack i always feel like it's a risk compared to aluminum.
@@ScoutCrafter i have 2 werner a 6 foot fiberglass and an aluminum multi ladder 18 foot, 2 little giant ladders again 6 foot fiberglass and 23 foot aluminum multi position, as well as a gorilla 5 foot step stool with platform at top and 2 gorilla 1 step stools for my wife to reach into washer and hop into bed lol
I'm surprised about the Werner ladders. I made a living on those things. We had a 40' fiberglass job and I'm telling you, that's a beast. Damaged ladders should not be for sale. That was odd.
277 volts is a commercial wiring use on a 480 volt system. Like your house you have 240 volt between the 2 hot wires for dryers and stoves and 120 volt between either hot and and neutral for lights and receptacles. In a big commercial building where they have a 480 volt/277 volt system 3 phase you have 3 hot legs and a neutral so you get 480 between ant 2 hot legs and 277 from any hot to neutral 208 volt 3 phase commercial systems have 3 hots wit 208 volt between any 2 hots and 120 from any hot to neutral 480 volt/square root of 3=480/1.73=277 volt 208 volt/1.73=120 volt
Be very careful with fiberglass ladders as if they crack often the crack can't be seen until you put some load on it !!! ie when your climbing it. But take the load off and the crack closes so you can't see it.
277 V is nasty stuff... it is a 480 V hot leg to neutral. It is popular in US commercial offices because you can have many many light fixtures on one switched circuit. 277 V * 15 A = 4155 W vs. 120 V * 15 A = 1800 W.
You might want to rethink your lighting apparatus a bit. You would be surprised at the cumulative weight of the fixtures. Your design is relying on the vertical holding power of the screw threads of the hinges and locking mechanism alone. Maybe put the hinges on the top side of the 2x3? At least that will take some pressure off one side.
HEY SCOUTCRAFTER, I want to give you a heads up!!! Get those vintage lights hung up! Finish any other projects you want to get done! I am telling you that you need to be working like 22 hours a day! I am a man in the KNOW! In 2 maybe 3 weeks Pres. trump is going to call you up! You are being called out of retirement to serve America! Be ready when that call comes! Don't be the guy who says "Sorry SIR- I cant serve because I have to hang a antique lamp! The wise will heed these words!
I hate warm LED lights. It's like an evil leftover from the filament days when all lights were orange. I can see people loving Trump but do your really want his color????
Actually it’s very interesting why we are drawn to a more yellowish color- it mostly has to do with our Sun. Our visual receptors are much more receptive to that spectrum because of evolution. The higher (blue) spectrum often causes issues like glare and sleep problems. This was never an issue with incandescent bulbs because the light was perfectly matched to our optimal range. 😃👍
"How many ScoutCrafters does it take to screw in a lightbulb....one to go to Home Depot...one to find a straight ladder....one to... Sorry man I couldn't resist lol! That is frustrating when you dont get what you pay for, and that seems to be the norm as of late, I tried to buy a weed eater back in the summer from Menards and the stupid kid they had working the "customer service" counter couldn't grasp the concept as to why I would be upset after having to return 3 piece of junk in one day.
The exit sign is wired for 277 volts because a lot of commercial buildings are wired for it. I have installed over 300 of these during my work life. I have an old exit sign I believe came out of an old theater in downtown Sacramento. You would have had a field day in my boom truck with all the different bulbs and ballasts. You are absolutely right about the led light, hit and miss if it works. The drivers are the weak link in leds. You made a good choice with the fiberglass ladder. It reminded me of my plastic bucket that I hung off my aerial bucket. They are handy when your in the air. Great show, thank you
Jess- At first I thought it was like the universal power supplies that will operate from 100-240 volts but soon learned about the commercial lighting current. Thanks!!! 😃👍
I replaced my 25 year old 6’ wood ladder last summer with a Gorilla ladder. I love it! My Son liked it so much that I gave him one for Christmas. In fact, I received that 6’ wood ladder for Christmas. My wife put my Son’s name on the to/from tag that year even though he was only 6 years old at the time. I remember how excited he was when I got it. That made it even more special for me to give him his first ladder for his first home.
That’s awesome! A great gift! 😃👍
That double platform ladder looks amazing! Simeone put some design thought into it for sure!!! At first I thought that exit light was a tritium exit light. ;)
I’ve always been fascinated with Tritium, I first encountered it on military compasses. 😃👍
I was surprised that two Werner ladders were not level on the floor. The Gorilla ladder looks good so I will check it out. Thanks for sharing this.
John- I also was and still am shocked! 😃👍
“New is not better, new is just new.” I love this! Spot on! Thanks for the review of the Gorilla ladder. Lucky is looking good. Excellent video, Scout. Many thanks! 👍
Those led ceiling lights are quite nice, I put one in our living room and one in hallway; found both at Lowe’s, with the selectable light color the major reason. Exit signs are those things that “hide in plain sight”, most don’t think about them, until there is an emergency. Some buildings are so convoluted that even with signs it would be difficult to get out in a hurry, let alone when panic sets in. Great info as usual, Thanks.
You’re so right, when was the last time you paid attention to a simple Exit sign? 😂👍
I got a gorilla 🦍 about five years ago fantastic Ladder no problems with it they have really thought out the designs
Great show John god bless take care 🇺🇸🇳🇿🗽🦅🇮🇱🪖🐕45-47
Both the Aluminum and fiberglass models felt very very stable. 😃👍
Never heard of a gorilla ladder but it's a good idea as i still use a empty five gallon bucket for the low stuff in the gar/shop...i may break down and get one..the tray sold me...i think...🖖
Surprisingly the ladder comes with a lifetime warranty! Just keep the receipt! 😃👍
Right on John! 🙌 That tray on the ladder is a great idea! I’ve got a Gorilla ladder but no tray like that. Can’t wait to see the display of lights! Thanks John, always great content!
Great info and enjoyed the show. Good luck with the lighting display project, can't wait to see it.
i had to replace my ladder too and i bought that Gorilla in aluminum, it's one of the best ladder i have i got the plateform too, that you can walk on you know? feels super sturdy and well built, lots of features
Martin- I believe the Aluminum ladder is a better deal. Same lifetime warranty! 😃👍
Good Day Sir I'm so glad to see the little guy doing so well thank you for taking care of him.
Anyone else notice the grenade and M-60? Pity to the one who breaks into that house. Every time he goes into the attic I see something fascinating new thing. I’d love an in depth tour of the attic someday. It’s amazing. Thanks John for another great video. I always learn something new. You’re the internet’s favorite shop teacher.
I have 2 Gorilla ladders, 4' and 6' - I love them; their light weight, top platform and their baskets!
Also, you have to know the "Belt Buckle Rule". Any time you are reaching out on a ladder, keep your belt buckle within the 4 feet of your ladder and you will never tip over.
The wobbling ladders can be easily fixed by setting one of the "long legs" on the ground and the opposite "long leg" straight over it.
Then pull/ push the two towards each other. This will adjust the metal hinges just enough to let all 4 feet set flat/ on the same plane and alleviate the wobble.
It's kind of like you using the Dake! There will be a lot spring-back to account for, but I have corrected 100 ladders this way.
Stephen- That 4’ platform ladder was just too stiff to adjust, at least in the store. Maybe it’s just the rigidity of the platform. 😃👍
Maybe that’s something they should be doing at the factory 👍👍
The only adjustment that I want to make is because of where the ladder is to make it stable, not from the ladder being mismade.
@@scroungasworkshop4663 I'm sure they do so, but things get stacked and packed during shipping and handling causing misalignment.
Either way, I can adjust 20 ladders quicker than taking one back for a replacement.
@@royreynolds108 Probably not mismade, just bent out of alignment during shipping and handling. Again, I can adjust several ladders quicker than returning one... And there absolutely nothing wrong with them.
Hi Scout, you’ll never regret buying a high quality ladder. Gorilla sell their ladders here in Australia too. New is just new, that’s gold👍
Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
Stuart- “Buy once cry once” 😂👍
great show today. the hinged false ceiling is brilliant. the ladder, the mouse, the exit sign...great stuff!
Hi John, I have doing a lot of handyman work down here in FL. The first thing I bought was the 5ft aluminum gorilla. It’s super light and strong. I highly recommend it!
Tom- Can’t wait to see your next video showing your new shop! I bet you don’t miss the NY winters! 😃👍
Werner used to make an awesome ladder. I own 5 of them. A couple are starting to wear out. I’ll take a hard look at those Gorilla ones, as yours looks great.
John- I too have a Werner ladder and it’s great, I just don’t know the deal with the 4 foot platform model. 🫣😂👍
Werner went bankrupt in 2006. It was purchased by a global corporation, ProDriven Global Brands. I'm not surprised it declined.
@ I have a 6 foot fiberglass Werner that I bought 27 years ago when I first opened my business. I have installed and maintained so much Carwash equipment while standing on that thing that it has become very sentimental to me. I took it home a couple of years ago to semi - retired it, and now I use it at home three or four times a week. It’s possible that Werner is having labor problems. Labor problems, equal quality problems. It’s sad when a good brand goes downhill.
Great video mate. I have a Gorilla brand step ladder and it is fantastic. Can’t climb ladders anymore but my wife uses it a lot.
Please be careful climbing it alone. It’s easy to fall and have no one around to help. Don’t ask me how I know.
Love the exit sign and your plans for the lighting set up. Looking forward to seeing that.
You’re so right- I tend to avoid all straight ladders now. 😃👍
I thought for sure you had a gorilla suit stashed away somewhere that you were gonna throw on and climb that ladder!
John, you really should do a special edition titled “10 Things I Will Never Collect”! 😂
That would be a very short video.
Your attic looks very organized and neat. Would like to see the vintage light fixtures once you have completed that.
Hi John. I agree that trying to get something good when you order something is really a crap shoot. Not like it was years ago. Really sad for our country. This was a great video. Take care and be safe on that ladder. Good luck. 👍👍❤...
Larry- We need to bring pride back into our lives. I understand why people give up on it because in many jobs you’re just a number and there is no reward for a job well done. 😃👍
I still have an external antenna that I use to this day. I only watch tv from the antenna
I’m still amazed they have terrestrial TV. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter yes
Dad gave me a new ladder for Christmas, I didn't ask for one but he brought it over so I took it.....I'm up to 6 ladders and 1 Baker Scaffold around here now.....Guess I'm officially a Ladder Collector....Green EXIT sign is Neat.
I had to pick, though, the 10' ladders at Lowe's just to find one good Werner, the fiberglass was broken on most of them, very sad. I love the way your going to do the hinged ceiling. Can't wait to see it progress. Thanks John
That ceiling is a great idea. Have you thought about using it to showcase different types of ceiling as well? If I recall, the stores used to put tin ceiling or Armstrong tile up with the lights on them. I have thought about displaying my collections as they’d be in a store but I have no room. I need a stand up attic!
good looking ladder, great light and sign thanks again
Most commercial buildings in the US use 277 volts ac for lighting circuits. That’s what the 277 wire on the exit sign is used for.
Toolman! I never knew that! I thought it was the normal 120/240. 277 is such an odd voltage! Thanks very much for that!!! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter 277V is the hot to neutral voltage of 480V 3 phase. Another common voltage is 120/208V.
@@grounded-b937yes, that is common for apartment building appliances - not sure why!
@@ScoutCrafterThree phase. The first three phase system was 3x127/220V. 127V between the line and neutral or ground, and 220V between the three lines. Square root of 3 is very important for three phase calculations. 127V multiplied with square root of 3 gets you the voltage between the lines. Also for demand calculations in three phase you need the square root of 3.
In Europe the standard is 3x230/400V.
Excellent show today , Thank you for your all that information !🎉❤
I like the ladder John! When LED fixtures first hit, I changed out most of my home lights and some rental property lights as well. Not a one of them lasted more than 2 years. I have since gone back to bulb style fixtures, but use LED bulbs available at the dollar store for $1.25 each. Funny thing is the dollar store bulbs last really long, and so what if they crap out? Easy fix, as opposed to changing the whole fixture, and it's way cheaper than a new fixture.
Terry- I have had LED bulbs last a couple months and others last many years! It’s a coin toss! Anything made in China is a coin toss. 🫣😂
I bought a King Kombo ladder that's rated up to 375lbs. Its kind of a spin off of the little giant ladders that folds into an extension ladder. I love it. It's great for every day homeowner tasks. (10ft ceilings). It also is great for doing work outside the house,
Mitch- I have the original Little Giant bit it’s very heavy! 🫣😂👍
The hinges for the faux ceiling is brilliant! I've got my eye on a vintage exit sign.. been working this fella for a while now on price...I might just have to let him win...it will be your fault too😅 i will now exit left 😅 have a great rest of the week, Mr. John
Good show SC! “New is not better, new is just new.”
As for the ladders, “you fool me once shame on you… you fool me twice…. Well ya fool me you ain’t gonna fool me again.”
Glad you got that sorted out and ended up with a usable ladder with a nice bin as a catch-all.
Very good post, you have quite the good attic. Have a good day
Great show as always. Love the exit sign.I have owned and worked on Werner ladders and walk boards for 30 plus years. Have not had any issues or complaints with their products yet. Hopefully they see your review and respond to you positively. The wobbly issue is not a good look for a company with a reputation to uphold. They are the industry standard in residential, commercial and industrial settings 👍🇺🇲👊
Steven- me too! I have a Werner 15’ A frame and it’s awesome. That 4’ platform has me perplexed. 😂
I wonder if it is being damaged in shipping transit and handling. I was really surprised when the second one was wobbly.
Great Show Bud!! That ladder you got now is 10X better than that wobbly thing!!☻
😃👍
Thats a great idea for your light display! Hope to see a follow up.
Nice ladder John.
Thanks John, glad that you managed to find a ladder you were happy with, it looks a great design , sadly they don't appear to be available here in the UK. Perhaps I was fortunate with my Werner I have the 4 step Fibreglass and it's a great solid little ladder and wobble free ! The low profile lamp looks neat, and great that it has the variable colour temperature too, the exit light is very cool also !
Yes- My Werner A frame ladder is great too! I wonder why the small ones wobble? 🫣😂👍
Good plans for the ceiling lights! I've just replaced some spotlights that were halogen for LEDs. Now I have a buzzing (transformer?) (I'm partly deaf so I can't locate the sound). Something new to figure put I guess... I would switch back to halogen if I could still get them
Alex- The buzzing could be a dimmer switch that is incompatible with the new LED bulbs- Try replacing that. 😃👍
Good video, I have several types of ladders, I do prefer fiberglass, and they are somewhat heavier, but I just like fiber glass, they feel solid to me. I also have one of those fold up telescoping, adjustable height step ladder (no my ladder is not adopted, it’s name is just step ladder😊) to straight ladders combo ladders that are heavy than all get out, but it is my go ladders, it is solid when i set it. Nice idea hinging your light set up. Thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
Terry- I have the original Little Giant ladder- It’s good but like you said it weighs a Ton! 🫣😂👍
Too bad about the wobbly ladder again but you got another good one anyway love that tray attachment and some really great lights too 👍 can’t wait to see the display
John I believe the 277 has to with commercial and industrial wiring. 277/480
Your product reviews are very interesting. Your knowledge is amazing. The led ceiling lights with the adjustable color are a good idea. When one burns out, you can exactly adjust the new one to match the remaining ones. The swing down false ceiling is a slick idea, and i have to say the insulation job in your attic is well done. My doctor say people should stay off ladders after age 60, but hey, jobs at home have to get done. Sorry about the two uneven Werner ladders you got. Werner is supposed to put out good quality products. My 6-foot aluminum Werner ladder has worked well.
Pat- The older I get the shorter the ladder I will climb! I used to go up 40’ on ladders now 6’ seems high! 🫣😂👍
277V is used in the USA. Very common in commercial and industrial locations
Hey !John une très belle vidéo sur l'éclairage, on peut aimer l'ancien, et préféré le nouveau, moins gourmand en électricité. Il est vrai que si l'on achète une échelle, il vaut mieux qu'elle soit de bonne qualité. J'aime votre attique, il doit y avoir des choses merveilleuses. John,j'adore votre esprit et vous le partagez depuis longtemps. ❤❤
I am curious about the belt feed machine gun ?? And what looks like a German hand grenade ??
Bill- Those are airsoft guns that I used to teach the scouts marksmanship. The German hand grenade is a replica…. 😃👍
very cool looking replicas!! That was really awesome that gun safety was taught back then! Kudos to you for that!
Hi John,
I bought a Gorilla ladder to get to my shelves. I got the aluminum one. I agree, it’s sturdy and love the tray. The new lights just don’t have the character. They are just blah. I like the 5k. My wife hates the 5K. But that’s what’s in both of my shop areas (garage and steel outbuilding. Can’t wait to see the lamp display.
Best Regards,
John
John- I definitely think the Aluminum ladder is the better buy. Same lifetime warranty! 😃👍
That light display is going to look really cool.
That's a good idea for your vintage lighting. That will look really nice up in your attic nice ladder just an FYI if you want a ladder at Home Depot or Lowe's and you see minor damage on it. They will knock money off. The minor damage won't affect the integrity of the ladder either.
That’s a great point! 😃👍
Hi from England, Great video as always. I wondered if you knew that you can store your step ladder vertically flush against the wall and it shouldn't fall over. Always amazes me when I do it that someone had the forethought to design them that way.
Yes! I too always found that a great feature! 😃👍
Something I've thought about in using LED lights. The utility companies are wanting customers to use LED lights to conserve energy. The rub is it may save you money on your utility bill, but the companies are in turn losing revenue so the cost of electricity to the user is going up. the Tennessee Valley Authority has a program to fund solar panels for your home. Users save money and the TVA goes up on their rates.
It’s true! I’m using 1/2 the electricity but paying the same bill! 🫣😂👍
I like the light display plans. But, I can't figure out how something made to be thrown away when it breaks is better than something you can repair. Crazy world we live in.
George- It’s our current mentality, especially for young people. They don’t even complain when something breaks they expect it! 🫣😂👍
I like these wide platforms instead of rungs on newer ladders. Much safer that way.
That ladder is only $ 139 in Home Depot in Canada, usually we are a lot more expensive.
I’m a big guy and any ladder that feels solid when I’m on it is a plus. Also it has a lifetime warranty! Just save the receipt. 😃👍
Great video, john 👍
I don't know about lighting circuit voltage in the UK but 277 volts is very common in the United States. 2 of the 12 school buildings that I do electrical maintenance in have 277 volt lighting systems in them including the emergency and exit lighting.
277 volt is a USA (only) voltage. It is a single phase, H and N, derived from a 460/480 volt 3 phase system. Uses one hot leg from the 480 volt, plus a neutral. Used extensively in commercial and institutional applications--in USA (maybe Canada)
Great ladder. I always thought EXIT signs had to be illuminated red. John did you work at the bus depot around Wayne Jct? next to a NJ transit shop? Attic brewing and Dekes BBQ? I watch a guy in Philly who films with drones and turns wrenches on any thing with or w/o wheels. He uses a drone to film the Delaware river and he filmed above Wayne jct and I thought that has to be where you worked. GO LUCKY.
Hi Troy! I was lucky enough to work less than two miles from my house at the College Point Depot. Drone technology is both fascinating and terrifying at the same time. 🫣😂👍
Bought a Werner, got it home and realized it was missing rivets - right from the factory
I’m still waiting for a response from Werner. They are slow to reply.
277V is used frequently in commercial lighting. Definetely need to know what your doing there, amazing feeling the hair stand up on your skin going near it where you really can learn about electricity reaching out and grabbing you. Also I'm beginning to like aluminum ladders better for less weight and fiberglass ladders will deteriorate especially exposed to UV sunlight they will powder and begin to crack i always feel like it's a risk compared to aluminum.
I agree, a good aluminum ladder is a really nice addition to the shop, especially if they are well made. 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter i have 2 werner a 6 foot fiberglass and an aluminum multi ladder 18 foot, 2 little giant ladders again 6 foot fiberglass and 23 foot aluminum multi position, as well as a gorilla 5 foot step stool with platform at top and 2 gorilla 1 step stools for my wife to reach into washer and hop into bed lol
You'd think that a company that makes ladders would make a ladder that didn't wobble.
Pete- They didn’t wobble when you stood on it but just the wobbling on the ground bothered me. 🫣😂👍
@ScoutCrafter you were still right to swap it out.
I'm surprised about the Werner ladders. I made a living on those things. We had a 40' fiberglass job and I'm telling you, that's a beast. Damaged ladders should not be for sale. That was odd.
Yes! Me too, I have a 15’ A frame Werner ladder that is great, I think the rigidity of the small platform ladder is the issue. 😃👍
Very illuminating but why are there no Entrance signs? 🤔
LED lights can be fixed or repaired if the individual LED pieces are unsoldered and replaced. It does take some effort to do.
Yes- It’s hard to justify the labor costs with the prices of new LED’s. 🫣😂👍
@@ScoutCrafter Yes, I said "can" but didn't say practical.
thxs for sharing...
It's looks a lot different today in signs than the older ones
Hey ScoutCrafter, have you ever talked about spudgers? In my experience, the iSesame spudgers are the absolute best.
I haven’t but sure could have used one for the Exit sign! I have a couple in the attic used for replacing my IPhone batteries. 😂👍
I am surprised about the Werner ladder. I always thought they were high quality, guess not. Can’t wait to see the light display.
Tony- I think they still are but that 4’ platform ladder has quirks. 🫣😂👍
Hey you have more stuff than I do how are you ever going to move?
Pete- It’s a hard choice when moving- you wind up leaving lots of stuff behind. Remember “3 moves equals a house fire”. 🫣😂👍
I’ve got to ask, is the Gorilla ladder made in the USA?
I wish! Unfortunately most big box store ladders are made in China. Maybe that will change?
277 volts is a commercial wiring use on a 480 volt system. Like your house you have 240 volt between the 2 hot wires for dryers and stoves and 120 volt between either hot and and neutral for lights and receptacles.
In a big commercial building where they have a 480 volt/277 volt system 3 phase you have 3 hot legs and a neutral so you get 480 between ant 2 hot legs and 277 from any hot to neutral
208 volt 3 phase commercial systems have 3 hots wit 208 volt between any 2 hots and 120 from any hot to neutral
480 volt/square root of 3=480/1.73=277 volt
208 volt/1.73=120 volt
Are you sure you're moving soon?
I look at real estate listings all the time but it’s hard! 🫣😂
Remember, guys over 50 don't do well on ladders. Be very careful.
I refuse to go on straight ladders over 20 feet anymore! It’s no joke! 😃👍
Be very careful with fiberglass ladders as if they crack often the crack can't be seen until you put some load on it !!! ie when your climbing it.
But take the load off and the crack closes so you can't see it.
277 V is nasty stuff... it is a 480 V hot leg to neutral. It is popular in US commercial offices because you can have many many light fixtures on one switched circuit. 277 V * 15 A = 4155 W vs. 120 V * 15 A = 1800 W.
Sometimes my phone does not allow me to comment so this is late. I would like to know if the floor in HD is level in the area of your test. 😅
Yes! I spun the ladder around in 360 degrees, it definitely wasn’t the floor- I don’t think I have a level spot in my house! 😂👍
You might want to rethink your lighting apparatus a bit. You would be surprised at the cumulative weight of the fixtures. Your design is relying on the vertical holding power of the screw threads of the hinges and locking mechanism alone. Maybe put the hinges on the top side of the 2x3? At least that will take some pressure off one side.
New is replaceable. Old things were meant to be heirloom quality.
That was a very " enlightin" video 😅😂
HEY SCOUTCRAFTER, I want to give you a heads up!!! Get those vintage lights hung up! Finish any other projects you want to get done! I am telling you that you need to be working like 22 hours a day! I am a man in the KNOW! In 2 maybe 3 weeks Pres. trump is going to call you up! You are being called out of retirement to serve America! Be ready when that call comes! Don't be the guy who says "Sorry SIR- I cant serve because I have to hang a antique lamp! The wise will heed these words!
Imagine if there was a draft again? In the Ukraine they drafted everyone under the age of 60! 🫣😂👍
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Can't wait to see your light-board!
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I hate warm LED lights. It's like an evil leftover from the filament days when all lights were orange. I can see people loving Trump but do your really want his color????
Actually it’s very interesting why we are drawn to a more yellowish color- it mostly has to do with our Sun. Our visual receptors are much more receptive to that spectrum because of evolution. The higher (blue) spectrum often causes issues like glare and sleep problems. This was never an issue with incandescent bulbs because the light was perfectly matched to our optimal range. 😃👍
"How many ScoutCrafters does it take to screw in a lightbulb....one to go to Home Depot...one to find a straight ladder....one to... Sorry man I couldn't resist lol! That is frustrating when you dont get what you pay for, and that seems to be the norm as of late, I tried to buy a weed eater back in the summer from Menards and the stupid kid they had working the "customer service" counter couldn't grasp the concept as to why I would be upset after having to return 3 piece of junk in one day.
Quality control is at an all time low I think. People expect some damage now! 🫣😂👍
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