One thing confuses me. Fefe gets banned constantly despite being very careful but that's because she's been banned for being lewd before. Her caution built up overtime. Mega is practically 100% seiso until you put her in a bikini. Then there's Cotton who has never been banned once despite so many close calls. She has a beach outfit too. She's not had underwear on on stream. She has showed her naked sunburn pics and has constant sex jokes yet she is completely untouched by the banhammer. I love Cotton but I don't get why she isn't a banhammer magnet
It's such great examples side-by-side that it seems like the rules are being enforced entirely inequally. If everyone got treated the same in EITHER direction, it would be reasonable. Because then we'd know where the standpoint on the matter was. We'd *know* the expectations. They don't. They clearly don't.
Obviously the twitch mods like cotton and sinder. Which I'm hoping people don't conclude "well, this is somehow their fault others are getting banned" instead of blaming staff for both picking favorites and being dogmatically Puritan with everyone else. Its not the fault of streamers who they give special treatment. Vtuber or Irl. It's on the business owners to fire staff that act like simps to certain people on the platform
You know how space marines from 40k are basically the only faction that matters and does... anything of any relevance at this point because they have been in this cycle of popularity rise, publicized more, rinse and repeat till we got to this piece of shit situation? That, but apply it to a buncha loosers who get a b*ner from one fake ass virtual persona, but not for another.
Tbh as much as I like Cotton I’m wondering that too. Lily and Mega are not known for being lewd or border from being explicit yet they got banned over something little. Poor Fefe is constantly fighting Twitch and YT for banning and age restricting her. Yet Cotton has been completely untouched despite that there are times where she has pushed TOS to its limit. Sinder tbh I don’t really know. Sinder doesn’t shy away from being explicit but she does give off very seiso vibes.
Also: Apparently I missed a tweet where Megalodon states that she purposefully made her outfits TOS friendly, so there's also that. I wouldn't think a partnered creator would lie about that, especially when vtubers are being shot down right and left. So, according to her statements, I am wrong in saying that her outfit(s) could be against Twitch TOS. But all the IRL streamers can still broadcast what is essentially soft-core p*** with no issue. This is all fantastic, isn't it?
see twitch and youtube back in the day, people would comment and laugh at you for suggesting this rule. oh how times have changed, i come from the newgrounds-into-early-youtube kid era and EVERYTHING is so different and creatively stifling. i mean, where did all the abridged series go, the YTP, the old skool reacts, pewds vs t-series (best internet battle of all time), the beginning of vtubing and the '3 year golden era of EN vtubers' started! and now..... THIS BS
Well it's like people have speculated that the investors only care about their titty streamers because they're obviously into them while vtubers are seen as for kids. Pippa made a tweet about it and so have others that go into way more detail.
Hate to point this out but there are clips that show she'd been straight up say things like "this is an educational twitch experience" as she shows the jiggle of the thighs and a close up of her waist and crotch without the dress on. Love vtubers and yeah they should be just as hard against non-tubers, but if you're paying chicken with the ToS and you get banned for flying too close to the proverbial sun, you can't really cry about being burnt. Debut, subathon, hell even charity streams, doesn't matter you still gotta play by the rules of the streaming platform you're using, regardless on if you agree with them or not. Especially for vtubers, who all should know by now they're under a magnifying glass.
@@conspiracyspider I'm not saying you're wrong. But it still sounds a little weird. Investors usually care about the money, not what kind of streamer that money comes from. I also don't understand why both 8008 streamers and vtubers would not fit on the same platform... but idk.
@@Juhnoso 8008 streamers view vtubers as competitors who are stealing their shrimps with anime, not understanding that to be successful as a vtuber u need a personality while the 8008 girls area ads for OF.
@@AnIntrovertedArtist Basically it's so that the people can't talk about the fact that they take sexual favours to not ban streaming accounts on their website. If someone were to call them out with proof, they can shut down the stream and say "Oh you're not supposed to talk about that kind of stuff!"
@@lucaslargan5777 I'm guessing that is how most streamers who tend to be nsfw deal with it. I'm not implying Cottontail or Sinder are offering "something" in return to the Twitch staff since they hardly ever get banned, but... It's kind of how it feels. They are good streamers, however, they still raise question marks as to how they manage to stay out of trouble so well in spite of how their content tends to be pretty nsfw oriented, and then you got other Vtubers getting banned over nothing. But that's just how I see it, I can totally be wrong about this.
@@Dafreshcutwell twitch is weird, once I saw some hot tub streamer just showing but plug like it's nothing, was nearly nude and you could clearly see something inside her ass. 3h later they were not banned
The double standard for Vtubers is ridiculous I honestly believe someone at Twitch just has it out for them. Their TOS varies depending on who they deem worthy of their harassment that day.
I guess, when someone says "Child will most likely imitate any behavior or attitude within Parent actions" is quite say the least. What a baffling reality that I see around Twitch. Emotion-s is gonna mostly to be *-less in Twitch rn.
Dont forget that twitch had to "regretfully apologize" to shondo because she was disabled and they took away her livelihood and if they weren't scared of a lawsuit would have banned her for 3 months-
Just five minutes ago, I saw someone with the twitch staff badge talk in one of those weird bikini streams when some guy in the genshin unofficial server was streaming looking for streamers on twitch.
I really can´ t wait for Shylily's interview with Dan Clancy about all these issues. They keep piling on and on and I wonder how he is gonna justify what his employees are doing.
He’s probably going to say something like how they are only so many people and can’t be everywhere at once and that’s why some people slip through the cracks which won’t explain at all why VTubers are getting disproportionately targeted when it literally takes just going to the Category to see dozens of IRL streamers flagrantly breaking the attire rule at any given time.
Honestly, I'm starting to think that the people behind the Twitch rules/enforcing those rules have the incorrect mindset of Animation = For Children. I mean, when you look at the double standard they have going I can imagine their thought process is vtuber is animated = animation = cartoon= for children and therefore they believe that vtubers should have cartoon rules applied to them to keep it "pure" and "safe" for the kiddos. Meanwhile, live people/action are "for the adults" and can be "raunchy" and don't get the ban hammer when they should. It's utterly ridiculous.
right?! and the whole argument that “cartoons are for kids only” is flatout wrong, because you have shows like family guy and south park, that are clearly cartoons but for adult audiences.
If this is true, then tell those people who believe that "animation is only for kids" to let their children watch La Blue Girl. By their logic, it's totally ok for their kids to watch stuff like that.
Yeah, I really don't get the double standard. I'm also not a fan of the censorship in general. It's not about protecting kids or whatever either, it's all about advertisers.
@@Gh0st_Cyn well, most of us were kids when we first interracted with the internet, it's just that now it is A LOT easier for kids to be influenced or to find something they shouldn't.
By all rights, none of these social media "platforms" actually fit the definition of section 230 protection. The rules and politics behind the "platforms" clearly push into editorializing the content. You can't claim to be a "free platform" when people can't say things that you don't like. These companies want to have their cake and eat it too, but that was never what section 230 was meant to be about. Section 230 is meant to protect companies like the phone companies from being liable for what their customers use their service for. It was not meant to protect entities that employ teams of content moderators. Just think about that. These companies want to be able to moderate your speech for things that are not illegal to say, but hold no liability or responsibility for the actual illegal content.
@@ShaggyRogers1 Honestly, more competition is needed. Prices on hardware needs to go down so more competitors can start running alternative sites and offer something superior.
@@daedalus6433 There won't be real competition, because these kinds of sites aren't even profitable. Bandwidth and data center costs makes video streaming pretty much always lose money in the long run. UA-cam sticks around because Google uses it as part of their overall ad and data platforms, which is their real money. Twitch sticks around due to Amazon having so much money that they don't care.
@@daedalus6433 honnestly i get the feeling the hardwar cost isnt the issue. it;'s probably more the internet and power costs that matter alot more when running massive streaming servers like that.
Exactly, the problem is not that these rules exist, the problem is the enforcement and uneven moderation. Tho, i think hate watchers play some role as well, but since the ban happend so fast, i assume it was an auto detection that caused her ban. But if so, then you have to ask the question where these system are with all the IRL streamers.
It's probable that there's just fewer vrubers, so the hate-watchers that mass report end up causing more reports per vtuber than the irl streamers, and the system just assumes "with this many reports, they must be breaking some rules." Likely what happened with several people's UA-cam channels lately, too.
twitch shouldnt allow streamer to just use kiddie pools indoors under that category and they dont even use it, they just have it set up to justify having a scandalous swim wear on throughout their stream.
@@SilvaDreams well i understand both cases, furries are the ones who run the internet infrastructure afterall. but they are more sensible than the wokites.
Everyone should be held to the same standards. It doesn't matter if it's a 2d anime girl. If she's half naked and being sexual af there needs to be repercussions.
@@Daluckyplaysdon't know why, not like they'd have a chance, they all have the equivalent build of caseoh (no hate to man) but without the kindness or respect, they're all overgrown toddlers who've had access to their sippy cups for to long
@@ramirez3331Kick lets people stream copyrighted material on their platform with an entire section for it. I don’t think kick was actually going to go anywhere.
@@ramirez3331 thing about kick is that it's just as bad as twitch if not worse. All that is needed is just a normal competitor that treats its content creators fairly and reinforce its rules fairly and with no discrimination for twitch to start sweating.
@ I don’t remember where I got it from (I don’t think I came up with it) but it’s a funny way to say anime, I use it to refer to anime style characters
Why is Twitch allowing the Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches actually break their policy? Twitch staff and twitch is actually just the Hub supporting that category, you know?
And this is why I'm working on a new platform focused towards Vtubers... This crap just keeps getting more and more ridiculous with how Twitch and UA-cam keep treating vtubers.
@@cheeseboi588 No, not advertising. I'm just stating a fact I'm doing what I feel needs to be done because obviously these two platforms can't do what they say their gonna do. Would it be advertising if someone said "I'm cleaning up my neighborhood to make a cleaner environment for my fellow neighbors because the county isn't doing what their supposed to." ?
A few reasons come to mind as to why the double standard exists. It's been proven that multiple leading staff members (including the CEO) are following many of the more adult women streamers, indicating bias and favouritism within the staff. To add to that, some staff seem to be quite anti-anime and there have been some expressing they would prefer if v-tubers weren't on the site (I'd even go as far as claim I've seen borderline xenophobic sentiments towards Asians in general but I can't recall where on twitch I saw it, so take that with a grain of salt) so that probably doesn't help. It's also not a secret that there are people going around reporting v-tubers for simply being v-tubers, and twitch has banned people for this before. Remember seeing this one dude on twitter being real proud over having gotten a v-tuber banned off twitch and pretty much every other platform through mass report, and went on some unhinged rant about how they were a new Metal Gear or something, and how they would go after others like ShyLily and the like over some kind of vendetta over youtube and double standards. Was also weirdly obsessed with bass. Most might not be that unhinged but I wouldn't be surprised of less unhinged people like that were also going around reporting v-tubers over nothing.
@@SebationEspana-ef6lcThe day you go to Twitch and protest for the irl people doing worse getting banned you can complain about vtubers getting unbanned. Until then those Vtubers getting unbanned is fair. Since it is applying the rules equally.
Went to Twitch myself and first thing I came accross was just clips of girls walking down a runway in practically nothing. One of them, her butt was basically eating her bikini. And there wasn't a pool, beach, or hot tub in sight. Another video I came accross was just a girl laying next to her pool with her camera laying at her side, and her hand is positioned in a way you cant tell if shes even wearing a bottom piece or not.
the VRChat rule I kind of get because it's to protect streamers from random people just showing up in your stream and being naked, can't really control that at all
As a VRChat player that doesn't happen all the time in public servers, only if you really looking for it, the whole waist thing for Vtubers is dumb too because if the argument is about jiggle physics than the people who are using the MMD TDA models to stream should just be as guilty
I used to search for those Hot Tubs etc "streamers" just to go there and see how many I could find that were 100% against Twitch TOS and still not banned, making money, etc... I was banned from multiple chats, ofc, bcs I don't just go there and see, I actually talk about what they are doing. something like "hey, isn't this against TOS? since you're almost naked", stuff like that, bam, I'm banned for... idk lol. Well there were some cases that I completely remember, two of them specifically. One was a girl almost naked, wearing a rlly tight and small bikini, with an inside pool behind her, I realized there was no water, and I said it in the chat like "hey... there's no water on the pool", and she just said "oh just pretend that there is", this is the same as saying "yeah I'm going against Twitch TOS but eh, just ignore it" literally in the same platform. And that was my next message "you do know that's against Twitch TOS right?", guess what? I got banned. It's like they don't even care anymore, as long as their channel is up and money is going in their bank accounts, everything is fine. The other streamer I remember, was basically in a bathroom, she had a small ball and a basketball basket toy behind her in the bath right? You know what she was doing THE WHOLE TIME? Throwing the ball to the basket toy, turning around, raising her hips to pick up the ball and then just go back and do the same thing. Wearing panties btw, I think she was wearing a shirt at the moment, and that was all she was doing, throwing a ball to the basket toy behind her, picking up the ball, and talking about some random stuff. I was in the chat trying to talk with her about it, and obviously she was playing dumb, keeping herself in character, not answering me, just saying things like "idk what you're talking about" and stuff like that. One thing that I want to add about all these streamers, you join their streams and they are talking about something, some of them make it seem like they are actually just chilling and talking and whatever, but honestly, you just take a look at the chat and it's just a bunch of horny guys that want the attention of a "hot girl" and keep on complimenting their "features" instead of actually talking to them, and they don't get banned, but one guy saying that they shouldn't be doing something they are doing bcs it's against Twitch TOS gets banned. Also, they are allways in sexually alluring positions, like laying down and raising her hips, leaning over with a rlly tight bikini, having a mirror behind them so that chat can look at their "assets", stuff like that. Reminder that you need to be 13 years old to have a Twitch Account, so basically, Twitch is fine with exposing this type of soft p*** to 13 YOs. BUT SHOWING A BIT OF SKIN IN A VTUBER MODEL IS A BIG NO NO!!!
i legit went and looked out of curiosity and half of them just have a kiddie pooll with floatiess and nothing else it was just so weird twitch is just run by gooners tbh
i just checked the front page of the pools, hot tubs and beaches category, and i can already say the person being promoted at the very top of it is not following ANY of these, and she's doing poses that also should not be allowed on twitch. this really pisses me off that they can just do that and not get penalized for it.
How are they getting banned when I’ve seen Teen rated games with more suggestive outfits and dialogue than some of these VTubers. And Twitch is 13 years and up, so the fact they’re taking these creators down is ridiculous.
They would need to sort out their ban algorithm. 75% (if not more) of bans are done by the algorithm reacting to reports without any human interaction whatsoever. It seems to mostly be from bot reporting or something probably, and appeals are often shut down because they never take the time to actually yanno investigate. If only this double standard could be done the same for like those RL streamers and get them taken down en-masse then it would be a fair (if harsh) system. Then Twitch as a platform would start hemorrhaging money and would back off on their policies. Equally. (hopefully). But when they implement this with such a double standard it just becomes an unjust system.
love how as i finished watching this i was going to mega's twitch to follow her and noticed that cotton was live with the stream titled "lust debut" which i feel like u can guess what it entails
I like v tuber.... But i rly dislike the Outfits and big breast Trend by the v tuber.... All this jiggle physics... Its rly dumb tbh... Its embarassing to watch that...
4:40 I feel this is mostly there because you can't control what other people use so they're giving you the leeway to not get giga banned because of someone else's model.
Im late to this but i want to point out that When she made that post other Streamers and Tubers tried to call her out for it sayin things among like "You violated the rules wearing the bikini, you should know why you got banned....its clear in the picture" but when evidence brought up against Hot tub and pools nobody says anything anymore because they be considered Hypocrites. People will call out others knowing damn well they do the same thing to protect their own image. Just for added evidence OTHER Vtubers have similar style and clothing and most dont even cover up the sections of body parts that the TOS specifically calls out
Twitch at this point has become such a horrible platform. For *so* long they've picked and choosed who to punished, and rarely enforce rules unless they have a grudge or people complain enough. Their is a *reason* why a number of people think Twitch moderation are a massive joke. They don't follow their own rules, and blatantly play favorites. *Either it is ALL okay, or NONE of it is okay. No exceptions.*
Considering how much money Vtubers draw in vs irl streamers, one could argue that Twitch clearly doesn’t want all that money. It could not be more clear that for whatever the reason(s), Twitch has a very obvious bias against Vtubers. A competitor with no bias needs to come about. Or perhaps even a Vtuber-exclusive competitor. Twitch would either have to adapt or eat the L.
At this point its just a question of how long before 1 vtuber decides to leave twitch when thier fellow vtuber get hat and its going to start a wave lol
This is so crazy to me that the rules will be enforced more harshly and with prejudice against drawings rather than real people. It's not that I disagree with the rules, but that they're not consistent.
Ok so basically the mods be like: they ban someone getting a sausage hidden inside them for 7 days, but they ban a Vtuber for milenia 48 bc they look freaky and the mods are choking the chicken to often Truely a double standard if ive ever seen one.
What can you do, 5e only way is either a hacker takes the entire twitch website down, they get sued, or we stop using twitch. All of them are less likely than an alien invasion.
The gods can only withstand so much hatred. One day the dam will break. And those who have abandoned their senses... Shall repent for their blasphemy the hard way
4:35, I think this is mostly because if they are on public servers, I'm pretty sure some desperate attention seeking randoms would put on that type of avatar and join the streamer, which will make it literally almost impossible to play VRChat, I don't think it is actually talking specifically about the streamer's avatar
Honestly, I feel like the vtuber-specific rules are extreme and Twitch should apply rules equally, but the exceptions likely exist due to people abusing the rules. For example, I've seen a good number of vtubers have "censor bar" toggles that replace their clothes with a black bar to imply nudity, or just a blur filter, and when the art rules changed for a few days last year, tons of vtubers just had their models nude on screen. This is stuff that's clearly not okay, but the rules tend to assume irl people, so they probably felt the need to clarify it. Vtubers can do a lot that IRL streamers can't, when it comes to how they look. For example, the older "swimsuit" rules only exist out of necessity to allow people to swim or stream from a beach, but vtubers don't really need specific outfits, and a lot of their normal outfits are very similar to bikinis, regardless. Personally, I think twitch should simplify things and just not allow hot tub streams in general, but that's just me. I do think it's likely that some people at Twitch don't like vtubers, but it's also likely a case of a few people pushing things too far and ruining stuff for everyone. Also, the colorful animated designs make them stick out more compared to irl streamers who might be breaking rules, and that makes haters more likely to report them, too. Just my 2 cents, as someone who watches several vtubers myself, because it's very easy to just say "twitch hates vtubers" without considering other contributing factors.
This is why I see more streamers switching to UA-cam. While the system on UA-cam might be broken, it's broken evenly. No real discrimination. This one streamer went to both UA-cam and Twitch to say that they will stop streaming on the platform and stay on the other platform. UA-cam tried to negotiate with him to let him stay, Twitch just said, "Oh well, go do whatever."
we're all hypocrites in some way or another. the only difference is that some of us admit it, others conceal it, and others expose their fellows of their hypocrisy
its getting completely out of hand at this point its unfair. vtubers have done nothing to deserve this and its unfair to them as they do it for a living. Its like twitch dont care that people who arent comfortable showing their irl face and body on camera are loosing their way of living. its as you said its a broken record because its a double standard and a consant loop of ridiculous bans.
the amount of what ifs, revisions, and walls of text, all for something twitch should just hit the delete key and just not have any of this permitted on the site. they could avoid all this so easily. twitch staff need to find actual prn sites and get over themselves.
Granted my ventures on Twitch are long past but seeing all the controversy I doubt much has changed since then. Even back then the only ones with something resembling professionalism were the techs. Twitchs working ethic is a joke and at least half of the employees would have been fired in any other corporate setting. Even after Amazon took over they still haven't managed to stop staff mingling in streamer chats with work accounts. Unprofessional and rotten to the core and long overdue that some higher-ups at Amazon go through there with a broom.
to my thoughts, either someone who is writing these are abusing power or they're high as a kite cause i remember on therussianbadger, one of his friends made a prediction that said, "how ya'll feel about green beans?" and twitch banned him. someone in twitch needs a reality check
It’s honestly some sort of hilarious and pitifully sad that some Twitch mod would see that and think “Green beans? Me angy” and whip out the ban hammer. The people at Twitch need to see some professional help.
Vtuber Lilithplus. Revealing of hips, the 'clothing' is practically bikini armour and the model is never in a hot tub scenario but as far as I know, no warnings and no bans. Twitch really is hypocritical.
At this point wish some indi company would just say screw it and make a new gamer service for streaming games that is safe for both vtubers and irls it so stupid with how much youtube and twitch have been throwing fit over silly 2d personas that are usually 90% harmless.
It seems that any Vtuber no matter what level of clothing is just automatically entered in a bizarre BAN lottery chosen completely at random. And at this point I bet if you're an irl, live-action, streamer with no clothes on, spreading your ass cheeks to the point of winking your sphincter, but you put a shotglass of water next to you, Twitch will consider it a valid beach setting and they'll promote your stream on the front page, and automatically play it at full volume in 4K resolution.
Here's a fun drinking game: Go to Pools, Beaches and Hot Tubs at any point of any day and spot how many people you can see breaking the "hips" rule! Bonus points if you spot it from the thumbnail alone!
So many Vtubers being banned left and right, none of who deserve it. Meanwhile, the ones who do deserve to be banned and more remain on the internet, ruining lives, stalking big names, and spreading hate and negativity everywhere while suffering little to no reprecussions. I'm not dropping that thing's name, but I'm sure some of you can figure out which unholy freak I am referring to.
Ah yes average twitch moderation where the moderators for the twitch platform ban people who represent themselves as a digital original character very regular day
Twitch has just been getting more and more and MORE out of hand with its rules and ideals about anything. Like jeezus... they just keep digging their own grave smh.
Though it was just a theory I'd have to say at this point it proving true repeatedly, Twitch is banning Vtuber because they are anonymous and can not be controlled blackmailed or Coerced into "Favors." Much like regular female streamer can be it start to look more and more true as time pass that it solely because Vtuber are anonymous
Nah man I always said it, for me streaming on twitch is a convinence because I can multistream again there and for my genshin rewards for streaming there, but otherwise ill stick with youtube, I even got the annoying artists that they keep sending their stolen/ Ai generated scams xD
what's wrong with hips?? are some people attracted to hips or somethin??? it's like schools banning girls from showing shoulders because "it's too much skin"??
Yeah, I NEVER understood the shoulders one. When I was a kid in school, I never met any boy who liked shoulders. They all liked ass or thighs. I'm starting to assume it was a rule so that teachers/staff won't act up around children.@@SebationEspana-ef6lc
I think it is automated somewhat. Cause there are smaller streamers that get banned for literally no reason. No double standard at play just straight banned. When I say smaller I mean they never get more than 100 viewers, Basically unheard of streamers.
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One thing confuses me. Fefe gets banned constantly despite being very careful but that's because she's been banned for being lewd before. Her caution built up overtime. Mega is practically 100% seiso until you put her in a bikini. Then there's Cotton who has never been banned once despite so many close calls. She has a beach outfit too. She's not had underwear on on stream. She has showed her naked sunburn pics and has constant sex jokes yet she is completely untouched by the banhammer. I love Cotton but I don't get why she isn't a banhammer magnet
Also, not one that is a close call, but sinder, she has a beach outfit, not been banned. Potentially bc of the background, but yea
It's such great examples side-by-side that it seems like the rules are being enforced entirely inequally. If everyone got treated the same in EITHER direction, it would be reasonable. Because then we'd know where the standpoint on the matter was. We'd *know* the expectations. They don't. They clearly don't.
Obviously the twitch mods like cotton and sinder. Which I'm hoping people don't conclude "well, this is somehow their fault others are getting banned" instead of blaming staff for both picking favorites and being dogmatically Puritan with everyone else. Its not the fault of streamers who they give special treatment. Vtuber or Irl. It's on the business owners to fire staff that act like simps to certain people on the platform
You know how space marines from 40k are basically the only faction that matters and does... anything of any relevance at this point because they have been in this cycle of popularity rise, publicized more, rinse and repeat till we got to this piece of shit situation? That, but apply it to a buncha loosers who get a b*ner from one fake ass virtual persona, but not for another.
Tbh as much as I like Cotton I’m wondering that too.
Lily and Mega are not known for being lewd or border from being explicit yet they got banned over something little. Poor Fefe is constantly fighting Twitch and YT for banning and age restricting her.
Yet Cotton has been completely untouched despite that there are times where she has pushed TOS to its limit.
Sinder tbh I don’t really know. Sinder doesn’t shy away from being explicit but she does give off very seiso vibes.
Also:
Apparently I missed a tweet where Megalodon states that she purposefully made her outfits TOS friendly, so there's also that. I wouldn't think a partnered creator would lie about that, especially when vtubers are being shot down right and left. So, according to her statements, I am wrong in saying that her outfit(s) could be against Twitch TOS. But all the IRL streamers can still broadcast what is essentially soft-core p*** with no issue. This is all fantastic, isn't it?
see twitch and youtube back in the day, people would comment and laugh at you for suggesting this rule.
oh how times have changed, i come from the newgrounds-into-early-youtube kid era and EVERYTHING is so different and creatively stifling. i mean, where did all the abridged series go, the YTP, the old skool reacts, pewds vs t-series (best internet battle of all time), the beginning of vtubing and the '3 year golden era of EN vtubers' started!
and now.....
THIS BS
Well it's like people have speculated that the investors only care about their titty streamers because they're obviously into them while vtubers are seen as for kids.
Pippa made a tweet about it and so have others that go into way more detail.
Hate to point this out but there are clips that show she'd been straight up say things like "this is an educational twitch experience" as she shows the jiggle of the thighs and a close up of her waist and crotch without the dress on.
Love vtubers and yeah they should be just as hard against non-tubers, but if you're paying chicken with the ToS and you get banned for flying too close to the proverbial sun, you can't really cry about being burnt. Debut, subathon, hell even charity streams, doesn't matter you still gotta play by the rules of the streaming platform you're using, regardless on if you agree with them or not. Especially for vtubers, who all should know by now they're under a magnifying glass.
@@conspiracyspider I'm not saying you're wrong. But it still sounds a little weird. Investors usually care about the money, not what kind of streamer that money comes from. I also don't understand why both 8008 streamers and vtubers would not fit on the same platform... but idk.
@@Juhnoso 8008 streamers view vtubers as competitors who are stealing their shrimps with anime, not understanding that to be successful as a vtuber u need a personality while the 8008 girls area ads for OF.
I’d make a joke about it being because of sexual favors but that’s also against tos
Gee I wonder why they put that in there
@@Vantainiumactually, I wanna know why they did that!! If you can explain that is,,
@@AnIntrovertedArtist Basically it's so that the people can't talk about the fact that they take sexual favours to not ban streaming accounts on their website. If someone were to call them out with proof, they can shut down the stream and say "Oh you're not supposed to talk about that kind of stuff!"
@@lucaslargan5777 I'm guessing that is how most streamers who tend to be nsfw deal with it. I'm not implying Cottontail or Sinder are offering "something" in return to the Twitch staff since they hardly ever get banned, but... It's kind of how it feels. They are good streamers, however, they still raise question marks as to how they manage to stay out of trouble so well in spite of how their content tends to be pretty nsfw oriented, and then you got other Vtubers getting banned over nothing. But that's just how I see it, I can totally be wrong about this.
@@Dafreshcutwell twitch is weird, once I saw some hot tub streamer just showing but plug like it's nothing, was nearly nude and you could clearly see something inside her ass. 3h later they were not banned
The double standard for Vtubers is ridiculous I honestly believe someone at Twitch just has it out for them. Their TOS varies depending on who they deem worthy of their harassment that day.
Sounds like a twitch mod got upset for spending $100 on subs for a vtuber but got no feet pics
Well funny you say that because yes there are in fact people on twitch who openly admitted to hating vtubers and want them off the platform.
I guess, when someone says "Child will most likely imitate any behavior or attitude within Parent actions" is quite say the least. What a baffling reality that I see around Twitch. Emotion-s is gonna mostly to be *-less in Twitch rn.
Dont forget that twitch had to "regretfully apologize" to shondo because she was disabled and they took away her livelihood and if they weren't scared of a lawsuit would have banned her for 3 months-
@@conspiracyspider Name them, pretty please
Just five minutes ago, I saw someone with the twitch staff badge talk in one of those weird bikini streams when some guy in the genshin unofficial server was streaming looking for streamers on twitch.
I really can´ t wait for Shylily's interview with Dan Clancy about all these issues. They keep piling on and on and I wonder how he is gonna justify what his employees are doing.
Imagine she gets banned right before that interview
@@אורשחר-פ2סWouldn't be surprised.
He’s probably going to say something like how they are only so many people and can’t be everywhere at once and that’s why some people slip through the cracks which won’t explain at all why VTubers are getting disproportionately targeted when it literally takes just going to the Category to see dozens of IRL streamers flagrantly breaking the attire rule at any given time.
We almost lost Ironmouse’s YT channel, we can’t lose Mega’s Twitch either!
Ironmouse got her channel back, thank God.
I hope they both get banned
@@RedgrabbRage bait used to be believable.
@@vhrover4937 sär beteände
Only if you're a coomer
Honestly, I'm starting to think that the people behind the Twitch rules/enforcing those rules have the incorrect mindset of Animation = For Children. I mean, when you look at the double standard they have going I can imagine their thought process is vtuber is animated = animation = cartoon= for children and therefore they believe that vtubers should have cartoon rules applied to them to keep it "pure" and "safe" for the kiddos.
Meanwhile, live people/action are "for the adults" and can be "raunchy" and don't get the ban hammer when they should. It's utterly ridiculous.
right?! and the whole argument that “cartoons are for kids only” is flatout wrong, because you have shows like family guy and south park, that are clearly cartoons but for adult audiences.
Meanwhile on the front page you have women in bikinis with a separate cam for their butt as the main focus of the stream-
Have they not heard of ZONE? Like... At all?
If this is true, then tell those people who believe that "animation is only for kids" to let their children watch La Blue Girl. By their logic, it's totally ok for their kids to watch stuff like that.
@@afre989 Or Madoka Magica. Or Higarachi
Yeah, I really don't get the double standard. I'm also not a fan of the censorship in general. It's not about protecting kids or whatever either, it's all about advertisers.
all about keeping the platform afloat.. hmm i wonder
Well, why theres kids in internet in first place too
@@Gh0st_Cyn well, most of us were kids when we first interracted with the internet, it's just that now it is A LOT easier for kids to be influenced or to find something they shouldn't.
This just means twitch is a publisher not a platform it's past time for twitch lose Section 230 protection.
By all rights, none of these social media "platforms" actually fit the definition of section 230 protection. The rules and politics behind the "platforms" clearly push into editorializing the content.
You can't claim to be a "free platform" when people can't say things that you don't like.
These companies want to have their cake and eat it too, but that was never what section 230 was meant to be about.
Section 230 is meant to protect companies like the phone companies from being liable for what their customers use their service for. It was not meant to protect entities that employ teams of content moderators.
Just think about that. These companies want to be able to moderate your speech for things that are not illegal to say, but hold no liability or responsibility for the actual illegal content.
@@ShaggyRogers1 Yup so true.
@@ShaggyRogers1 Honestly, more competition is needed. Prices on hardware needs to go down so more competitors can start running alternative sites and offer something superior.
@@daedalus6433 There won't be real competition, because these kinds of sites aren't even profitable. Bandwidth and data center costs makes video streaming pretty much always lose money in the long run. UA-cam sticks around because Google uses it as part of their overall ad and data platforms, which is their real money. Twitch sticks around due to Amazon having so much money that they don't care.
@@daedalus6433 honnestly i get the feeling the hardwar cost isnt the issue. it;'s probably more the internet and power costs that matter alot more when running massive streaming servers like that.
Exactly, the problem is not that these rules exist, the problem is the enforcement and uneven moderation.
Tho, i think hate watchers play some role as well, but since the ban happend so fast, i assume it was an auto detection that caused her ban. But if so, then you have to ask the question where these system are with all the IRL streamers.
It's probable that there's just fewer vrubers, so the hate-watchers that mass report end up causing more reports per vtuber than the irl streamers, and the system just assumes "with this many reports, they must be breaking some rules."
Likely what happened with several people's UA-cam channels lately, too.
twitch shouldnt allow streamer to just use kiddie pools indoors under that category and they dont even use it, they just have it set up to justify having a scandalous swim wear on throughout their stream.
Twitch thinks that virtual avatars are more real than actual people. They have the same brain-rot that the twitter bugs do.
They have a lot of woke and furry mods.
@@SilvaDreams well i understand both cases, furries are the ones who run the internet infrastructure afterall. but they are more sensible than the wokites.
And furry mods are bad becauseee...?
I know you're probably a furry hater because of the loud asf minority
Not defending twitch in anyway because this whole vtuber thing is horrible
Everyone should be held to the same standards. It doesn't matter if it's a 2d anime girl. If she's half naked and being sexual af there needs to be repercussions.
they're not hypocrites, they made it very clear they only like 3D.
They only like ones they could (but don't get to because they're losers) feel
I edited this to be more accurate.
@@Daluckyplaysdon't know why, not like they'd have a chance, they all have the equivalent build of caseoh (no hate to man) but without the kindness or respect, they're all overgrown toddlers who've had access to their sippy cups for to long
@@Daluckyplayswant. But no one would let them
@@lulu111_the_cool I edited my comment to fix it
Twitch is on very thin ice with this. All it's gonna take a decent competitor showing up and most of their revenue is gone.
Kick tried it and look what happened to them.
Twitch isn't going anywhere.
@@ramirez3331Kick lets people stream copyrighted material on their platform with an entire section for it. I don’t think kick was actually going to go anywhere.
@@ramirez3331 thing about kick is that it's just as bad as twitch if not worse. All that is needed is just a normal competitor that treats its content creators fairly and reinforce its rules fairly and with no discrimination for twitch to start sweating.
Well, you see, Meg didn’t have “real water” in her background.
Also she’s an animu, and Twitch hates animu
Whats animu?
@ I don’t remember where I got it from (I don’t think I came up with it) but it’s a funny way to say anime, I use it to refer to anime style characters
@@NotsilYmerej ah oki
Why is Twitch allowing the Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches actually break their policy? Twitch staff and twitch is actually just the Hub supporting that category, you know?
And this is why I'm working on a new platform focused towards Vtubers... This crap just keeps getting more and more ridiculous with how Twitch and UA-cam keep treating vtubers.
Good luck with your job!
@@ShardDeVir Appreciate it. I'm literally self teaching and taking classes to learn webpage development.
What’s the names you’re picking on?
My guy really used a comment section to advertise himself
@@cheeseboi588 No, not advertising. I'm just stating a fact I'm doing what I feel needs to be done because obviously these two platforms can't do what they say their gonna do.
Would it be advertising if someone said "I'm cleaning up my neighborhood to make a cleaner environment for my fellow neighbors because the county isn't doing what their supposed to." ?
She's unbanned now thankfully and eeping shork
why thankfully this is sad
Why thankfully? And not unfortunately?
@@SebationEspana-ef6lcExplain.
@@peachypet808 explain what?
@@tabbyy_yy why is it sad she was unbanned after she showed behavior no different from pool streamers at worst?
A few reasons come to mind as to why the double standard exists. It's been proven that multiple leading staff members (including the CEO) are following many of the more adult women streamers, indicating bias and favouritism within the staff. To add to that, some staff seem to be quite anti-anime and there have been some expressing they would prefer if v-tubers weren't on the site (I'd even go as far as claim I've seen borderline xenophobic sentiments towards Asians in general but I can't recall where on twitch I saw it, so take that with a grain of salt) so that probably doesn't help.
It's also not a secret that there are people going around reporting v-tubers for simply being v-tubers, and twitch has banned people for this before. Remember seeing this one dude on twitter being real proud over having gotten a v-tuber banned off twitch and pretty much every other platform through mass report, and went on some unhinged rant about how they were a new Metal Gear or something, and how they would go after others like ShyLily and the like over some kind of vendetta over youtube and double standards. Was also weirdly obsessed with bass. Most might not be that unhinged but I wouldn't be surprised of less unhinged people like that were also going around reporting v-tubers over nothing.
it was found out that she had her "parts" take up the whole screen and that break the TOS and that why she got banned
Yea, I saw that too.
Shouting "boob inspection" and flashing your chest to the screen isn't exactly the most innocent thing to do. Lmao
Oh... why the hea# is she getting un ban!
@@SebationEspana-ef6lcThe day you go to Twitch and protest for the irl people doing worse getting banned you can complain about vtubers getting unbanned.
Until then those Vtubers getting unbanned is fair. Since it is applying the rules equally.
@@peachypet808 yes and i thought she was unfairly banned but when i saw the turn reason i saw that she did need that ban
and she wasnt in the hot tub section of twitch when she put her bikini on.
Went to Twitch myself and first thing I came accross was just clips of girls walking down a runway in practically nothing. One of them, her butt was basically eating her bikini. And there wasn't a pool, beach, or hot tub in sight. Another video I came accross was just a girl laying next to her pool with her camera laying at her side, and her hand is positioned in a way you cant tell if shes even wearing a bottom piece or not.
the VRChat rule I kind of get because it's to protect streamers from random people just showing up in your stream and being naked, can't really control that at all
As a VRChat player that doesn't happen all the time in public servers, only if you really looking for it, the whole waist thing for Vtubers is dumb too because if the argument is about jiggle physics than the people who are using the MMD TDA models to stream should just be as guilty
1:23 "my underboob was not toggled on" is a crazy sentence😂
I used to search for those Hot Tubs etc "streamers" just to go there and see how many I could find that were 100% against Twitch TOS and still not banned, making money, etc... I was banned from multiple chats, ofc, bcs I don't just go there and see, I actually talk about what they are doing. something like "hey, isn't this against TOS? since you're almost naked", stuff like that, bam, I'm banned for... idk lol.
Well there were some cases that I completely remember, two of them specifically. One was a girl almost naked, wearing a rlly tight and small bikini, with an inside pool behind her, I realized there was no water, and I said it in the chat like "hey... there's no water on the pool", and she just said "oh just pretend that there is", this is the same as saying "yeah I'm going against Twitch TOS but eh, just ignore it" literally in the same platform. And that was my next message "you do know that's against Twitch TOS right?", guess what? I got banned. It's like they don't even care anymore, as long as their channel is up and money is going in their bank accounts, everything is fine.
The other streamer I remember, was basically in a bathroom, she had a small ball and a basketball basket toy behind her in the bath right? You know what she was doing THE WHOLE TIME? Throwing the ball to the basket toy, turning around, raising her hips to pick up the ball and then just go back and do the same thing. Wearing panties btw, I think she was wearing a shirt at the moment, and that was all she was doing, throwing a ball to the basket toy behind her, picking up the ball, and talking about some random stuff. I was in the chat trying to talk with her about it, and obviously she was playing dumb, keeping herself in character, not answering me, just saying things like "idk what you're talking about" and stuff like that.
One thing that I want to add about all these streamers, you join their streams and they are talking about something, some of them make it seem like they are actually just chilling and talking and whatever, but honestly, you just take a look at the chat and it's just a bunch of horny guys that want the attention of a "hot girl" and keep on complimenting their "features" instead of actually talking to them, and they don't get banned, but one guy saying that they shouldn't be doing something they are doing bcs it's against Twitch TOS gets banned. Also, they are allways in sexually alluring positions, like laying down and raising her hips, leaning over with a rlly tight bikini, having a mirror behind them so that chat can look at their "assets", stuff like that. Reminder that you need to be 13 years old to have a Twitch Account, so basically, Twitch is fine with exposing this type of soft p*** to 13 YOs. BUT SHOWING A BIT OF SKIN IN A VTUBER MODEL IS A BIG NO NO!!!
i legit went and looked out of curiosity and half of them just have a kiddie pooll with floatiess and nothing else it was just so weird twitch is just run by gooners tbh
@@Yuri-qd7yyboomer goners who don’t believe that “those darn v-tubin ones should be allowed on!”
Favouritism, typical; AND censorship too? Crazy
Apparently wearing nothing but a bikini to show off your absurd jiggle physics is only showing "a little bit of skin"
I want you to say what you said slowly “twitch is fine with showing soft porn to 13 year olds” like do you have any idea what your implying
Hypocrisy and double standards are standard Twitch practice, has been for years.
Nothing new or shocking here 😑
i just checked the front page of the pools, hot tubs and beaches category, and i can already say the person being promoted at the very top of it is not following ANY of these, and she's doing poses that also should not be allowed on twitch. this really pisses me off that they can just do that and not get penalized for it.
Hit that report button. That's the only reason folks are getting in trouble. People hate Vtubers so they report.
How are they getting banned when I’ve seen Teen rated games with more suggestive outfits and dialogue than some of these VTubers. And Twitch is 13 years and up, so the fact they’re taking these creators down is ridiculous.
wait why do you need a toggle for that
This is literally the 3rd time this has happened to a different vtuber twitch is dying and we need to realize that
The only reason we can't kiss our loved ones for a prolonged time on stream is because those Twitch losers never had girlfriends before.
The twitch lawyer, I respect you o7
They would need to sort out their ban algorithm. 75% (if not more) of bans are done by the algorithm reacting to reports without any human interaction whatsoever. It seems to mostly be from bot reporting or something probably, and appeals are often shut down because they never take the time to actually yanno investigate. If only this double standard could be done the same for like those RL streamers and get them taken down en-masse then it would be a fair (if harsh) system. Then Twitch as a platform would start hemorrhaging money and would back off on their policies. Equally. (hopefully). But when they implement this with such a double standard it just becomes an unjust system.
it's actually completely backwards and people should be much more 'offended' by the half naked live cams than the stylized vtuber outfits
getting vtuber ad on this vtuber video, epic
but i still see her streaming they must of quickly reverted that decision after the back lash
love how as i finished watching this i was going to mega's twitch to follow her and noticed that cotton was live with the stream titled "lust debut" which i feel like u can guess what it entails
I like v tuber....
But i rly dislike the Outfits and big breast Trend by the v tuber.... All this jiggle physics... Its rly dumb tbh...
Its embarassing to watch that...
nigga they aren't putting a gun to your head to watch it
then dont watch the big boobie vtubers?
love those legos bro! looks awesome in the background
4:40 I feel this is mostly there because you can't control what other people use so they're giving you the leeway to not get giga banned because of someone else's model.
i loved those grey rectangles.... they were real engaging
Im late to this but i want to point out that When she made that post other Streamers and Tubers tried to call her out for it sayin things among like "You violated the rules wearing the bikini, you should know why you got banned....its clear in the picture" but when evidence brought up against Hot tub and pools nobody says anything anymore because they be considered Hypocrites. People will call out others knowing damn well they do the same thing to protect their own image. Just for added evidence OTHER Vtubers have similar style and clothing and most dont even cover up the sections of body parts that the TOS specifically calls out
Twitch at this point has become such a horrible platform. For *so* long they've picked and choosed who to punished, and rarely enforce rules unless they have a grudge or people complain enough.
Their is a *reason* why a number of people think Twitch moderation are a massive joke. They don't follow their own rules, and blatantly play favorites.
*Either it is ALL okay, or NONE of it is okay. No exceptions.*
Considering how much money Vtubers draw in vs irl streamers, one could argue that Twitch clearly doesn’t want all that money.
It could not be more clear that for whatever the reason(s), Twitch has a very obvious bias against Vtubers. A competitor with no bias needs to come about. Or perhaps even a Vtuber-exclusive competitor. Twitch would either have to adapt or eat the L.
At this point its just a question of how long before 1 vtuber decides to leave twitch when thier fellow vtuber get hat and its going to start a wave lol
Twitch needs to be sued, same with youtube.
"fair enough.. except it just isn't"
... Did they forget about "asianbunny?" THE LITERAL TWITCH STRIPPER?
I will never understand why everyone continues to use that pile of shit website. Like seriously.
And nothing of value was lost.
Twich needs to fix its management.
This is so crazy to me that the rules will be enforced more harshly and with prejudice against drawings rather than real people. It's not that I disagree with the rules, but that they're not consistent.
Ok so basically the mods be like: they ban someone getting a sausage hidden inside them for 7 days, but they ban a Vtuber for milenia 48 bc they look freaky and the mods are choking the chicken to often
Truely a double standard if ive ever seen one.
What can you do, 5e only way is either a hacker takes the entire twitch website down, they get sued, or we stop using twitch. All of them are less likely than an alien invasion.
Another thing is megas model is just an updated version of her old one
whats with those dozens of tabs ;-;
literally 1984, they dress coding people like its high school.
I decided to search the person up there sleeping chat is playing a word game and theres a radio on I was confused to say the least
The gods can only withstand so much hatred.
One day the dam will break.
And those who have abandoned their senses... Shall repent for their blasphemy the hard way
That’s unfortunate unban now
is there even any grounds to sue on this? for any vtuber that's been wronged by twitch???
4:35, I think this is mostly because if they are on public servers, I'm pretty sure some desperate attention seeking randoms would put on that type of avatar and join the streamer, which will make it literally almost impossible to play VRChat, I don't think it is actually talking specifically about the streamer's avatar
Honestly, I feel like the vtuber-specific rules are extreme and Twitch should apply rules equally, but the exceptions likely exist due to people abusing the rules. For example, I've seen a good number of vtubers have "censor bar" toggles that replace their clothes with a black bar to imply nudity, or just a blur filter, and when the art rules changed for a few days last year, tons of vtubers just had their models nude on screen. This is stuff that's clearly not okay, but the rules tend to assume irl people, so they probably felt the need to clarify it.
Vtubers can do a lot that IRL streamers can't, when it comes to how they look. For example, the older "swimsuit" rules only exist out of necessity to allow people to swim or stream from a beach, but vtubers don't really need specific outfits, and a lot of their normal outfits are very similar to bikinis, regardless. Personally, I think twitch should simplify things and just not allow hot tub streams in general, but that's just me.
I do think it's likely that some people at Twitch don't like vtubers, but it's also likely a case of a few people pushing things too far and ruining stuff for everyone. Also, the colorful animated designs make them stick out more compared to irl streamers who might be breaking rules, and that makes haters more likely to report them, too.
Just my 2 cents, as someone who watches several vtubers myself, because it's very easy to just say "twitch hates vtubers" without considering other contributing factors.
This is why I see more streamers switching to UA-cam. While the system on UA-cam might be broken, it's broken evenly. No real discrimination. This one streamer went to both UA-cam and Twitch to say that they will stop streaming on the platform and stay on the other platform. UA-cam tried to negotiate with him to let him stay, Twitch just said, "Oh well, go do whatever."
dam just realised we have the same first name
Mega got banned?! They’re just banning anyone (who’s a Vtuber) these days 😭
Is there anything that does not excite the Americans, whose safety makes it necessary to censor everything?
Salad
@@MK_ULTRA420I hate salad
we're all hypocrites in some way or another. the only difference is that some of us admit it, others conceal it, and others expose their fellows of their hypocrisy
its getting completely out of hand at this point its unfair. vtubers have done nothing to deserve this and its unfair to them as they do it for a living. Its like twitch dont care that people who arent comfortable showing their irl face and body on camera are loosing their way of living. its as you said its a broken record because its a double standard and a consant loop of ridiculous bans.
Twitch not targeting vtubers with twisted rules for 1 day [impossible challenge]
the amount of what ifs, revisions, and walls of text, all for something twitch should just hit the delete key and just not have any of this permitted on the site. they could avoid all this so easily. twitch staff need to find actual prn sites and get over themselves.
Clearly the solution is for every Vtuber to include a pool or beach into their set up.
Granted my ventures on Twitch are long past but seeing all the controversy I doubt much has changed since then.
Even back then the only ones with something resembling professionalism were the techs. Twitchs working ethic is a joke and at least half of the employees would have been fired in any other corporate setting.
Even after Amazon took over they still haven't managed to stop staff mingling in streamer chats with work accounts.
Unprofessional and rotten to the core and long overdue that some higher-ups at Amazon go through there with a broom.
to my thoughts, either someone who is writing these are abusing power or they're high as a kite
cause i remember on therussianbadger, one of his friends made a prediction that said, "how ya'll feel about green beans?" and twitch banned him.
someone in twitch needs a reality check
It’s honestly some sort of hilarious and pitifully sad that some Twitch mod would see that and think “Green beans? Me angy” and whip out the ban hammer. The people at Twitch need to see some professional help.
I guess they weren't a big fan of green beans
Praisnheinzophobia
Nux taku made a song, which describes twitch perfectly, it's called: twitch hentai
Vtuber Lilithplus. Revealing of hips, the 'clothing' is practically bikini armour and the model is never in a hot tub scenario but as far as I know, no warnings and no bans. Twitch really is hypocritical.
At this point wish some indi company would just say screw it and make a new gamer service for streaming games that is safe for both vtubers and irls it so stupid with how much youtube and twitch have been throwing fit over silly 2d personas that are usually 90% harmless.
I hate them all
It seems that any Vtuber no matter what level of clothing is just automatically entered in a bizarre BAN lottery chosen completely at random. And at this point I bet if you're an irl, live-action, streamer with no clothes on, spreading your ass cheeks to the point of winking your sphincter, but you put a shotglass of water next to you, Twitch will consider it a valid beach setting and they'll promote your stream on the front page, and automatically play it at full volume in 4K resolution.
Here's a fun drinking game: Go to Pools, Beaches and Hot Tubs at any point of any day and spot how many people you can see breaking the "hips" rule! Bonus points if you spot it from the thumbnail alone!
The ceo of twitch hates that 2d girls are more popular than 3D girls so he’s getting them banned
i cant feel bad for someone who abuses hot tub section on twitch
MEGA NO 😭😭😭😭
So many Vtubers being banned left and right, none of who deserve it. Meanwhile, the ones who do deserve to be banned and more remain on the internet, ruining lives, stalking big names, and spreading hate and negativity everywhere while suffering little to no reprecussions. I'm not dropping that thing's name, but I'm sure some of you can figure out which unholy freak I am referring to.
as bad of a reputation kick has when pippa moved to it it was my first time watching a kick stream and not gonna lie its pretty chill
Because it has free speech, you don't have to fear as much as being on Twitch, And it isn't under control with a bunch of lefties.
Because Kick supports freedom of speech and isn't under the control of Leftists, unlike Twitch.
bruh why are all these big companies treating grown ass adult like children like dafq?
Ah yes average twitch moderation where the moderators for the twitch platform ban people who represent themselves as a digital original character very regular day
Twitch has just been getting more and more and MORE out of hand with its rules and ideals about anything. Like jeezus... they just keep digging their own grave smh.
so this get banned but theres people having bare ass cams 🤦♂️
Though it was just a theory I'd have to say at this point it proving true repeatedly, Twitch is banning Vtuber because they are anonymous and can not be controlled blackmailed or Coerced into "Favors." Much like regular female streamer can be it start to look more and more true as time pass that it solely because Vtuber are anonymous
Someone really need to pull the whistle on these "Favors" that are mentioned almost synomously with Twitch Employees
Maybe Vtubers will get a clue and realize they are unwelcome by Twitch mods, and move to better streaming platforms.
Kinda concerning how an underboob option is available
Nah man I always said it, for me streaming on twitch is a convinence because I can multistream again there and for my genshin rewards for streaming there, but otherwise ill stick with youtube, I even got the annoying artists that they keep sending their stolen/ Ai generated scams xD
Twitch Did A Twitch, What A Shocker
hi queen deltarune or that one homestuck character who did it first but idc about homestuck enough to remember their name
Dude, what is happening with these ridiculously absurd moderation, I could do way better at moderation than these idiots
Twitch are hypocrites, despite me being a vtuber there too.
OK I'm with you on this.
what's wrong with hips?? are some people attracted to hips or somethin??? it's like schools banning girls from showing shoulders because "it's too much skin"??
I get the hips but not the shoulders
Yeah, I NEVER understood the shoulders one. When I was a kid in school, I never met any boy who liked shoulders. They all liked ass or thighs. I'm starting to assume it was a rule so that teachers/staff won't act up around children.@@SebationEspana-ef6lc
MEGALODAUNT VTUBER?!?!?!
I think it is automated somewhat. Cause there are smaller streamers that get banned for literally no reason. No double standard at play just straight banned. When I say smaller I mean they never get more than 100 viewers, Basically unheard of streamers.