PRO TIP: If you are in mod edit mode on any of the modules (ie if one of the mod buttons is pressed/active) Then you can still move the knob (rather than edit mod amount) by holding down the ALT/OPTION + SHIFT keys. This is really useful if you want to tweak the knob position and modulation amount together without having to keep clicking the mod button on and off… it really improves the workflow. Just remember: ALTernatively I can SHIFT the knob!
Damn VCV is such a gold mine, some free modules are so good I used them as kind of "stand-alone" plugins in my DAW for mixing pretty much any source that needs a little twist, not just electronic stuff
A great thing! I´ll not be able to watch it life unfortunately, but will come back to the recording later. Enjoy your day, and have a great stream! Rolf
im in love with the wavetable osc and the filter allready, you can really dial in that self oscilation so its just singing a bit in the background... perfect
What an amazing collection! So thankful for all the hard work that got into this, and which such clever and great looking interfaces as well. Just wonderful! Christmas came pretty early this year. Great demo as always, Omri!
Not trivial to build Surge though. It would make our CI last that much longer (which is already quite an ordeal) and make our final binary that much bigger. Means builds like webassembly can't be cached etc. So make it: maybe, but likely not soon.
Oh wow! I love the Surge XT VST so this is a bit of a game changer. The modulation options are stunning and the layout also looks really pleasing on the eye. Great demo man, cheers 👍
Wow, this is amazing, thanks for the heads up and the demo! The more in VCV Rack the better. Been enjoying playing with instruments in the host module, but this level of integration is wonderful!
Thank you Omri for showing this and explaining how to dl/use it... =] This is AwEsOmE, it solves all the things about SurgeXT VST plugin that I wish could be better. #1 It's very visual. Something the VST is sorely missing. Visuals for wavetables and envelopes is brilliant. #2 Limitations of the Simi modular VST are blown away. Fully modular, no limit on the number of components, with nice visual modulation. #3 Effects are able to be modulated...!! Oh ya... =] Just brilliant, thank you to everyone working on this.
oh ja, what an amazing gem for VCV, sounds great, looks great, feels great and is FREE ... additional a awesome presentation from Omri, what can we ask more ;-)
@@jornvanselow9759 I don' t dare to ask for anything more. I've seen many YT about the sound of TD, but haven't found one that show how to create the sound of TD. So I'm wishfully looking forward to how you create TD sound with VCV Rack Omri has shown how to do ratcheting (very inspirational), that significant for TD sound recreation And these from Synth seeker are a real treasure trove ua-cam.com/video/4IRfBQ7MqNc/v-deo.html
Great stuff here. Thanks for this. Does work within Cardinal, and then within DAWs and probably other host environments - though I will have to check a few more.
This is just what I've been looking for this month, a few new inspiring voices and a good new interface rabbit-hole to get lost in, the String VCO especially just sounds amazing. It all seems like great UI design and finally an excuse to dig into the Serge world. I've heard so many good things about it, but never quite 'got' the interface before in a way that stuck with me.
Finally finished the video, hah, so many jaw dropping moments! I thought people were being a little hyperbolic in the other comments about this collection leveling up vcv rack, but I think it's actually quite true. I have a feeling that many many of those are going to become go-to modules in every patch for me for some time to come.
@@renemosele When clocked the Rate knob acts as a multi/div of the input so that might have something to do with what you are experiencing - hard to tell without seeing your patch. Check out from 10:30 in this video though where Omri is doing exactly that.
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for letting me know! That's interesting, I was expecting something more exotic but to be fair I haven't explored that one very much.
@@DarkSideofSynth I went so far that I only saw a tiny white dot among many :) sorry for not being able to answer these big questions, which make humanity suffer XD
Thank You, I really found your video useful! Can you construct and share file or show video, how the vst version of surge was built? It will explain a lot, how to program the vst version for Windows.
@@OmriCohen-Music I mean, that VCV version, probably, if I well suppose, are modules, made from fragment of source code of Surge VST. If I am right, then it is possible to make, knowing the Surge VST block schema, the VCV version of surge vst, acording the connection diagram of typical vst, such OSCs, LFOs, Filters, ADSR, VCA, VCO, etc. Theoretical we can make Modular version of vst plugin. Can you make something like that? It would be useful to know the way of connections and under stand how Surge works, so also, how to make presets, programs.
For some reason, when I follow this, I can NOT get the envelope to work. I get constant envelope-less sound from the oscillator. Not my setup...I've tried other patches. Looks amazing and sounds great.
Well it's a free synth and the Surge team don't accept financial donations - but the thought is appreciated :) If anyone feels the urge to part with some money you can support Omri by signing up to his Patreon.
Is there any way in which i can create a custom "faceplate" with just the elements that i care about in a synth and hide the rest of the cables and other stuff i dont need in vcv rack? I did that in reaktor. But there are lots of much more cool modules in vcv and i would love to build a bunch of simple machines,.
@@stevebaker2896 I think that would make it more apealing for people like me who dont like getting lost in thousands of cables, but would stil love to create their own devices. I currently do this in reaktor, but it takes too much effort.
I don't have any experience with Logic Pro, but there are other videos about other DAWs. Maybe it helps - ua-cam.com/play/PLiECaNQx239t8v45BajaTTfYc_oHu66ai.html
Amazing collection, amazing demo - thanks! I wonder how well Treemonster works with pre-recorded samples or live playing ... I bet quite well, with some treatment of the source.
TreeMonster works best with monophonic signals - the pitch detector is a pretty naive zero crossing with averaging and hysteresis. But the FX itself is polyphonic so if you can send 16 monophonic signals on the poly channels you will get a better result than summing them first. As to recorded music, well the filters are there to help you shape the input to get good detection. It's a bit of an art.
@@baconpaul5772 Yeah, absolutely - in typical use I would send "monophonic" playing/soloing from a guitar, or make some recordings of short loops. I have been using Entrian's pitch/env follower for this. It's great, but it introduces some latency in my setup which can be tough to compensate for. Hoping a naive implementation will be snappier. Wait, what am I doing typing comments when I could be trying it out? This is amazing work - thanks!
@@fuzzix ha ha! We’ve thought about decomposing it some after our first release also including giving it a cv out for detected tuning and perhaps also making the tracker a standalone narrow module - stay tuned and follow the announcements thread on community or just add it to the library when we are done and look for updates in 2023!
Download the SurgeXT nightly build for your platform from: github.com/surge-synthesizer/surge-rack/releases Then put the vcvplugin file in your plugin folder: vcvrack.com/manual/Installing#Installing-plugins-not-available-on-the-VCV-Library The folder depends on your platform: vcvrack.com/manual/FAQ#where-is-the-rack-user-folder
OK! i have seen enough, the time has come to clean up the massive collection of VCV modules. 🙂I guess that at least 85% of the modules can be removed. Let's clean! 😛
@@OmriCohen-Music indeed, amazing. Big step towards the DAW! In fact together with the Entrian collection, VST plugins, Blob, Plateau, Vult...etc (paid versions) is this a great combination!
The Surge collection is in the library now! Get it here - library.vcvrack.com/SurgeXTRack
PRO TIP:
If you are in mod edit mode on any of the modules (ie if one of the mod buttons is pressed/active)
Then you can still move the knob (rather than edit mod amount) by holding down the ALT/OPTION + SHIFT keys. This is really useful if you want to tweak the knob position and modulation amount together without having to keep clicking the mod button on and off… it really improves the workflow.
Just remember: ALTernatively I can SHIFT the knob!
Nice one!
Thank You!!!
5 hours later and i cant stop playing with these plugins. Its beyond special.
Sounds amazing! Big thank you to the developers for making these modules available within the Rack environment.
I love it when the modulation is visualized this way
Damn VCV is such a gold mine, some free modules are so good I used them as kind of "stand-alone" plugins in my DAW for mixing pretty much any source that needs a little twist, not just electronic stuff
not sure what's better, the surge collection or your demonstration. let's say they're both great.
I appreciate it, thank you!
This is a really mind blowing collection! I cant wait to mess around with these. The people behind this are truly treasures
Totally!
@@OmriCohen-Music currently finally messing with these. I'm preparing my laptop for my flight to Japan and I'll be patching the whole way!
WOW! What an awesome collection of modules. And the idea of how to setup the modulation is lovely elegant. cant wait to make music again :)
I'm so excited about this pack. I love the Surge synth and having it modularized in VCV is a dream package. Also, love it when you play your flute.
Thanks :)
A great thing! I´ll not be able to watch it life unfortunately, but will come back to the recording later. Enjoy your day, and have a great stream! Rolf
Thanks for the overview and tutorials along the way! I didn't see that flute coming! Was a nice surprise that complemented the drone nicely.
Thanks so much!
amazing announcement (and I bet the video too) Omri! big thanks. playing with the pack now and its mindblowing!:)
im in love with the wavetable osc and the filter allready, you can really dial in that self oscilation so its just singing a bit in the background... perfect
Was some Shpongle goosebumps when you came in with the flute. Love the videos. Thank you 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
What an amazing collection! So thankful for all the hard work that got into this, and which such clever and great looking interfaces as well.
Just wonderful! Christmas came pretty early this year. Great demo as always, Omri!
Well said! That's just what it feels like to me too.
Thanks so much :)
Just amazing all round, but the effects in particular are incredible! And you can change the colour scheme 😃
Great demo Omri 👏👏👏
Thanks!
Wow! Surge XT is one of my go tos when making pads or plucky stuff.. it's so great they upgraded their modules to vcv 2!!
And.. they look sekssii af!
I sincerely hope the DISTRHO team is going to include these modules into Cardinal! Exciting news for the virtual modular world.
Not trivial to build Surge though. It would make our CI last that much longer (which is already quite an ordeal) and make our final binary that much bigger. Means builds like webassembly can't be cached etc.
So make it: maybe, but likely not soon.
It’s just been added to Cardinal 🎉
@@abulka thanks for letting me know! :))
The flute solo was totally unexpected and awesome!
Cheers!
Oh wow! I love the Surge XT VST so this is a bit of a game changer. The modulation options are stunning and the layout also looks really pleasing on the eye. Great demo man, cheers 👍
Glad you like it!
When you 24:08 play the flute over the drone you made it truly gave me goosebumps
Superb. Every day gets better - The flute excerpt was amazing...More !!!
Thanks so much :)
Wow, this is amazing, thanks for the heads up and the demo! The more in VCV Rack the better. Been enjoying playing with instruments in the host module, but this level of integration is wonderful!
It just keeps on getting more exciting by the minute loving it !!!
Thank you Omri for showing this and explaining how to dl/use it... =]
This is AwEsOmE, it solves all the things about SurgeXT VST plugin that I wish could be better.
#1 It's very visual. Something the VST is sorely missing. Visuals for wavetables and envelopes is brilliant.
#2 Limitations of the Simi modular VST are blown away. Fully modular, no limit on the number of components, with nice visual modulation.
#3 Effects are able to be modulated...!! Oh ya... =]
Just brilliant, thank you to everyone working on this.
Yes, it's an amazing collection indeed!
Btw you can modulate effects in the vst just you need to use scene level rather than voice level modulators!
@@baconpaul5772 Good to know. Thank you. =]
Much ♥ to all the devs out there!
omg we just leveled up in VCV! These modulation tweaks are similar to Pigment (arturia) super powerful!
Perfect SurgeXT in VCV!!!Thanks for sharing!!Wonderful flute part Omri✌
Many thanks!!
Very eye-friendly collection, and reeealy nice sounding too.
I totally agree!
oh ja, what an amazing gem for VCV, sounds great, looks great, feels great and is FREE ... additional a awesome presentation from Omri, what can we ask more ;-)
Drone with the flute 👌
Wow. This is such a good kit. It has everything I wish I had when I first started using VCV.
It's an amazing collection!
24:00 Onwards has a Dune feel to it
Wow. This collection looks/sounds so good. Ready to rack this up!
OOHHH yea !!!
Thanks 4 sharing & bringing light to this epic-ness !!!!
Have fun!
Surge in VCV! Wow, one of my favourite synths for sure
Amazing possibilities with these modules.
great collection... The matrix mixer for cv and the wavetable vco are the most wanted for me.
Cool collection! Will try it this weekend to create some Tangerine Dreams like stuff ...
and if you can share it how you did it that would be nice
@@adrimathlener8008 I will try my best 😉
@@jornvanselow9759 I don' t dare to ask for anything more.
I've seen many YT about the sound of TD, but haven't found one that show how to create the sound of TD.
So I'm wishfully looking forward to how you create TD sound with VCV Rack
Omri has shown how to do ratcheting (very inspirational), that significant for TD sound recreation
And these from Synth seeker are a real treasure trove ua-cam.com/video/4IRfBQ7MqNc/v-deo.html
Noice! Neatly functional, and sound gr8. Looking fwd to these in the library.
Very Nice explanation, I like Surge XT! Your are a great coach!
Thanks so much!
Amazing collection! This could easily replace the standard VCV modules. Can't wait to try it. Thank you, Omri.
Enjoy!
Best news in Rack since XFX Wave got updated . Now I can hope this will make it into Cardinal as well !!!
Awesome modules! Can't wait to jam with them.
cool! hopefully soon in Cardinal version too!
update: they did put them in! yeehaw!
Wonderful! Can't wait to try them out.
Have fun!
holy smokes. that lfo-eg is amazing
Totally!
Love this synth collection and for sure your videos!
Thanks so much!
Excellent Tutorial and Thank You for all you do 👊🏾🙂
I appreciate that!
Great stuff here. Thanks for this. Does work within Cardinal, and then within DAWs and probably other host environments - though I will have to check a few more.
Surge just keep on impressing!
OMG !!!!!!! Love this synth ! Thank you Omri !
Cheers!
Always something new. Thanks
Cheers!
dude you are AMAAAAAAAZING
thanks for sharing 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much!
Oooooh, they look lovely! So inviting!
This is just what I've been looking for this month, a few new inspiring voices and a good new interface rabbit-hole to get lost in, the String VCO especially just sounds amazing. It all seems like great UI design and finally an excuse to dig into the Serge world. I've heard so many good things about it, but never quite 'got' the interface before in a way that stuck with me.
Finally finished the video, hah, so many jaw dropping moments! I thought people were being a little hyperbolic in the other comments about this collection leveling up vcv rack, but I think it's actually quite true. I have a feeling that many many of those are going to become go-to modules in every patch for me for some time to come.
Yeah, it's quite a special collection. It will keep you busy for months :)
Flute!!! So great. We need more flute in music.
Thanks :)
Mind blown! Great tutorial I need to try to replicate 20% of this...
Have fun!
Dam. I was going to catch up on life in November.
Thank you for this video! very useful and well done, saludos desde Buenos Aires.
So many cool toys! I know what I'll be doing for the rest of the day.
Have fun!
Holy Shit! You're a flutist!!! That was beautiful!
Thanks! I wouldn't say I'm a flutist but I can play a few notes here and there :)
Excelente demostración!, Gracias!.
Thanks!
Hey there. Thanks for the introduction of these modules. Do you have prper time sync with clock? Mine seem off
What module in particular and what clock source/speed are you feeding it?
@@stevebaker2896 the LFO x EG Module. Just regular impromptu clock. it doesn't seem to correspond with regular 1/4 note
@@renemosele When clocked the Rate knob acts as a multi/div of the input so that might have something to do with what you are experiencing - hard to tell without seeing your patch. Check out from 10:30 in this video though where Omri is doing exactly that.
Amazing set of modules.
What scale were you playing the flute in Omri?
G melodic minor :)
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for letting me know! That's interesting, I was expecting something more exotic but to be fair I haven't explored that one very much.
Dang these tools are amazing. Thanks for the info.
Cheers!
Surge is a blast! Great video as usual.
Thanks!
@@OmriCohen-Music You're welcome. The flute moment was pure gold.
@@DarkSideofSynth I think I left the earth for a few seconds
@@biocore01 So, tell us... is it flat? LOL!
@@DarkSideofSynth I went so far that I only saw a tiny white dot among many :)
sorry for not being able to answer these big questions, which make humanity suffer XD
Thank You, I really found your video useful! Can you construct and share file or show video, how the vst version of surge was built? It will explain a lot, how to program the vst version for Windows.
Hi, I'm not so sure I understand. Do you mean how the actual modules were built? Or how the synth works?
@@OmriCohen-Music I mean, that VCV version, probably, if I well suppose, are modules, made from fragment of source code of Surge VST. If I am right, then it is possible to make, knowing the Surge VST block schema, the VCV version of surge vst, acording the connection diagram of typical vst, such OSCs, LFOs, Filters, ADSR, VCA, VCO, etc. Theoretical we can make Modular version of vst plugin. Can you make something like that? It would be useful to know the way of connections and under stand how Surge works, so also, how to make presets, programs.
I can't find these modules in the VCV Rack 2 Library. Where to look?
They should be in the library soon
killing it as always!
Cheers!
I am kind of getting tired learning new modules instead of actually making music. However.. these seem to be wort it. There is some good stuff here!
For some reason, when I follow this, I can NOT get the envelope to work. I get constant envelope-less sound from the oscillator. Not my setup...I've tried other patches. Looks amazing and sounds great.
my lfo x eg does not say trig and trigenv, it says gate and gateenv. it also triggers constantly and not when i play the keyboard. any tips?
I think it was updated... I will have to try again and see what's going on
I hope you supported the developer with some money.
It's a great synth.
I you use it.
Buy it!
Well it's a free synth and the Surge team don't accept financial donations - but the thought is appreciated :)
If anyone feels the urge to part with some money you can support Omri by signing up to his Patreon.
Don't buy it, you cannot, it's free, open source.
Wow that's amazing!
Thank you! Cheers!
Is there any way in which i can create a custom "faceplate" with just the elements that i care about in a synth and hide the rest of the cables and other stuff i dont need in vcv rack?
I did that in reaktor. But there are lots of much more cool modules in vcv and i would love to build a bunch of simple machines,.
Not yet, but...
@@stevebaker2896 I think that would make it more apealing for people like me who dont like getting lost in thousands of cables, but would stil love to create their own devices.
I currently do this in reaktor, but it takes too much effort.
Ask again in a few weeks ;)
Do you have or can you give us a tutorial on connecting VCV Rack with a Daw like Logic Pro please?
I don't have any experience with Logic Pro, but there are other videos about other DAWs. Maybe it helps - ua-cam.com/play/PLiECaNQx239t8v45BajaTTfYc_oHu66ai.html
Amazing collection, amazing demo - thanks!
I wonder how well Treemonster works with pre-recorded samples or live playing ... I bet quite well, with some treatment of the source.
Over on the Rack forum someone said it works incredibly well with their flute.
TreeMonster works best with monophonic signals - the pitch detector is a pretty naive zero crossing with averaging and hysteresis. But the FX itself is polyphonic so if you can send 16 monophonic signals on the poly channels you will get a better result than summing them first. As to recorded music, well the filters are there to help you shape the input to get good detection. It's a bit of an art.
@@baconpaul5772 Yeah, absolutely - in typical use I would send "monophonic" playing/soloing from a guitar, or make some recordings of short loops. I have been using Entrian's pitch/env follower for this. It's great, but it introduces some latency in my setup which can be tough to compensate for. Hoping a naive implementation will be snappier.
Wait, what am I doing typing comments when I could be trying it out? This is amazing work - thanks!
@@fuzzix ha ha! We’ve thought about decomposing it some after our first release also including giving it a cv out for detected tuning and perhaps also making the tracker a standalone narrow module - stay tuned and follow the announcements thread on community or just add it to the library when we are done and look for updates in 2023!
@@baconpaul5772 That would be amazing. Will do - cheers!
I need that hoodie. 😊
thats awesome!!!
Great video! Thanks a lot.
Glad you liked it!
Beautiful !
Thank you!
@@OmriCohen-Music I was talking about the flute, and its sound, beautiful! With the reverb of course 😁.
this is *awesoooome*!
When the flute hits!
Mind blown
I've downloaded the file and can't figure out how to install! I'm on windows.
Just wow
Wasn't Surge available for a good while? Maybe not SurgeXT but Surge for sure was around.
There was a 2019 version - this is the massively new and improved 2022 version.
Oooh Yeah!
that fluuuuute
Such a nice instrument :)
@@OmriCohen-Music and the way you place it is solemn
Perfect thank you for sharing
Have fun!
HI! Im very new on VCV, how can i install this plugin??
Download the SurgeXT nightly build for your platform from: github.com/surge-synthesizer/surge-rack/releases
Then put the vcvplugin file in your plugin folder: vcvrack.com/manual/Installing#Installing-plugins-not-available-on-the-VCV-Library
The folder depends on your platform: vcvrack.com/manual/FAQ#where-is-the-rack-user-folder
Gonna rinse the absolute hell out of these ones
Seeing so many parts of Bitwig in this
it's really nice, but it's not showing up in the library yet.
It's a public beta and the download link is in Omri's video comments above. It should make it to the library at some point his month.
Impressive
Oh sweet
Where is the link to the beta? I don't see it in the description.
In the description look for the line beginning with:
"Here is the Surge collection currently in open beta..."
awesome
Cheers!
OK! i have seen enough, the time has come to clean up the massive collection of VCV modules. 🙂I guess that at least 85% of the modules can be removed. Let's clean! 😛
This is such a great collection!
@@OmriCohen-Music indeed, amazing. Big step towards the DAW! In fact together with the Entrian collection, VST plugins, Blob, Plateau, Vult...etc (paid versions) is this a great combination!