If Giovinazzi doesn't return to Alfa Romeo for the 2022 season, it might be a good idea for Schumacher to join Alfa Romeo. I think the duo of Valterri and Mick could be a good pairing. Better car and a much better teammate. Edit: Mick has been confirmed for Haas 2022 F1 Season as of Sept 23, 2021. Unfortunate but hope he finds a better team in the future.
@@kelvin36914710 Mick hasn't been confirmed yet actually, only Mazepin because he has a multi-year deal with Haas. It could be the reason why the second drivers seat at Alfa & Haas hasn't been confirmed yet, because Mick's entourage may be trying to move him into the Alfa.
..... Also the fact the stewards have ignored 90% of their incidents, seemingly because they are alone at the back of the pack is kind of a joke, with all the talk this sport does of safety.
@@josephfrg2035 Rookies can still crash and die? It also can lead to collisions effecting spectators and marshals. Rules should be rules regardless of where you start on the grid.
@@josephfrg2035 Sure, they're both rookies. But Mazespin isn't making this world any better what so ever. The only one who likes him is Mazespin himself. Although his parents are throwing money at N. Mazespin, deep down they regret having him as a kid. The only reward he'll ever get is "The least likable person of the century!" Hope Gene Haas finds financing somewhere else and throw that Mazespin shit head out of a moving vehicle and post it online.
Two rookies, one being an over-entitled pay-driver and the other being an F2 champion, coming into F1 through a team with a car that was already way down on pace and getting no development; topped off with team management that was already infamously poor before one of their drivers was their chief beneficiary. It's no surprise that they're going to come to blows when they're left fighting for scraps over who can drive a tractor faster. Mick deserves better than this.
Mick isn't the stand out talent his dad was or he wouldn't be unfortunate enough to have Mazepin as a partner. Having said that I'm not sure anybody deserves Mazepin as a partner his massive entitled behaviour would be an issue for any team mate. If Ferrari really wanted to protect their investment in Mick they would indeed be wise to pull a few strings and get him to Alfa where he could actually learn some things from a veteran driver.
This seems to me like Mazepin is driving far too aggressively in desperation to beat Mick at ANY cost so he can boast that he isn't a pay driver. That he 'deserves' his seat for beating the F2 champion, and son of one of the GOATs. Even if that means sabotaging the team and causing collisions.
I group Stroll and Mazespin in the same category, there are much better F1 drivers out there.. but we have to deal with the mediocre crop because they also bring in money 💸💸
The stewards failing to note Maz' pit lane move is pretty shocking. If they're making big strides to improve safety through more driver penalties, how come that one wasn't flagged up?
Well, this situation is no different from the Kevin Magnussen antics we used to see very often. In this case, F1 stewards are being pretty consistent even though it is for bad reasons.
Because it didn't happen to big names. Like if it was Lewis and Max we'd never hear the end of it. But two drivers for the team at the back? No one cares at the FIA
is Haas's car the worst on the track? i guess I'm just musing about how good Grosjean and Maghnusen must have been, if so... to be getting 10th place finishes, etc. (Or, idk... it could be that it's not proper to compare a team's car from two different years)
Well you always want to finish ahead of your teammate for further contract negotiations with other teams. Russel did this at Williams and his talent was clear, being very dominant and fast and thanks to him out performing his teammate he got a seat with Mercedes. Mick and mazepin are trying to do the same.
The fact that Mazepin pushed Mick into the entrance of the pit Lane and suggested that he should’ve lifted is ridiculous. If you’re being passed on a straight there’s not a lot you can do, you can push people of course, but if you’re saying he should’ve lifted or risk a gigantic crash then you’ve probably overstepped the ‘defensive’ driving. Has a lot of previous with that sort of thing and the F2 stewards punished him
Exactly! Unfortunately the stewards are ignoring it so we will see this move for the foreseeable future as maz is here to stay, until something bad happens. I pray that isnt the case
I think you hit the nail on the head when you noted that Mazepin has no motivation to be a better teammate. His dad is bankrolling the team, so as long as Mazepin is allowed to race in F1, he'll be there. Of course, bad management and communication is only exacerbating the issue. I honestly hope Mick is able to switch to Alfa or at least tough out another season at Haas before moving up to another team.
Unfortunately he will have to stay at haas. Ferrari dont have control in Alfa's seat anymore so alfa would probably go for Guanyu Zhou with his massive sponsorship. He is probably going to be like Russell and drive for Haas for a few years until he is ready for that seat in Ferrari. Unfortunately his teammate is a Mazepin, not a Latifi
@@maia_gaia yep, that's the bitter truth. Imagine if F1 is a purely merit-based sports, we probably would see a huge change in drivers line up for all teams
@@Juan444tv exactly! F1 is just a rich people's sport. A driver already needs to spend hundreds of thousands a year just while climbing up the karting career. Then making that shift from F3, F2 to F1, easily millions. Unless you have good sponsors, most of them are from rich families anyway.
The stewards are to blame. A few years ago Verstappen was stretching the rules too much with Risky defensive manouvres and was penalised accordingly. Since then, no driver has done this kind of thing..until now. The stewards penalise racing incidents when title rivals race each other but seem to care less about the questionable racing antics of Mazepin since he is at HAAS.
You actually quite wrong at this. In Austria,when Alfa - Aston crash happened, you can hear every engine keep revving as high as always. There should be about 10 penalties. But only ones who got one - was Nikita and Nicolas. Nobody else, stewards just let them get away with that.
Haas is to blame imo. was a crazy idea to bring in two F1 rookies, one of whom will clearly never progress from being anything other than a pay driver and then pitch them against each other in the worst machinery on the grid. seems pretty obvious they badly need one experienced driver to provide a good benchmark but more importantly stability and showing how you should work as a team to make gains.
@@XA-lm5oz cause I don't think he's predominantly at fault, i made no secret of that and literally everyone is subject to their own personal biases. i didn't blame mazepin either, he's entitled to fight for himself and his own career but I think you are sensitive to me saying he will always be a pay driver. that's just my honest assessment of his ability but that's a separate issues from who's to blame for the overall situation which as i said i blame haas.
I find it impressive that the stewards have never taken action against Mazeshit's shenanigans, even though they were well known in F2. He has already pulled the same Bahrein-esque kind of swerve twice, while not even getting a reprimand.
Stewards don't care as they are the backmarkers and these things happened between teammates. They would open their mouth if it was max or Lewis on the receiving end
Exactly. There seems to be no sense of authority or control from Haas management and never has been. This is how all Haas teams will operate if they don’t get someone with some balls to punish this type of stuff.
@@daktus05 I think your right, However imagine how tough it must be to recruit a a new trackside management team when your fighting for 18th and 19th and usually in the news for the wrong reasons. (:
Firstly, I'm glad there's a video dedicated to the Haas team. I'm sure this will be the drama we all need in the next season of DTS other than Max n Lewis. Anyway, my conclusion: - Haas are horrible at managing the drivers, also could be hesitant to stand up to Maz because of his money - Mick outperforming Maz is all the narrative needed for him to get out of this awful team even though he needs to probably stay for another season. - Mick is doing okay despite the pressure and tension with his teammate and being under the spotlight. He is also a nice kid with a sensible head on his shoulder. - Maz's on and off track demeanour leaves a lot to be desired. If he wants to earn respect, he need to shut his mouth and focus on driving sans those dangerous moves stewards aren't punishing.
Haas Teams management for me honestly, they've always seemed like they want success on the cheap. I also think that they shouldn't have gone with two rookies, I know why Mazepin is there and it is a big if, but he may have improved and respected his teammate if he was alongside a veteran. I can't see Mazepin not being a part of the team, but I want Schumacher to get into a different team. I can't see Haas benefitting his development, so maybe alongside Bottas at Alfa Romeo if they need a Ferrari driver.
They did it because Jean could not fund the team anymore, they need a sponsor and the sponsor wanted German in the car and Nikita well, do not explain that decision. But to be fair both driver have a shit car to drive with very poor balance so it no surprise they are spinning all the time. Next year should be a lot better for them if their so called development strategy for the 2022 car is a success.
Well the big difference is that Lance isn't a complete dickhead. And has actually learned to drive reasonably well in the past years. I mean he's no world championship material, but he's an oke and consistent driver. Almost the opposite of the Russian guy
Lance and seb have a pretty good relationship tho, lance is a solid midfield drive rn and there is the age gap, lance is the future of the team, he knows that, why would u even fight with a man whos coming to the end pf his career in the mext idk 5 to 10 years, i dont actually no how old vettel is so i might be wrong but theyre not competing like the two hungry rookies
@@jamesmiddleton8335 Would Lance have a seat in F1 if his dad wasn't sponsoring the team though? I'm guessing he wouldn't. Without the previous year's mercedes, Lance isn't much in the standings. After listening to his radio feed, any time he's involved in an incident or inconvenienced he whines up a storm.
Mazepin acting tough since he knows he's guaranteed a seat so long as his dad's company is Haas's chief sponsor. Mick needs to get out of there now and contact Alfa Romeo for that second seat.
Yeah, I also think the best Mazespin will ever do is be a Haas driver unless Daddy buys another team like Stroll did. Schumacher has the name and talent to win a WDC with a big team like Mercedes or Ferrari.
Unfortunately ferrari don't have control for that one seat in alfa anymore. Maybe the next step would be ferrari after all but not immediately, so mick is stuck in haas. Alfa would be a good idea but there's Guanyu Zhou with the 30mil sponsorship waiting out the door, no one will say no to that
@@TheMschelsea91 Ferrari does still have control over one seat in Alfa, Ferrari doesn't want Zhou in the team they want atleast one FDA driver, and with Bottas not being and FDA driver then Ferrari should still control that one seat
@@dutchgameboi2892 really? Last I read apparently Ferrari dont have control anymore. Meaning they cant force alfa to take a ferrari driver for one spot. This is why Zhou is highly regarded to be the 2nd driver. In fact rumours were circulating saying he was already offered a contract.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; mazepin is a dangerous, unrelenting driver with zero sense of remorse. This was seen in f2 and we’re seeing it again in F1. I don’t care if he’s the son of a billionaire who’s only there because of massive funding, He has no place in our sport.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Vinnie is clearly just picking on Mazepin because he is an easy target. Nothing new very original. Haas couldn’t even manage two experienced drivers
It’s a recipe for disaster. 2 inexperienced drivers in a team that has historically suffered from poor management. Why did they think they could do it lol
Gunther's management style of calling everyone a "f**** wanker" is useless here...since one kid is the son of a 7 time WDC and your only marketing tool and the other is the son of the guy bankrolling the team this year I bet behind the scenes he can't even scold any of them
@@sviniciusbraga he is not, Juguar F1 imploded under him with a far better budget than Haas. Good boss maybe, a fantastic engineer during his time in WRC, but not a leader
@@mafiousbj This is actually a well known phenomena in Business, known as the "Peters Principle". People who are good at "doing a thing" will get promoted until they read a management position, at which point they become much less capable because they've gone from "doing the thing" to "managing the people who actually do the thing" which is a totally different skill set.
I think it's a little bit of both. Haas did Maz dirty during that quali with the lack of communication but Maz also kept running his mouth at the media. Thank goodness mick at least takes the more diplomatic approach regardless of what goes on behind close doors
@@TheMschelsea91 Schumi Jr is the calmest driver on the grid. You should listen to his TR after their Baku incident. I literally have never seen anyone who go from 110% furious to 0% in a matter of 30s. It was mind boggling. Considering his young age, it’s even more incredible.
@@summerrain9871 I've heard his convos with his engineer, he is very calm indeed. The infamous beep beep from Russian gp makes it even more so. I feel like drivers like mick and Danny ric are very calm during races
Tbh, I think Mick has quite proved himself in a Haas that he can do something even if he is in a back marker car If Alfa doesn't bring Antonio back I'd say put Mick in the seat to give it a go
Took watching 1 interview to see where the issue is. Gunter takes no responsibility or effort to make changes, typically passing off blame to the team HE MANAGES lol. Not sure why Gene keeps someone with a mindset like that in such an important position
Probably because Gene simply doesn’t have the money to be competitive. The drivers are driving a shitty car, and are only competing against each other. They don’t have a simulator! Every team has one now, and is relying on them more and more. I’m not saying Gunther is great, but you he has to work with what he’s given, so it’s hard to blame him. I’m an American and would love nothing more than to see an American team doing well in F1. But without money, it’s not gonna happen unfortunately.
Steiner’s to blame. He even said himself that going into the season with two rookies might be a crazy thing to do. It was and is a crazy thing. A rookie should be paired with an experienced veteran driver who could be somewhat of a mentor. People will say Steiner was caught between a rock and a hard place. Steiner should’ve had the balls to turn away from either tainted Russian oligarch money or the family with the F1 name. He did neither. He crossed his fingers and hoped for the best. That’s not what a leader does.
If you're going to do it, at least make sure your race management team are up to scratch. For too often the drivers haven't been given essential information
Haas fell apart in Australia 2018 and has never recovered. Just because the drivers pilot the cars does not mean blame is to fall entirely on their shoulders. 4/4 drivers are experiencing the same issues.
Maz is a dangerous driver. The stewards have let him away with dangerous driving a number of times over the last few seasons. He should be, at a minimum, be given penalty points. Personally I'd warn him and drop him a race. This is beside the fact that he's a terribly unlikeable person
While Mazepin is clearly way more to blame for the relationship between him and Mick, and frankly I don’t think you should be an F1 with the way he behaves both on and off track, you have to note that it’s a team issue Roman and Kevin had similar issues so clearly something is wrong with Hass its self
So cause Maz has said it to the media, he’s to blame? We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, for all we know Mick could be throwing the n-word around like no tomorrow
@@richardhobbs7360 Mazepin's conduct both on and off track toward other people and other drivers gives a good insight into his personality, which does imply he is more to blame. I don't know why you're throwing in the possibility of someone saying slurs without any basis for it.
The whole team should go down the tubes. Gunther worse manager ever, Nikita too aggressive/immature, Mick no real talent (look at his junior series and now). Get them all out of this sport.
@@BobSmith-uu5kj did u really watch mick's junior career? Dude won both F3 and F2. No amount of Dad's money and name could have gotten him that. Just another hater I see...
Haas communication from pit wall to drivers has been pretty shoddy for the last 3 years. Mick needs to leave, and as for Guenther, I bet he's being held between a rock and a hard place with Gene Haas and the Mazepins so probably can't do much about anything. I wouldn't be surprised if the team folds in a couple years if Gene sells to the Mazepins and they keep looking like a bunch of wankers lol
Mazepin is to blame - Mick seems like a decent guy. I've seen how he talks to his engineers and the other drivers. Haas should have been able to use the Schumacher name for some good press this year to get a genuine backer but instead the Mazepin deal has just been bad news again and again.
Ikr, look at Williams they hired real deal to manage the team and this year they doing surprisingly good but let's see next year where new regulation brings to the table.
Grosjean was just last year’s Mazepin. F1 is better off without him, as I hope they will be with(out) Mazepin soon. [Edit]. Who chooses these F%#*ing clowns anyway? Seriously, is it the accountants?
but what should he do this year? Imagine if günther wanted to suspend mazepin as punishment for a race, how could that work when papa mazepin pays the salary of the entire team? And I think günther doesnt really care that much this year because the car is so bad. Maybe next year we see him yelling again :)
Haas seems to have a recent history of issues with team mates…I see the common thread here as leadership - or lack thereof. Watching “Drive to survive”, shows that all teams have short term “team mate friction”, but it is always nipped in the bud…except at Haas, where it just goes on and on until Gene Haas hauls Guenther Steiner over the coals and Steiner passes it on to the drivers… Bottom line is that Steiner is not a proactive leader and just lets all this happen, until it is beyond saving. If I was Gene Haas, I would be searching high and low for another Toto Wolffe, Christian Horner or Zac Brown to replace Steiner, before I even thought about driver lineup…
But he'll only be there for 1 year, and at risk of without a seat for 2023... (Well not guaranteeing he's still have seat for 2023 if he stays at Haas, but still) Since we already know where that seat will go to in 2023... 🤔🤔🤔
Yeah, that's exactly the problem. As much as many of us want Mick to make the switch to Alfa, where's he gonna end up in 2023? Theo's contracted to Alfa in 2023 and Bottas has a 3-year contract with Alfa as well. What's Mick gonna do? Crawl back to Haas? (Assuming Haas is still around by 2023) Sit out an entire year? It's an awful situation to be in tbh.
We're out here blaming drivers while driver relationships are always a problem at Haas. This problem is endemic and starts at the top and proliferates across the team.
My thoughts exactly, Grosjean and Magnussen had a lot of clashes during their years together. The main difference is that those two had enough experience to put it aside.
@@canismajoris6733 That’s still a 100% record of fractious team-mate relationships. Mercedes have to date only had 3 partnerships since they came back after all, and only one of them has been acrimonious.
Both Nikita Mazepin and Mick Schumacher have had their own undoings, I can't blame any of them. I think they are both frustrated by being at the back week in week out. The Haas management is also to blame for a poor car and not being able to manage and control 2 rookies!
They can’t be frustrated being at the back of the grid when they both knew that this was exactly where they were going to be - a 2020 car with a basic modified 2021 floor - as the team has publicly stated that resources and focus would be on the 2022 car. It’s 90% Mazepin and 10% Schumacher- I totally agree that this is a total failure of management in not being able to control 2 rookies, considering 1 is on Ferraris books it would make sense mick would not want to put himself in a situation where Ferrari dump him for being unprofessional- Vettel is also mentoring him and you can see that by his attitude and approach- diplomatic and calm. On the other side of the garage we have Mazepin- I have never in 30 years of watching f1 seen a pay driver with such disrespect for the sport itself let alone his own team (as long as daddy is paying) and such a sense of utter entitlement to a seat he does not deserve. He holds zero respect from any other driver on the grid- that says it all. He does not belong in F1. I’m not a fan of pay drivers but for teams they serve a purpose financially so we have to accept it. In this case this becoming ridiculous, Steiner needs to grow a set and tell Nikita and his daddy thanks but no thanks- there are other drivers they can sign either with experience that’ll help them get up the grid or another pay driver that would show a little bit more respect and also have the added benefit of being a talented driver.
I feel like Mazepin is that type of guy to kill someone by blocking them at high speed then say "I'll continue to do it because the police haven't arrested me yet."
@@NDakovic Don't talk shit, man. Schumacher has wiped his arse with Mazepin this season. Mazepin has successfully managed to piss the entire grid off with his stupidity and poor driving endangering everyone. Maze-spin has been the laughing stock of F1 and you're blaming it on his chassis?! 😂
Haas is a disaster itself, but Mazespin is a problem for the sport at large. A key point of context missing here is how much of a danger he has proven to be to all drivers.
They must put the responsibility on the both of them to make the effort and work together. Even if it is mostly mazepin causing these riffs, if they only shine the light on mazepin it won’t change anything.
How does Gunther manage to hire two sets of drivers in a row that fall over each other on & off the track? And assuming Mick isn’t a candidate for the Alfa seat, he has at least another year to deal with it.
Why would Mick deliberately impede Mazespin?? He is genuinely better, and yet still to learn some bits and bobs that does not mean he is a dirty driver..Mazeprick just try to magnify his importance since he learned that he is way off the pace of Schumacher's even in a crappy car like Haas..
Maz doing and saying everything to show to everyone he's actually a good driver deserving a seat on F1. He used to complain about his chassis as the reason behind his off performance against mick, he got his new chassis and still ain't improving enough to consistently beat mick. He's pissed that people like mick and not him and being consistently outperformed. Plus he's got an awful temperament anyway
This seems absolutely calculated by Haas. As in, they are happy with any sort of publicity they can get that distracts from how abyssal the car is. Plus they hope to be covered a lot on Netflix again 🤷♀️
The Stewards made mistakes, Mazepin made mistakes, Schumacher made mistakes. Majority I'd agree are on Mazepins side. What would I do? Quit the job as team principal, flip the table and run.
There is a simple truth. Schumacher has a future outside of haas, Mazepin doesnt. He isnt a bad driver, but he isnt very good and would definetely not be in F1 if it wasnt for his dad. That being said, there are paid drivers that are talented or improve over the years (as seen with Stroll). I just dont see him doing the same type of growing
@@dariuskromoser8936 Not purely because of it. But he would have come into the sport by talent alone. The dude won the F2 Championship, no fancy name nor money buys you that
@@p0werfu11 yeah sure let’s not give the kid that grew up without a father for a lot of his life any credit for winning a championship because he was „lucky“. There were a lot of good drivers in F2 last season, winning by 14 points in F2 is quite an achievement. He definitely deserved the step in to F1 more than Stroll, Latifi, Mazepin and Tsunoda
8:30 even with two rookies that was definitely the best lineup Toro Rosso ever had (and looking back now, an all round brilliant lineup despite their inexperience)
Guenther is to blame. The previous pair of drivers were always in eachother's space. Now these guys are. The team isn't managing them well, doesn't have the right protocols.
Steiner really seems to be a magnet for colliding teammates... We all know why Marzipan's there. It's not for his talent, or his bubbly personality. Though the team is at least partially to blame. I'm not saying that Schumi Jr is an angel, but he does seem to be much more naturally at home in F1. And no, I'm not saying this because of who he is. I wasn't a fan of his dad's. He just does seem to be a better fit.
Agreed. Of course no one is an angel but Mick isn't raising any red flags with his attitude and is the only driver alongside Alonso to not have any penalty points so far. Mick handles the media better too, you don't air your grievances to the media and attack your teammate and expect to get good feedback from everyone.
Mazepin is the worst paid driver in the history of F1. He makes, Stroll, his equivalent of sorts, look like a real champion. And, by comparison Lance does seem like a true race car driver.
No way is Mazepin the worst... he's may just slide in the top 10. Deletraz, Lavaggi, Rosset, Ide, Inoue, Yoong, Mazzacane, Nissany and Giovanna Amati were all way worse
Magnussen left. Steiner was angling for a Magnussen-Schumacher lineup. It was a good move for Magnussen, though. He hated fighting at the back, and now he's gotten himself a win at IMSA.
FIA should pretty much eliminate this Daddy's money concept from "The Pinnacle of Motorsport". I understand it was normal in the 20th century, but continuing it simple isn't the right foot forward.
Gunther doesnt care about what they do or how they get along this season as long as they dont crash. This is made abundantly clear when the only statements Gunther has done this year are about how costly the small mistakes that lead to crashing almost evey race are when it comes to budgets. He's fully invested in 2022. He'll think about the drivers problems when they have a competitive car.
As some folks in the comments have already pointed out, Mazepin is a danger to the grid as a whole while he's in that car. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't even received so much as a warning from on above for all the near misses he causes out on track with drivers of the midfield and top teams. The dude does not deserve a drive in F1 simply because he was somewhat fast in f2 or f3 or w/e and has a wealthy backing to buy his seat. Haas as a team should receive a penalty for every instance where mazepin causes trouble or puts another driver at risk repeatedly in the same race, because it was their greed that led them to him getting an F1 seat in the first place.
He also perceptively hurts viewership ratings at least in Russia, and I have to imagine elsewhere with all this bullshit. Who would want to watch a race where such an arsewipe isn't punished for blatantly endangering other drivers, repeatedly?
Haas are largely to blame for this conflict as well. Many times the two drivers have an incident on track, it’s down to one driver (usually Mazepin) not being told where the other is and this also applies to them meeting other cars as well. Their engineers are doing a poor job to keep them safe on track and are making this already bad season much worse.
Whole team seems incredibly out of focus and messy. Hopefully they put forth some serious investment into the 2022 car and the team to be a mid field car instead of end of field car.
I am *far* from Mazepin's biggest fan (I actually oppose his place in F1), but I think the blame for all of this lies on Steiner's shoulders. This is the second pairing of incompatible drivers he has had, and as team principal it is his job to keep the drivers in check and try to find ways for them to work together, or at least stop them physically confronting on track. The fact Romain and Kevin bickered for so long followed by this new unhealthy pairing, to me, suggests that Steiner is not capable of running a team and managing drivers.
As an American, I love seeing Gene Haas as a part of F1. Having said that, he really needs to get out. This team is a complete joke. I also like Guenther, but he is in a no win situation. Replace Mazespin for an actual decent driver (Hulk as just one example) and probably lose the team for good or keep Mazespin and remain in the back of the grid. As far as Mick goes, it's a shame he wound up at Haas and not Alpha Romeo. Mazespin is so unlikeable even in interviews I can't imagine how difficult it is to be around him all the time. I'm sure the issues between them stem back to F2. Maybe nothing on track but again, imagine being around that guy constantly.
I think Haas should try to get another pay driver instead of Mazepin (if thats possible), who might be worse than the rest of the field too, but at least drives safely, and doesnt have such a bad impact for their own team.
I would generally agree that Mazepin has the majority of the fault for the problems between the two drivers, but I would also say that Mazepin just isn't a talented enough driver to be in F1 to begin with. As far as I know, he has never won anything in the lower categories (in terms of championships), and never was really in contention to do so either. Mazepin also has struggled with just being able to follow instructions for changing modes/settings during some of the races, which seems to indicate that maybe he isn't the smartest driver as well. That's not a great combination, which probably is the reason that he exercises such poor judgement on track. I know Haas needed the money, but they should be working on getting the money into the team another way, so they can dump Mazepin.
A better question is: Who is blameless? Haas management are not sharing essential information with their drivers during races. The stewards are imposing penalties that are insignificant. (Lewis took a 5 second penalty for punting Max out of the race, but went on to win anyway; Valtteri got something similar for causing a crash that badly damaged both Red Bulls; same to Kimi when he wrecked Nikita in pit lane). Heck, I know how Max can secure this year's world championship: let Lewis get ahead and punt him into a wall; repeat as many times as possible within the demerit point limit. It's a bargain price to pay!
@@p0werfu11 nah, I think Bottas and Shummy could be good for each other, but don't take my comments so seriously. I'm new to F1, learning to love the sport. Sorry if I offended you.
I can't really blame Steiner. I get the feeling he's just treading water until Gene Haas sells the team, which will probably wind up in Mazepin Senior's lap.
Mazepin is bad for the F1 sport. Bad attitude. Bad driving. No respect for other drivers. No respect for the F1 rules. He's a crash waiting to happen at every race. If the stewards were consistent with penalties, he should have exhausted his available point for the year.
Most of the greats in the last 50 years started in a backmarker car and beat the hell out of their teammate. It’s 100% Schumacher’s fault. If he was a real talent he’d be .5 sec up the road 100% of the time and they’d rarely be on the same bit of track. .
I think you summed it up well when you mentioned Mazepins entitlement. While this joke is still on the grid all drivers are in danger. Sadly, because this team and driver lineup are mostly a joke not even the stewards can be arsed to care about what they do and the only way something will be done about it will come after their petty and pathetic squabbles over the scraps of the races will be when one of them causes a huge accident and someone gets hurt.
Uhh cause its a 2020 car they said they would focus 100% on 2022. Cause of budget. So you gona hate on them for trying to survive? I bet ur a great person
@@ELcinegatto87 then let's just change it to dislike. My vocabulary in English is not that much, hench I used the term hate. Not the point I wanted to send out so I apologize.
That pitlane blocking incident made me remember Schumacher vs Barrichello in Hungary 2010! Not many people apart from Barrichello had a problem with it at the time.
Percentage of people to blame for this Haas fiasco: 60% Günther Steiner due to this questionable and seemingly incompetent way of leadership. 30% Nikita Mazepin because of his reckless behavior on and off track, where he can do whatever he wants because he never faces any consequences. 10% Mick Schumacher just because it takes two for a tango. Apart of that, he outperforms his teammate regularly but for his career it would’ve been better to be at Alfa alongside Kimi.
A “dreadful F1 season???” I suspect most don’t think it’s a dreadful season. It’s the most intriguing and competitive season between different manufacturers in 9 years.
Haas made their bed going into business with the Mazepins. Nikita is lucky he’s not facing criminal charges for the sexual assault he committed on video. He doesn’t have the skills or self-control to be an F1 driver.
The fact that he's doubled down on his rethoric around swerving knowing how dangerous it is says more about his personality defects than anything. Add this to his attitude when the video came out and you can see a pattern. Narcissistic sociopath is my guess....
If Giovinazzi doesn't return to Alfa Romeo for the 2022 season, it might be a good idea for Schumacher to join Alfa Romeo. I think the duo of Valterri and Mick could be a good pairing. Better car and a much better teammate.
Edit: Mick has been confirmed for Haas 2022 F1 Season as of Sept 23, 2021. Unfortunate but hope he finds a better team in the future.
Mick in Haas is confirmed in 2021, also to Mazaspin
@@kelvin36914710 hopefully Ferrari tells haas to let mick go
good, Giovinazzi are JOKE
Might be a good idea from Mick but if we're being honest Mick and his teammate all right about the same skill level currently
@@kelvin36914710 Mick hasn't been confirmed yet actually, only Mazepin because he has a multi-year deal with Haas. It could be the reason why the second drivers seat at Alfa & Haas hasn't been confirmed yet, because Mick's entourage may be trying to move him into the Alfa.
“Mum, can we have Prost vs Senna?”
Prost vs Senna at home:
You... left out the middle line. That's illegal.
@@Navajonkee they forgor
@@ottojablonka 💀
Mum can we get Max v Lewis in 2021?
I'll see what I can do.
What mum can do ☝
P12 will decide the big title
..... Also the fact the stewards have ignored 90% of their incidents, seemingly because they are alone at the back of the pack is kind of a joke, with all the talk this sport does of safety.
True but maybe it’s because they’re rookies
@@josephfrg2035 Rookies can still crash and die? It also can lead to collisions effecting spectators and marshals. Rules should be rules regardless of where you start on the grid.
The stewards are a yoke!
Probably because half the shit they do doesnt get reported by Haas, so the stewards either dont know or turn a blind eye
@@josephfrg2035 Sure, they're both rookies. But Mazespin isn't making this world any better what so ever. The only one who likes him is Mazespin himself. Although his parents are throwing money at N. Mazespin, deep down they regret having him as a kid.
The only reward he'll ever get is "The least likable person of the century!"
Hope Gene Haas finds financing somewhere else and throw that Mazespin shit head out of a moving vehicle and post it online.
Two rookies, one being an over-entitled pay-driver and the other being an F2 champion, coming into F1 through a team with a car that was already way down on pace and getting no development; topped off with team management that was already infamously poor before one of their drivers was their chief beneficiary. It's no surprise that they're going to come to blows when they're left fighting for scraps over who can drive a tractor faster. Mick deserves better than this.
Mick isn't the stand out talent his dad was or he wouldn't be unfortunate enough to have Mazepin as a partner. Having said that I'm not sure anybody deserves Mazepin as a partner his massive entitled behaviour would be an issue for any team mate. If Ferrari really wanted to protect their investment in Mick they would indeed be wise to pull a few strings and get him to Alfa where he could actually learn some things from a veteran driver.
@@MrFinbarz couldn't agree with you both more than I do.
This seems to me like Mazepin is driving far too aggressively in desperation to beat Mick at ANY cost so he can boast that he isn't a pay driver. That he 'deserves' his seat for beating the F2 champion, and son of one of the GOATs. Even if that means sabotaging the team and causing collisions.
@@MrFinbarz I mean, he was the 2020 F2 champion, he has talent
I group Stroll and Mazespin in the same category, there are much better F1 drivers out there.. but we have to deal with the mediocre crop because they also bring in money 💸💸
The stewards failing to note Maz' pit lane move is pretty shocking.
If they're making big strides to improve safety through more driver penalties, how come that one wasn't flagged up?
$$$$$
Bribed
Well, this situation is no different from the Kevin Magnussen antics we used to see very often. In this case, F1 stewards are being pretty consistent even though it is for bad reasons.
Because it didn't happen to big names. Like if it was Lewis and Max we'd never hear the end of it. But two drivers for the team at the back? No one cares at the FIA
👏 💯%!!!
Damn, that battle for 19th is really heating up 😂
I don't think either of them want the wooden spoon for finishing last 🤣
is Haas's car the worst on the track?
i guess I'm just musing about how good Grosjean and Maghnusen must have been, if so... to be getting 10th place finishes, etc. (Or, idk... it could be that it's not proper to compare a team's car from two different years)
@@luceatlux7087 I think u replied to the wrong comment 😂
Well you always want to finish ahead of your teammate for further contract negotiations with other teams.
Russel did this at Williams and his talent was clear, being very dominant and fast and thanks to him out performing his teammate he got a seat with Mercedes. Mick and mazepin are trying to do the same.
LOOOL
The fact that Mazepin pushed Mick into the entrance of the pit Lane and suggested that he should’ve lifted is ridiculous. If you’re being passed on a straight there’s not a lot you can do, you can push people of course, but if you’re saying he should’ve lifted or risk a gigantic crash then you’ve probably overstepped the ‘defensive’ driving. Has a lot of previous with that sort of thing and the F2 stewards punished him
Reminds me of Daniil "Then don't keep going" Kvyat.
He did that to drugovich in f2 and that almost ended very bad
Hungary 2010
Exactly! Unfortunately the stewards are ignoring it so we will see this move for the foreseeable future as maz is here to stay, until something bad happens. I pray that isnt the case
I mean, Micks dad did the same thing to his old teammate so….
I think you hit the nail on the head when you noted that Mazepin has no motivation to be a better teammate. His dad is bankrolling the team, so as long as Mazepin is allowed to race in F1, he'll be there. Of course, bad management and communication is only exacerbating the issue.
I honestly hope Mick is able to switch to Alfa or at least tough out another season at Haas before moving up to another team.
Unfortunately he will have to stay at haas. Ferrari dont have control in Alfa's seat anymore so alfa would probably go for Guanyu Zhou with his massive sponsorship. He is probably going to be like Russell and drive for Haas for a few years until he is ready for that seat in Ferrari. Unfortunately his teammate is a Mazepin, not a Latifi
@@maia_gaia yep, that's the bitter truth. Imagine if F1 is a purely merit-based sports, we probably would see a huge change in drivers line up for all teams
@@TheMschelsea91 would also have a lot less teams...
@@Juan444tv exactly! F1 is just a rich people's sport. A driver already needs to spend hundreds of thousands a year just while climbing up the karting career. Then making that shift from F3, F2 to F1, easily millions. Unless you have good sponsors, most of them are from rich families anyway.
@@TheMschelsea91 Yeah F1 is never a working class sport. And never will be. And that's the bitter truth sadly
The stewards are to blame. A few years ago Verstappen was stretching the rules too much with Risky defensive manouvres and was penalised accordingly. Since then, no driver has done this kind of thing..until now.
The stewards penalise racing incidents when title rivals race each other but seem to care less about the questionable racing antics of Mazepin since he is at HAAS.
You actually quite wrong at this. In Austria,when Alfa - Aston crash happened, you can hear every engine keep revving as high as always. There should be about 10 penalties. But only ones who got one - was Nikita and Nicolas. Nobody else, stewards just let them get away with that.
Haas is to blame imo. was a crazy idea to bring in two F1 rookies, one of whom will clearly never progress from being anything other than a pay driver and then pitch them against each other in the worst machinery on the grid. seems pretty obvious they badly need one experienced driver to provide a good benchmark but more importantly stability and showing how you should work as a team to make gains.
@@braveheart4603 you didnt make any point as to why Schumacher is at fault. Your biases are showing.
@@XA-lm5oz cause I don't think he's predominantly at fault, i made no secret of that and literally everyone is subject to their own personal biases. i didn't blame mazepin either, he's entitled to fight for himself and his own career but I think you are sensitive to me saying he will always be a pay driver. that's just my honest assessment of his ability but that's a separate issues from who's to blame for the overall situation which as i said i blame haas.
That and they’re the same team doesn’t help
I find it impressive that the stewards have never taken action against Mazeshit's shenanigans, even though they were well known in F2. He has already pulled the same Bahrein-esque kind of swerve twice, while not even getting a reprimand.
Stewards don't care as they are the backmarkers and these things happened between teammates. They would open their mouth if it was max or Lewis on the receiving end
Mazeshit 😭😭😭
@Curly Cat really? No one here is in F1 though...
@Curly Cat So what are you getting at? You like him? Want to defend him?
Honestly, i blame Haas for the relationship between them, they dont seem to get to grips with team communication (warnings, teamorders etc etc)
yes exactly. stuff like this is so avoidable if the team would properly communicate.
Billionaire "Do what I want" mentality
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 I'm talking about Grosjean and Magnussen as well
Exactly. There seems to be no sense of authority or control from Haas management and never has been. This is how all Haas teams will operate if they don’t get someone with some balls to punish this type of stuff.
@@daktus05 I think your right, However imagine how tough it must be to recruit a a new trackside management team when your fighting for 18th and 19th and usually in the news for the wrong reasons. (:
Firstly, I'm glad there's a video dedicated to the Haas team. I'm sure this will be the drama we all need in the next season of DTS other than Max n Lewis. Anyway, my conclusion:
- Haas are horrible at managing the drivers, also could be hesitant to stand up to Maz because of his money
- Mick outperforming Maz is all the narrative needed for him to get out of this awful team even though he needs to probably stay for another season.
- Mick is doing okay despite the pressure and tension with his teammate and being under the spotlight. He is also a nice kid with a sensible head on his shoulder.
- Maz's on and off track demeanour leaves a lot to be desired. If he wants to earn respect, he need to shut his mouth and focus on driving sans those dangerous moves stewards aren't punishing.
Haas Teams management for me honestly, they've always seemed like they want success on the cheap. I also think that they shouldn't have gone with two rookies, I know why Mazepin is there and it is a big if, but he may have improved and respected his teammate if he was alongside a veteran.
I can't see Mazepin not being a part of the team, but I want Schumacher to get into a different team. I can't see Haas benefitting his development, so maybe alongside Bottas at Alfa Romeo if they need a Ferrari driver.
They did it because Jean could not fund the team anymore, they need a sponsor and the sponsor wanted German in the car and Nikita well, do not explain that decision. But to be fair both driver have a shit car to drive with very poor balance so it no surprise they are spinning all the time. Next year should be a lot better for them if their so called development strategy for the 2022 car is a success.
I think his respect for a veteran would depend on whether or not he buys in to his own bullshit, and i think he might.
@@CH-yp5by yeah, the car doesn't help, hopefully putting all the development into 2022 will result in a better one.
@@GenuineRage yeah, it would be a big if. I think it would have had to been someone other than Magnusson or Grosjean too.
Oh yeah bottas and mick combo sounds really good
One more thing for Seb to coach Mick on - how to handle driving with the owner's son.
Well the big difference is that Lance isn't a complete dickhead. And has actually learned to drive reasonably well in the past years. I mean he's no world championship material, but he's an oke and consistent driver.
Almost the opposite of the Russian guy
Lance and seb have a pretty good relationship tho, lance is a solid midfield drive rn and there is the age gap, lance is the future of the team, he knows that, why would u even fight with a man whos coming to the end pf his career in the mext idk 5 to 10 years, i dont actually no how old vettel is so i might be wrong but theyre not competing like the two hungry rookies
@@jamesmiddleton8335 Would Lance have a seat in F1 if his dad wasn't sponsoring the team though? I'm guessing he wouldn't. Without the previous year's mercedes, Lance isn't much in the standings. After listening to his radio feed, any time he's involved in an incident or inconvenienced he whines up a storm.
Mazepin acting tough since he knows he's guaranteed a seat so long as his dad's company is Haas's chief sponsor. Mick needs to get out of there now and contact Alfa Romeo for that second seat.
Mick is just doing his rookie time with a bottom team, the big ones will grab his contract when he is done with the Laughcar team.
Yeah, I also think the best Mazespin will ever do is be a Haas driver unless Daddy buys another team like Stroll did. Schumacher has the name and talent to win a WDC with a big team like Mercedes or Ferrari.
Unfortunately ferrari don't have control for that one seat in alfa anymore. Maybe the next step would be ferrari after all but not immediately, so mick is stuck in haas. Alfa would be a good idea but there's Guanyu Zhou with the 30mil sponsorship waiting out the door, no one will say no to that
@@TheMschelsea91 Ferrari does still have control over one seat in Alfa, Ferrari doesn't want Zhou in the team they want atleast one FDA driver, and with Bottas not being and FDA driver then Ferrari should still control that one seat
@@dutchgameboi2892 really? Last I read apparently Ferrari dont have control anymore. Meaning they cant force alfa to take a ferrari driver for one spot. This is why Zhou is highly regarded to be the 2nd driver. In fact rumours were circulating saying he was already offered a contract.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; mazepin is a dangerous, unrelenting driver with zero sense of remorse. This was seen in f2 and we’re seeing it again in F1. I don’t care if he’s the son of a billionaire who’s only there because of massive funding, He has no place in our sport.
Unfortunately nothing can be done abt it. Money talks,especially in F1.
Different to lewis how?
Brett Gooden There is no comparison. Just say you hate Lewis and keep it moving.
@@brettgooden7035 How the actual fuck is this in any way comparable to Lewis
Money always has a place in this sport
Everyone knew having 2 rookies was a terrible idea, but HAAS was adamant they could make it work... they have not
it would be doable if 1 of them wasnt a walking anus hole
@@vinnie8792 Mazepin is not even at fault every time. Can't blame him alone because Haas is out of their godamn depth.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Vinnie is clearly just picking on Mazepin because he is an easy target. Nothing new very original.
Haas couldn’t even manage two experienced drivers
It’s a recipe for disaster. 2 inexperienced drivers in a team that has historically suffered from poor management. Why did they think they could do it lol
All they need now is to put some Rich Energy logos on the car.....
Gunther's management style of calling everyone a "f**** wanker" is useless here...since one kid is the son of a 7 time WDC and your only marketing tool and the other is the son of the guy bankrolling the team this year
I bet behind the scenes he can't even scold any of them
@@sviniciusbraga he is not, Juguar F1 imploded under him with a far better budget than Haas.
Good boss maybe, a fantastic engineer during his time in WRC, but not a leader
They both literally just give him and f you. Give us a better car and be done with the conversation
@@mafiousbj This is actually a well known phenomena in Business, known as the "Peters Principle". People who are good at "doing a thing" will get promoted until they read a management position, at which point they become much less capable because they've gone from "doing the thing" to "managing the people who actually do the thing" which is a totally different skill set.
@@pavarottiaardvark3431 I could not agree with you more
This seems to be a continual problem for Hass. So I am thinking that its more of a management/leadership issue rather than a driver issue.
Very good observation.
I think it's a little bit of both. Haas did Maz dirty during that quali with the lack of communication but Maz also kept running his mouth at the media. Thank goodness mick at least takes the more diplomatic approach regardless of what goes on behind close doors
@@TheMschelsea91 agreed
@@TheMschelsea91 Schumi Jr is the calmest driver on the grid. You should listen to his TR after their Baku incident. I literally have never seen anyone who go from 110% furious to 0% in a matter of 30s. It was mind boggling. Considering his young age, it’s even more incredible.
@@summerrain9871 I've heard his convos with his engineer, he is very calm indeed. The infamous beep beep from Russian gp makes it even more so. I feel like drivers like mick and Danny ric are very calm during races
Tbh, I think Mick has quite proved himself in a Haas that he can do something even if he is in a back marker car
If Alfa doesn't bring Antonio back I'd say put Mick in the seat to give it a go
Tbh seems to me like mick is afraid if mazapin beats him one race it will tarnish his good name
But Nobody Knows Howe Good the Teams will be next year. Imagine MSC moves to Alfa and gets constantly beaten by a haas xD
Gunter ay fault, his previous drivers acted the same. He is the boss
Thank you, finally someone that uses his brain not only going after Mazepin because he is an easy target
Gunther is quite a clown. He can't even get the best from his mechanics
Took watching 1 interview to see where the issue is. Gunter takes no responsibility or effort to make changes, typically passing off blame to the team HE MANAGES lol. Not sure why Gene keeps someone with a mindset like that in such an important position
Probably because Gene simply doesn’t have the money to be competitive. The drivers are driving a shitty car, and are only competing against each other.
They don’t have a simulator! Every team has one now, and is relying on them more and more.
I’m not saying Gunther is great, but you he has to work with what he’s given, so it’s hard to blame him.
I’m an American and would love nothing more than to see an American team doing well in F1. But without money, it’s not gonna happen unfortunately.
Team owner is the issue, thinking his Laughcar cash is enough for the big league.
Steiner’s to blame. He even said himself that going into the season with two rookies might be a crazy thing to do. It was and is a crazy thing. A rookie should be paired with an experienced veteran driver who could be somewhat of a mentor. People will say Steiner was caught between a rock and a hard place. Steiner should’ve had the balls to turn away from either tainted Russian oligarch money or the family with the F1 name. He did neither. He crossed his fingers and hoped for the best. That’s not what a leader does.
Guenther wanted to keep Kevin, it was Gene haas who wanted mazespin for the massive amount of money his daddy was willing to throw at the team.
If you're going to do it, at least make sure your race management team are up to scratch. For too often the drivers haven't been given essential information
Mick has a mentor in the form of Sebastian Vettel
@@yankees512417 so go for Kev and Maz
@@richardhobbs7360 Schumacher is getting his seat paid for by Ferrari and they get a bunch of technical support and parts from Ferrari
Seems to me that this sort of thing happens a lot under Steiner
Haas fell apart in Australia 2018 and has never recovered. Just because the drivers pilot the cars does not mean blame is to fall entirely on their shoulders. 4/4 drivers are experiencing the same issues.
Maz is a dangerous driver.
The stewards have let him away with dangerous driving a number of times over the last few seasons.
He should be, at a minimum, be given penalty points.
Personally I'd warn him and drop him a race.
This is beside the fact that he's a terribly unlikeable person
While Mazepin is clearly way more to blame for the relationship between him and Mick, and frankly I don’t think you should be an F1 with the way he behaves both on and off track, you have to note that it’s a team issue Roman and Kevin had similar issues so clearly something is wrong with Hass its self
Both sucks - Haas and Maz. Haas probably can't say much because of Maz's money. Mick deserves better.
So cause Maz has said it to the media, he’s to blame? We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, for all we know Mick could be throwing the n-word around like no tomorrow
@@richardhobbs7360 Mazepin's conduct both on and off track toward other people and other drivers gives a good insight into his personality, which does imply he is more to blame. I don't know why you're throwing in the possibility of someone saying slurs without any basis for it.
The whole team should go down the tubes. Gunther worse manager ever, Nikita too aggressive/immature, Mick no real talent (look at his junior series and now). Get them all out of this sport.
@@BobSmith-uu5kj did u really watch mick's junior career? Dude won both F3 and F2. No amount of Dad's money and name could have gotten him that. Just another hater I see...
Haas communication from pit wall to drivers has been pretty shoddy for the last 3 years. Mick needs to leave, and as for Guenther, I bet he's being held between a rock and a hard place with Gene Haas and the Mazepins so probably can't do much about anything. I wouldn't be surprised if the team folds in a couple years if Gene sells to the Mazepins and they keep looking like a bunch of wankers lol
Mazepin is to blame - Mick seems like a decent guy. I've seen how he talks to his engineers and the other drivers. Haas should have been able to use the Schumacher name for some good press this year to get a genuine backer but instead the Mazepin deal has just been bad news again and again.
Haas has become a shit show, gene needs to sell the team and move on
Gunther's a funny guy but he's really unfit to be a team principal considering the same thing happened with Kmag and Grosjean
Ikr, look at Williams they hired real deal to manage the team and this year they doing surprisingly good but let's see next year where new regulation brings to the table.
Grosjean was just last year’s Mazepin.
F1 is better off without him, as I hope they will be with(out) Mazepin soon.
[Edit]. Who chooses these F%#*ing clowns anyway? Seriously, is it the accountants?
but what should he do this year? Imagine if günther wanted to suspend mazepin as punishment for a race, how could that work when papa mazepin pays the salary of the entire team? And I think günther doesnt really care that much this year because the car is so bad. Maybe next year we see him yelling again :)
@@superyamagucci I see you’re doing well racing in Indy now you’re F1 career is over. Oh wait, wrong guy, my bad.
I hate to have to say it because I really like the guy, but I think you're right.
Haas seems to have a recent history of issues with team mates…I see the common thread here as leadership - or lack thereof.
Watching “Drive to survive”, shows that all teams have short term “team mate friction”, but it is always nipped in the bud…except at Haas, where it just goes on and on until Gene Haas hauls Guenther Steiner over the coals and Steiner passes it on to the drivers…
Bottom line is that Steiner is not a proactive leader and just lets all this happen, until it is beyond saving.
If I was Gene Haas, I would be searching high and low for another Toto Wolffe, Christian Horner or Zac Brown to replace Steiner, before I even thought about driver lineup…
Mick needs to move to alfa
replacing giovinazzi 🙏
If only Mick made his F1 debut for Alfa Romeo, he's currently driving for a team that's a pain in the "Haas" right now.
As much as I may like Giovanazzi, I think Mick should replace him at Alfa. Haas won’t help in his development in F1
But he'll only be there for 1 year, and at risk of without a seat for 2023... (Well not guaranteeing he's still have seat for 2023 if he stays at Haas, but still) Since we already know where that seat will go to in 2023... 🤔🤔🤔
Yeah, that's exactly the problem. As much as many of us want Mick to make the switch to Alfa, where's he gonna end up in 2023? Theo's contracted to Alfa in 2023 and Bottas has a 3-year contract with Alfa as well. What's Mick gonna do? Crawl back to Haas? (Assuming Haas is still around by 2023)
Sit out an entire year?
It's an awful situation to be in tbh.
Mazespin is like the annoying little kid in kindergarten that wants to get an advantage in every possible way by throwing everyone else under the bus
For real… most accurate comment in this video 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
So are certain champions.
A bit like Verstapen eh
Sounds like Schumi Sr to me. I remember seeing him intentionally wipe Damon Hill out to try and save his championship hopes.
@@chrisgoblin4857 dont pretend any extremely successful champion is any better than schumi with that
We're out here blaming drivers while driver relationships are always a problem at Haas. This problem is endemic and starts at the top and proliferates across the team.
How? They have only had 2 sets of drivers so there is no way of knowing this.
My thoughts exactly, Grosjean and Magnussen had a lot of clashes during their years together. The main difference is that those two had enough experience to put it aside.
@@canismajoris6733 That’s still a 100% record of fractious team-mate relationships. Mercedes have to date only had 3 partnerships since they came back after all, and only one of them has been acrimonious.
Regardless of how many thousands or millions of sterling Mazespin brings, he’s simply a joke for Motorsport as a whole
Cope
the "but my Daddy" arguments must be well funny.
I'd see mick doing that more than Nikita. even thou his dad would rather punt than be passed
@@thepolishnz something like "my dads a millionaire", "so's mine", "my dads a 7 times world champion", "my dad can ski...."
Both Nikita Mazepin and Mick Schumacher have had their own undoings, I can't blame any of them. I think they are both frustrated by being at the back week in week out. The Haas management is also to blame for a poor car and not being able to manage and control 2 rookies!
They can’t be frustrated being at the back of the grid when they both knew that this was exactly where they were going to be - a 2020 car with a basic modified 2021 floor - as the team has publicly stated that resources and focus would be on the 2022 car. It’s 90% Mazepin and 10% Schumacher- I totally agree that this is a total failure of management in not being able to control 2 rookies, considering 1 is on Ferraris books it would make sense mick would not want to put himself in a situation where Ferrari dump him for being unprofessional- Vettel is also mentoring him and you can see that by his attitude and approach- diplomatic and calm. On the other side of the garage we have Mazepin- I have never in 30 years of watching f1 seen a pay driver with such disrespect for the sport itself let alone his own team (as long as daddy is paying) and such a sense of utter entitlement to a seat he does not deserve. He holds zero respect from any other driver on the grid- that says it all. He does not belong in F1. I’m not a fan of pay drivers but for teams they serve a purpose financially so we have to accept it. In this case this becoming ridiculous, Steiner needs to grow a set and tell Nikita and his daddy thanks but no thanks- there are other drivers they can sign either with experience that’ll help them get up the grid or another pay driver that would show a little bit more respect and also have the added benefit of being a talented driver.
@@matthewbarber13 oh I have, Max from 2015-18
I feel like Mazepin is that type of guy to kill someone by blocking them at high speed then say "I'll continue to do it because the police haven't arrested me yet."
it’s times like this where you need someone like Eddy Jordan, not scared to sack a pay driver if he was ruining his team
Yeah, unfortunately then he ran out of money.
@@sweetssandbox3526 That's the dilemma
Imagine Mick and Seb as teammates that wud be legendary
Only in dreamland though. Stroll has a permanent fixture there
Alas, pay drivers.
The key is leadership at the top---they need a decisive, strong leader that puts driver BS in its proper place ASAP!!!!!
Can't, when the driver's dad signs your paycheck.
@@sportsjefe That is why I said a strong leader ;-)
The entire thing has been instigated from Mazepin's side, so obvious he's salty about being the inferior driver in what's effectively "his" team.
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Exactly! First it was the chassis. Now that he can't use that as an excuse, he needs to find another attacking point
Reminds me of ... Stroll!! Always beaten by any team-mate... but daddy's the moneybags!
Hes obviously on pair with lil schuey with new chassies. Seems to me lil schumy boy is acting entitled here
@@NDakovic Don't talk shit, man. Schumacher has wiped his arse with Mazepin this season. Mazepin has successfully managed to piss the entire grid off with his stupidity and poor driving endangering everyone.
Maze-spin has been the laughing stock of F1 and you're blaming it on his chassis?! 😂
Solution: Mick to Alfa and Zhou to Haas. Two pay drivers with Haas. Team commie
Commie?
Yeah, why commie?
@@milkymane4910 good one libtard
Haas is a disaster itself, but Mazespin is a problem for the sport at large. A key point of context missing here is how much of a danger he has proven to be to all drivers.
Aside from the fact that haas would most likely not be here without Mazepin.
I’d hate to say this, but mazepin is the easiest target to bomb on. Stop trying to blame everything on mazepin
Not content to spinning himself, he's now moved onto spinning others.
Mazepin has showed he’s overly aggressive in the junior categories, not just in F1. Him and Ticktum should be teammates
@leipero Point of view : u are a deranged Schumacher hater
I find it hard to feel anything towards two billionaires' sons. But it is vaguely amusing to watch them fight.
Haas just can't figure their shit out this year. The rivalry between their drivers Schumacher and Mazepin makes them a literal clown show.
They probably already gave up this year anyway
They must put the responsibility on the both of them to make the effort and work together. Even if it is mostly mazepin causing these riffs, if they only shine the light on mazepin it won’t change anything.
How does Gunther manage to hire two sets of drivers in a row that fall over each other on & off the track? And assuming Mick isn’t a candidate for the Alfa seat, he has at least another year to deal with it.
@@sviniciusbraga It was a meme long before that.
Why would Mick deliberately impede Mazespin?? He is genuinely better, and yet still to learn some bits and bobs that does not mean he is a dirty driver..Mazeprick just try to magnify his importance since he learned that he is way off the pace of Schumacher's even in a crappy car like Haas..
Maz doing and saying everything to show to everyone he's actually a good driver deserving a seat on F1. He used to complain about his chassis as the reason behind his off performance against mick, he got his new chassis and still ain't improving enough to consistently beat mick. He's pissed that people like mick and not him and being consistently outperformed. Plus he's got an awful temperament anyway
Yeah this team can’t communicate with itself. Poor overall management leading to the team failing to handle the basics.
This seems absolutely calculated by Haas. As in, they are happy with any sort of publicity they can get that distracts from how abyssal the car is. Plus they hope to be covered a lot on Netflix again 🤷♀️
“Underdeveloped”
More like “undeveloped”
Maybe they count paint as development
The Stewards made mistakes, Mazepin made mistakes, Schumacher made mistakes. Majority I'd agree are on Mazepins side. What would I do? Quit the job as team principal, flip the table and run.
There is a simple truth. Schumacher has a future outside of haas, Mazepin doesnt. He isnt a bad driver, but he isnt very good and would definetely not be in F1 if it wasnt for his dad. That being said, there are paid drivers that are talented or improve over the years (as seen with Stroll). I just dont see him doing the same type of growing
You're saying Mick SCHUMACHER made his way to F1 purely based on merit?
@@dariuskromoser8936 Not purely because of it. But he would have come into the sport by talent alone. The dude won the F2 Championship, no fancy name nor money buys you that
@Rizvan Myrtaj yeah his dad gifted him the F2 championship. Also, his dad didn’t do shit, the name did. Please think before you say something
@@gamm8939 that championship was mostly a lucky coincidence
@@p0werfu11 yeah sure let’s not give the kid that grew up without a father for a lot of his life any credit for winning a championship because he was „lucky“. There were a lot of good drivers in F2 last season, winning by 14 points in F2 is quite an achievement. He definitely deserved the step in to F1 more than Stroll, Latifi, Mazepin and Tsunoda
8:30 even with two rookies that was definitely the best lineup Toro Rosso ever had (and looking back now, an all round brilliant lineup despite their inexperience)
wonder how they managed it
Guenther is to blame. The previous pair of drivers were always in eachother's space. Now these guys are. The team isn't managing them well, doesn't have the right protocols.
Steiner really seems to be a magnet for colliding teammates...
We all know why Marzipan's there. It's not for his talent, or his bubbly personality. Though the team is at least partially to blame. I'm not saying that Schumi Jr is an angel, but he does seem to be much more naturally at home in F1. And no, I'm not saying this because of who he is. I wasn't a fan of his dad's. He just does seem to be a better fit.
Agreed. Of course no one is an angel but Mick isn't raising any red flags with his attitude and is the only driver alongside Alonso to not have any penalty points so far. Mick handles the media better too, you don't air your grievances to the media and attack your teammate and expect to get good feedback from everyone.
I hate seeing Mick in this joke of a team
Me too
Same here
Seethe
Mazepin is the worst paid driver in the history of F1. He makes, Stroll, his equivalent of sorts, look like a real champion. And, by comparison Lance does seem like a true race car driver.
And Stroll accomplished more before f1.
No way is Mazepin the worst... he's may just slide in the top 10. Deletraz, Lavaggi, Rosset, Ide, Inoue, Yoong, Mazzacane, Nissany and Giovanna Amati were all way worse
@@ahogg5960 We're not talking purely about talent here, but attitude, of which Mazepin easily is the worst
Why they threw out Kevin Magnussen is beyond me.
Money.
Magnussen left. Steiner was angling for a Magnussen-Schumacher lineup.
It was a good move for Magnussen, though. He hated fighting at the back, and now he's gotten himself a win at IMSA.
"Mum can we have Rosberg vs Hamilton?"
Rosberg vs Hamilton at home:
I think Haas should hire someone like Mauzrio Arrivabene or Simon Roberts as team principal instead of Guenther Steiner
Or Pierre Budar (former head of the Citroën Rally Team).
I bet Netflix are rubbing their hands in glee!
I'm honestly anticipating the DTS version of this drama
Having two rookies a great success
Who's to blame?
Is it the driver who has run in's with most of the grid this year as well as half the F2 grid last year ...
Or is it Schumacher? 🤔
That’s a tough one
Haas should have kept Kevin Magnussen
1.11 "...a turning point for Mazepin..." - I see what you did there... very good! ;-)
Mazepin is unfairly in F1, he needs to go. Those late reckless moves are super dangerous and he should get penalized more
no, Giovinazzi is
@@Ivanhirano242 is that because they need an italian or?
FIA should pretty much eliminate this Daddy's money concept from "The Pinnacle of Motorsport". I understand it was normal in the 20th century, but continuing it simple isn't the right foot forward.
@@oscarchavez5364 because his three season in F1 look useless
Maz is trouble. I guess the money is the overriding factor.
Fighting for who is going to finish last this season. My money is on Mazepin.
Mazepin is already 21st and last lol
Gunther doesnt care about what they do or how they get along this season as long as they dont crash.
This is made abundantly clear when the only statements Gunther has done this year are about how costly the small mistakes that lead to crashing almost evey race are when it comes to budgets.
He's fully invested in 2022. He'll think about the drivers problems when they have a competitive car.
As some folks in the comments have already pointed out, Mazepin is a danger to the grid as a whole while he's in that car. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't even received so much as a warning from on above for all the near misses he causes out on track with drivers of the midfield and top teams. The dude does not deserve a drive in F1 simply because he was somewhat fast in f2 or f3 or w/e and has a wealthy backing to buy his seat. Haas as a team should receive a penalty for every instance where mazepin causes trouble or puts another driver at risk repeatedly in the same race, because it was their greed that led them to him getting an F1 seat in the first place.
He also perceptively hurts viewership ratings at least in Russia, and I have to imagine elsewhere with all this bullshit. Who would want to watch a race where such an arsewipe isn't punished for blatantly endangering other drivers, repeatedly?
Haas are largely to blame for this conflict as well. Many times the two drivers have an incident on track, it’s down to one driver (usually Mazepin) not being told where the other is and this also applies to them meeting other cars as well. Their engineers are doing a poor job to keep them safe on track and are making this already bad season much worse.
Whole team seems incredibly out of focus and messy. Hopefully they put forth some serious investment into the 2022 car and the team to be a mid field car instead of end of field car.
Hopefully that investment is from Volkswagen buying the team and shit-canning Mazapin
@@Al_Camino77 Wouldn't that be something... Anyway you cut it someone Haas to come last though.
I am *far* from Mazepin's biggest fan (I actually oppose his place in F1), but I think the blame for all of this lies on Steiner's shoulders. This is the second pairing of incompatible drivers he has had, and as team principal it is his job to keep the drivers in check and try to find ways for them to work together, or at least stop them physically confronting on track. The fact Romain and Kevin bickered for so long followed by this new unhealthy pairing, to me, suggests that Steiner is not capable of running a team and managing drivers.
Haas just needs to drop Mazespin and let him and his daddy start their own race team if they can.
As an American, I love seeing Gene Haas as a part of F1. Having said that, he really needs to get out. This team is a complete joke. I also like Guenther, but he is in a no win situation. Replace Mazespin for an actual decent driver (Hulk as just one example) and probably lose the team for good or keep Mazespin and remain in the back of the grid. As far as Mick goes, it's a shame he wound up at Haas and not Alpha Romeo. Mazespin is so unlikeable even in interviews I can't imagine how difficult it is to be around him all the time. I'm sure the issues between them stem back to F2. Maybe nothing on track but again, imagine being around that guy constantly.
He should sell the team to Andretti.
I love how mazepin is all butthurt about his timing when he's almost always last
I think Haas should try to get another pay driver instead of Mazepin (if thats possible), who might be worse than the rest of the field too, but at least drives safely, and doesnt have such a bad impact for their own team.
I would generally agree that Mazepin has the majority of the fault for the problems between the two drivers, but I would also say that Mazepin just isn't a talented enough driver to be in F1 to begin with. As far as I know, he has never won anything in the lower categories (in terms of championships), and never was really in contention to do so either. Mazepin also has struggled with just being able to follow instructions for changing modes/settings during some of the races, which seems to indicate that maybe he isn't the smartest driver as well. That's not a great combination, which probably is the reason that he exercises such poor judgement on track. I know Haas needed the money, but they should be working on getting the money into the team another way, so they can dump Mazepin.
A better question is: Who is blameless?
Haas management are not sharing essential information with their drivers during races. The stewards are imposing penalties that are insignificant. (Lewis took a 5 second penalty for punting Max out of the race, but went on to win anyway; Valtteri got something similar for causing a crash that badly damaged both Red Bulls; same to Kimi when he wrecked Nikita in pit lane). Heck, I know how Max can secure this year's world championship: let Lewis get ahead and punt him into a wall; repeat as many times as possible within the demerit point limit. It's a bargain price to pay!
"... a turning-point for Mazepin." haha.. i see what you did there :)
This season things are not just heated at the front but also at the very back !
Mazepin is the driver with a "reputation" in the paddock as a dangerous driver. Move Mick to Alpha please.
You must hate Alpha then because Bottas won't carry 200% for two drivers.
@@p0werfu11 nah, I think Bottas and Shummy could be good for each other, but don't take my comments so seriously. I'm new to F1, learning to love the sport. Sorry if I offended you.
@@xPolluxTroyx it's fine, I just really don't see how it'll help Alpha. Maybe Mick will convince me in the next season.
As a german, I never heard a native english speaker pronounce Günther Steiner correctly. Props for that mate!
Mazepin should get the boot.
Unfortunately, he brings the money, doesn’t he.
I can't really blame Steiner. I get the feeling he's just treading water until Gene Haas sells the team, which will probably wind up in Mazepin Senior's lap.
Mazepin should have his licence removed
Remove it then
Mazepin is bad for the F1 sport. Bad attitude. Bad driving. No respect for other drivers. No respect for the F1 rules. He's a crash waiting to happen at every race. If the stewards were consistent with penalties, he should have exhausted his available point for the year.
Most of the greats in the last 50 years started in a backmarker car and beat the hell out of their teammate. It’s 100% Schumacher’s fault. If he was a real talent he’d be .5 sec up the road 100% of the time and they’d rarely be on the same bit of track. .
Agree 💯 Mick needs to just shut up and drive faster. Like his dad.
@@jstoli996c4s the one time he didn’t was silverstone…
At least Schumacher beats Mazepin every race except Silverstone.
I think you summed it up well when you mentioned Mazepins entitlement. While this joke is still on the grid all drivers are in danger. Sadly, because this team and driver lineup are mostly a joke not even the stewards can be arsed to care about what they do and the only way something will be done about it will come after their petty and pathetic squabbles over the scraps of the races will be when one of them causes a huge accident and someone gets hurt.
HAAS has been such a slow car this season I don’t know how the media aren’t roasting them constantly
Uhh cause its a 2020 car they said they would focus 100% on 2022. Cause of budget. So you gona hate on them for trying to survive? I bet ur a great person
I believe a lot of this is the frustration of Dominic Haines.
They need someone who can decipher an idiotic baby.
Mazepin at this point is such a meme, I don't know if majority of us hates him, but I certainly do. He lacks, for a better term, sportsmanship.
Hate is a bit much. What has the guy done to you?
@@ELcinegatto87 then let's just change it to dislike. My vocabulary in English is not that much, hench I used the term hate. Not the point I wanted to send out so I apologize.
That pitlane blocking incident made me remember Schumacher vs Barrichello in Hungary 2010! Not many people apart from Barrichello had a problem with it at the time.
Different rules, regulations and expectations 11 years ago. Sport has changed a lot since then and not for the better imo.
Hamilton's fault.
Percentage of people to blame for this Haas fiasco:
60% Günther Steiner due to this questionable and seemingly incompetent way of leadership.
30% Nikita Mazepin because of his reckless behavior on and off track, where he can do whatever he wants because he never faces any consequences.
10% Mick Schumacher just because it takes two for a tango. Apart of that, he outperforms his teammate regularly but for his career it would’ve been better to be at Alfa alongside Kimi.
Nikita Mazepin has no business in Formula 1. He is the worst driver I have ever seen.
You are the first like.
You liked yourself, didn’t you?
You really haven’t been watching F1 for very long have you?
worst F1 driver are Jean-Dennis Deletraz
@@LSchelvin71 The 90’s was chock full of bloody awful pay drivers, Deletraz being one of them. I think Giovanni Lavaggi would get my vote though.
A “dreadful F1 season???”
I suspect most don’t think it’s a dreadful season. It’s the most intriguing and competitive season between different manufacturers in 9 years.
Yeah, exactly, someone there must be a hardcore Mercedes fan; they actually might not win the titles this year = "what a dreadful season", lol 😆
Haas made their bed going into business with the Mazepins. Nikita is lucky he’s not facing criminal charges for the sexual assault he committed on video. He doesn’t have the skills or self-control to be an F1 driver.
The fact that he's doubled down on his rethoric around swerving knowing how dangerous it is says more about his personality defects than anything. Add this to his attitude when the video came out and you can see a pattern.
Narcissistic sociopath is my guess....
Who knew that Grosjean and Magnussen were the calmer Haas driver line up?