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I have a question. I am not in disagreement in the Bible in being a story. In this story you have descriptive and prescriptive. How come that isn’t being said? It is prescribed in the Bible women not to have authority over men. In Genesis 3:16 say women will seek to rule over man. This is descriptive. In New Testament times there was male superiority. Paul addresses this in Ephesians 5. The their corporate praise and worship. At the same time women are still to be subordinate to men. However men are to be leaders. How come she is focusing on just New Testament? To understand women you must look at creation. Paul did this. To me she is trying to fit the New Testament in to her view she believes it should be. This just what I am seeing. How can teach you biblical truth without using Old Testament. Help me understand.
Thanks for your comment. The purpose of Dr. Carey's book isn't to define gender roles in church leadership or marriage. Rather, she is focused on how women are portrayed as disciples in the Gospels and what this might teach us about women and discipleship today. With that said, she would say (and I would agree) that the portraits of women in the Gospels lend themselves to an egalitarian or mutualist theology. I agree with you that this would need to be established by a look at the entirety of Scripture.
@@dr.maxbotner Thanks for your answer. I wish there was a way to talk with you. I have spent six months doing Bible study on women. I know women are to be subordinate to men, but not as a male superiority. Paul dealt with this in Ephesians. Men were superiority in Ephesians. This corporate praise and worship in how we live in spiritual gifts and gender role. I am looking at ethical side in this. How God created man and woman within science. This is one problem in studying Bible for some. That won’t look outside scripture. Yet outside resources support scripture even from unbelievers. When I am doing this study I want to look at discipleship for men and women. You don’t want to make women feel invaluable. You want them to know how valuable they are. Just as you want a man to know how valuable they are. The number one problem I have found in people studying the Bible is trying to make the Bible out what we want it to say. I don’t want that in my study. I want the scripture to speak the truth that shapes a believer in Christ.
@@scottdonze8413 Thanks! Like you, I want to be faithful to Scripture. One thing I would recommend is reading and engaging with the views of Bible scholars who arrive at different conclusions than you do. (I'm happy to make recommendations.) I'm constantly looking to read and engage with people who disagree with my interpretation/theology/etc., especially when it comes to contentious issues. :)
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I have a question. I am not in disagreement in the Bible in being a story. In this story you have descriptive and prescriptive. How come that isn’t being said? It is prescribed in the Bible women not to have authority over men. In Genesis 3:16 say women will seek to rule over man. This is descriptive. In New Testament times there was male superiority. Paul addresses this in Ephesians 5. The their corporate praise and worship. At the same time women are still to be subordinate to men. However men are to be leaders. How come she is focusing on just New Testament? To understand women you must look at creation. Paul did this. To me she is trying to fit the New Testament in to her view she believes it should be. This just what I am seeing. How can teach you biblical truth without using Old Testament. Help me understand.
Thanks for your comment. The purpose of Dr. Carey's book isn't to define gender roles in church leadership or marriage. Rather, she is focused on how women are portrayed as disciples in the Gospels and what this might teach us about women and discipleship today. With that said, she would say (and I would agree) that the portraits of women in the Gospels lend themselves to an egalitarian or mutualist theology. I agree with you that this would need to be established by a look at the entirety of Scripture.
@@dr.maxbotner Thanks for your answer. I wish there was a way to talk with you. I have spent six months doing Bible study on women. I know women are to be subordinate to men, but not as a male superiority. Paul dealt with this in Ephesians. Men were superiority in Ephesians. This corporate praise and worship in how we live in spiritual gifts and gender role. I am looking at ethical side in this. How God created man and woman within science. This is one problem in studying Bible for some. That won’t look outside scripture. Yet outside resources support scripture even from unbelievers. When I am doing this study I want to look at discipleship for men and women. You don’t want to make women feel invaluable. You want them to know how valuable they are. Just as you want a man to know how valuable they are. The number one problem I have found in people studying the Bible is trying to make the Bible out what we want it to say. I don’t want that in my study. I want the scripture to speak the truth that shapes a believer in Christ.
@@scottdonze8413 Thanks! Like you, I want to be faithful to Scripture. One thing I would recommend is reading and engaging with the views of Bible scholars who arrive at different conclusions than you do. (I'm happy to make recommendations.) I'm constantly looking to read and engage with people who disagree with my interpretation/theology/etc., especially when it comes to contentious issues. :)