Weekly Update EP:21 A TAX Revolt is needed!
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Taxation is the most sophisticated robbery the world has ever seen
I can't see any ratepayers disagreeing with this. I don't care who you vote for. We vote for them to better our lives, not enrich themselves.
People wont, cowards.
@@peterzinn9070 I have to disagree with your comment. No bravery needed to do this. There is nothing illegal about it. People will still be paying their rates just not directly to the people wasting it. We need accountability
Agree with you wholeheartedly, Mike! We’ve been held hostage by the criminal ANC for too long. Let’s throttle the fiscus so that the trough that the crooked politicians have been feeding from is empty. Thank you for your courage, I’d vote for you to represent me in government
Brilliant idea, please keep us informed
We don’t want the anc to be in power again we tired of this bullshit
Louise, we must come up with suggestions. Only we can help ourselves. Im starting to work on something and are prepared to go to jail. I have nothing more to lose.
The most honest account of the transition to the new RSA ever! Unfortunately as the minority, and excluded from most large local or national BEE deals, the traditional tax payer cannot comprehend how deep and the monumental amounts of money that is involved. (on a side note, Thabo Mbeki ran the country for 3 terms, Mandela was the worlds darling and was a symbol of unification-Mbeki had the intellect to keep the country going.) I also believe Zuma has been protected for years , as the”arms deal” was beneficial to all who held senior ANC positions in the Government at the time- He holds all the cards , and the comrades can’t afford for the genie to get out of the bottle. Same as state capture-if we wait long enough-it will slowly be forgotten-
Great show-keep up the good work-if only the masses were as informed of what is really going on-
LIKE AND SHARE THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE. TIME TO START A CLASS ACTION. WE NEED NUMBERS THAT PRISONS CAN OVERFLOW. WE ARE MORE THAN THEY. THEY ONLY HAVE MONEY. WE HAVE THE NUMBERS,
I like the " excluded from most large local" ur ppl don't like to be included
I believe that the country has moved on from your analysis. I think that the black middle class which is now considerably larger than the white middle class. The time has come for citizens of the country to stand together based on common shared interests rather than colour.
I live and work in suburbs that were until recently predominantly white. This has changed dramatically in the past 5 years because of the decline in the size of the white population and the progress of the black middle class. It makes a mockery of the old trope that it is only white racists who want quality services in the suburbs.
Excellent idea. The government works for us after all and as our employee, they are failing on too many fronts.
Fact!
this strategy needs legs and drive im sure everyone will do it if its legal and controlled, these criminals must be stopped for good, Well done Mike
We are one of the highest taxed in the world. We are taxed on salary, home and vehicle. Where does it end? Oh jail if I’m not a slave to them. It’s just madness.
Add the taxes onto already taxed salaries or i ncome to the buying of food and clothes etc , taxed on top of tax on top of tax!!!😢
@@lenawagner6405 💯🎯
Tax is theft. You get taxed on your salary. Then you get taxed on top of that, on anything you buy, food, home, car.... Why is no one sueing SARS for theft?
@@Yvdberg - im horrified that as a low income pensioner im now being taxed to death.
This is the coolest idea ever 😊👌!! Superb! It's non violent but absolutely effective in exposing the ANC and people who want to stay in government just the rates the chow. Once the rates aren't coming in as easily as they've always been, then we are only going to remain with the real builders in Gvt.
There are none at present in government who cares about the electorate. For them its about power. Antie Helen is a zionist, geordan and the matriculant john are NWO heavy and sells the country on a silver platter cirryl is a CIA agent and all the stooges in parlaiment now are being controlled by either USA, UK or the zionists. I did not vote for either of the 3. Why must I bow the knee to foreign influencers? They can go and FT.
Agree with this 100%
I'm a pensioner and because I have two incomes SARS had the audacity to tax me at 45% of which I do not qualify. Luckily opted out however have to pay in every year. Must also say I make them wait until I get threatening e-mails. Municipalities are just as corrupt on meter readings as well as the property rates. No value can be shown for that money
I am in the same boat. And if you dont pay. They take it from your account
I’m in total agreement with you Mike.
Brilliant idea we have nothing to lose, we are losing already.
100% agree with you. Should have done so years ago.
Its the same the world over, the people that vote governments into power are not the ones that pay for that government. Its high time the middle class who largely are the backbone of the economy gain some real influence. Great initiative Mike, I admire your courage. 👏👏
100% Agree, Im sure OUTA can offer guidance on this topic.
Awesome I have been talking about this for years. I just don’t have the influence. Mike if you can get this going I will be right behind you. Well done for your initiative.
Agree i'm a pensioner and not dependend from the state 78 yrs old and must pay tax
We also urgently need independent self sufficient communities. Afriforum and the FMF is working on that concept please join and support our work.
Afriforum and FMF is part of the problem. Consists of a lot of joiners who deceives the Boere. Ernst Roets cant fool me any more. Strong on this 💩but in disguise. Shame on you for your deceit.😠😠😠😠😠
Well said ❤❤The majority people don't pay taxes in SA and get free electricity, rates schooling medical etc..and the right to run the country which was not earned❤❤
Another point Mike we have to first take control of our water supply, electrical supply and security.These people only know how to play dirty.
You are 100% correct. If rates are boycotted, cities and municipalities will cut off water and electricity. This would have to be done with legal protection.
Nice show Mike,great idea
I've been saying this for long.
They don't understand the term "civil servant ".
Furthermore, municipalities should not be politicized, they may be overseen by political parties but the staff and management should be made up of residents of that municipal zone because they are the only ones that care about service delivery for their zone.
I agree in principal, but it should be done in conjunction with (and the money deposited into an account controlled by), the likes of OUTA, i.e. within the law, so that the state is not within it's rights to cut the existing services (such as they are).
What about giving our tax money to Afriforum?
O fok suster, jy is vas aan die slaap!!! Satan presenting as an angel of light. There were 10 virgins of which 5 was asleep! Wake up. Your mind has been subverted!
That would be the plan
Mike you are spot on but only tax payers should be allowed to vote. It’s a different approach. Get tax payers to vote through a refferendum for this approach.
Lol everyone pays tax. not just those who earn a salary.
silly comment
Mike heres my thoughts reasoning by first principle .RSA challenge: 1to many births 2 to many with stunted growth 3to many not attending school 4 to many leaving school early 5to many children without fathers 6 to many teenage mothers ---- Taxpayers will be paying to prevent this becoming a serious train smash. 1/3 of the population is under18
Sadly; the lack of : Mutual Respect / The Family Unit / Taking Responsibility For One's Choice Of Decisions or Actions are the base reasons for where SA is today .... ! 🤔🥺
Easy solution, let only the tax payers vote and lets demand an itemized bill, before we pay any taxes ever again.
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT❤ PLEASE GET THAT GOING 1000 PERCENT SUPPORT
GOD BLESS SOUTH AFRICA ❤❤
100% agreement.!!!
I agree with you 10000% We have abused too long we need accountability from government. If enough people sign onto this we will get answers and cooperation very quickly. The Kya Sands action group have taken the COJ to court to get their attention and still tremendous push back on against trying to stop the burning of the dumps
Businesss are struggling so much. We are at a tipping point. Everyone is silent as each Business starts closing down again. But as each Business closes down silently like a quiet drowning no one notices. I am so tired of lack of sensibility and unfairness as my tax just goes while my business who employs 13 people is slowly drowning.
My small business used to have five full-time workers. Now there are only two left. My personal income has dropped by 30% over the last ten years and the amount I pay in income taxes is less than half what it used to be. I get audited by SARS every year because I pay less taxes every year and they want to know why. There's a tipping point being reached where the tax revenue the government can collect will fall off a cliff because nobody has jobs anymore.
@marcusmoonstein242 absolutely 💯 . I have become a 'when we' , I remember 'when we' used to do great months and not have to worry. I miss those days.
Mine already folded... 12 years down the fu**ing drain for NOTHING. And nothing to see for it. I kept it going with, me, myself and I - as much as I can.. yet.. now the CIPC is sending "deregistration"... with the knock-on that the bank suspended my overdraft... immediately dumping me into NO income, does not matter what money comes in.. I cannot even take R 12k a month for myself... yet...these fuc**ING PRICKS steal left right and centre, and commit BILLIONS in fraud... and SARS wants a TAX and Stock take??? F**K them now.
I feel your pain!
Agree with you. There are ways to do it lawfully. A group of residents did it in KZN. My biggest issue is the massive double digit electricity increases which paying residents can no longer afford (to cover the deficit in the budget). A lot of people will have to chose between electricity and food (including the middle class). There are already many many in this situation. Electricity is becoming more expensive than rent and bond payments. On top of that there are massive deterioration of the infrastructure in all areas incl no workable robots, potholes, non functioning street lights and the list goes on... due to greed, fraud and corruption, cadre deployment and unqualified appointments
It is time for the citizens to oppose the robbery of tax income. Let us start a movement that will with hold paying the taxes to government until those that looted the monies over the past 31 years have appeared in court and are sitting in cells after being convicted. Should they not want to go to jail they repay the money the stole!
Agree fully! Where do we start? Class action?
@@anettetruter8863 Love it if I thought that it is a manageable solution. Maybe we can run a campaign and ask all citizens to stop paying over money to the state?
Fully agree. Amongst other benefits of this, just maybe the Zondo Commission recommendations may be implemented and other such things which need to be forced into existence. Viva la revolution !
Excellent suggestion, the time has arrived where we the taxpayers tell the crooks enough is enough and that we will no longer stand for this shenanigans!
I am 💯 behind you Mike! Let’s do this……..Voorentoe as Gary Player says!Jhb especially needs to have the brakes put on.
Agree with your proposal. Let's start soonest
Brave words!
I will join immediately since I live in Bloemfontein
I as a tax payer, want an itimized bill, of where every 1 of my Rands go to, before I pay anything, ever again.
dream on.
Let’s have the experts come on the show and let’s see how viable the idea is.
That is the plan!
The whole woke West has gone bonkers.
I’m all for it, but we need action ASAP! We can’t keep living like this.
What’s the next step from here?
Sipho, like and share. We need numbers on board. They took note of us at the voting booth. Now we need to get people together that we can start a class action. LIKE AND SHARE FOR THE ALGORITHMS TO GO UP
@@anettetruter8863 thank you for the response! I’ve shared with a few people I know.
The recent case in KZN. The ruling was, you have to first declare a dispute, then follow that procedure.
Spot on!👍 We should get a 10 year tax reprieve for all the tax we paid and did not receive value for tax paid.
Problem is that the people in government aren't thinking about the voter who pays taxes as their electorate. We are just a cash cow. Their focus is not on providing services but on politicking to keep their poverty stricken supporters hopeful and angry and on grabbing any funds for themselves. The national gov also doles out a good part of each municipal budget too so the effect of a boycott may not be as positive as one would hope. But speaking out and entering the public discussion is vital. You're absolutely right that the middle class has been cowed into silence for the last 30 years
Fully agree and support!!!!!!!!!
Long overdue 💪
Well said Mike!
Excellent idea!
Decentralized banking👍
Sounds like a good idea! In Cape Town services locally are great! But I'd boycott National any day
Willem Petzer started the taxpayers union of South Africa. We should all join that union.
Ecellent analysis,
Absolutely.
100% agree
Agreed
I remember the Gravy train that's how it started.
Absolutely
Support you 100%
Biggest problem is BEE and Affirmative action supported by the DA that most citizens voted for. You deserve the government you voted for.
Tax payers deserve more services in fact we deserve service full stop. I agree 👍 💯 this is not fair. We can all stand together. Yes, south africans lets do this. We have millions of tax payers of all races
I agree, it should include the obscene taxes on fuel
The only problem is that your company deducts your taxes from your salary and pays it to the Government. So how do you overcome this problem?
@wilmahechter266 as Mike said we have to start with local, that rates. After that you can start going higher
🙌Great idea, now that I am retired Ineed to know where my tax rands goes and what is being done with it👌
Stop letting the majority, non tax paying citizens vote!!! Or let them vote and let stop paying taxes. This is the one and only downfall of SA. The tax payers will never have Zuma's MK be a real thing or Cyril be president, EVER!
How do we get started ? Map that out for us...
We are trying to find the way.
Starting at local level is the way to go, because getting corporate SA to turn against the government and withhold PAYE is not going to happen. However, unless you are in an off-grid situation, the municipality has you by the short and curlies, they just turn off your water (unless the SAHRC can be convinced into doing something good for a change).
100% agreed
Becareful you don't end up in prison for the suggestion
The problem is that the courts are against such action. The rate payers in Brits North West Province tried a tax boycott against the council and the court ruled against that. Despite the fact that the council destroys services and are part of corrupt contracts.
This is the biggest obstacle, but lets see what we can do.
We’ve shown we can stand together as a nation when we refuse to pay e-tolls. Any hard-working citizen who sees their tax money go to waste the way we have been, would be in favor of tax revolt. Just tell us how.
If we pay for services then we deserve to receive the services! If people can afford to pay for services and don't pay, then those people mustn't expect to receive the services others pay for!!
Agree fully. Interesting that Sars Kiesvetter appears DAILY on Google threatening the taxpayers but NOTHING happens to the ones Zondo named. Who says paying 42% tax is the correct %?
Add to that, that it is the South African way to give amnesty to people who are bold enough not to pay.
Good idea but your employer has to agree to with hold on your behalf.
Yes it depends on how you look at it
I agree 100%.
I agree, but it must be concerted- otherwise tall poppies are made an example of. Also, the CORPORATES must buy-in as they effectively pay the majority of income tax on behalf of their employees.
Where do we start. Please give us advice. Step 1. I am happy to start tomorrow, what about the interest they will charge us.
I fully agree with your sentiments
Totally
YES
I fully agree with you Mike, at this point we just have to accept the CIRCUS, not on, thx Mike😊
This idea to with hold tax was discussed a few years back already. It is not that easy to do, too much legal implications. To mention one, if you want to sell your house, the transactions will not go through because the rates were not paid etc
Rats will leave if they dont get paid
This must happen but emigration may have to max out a bit more. The middle class that exists is too divided by people with one eye on the out door, not wanting to compromise their prospects in pastures new where fairytales still exist about the reality of what they are trying to flee. But still, I am all for going for it now. Nuff z'nuff
There should also be a revolt against the price of food.
Quite agree, just need the right vehicle to do this. People are fearfull of losing their properties if they with hold their taxes though.
Rates are not the big taxes. How do we boycot Income Tax?
We have to pay PAYE every month then it takes SARS years to refund your claims.
Never underestimate what rates witholding can impact. LIKE AND SHARE for the algorithyms that more people can see.
Yes.....
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.....
Absofuckinlutely!!!!!
Is "death tax" really necessary 🤔?
I totally agree with you Mike, have been saying this for years , but we all have to stand together in order to make this work. before the elections I tried to encourage everyone to vote DA if the DA had got more seats. we would have been in so much more powerful position now in this coalition. instead they voted for all these stupid non productive parties. The biggest problem is getting people to stand together. I am all for it we need to stop this corruption and theft of our most valuable resources. but who is going to take the risk ...
The brave cheryl. If you regard DA as the solution, youll very soon find out who they really are. Ill rather take EFF than DAngerous NWO stooges.
totally agree
Great to see the ANC making a coalition …. Let’s hope the corruption is stemmed and growth and jobs will follow. We are an amazing Country and still have a strongish middle class driving the economy.
Looking at the rates and taxes I have to agree. It's so detached from reality or sanity that it stops investment and consequently private sector job creation.
In a normal country a person with a beautiful house a business with many employees is admired. In South Africa you feel bad for the poor guy. Even worse if he has a factory or office building.
Unfortunately, the tax revolt has started a long time ago. Just how many cash deals under the table are done, how many VAT refunds are falsified.? We have criminalised our society because of the very fact you articulate so well - not getting bang for our tax buck.
Personal income tax has to be reduced by the annual national irregular and wasteful expenditure including the bloated govt cost premium, benchmark against similar economies.
I fully agree with you but big companys should start this also although in the minority the anc still have the best posts in govt! Ramas lockdown on corruption is also bullshit because how can you get rid of teachers which is vital to the country of not supposidly not having money to pay them but yet you have money for escom, saa and post office and all their other friends??
What about their salaries? Cyril gets R386 000 per month and john get R247 000 per month TAX FREE plus sustenance and travelling plus communication benefits. Google their salary bill. That is why they want to bully us with courts
Yes. I am all for a tax revolt. Lets do this!
Mike, the inference at 17:44 min is that those who are earning a salary (income taxes) are the only ones paying taxes and subsidizing those who are unemployed. This is a flawed argument.
Income Tax is one of the many avenues through which the commissioner receives funds.
everyone pays tax, in some sort of form
I don't buy the "everyone pays taxes in some form argument". This is true in the case of VAT and fuel levies, but many billions of rands raised in direct taxes (PAYE and rates) are abused without any repercussion.
The problem with this idea is it has to be well organised and done by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, in a coordinated and formal way.
It would require everyone to be on the same page, to all have the same or similar agenda and for everyone to agree on the boxes that need to be ticked before they agree to start paying taxes again.
It’s difficult to see the above actually happening.
I have been saying this since the Zuma years. Everyone thought I was crazy back then.