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  • @meirkarlinsky7497
    @meirkarlinsky7497 2 дні тому +15

    Very nice derivation and a superb explanation (as usual by this presentor) ! I did verified (proved ?) the formula by using your X matrix, expressing matrix A as X^2, computing its trace and det, then using the formula, showing that indeed it arrives at matrix X. But I wondered how one arrived, in the first place, at the formula - and now I know... - Thanks !

  • @mathunt1130
    @mathunt1130 День тому +10

    You missed a trick. Use the Cayley-Hamiltonian theorem again, X^2-tr(X)X+det(X)I_2=0. Note that taking the trace is a LINEAR operation. Take the trace to obtain:
    tr(X^2)-(tr(X))^2+2det(X)=0. Note that X^2=A, and det(X)=sqrt(det(A)) and rearrange to get: (tr(X))^2=tr(A)+2sqrt(det(A)), take square roots to get tr(X)=sqrt(tr(A)+2sqrt(det(A))).
    I think that this is slicker.

  • @chriscalderon1337
    @chriscalderon1337 День тому +1

    I wish you we around 10 years ago when I was first tackling these kinds of problems!

  • @jay_sensz
    @jay_sensz 2 дні тому +7

    Some 2x2 matrices can have infinitely many square roots, not just up to 4.
    For example, a matrix of the form [[1,0],[x,-1]] is a square root of the 2x2 identity matrix for any complex number x.

  • @KamalAzhar-t7q
    @KamalAzhar-t7q 2 дні тому +2

    There may be infinitely many solutions. For example every involution matrix (A^2=Id) is a square root if the identity matrix. But if we consider solutions up to similarity we have at most 4 solutions.

  • @luisdanielmartinezhernande5715
    @luisdanielmartinezhernande5715 2 дні тому +1

    Hi, I'm from Mexico, and I´m studying computing engeneer, and this kind of exercises caught my attention, this formula or this topic I've never seen on my Linear Algebra course, and I would like to know how can I find this theme or if this is particularly on a Lineal Algebra Course, Very nice video i learned something new. Thanks

  • @ruud9767
    @ruud9767 2 дні тому +2

    Superb! For linear algebra I recommend Prime Newtons.

  • @jeromevatrinet3432
    @jeromevatrinet3432 День тому

    Very interesting video using Cayley-Hamilton thr.

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 2 дні тому +4

    Excellent Job!

  • @JacobHa
    @JacobHa День тому

    I have another idea about the proof.
    Let √A = k ( A + p I )
    Then
    A = k^2 ( A + p I )^2 = k^2 (A^2 + 2pA + p^2 I)
    Then use Cayley-Hamilton theorem to reduce A^2 in terms of A and I, and then comparing the coefficients of A and I on both sides and then solve for k and p.

  • @MajhabChowdhury
    @MajhabChowdhury 22 години тому

    You are so cool at math💚

  • @ingiford175
    @ingiford175 День тому +1

    What would be a good linear algebra book for self study that has the Cayley-Hamiltonian and problems such as finding square roots of matrixes?

  • @CaioBrutusLeoni
    @CaioBrutusLeoni День тому +1

    Very good professor!

  • @alipourzand6499
    @alipourzand6499 2 дні тому +2

    Nothing is better than rice, except this formula probabely!
    Can this be extended to higher dimensions or is only valid for 2x2 matrices?

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 2 дні тому +1

      He should have done that with a 3x3 matrix of X = [(a,b,c), (d,e,f), (g,h,i)] solution and in terms of a + e + i = tr(X) and det(X)= aei + bfg + cdh - gec - hfa - idb = det(X). We know the eigenvalue Caly Hamilton formula is true for nth eigenvector of [A] - (lambda)[I] = 0 in studying n eigenvalues for NxN matrix [A].😑🙄🤯
      I haven't proved all that but for 2x2 matrices his solution is proof enough. 😁👍

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 2 дні тому

      Correct my Cayly Hamilton eigenvalues idea to det[A -(lambdas)[I]] = 0. Not the A - (lambda matrix)[I] = 0 incorrect Cayly Hamilton Eigenvector stated formula.
      Also [(a, b, c), (d, e, f), (g, h, i)]^2 = a(a + d + g), b(b + e + h), c(c + f + i), etc for 3x3 matrix of nine calculated elements in each row and column will need to tie in with the previous three equations.

  • @mathunt1130
    @mathunt1130 День тому

    Note that tr(A) and dat(A) are invariants of the matrix. So I suspect that there is a topological derivation of this result which is quite simple in application.

  • @terryshell9045
    @terryshell9045 День тому

    Nice exercise!

  • @ilafya
    @ilafya День тому

    Well said stop learning stop living

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 2 дні тому +1

    6:02 Cayley-Hamilton theorem that is what is not present in your algebra series
    but what I suggested in my comments to record video about it

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 2 дні тому

      It is true for 2x2 matrices but more useful for considering NxN matrix of n eigenvalues not just 2 eigenvalues!

  • @illumexhisoka6181
    @illumexhisoka6181 18 годин тому

    Does this formula work for matrices larger than 2x2 ?

  • @ilafya
    @ilafya День тому

    Well done

  • @invisiblelemur
    @invisiblelemur 9 годин тому

    Nice! Better than rice!

  • @Maths786
    @Maths786 2 дні тому

    Sir please do a limit question which was came in
    JEE Advanced 2014 shift-1 question number 57
    it's a question of a limit
    lim as x-->1
    [{-ax + Sin(x-1) + a}/{x + Sin(x-1) - 1}]^[{1-x}/{1-√x}] = 1/4
    You have to find the greatest value of a
    It has 2 possible answers 0 and 2
    But I want the reason that why should I reject 2 and accept 0
    Because final answer is 0
    Please help 😢

  • @Hirodal
    @Hirodal День тому

    Thanks!

  • @Converge89
    @Converge89 День тому +1

    Dressed up really nicely
    Very sophisticated

  • @nimaalz4513
    @nimaalz4513 День тому

    plzzz prove Cayley-Hamilton theorem

  • @ThePayner11
    @ThePayner11 День тому

    Is there a formula for the nth root of the 2 x 2 matrix A?

  • @Sarah-PeaceFalaju
    @Sarah-PeaceFalaju 2 дні тому +3

    Thank you so much. God bless you 🙏❤
    You're a man of your word. Thank you for the likes 😊

  • @denniskisule8131
    @denniskisule8131 День тому +1

    Prime newtons you sound like Richard Mofe Damijo and I imagine you are a Nigerian

  • @yasinforughi-b1z
    @yasinforughi-b1z 2 дні тому

    Please do more MIT integration bee problems 🙏🙏

  • @nedmerrill5705
    @nedmerrill5705 День тому

    It's apparent that A can't be singular for this to work, right? You can't have a square root of a singular matrix, is that right?

    • @MathsLikeALegend
      @MathsLikeALegend 19 годин тому

      you can sometimes take the square root of a singular matrix! funnily enough, I made a video about this same topic on my channel just a couple of weeks ago, but basically, if the determinant = 0, it sometimes just reduces the potential number of square roots to 2 as opposed to 4.

  • @dieuwer5370
    @dieuwer5370 День тому

    Much too complicated. Let's do it differently:
    Let A as described in the video. Then, let X^2 = A, with X = matrix of x1...x4. Then, a1 = x1^2 + x2*x3; a2 = x1*x2 + x2*x4; a3 = x1*x3 + x2*x4; a4 = x2*x3 + x4^2.
    Four equations, four unknowns. Solve. Done.

  • @MajhabChowdhury
    @MajhabChowdhury 21 годину тому

    Who give this formula?

    • @MathsLikeALegend
      @MathsLikeALegend 18 годин тому

      Originally it was published by Levinger, B. W. (1980). The Square Root of a 2 × 2 Matrix. Mathematics Magazine, 53(4), 222-224.

  • @penguincute3564
    @penguincute3564 4 години тому

    WHY THE * IS THE MATRIX IN THE FRACTIONS!? MATRICES ARE UNABLE TO DIVIDE.

  • @nimmyelnancwat9418
    @nimmyelnancwat9418 День тому

    I sent question in ur mail but no response yet from you

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 2 дні тому +1

    (a-λ)(d-λ)-bc=0 ad-aλ-d λ+ λ^2-bc=0 λ^2-(a+d)λ+ad-bc=0 a+d=tr(X)

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 2 дні тому +1

    X=Sqrt[A] X^2=A

  • @Karlston
    @Karlston 2 дні тому

    My maths degree has several decades of dust on it, so forgive a perhaps silly question...
    For the determinant of A, if we consider the positive square root in the numerator, must we be consistent and also use the positive square root in the denominator? And similarly for the negative square root, thus leading to up to two distinct solutions?
    Or can we mix their signs, thus leading to up to four distinct solutions?
    And, I just realised, if we consider the entire denominator also can be positive or negative, up to eight distinct solutions?

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 2 дні тому

      Your math degree let you lose focus on [(a, b), (c, d)] matrix [X]! I think all ✓s are principle square roots or all positive because variables a, b, c and d are not stated as being negative or positive number replacement variables.

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 2 дні тому

      I have to clarify since we notice we'll only consider only two and only two things, the ad > bc or ad < bc cases that substituting a, b, c and d values into those variables. Also notice a square roots when ad < bc is taking the square roots of a negative. The condition ad - bc has to equal or be greater than 0 or else we have a complex number in the formula which is not good in matrices of real numbers math.

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 2 дні тому

      Maybe I'm rushing too much but ad can be greater or less than be or 0 in matrix X but it is true that det[a] has to positive when he takes the square roots in the formula. Substituting the a, b, c and d values for matrix A forces it's ad > bc elements condition to be true or ✓negative in determinant is a complex number calculation while if it was positive then the elements of X matrix is only for two cases since we are squaring. ad > bc and ad < bc are both okay for elements in matrix X because they'll multiply (-)(-) or (+)(+) as positive. So in summary whatever you take ✓detA as you have to be consistent in the denominator or you'll form a negative detA which is not a real number solution.

    • @Karlston
      @Karlston День тому +2

      OK, answering my own question about whether the formula works for all four combinations for the signs of the formula's two square roots of det(A) What better way than to try them all and see what happens...
      +/+ (both positive) works as expected, -/- (both negative) also works. But neither varying of the signs... +/- nor -/+ work, though the former (when squared) gives a multiple (9) of A, and the latter (when squared) a multiple (2) of I.

    • @lawrencejelsma8118
      @lawrencejelsma8118 День тому +1

      @Karlston ... Answering your possible "overthink" the determinant of the squared matrix has to be positive only. Otherwise by the formula the square root of th determinant of matrix A in the derived formula goes imaginary. This teacher forgot to mention that the determinant of matrix A must be positive. That is requirement #1. Now [A] = [X][X] so we haven't figured what the determinant of [X] is figured out to be.
      You haven't taken an Abstract Algebra course in university math studies. So until you do you'll continue to accept a wrong matrix relationship: [A][B] = [B][A]. Matrices do not form an "abelian group!"
      So like all "non abelian" products only unique matrices [X] times [X] have only a unique set of elements a, b, c and d that form the matrix A elements a, b, c and d of that mateix

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 2 дні тому +1

    X= {{a,b},{c,d}} det(X-λI)=0 det({{a-λ,b},{c,d-λ}})=0

  • @Me-dx2lq
    @Me-dx2lq 2 дні тому +2

    Cool

  • @LavyaMaths
    @LavyaMaths 2 дні тому

    Amazing

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 2 дні тому +1

    tr(A)=a^2+d^2+2bc=(a+d)^2-2ad+2bc=(a+d)^2-2(ad-bc) tr(A)=(tr(X))^2-2 detX tr(X)=Sqrt[tr(A)+2det(X)]=Sqrt[tr(A)+2Sqrt[det A]] Sqrt[A]=(A+Sqrt[det(A)] I]/(Sqrt[tr(A)+2Sqrt[det A])

  • @pow3rofevil
    @pow3rofevil 2 дні тому

    Muy buenos videos amigo, saludos