Tone Chasing Nirvana WITHOUT 'Correct' Gear
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2024
- You don't need an exact copy of Kurt Cobain's rig to achieve a Nirvana style sound - here's how I got there using the equipment I already have.
Let's chase the tone of Nirvana's hit song, as it was reproduced in: • Unapologetic Distortio...
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You don't need an exact copy of Kurt Cobain's rig to achieve a Nirvana style sound - here's how I got there using the equipment I already have.
Let's chase the tone of Nirvana's hit song, as it was reproduced in: ua-cam.com/video/_EKSgj1XWTk/v-deo.html
BUY Boss DS-1 & Other Gear used in this video: thmn.to/thocf/sht95efu8l
More details on how Science of Loud implements product promotion - www.csguitars.co.uk/disclosure
#nirvana #smellsliketeenspirit #bossds1
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Support on Patreon: www.patreon.com/csguitars
Join Science of Loud Discord - discord.gg/csguitars
Buy Science of Loud Merchandise - www.csguitars.co.uk/store
Website - www.csguitars.co.uk
Contact - colin@csguitars.co.uk
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If someone hasn’t already commented already, let me say, love the rebrand! Looking forward to future content.
Tone Chasing: At The Gates for next video please
I like that idea!
Sounds great, welcome back and the new channel name is awesome
Glad you're back. The quality of your new content is excellent.
The way the video broke down the three parts was excellent. It really made clear how the song is put together.
Gosh Colin, the clean tone on the intro is SPOT ON, man!
Been a fan of the channel since before I even got my first guitar and amp. You helped me figure out what I wanted and you've taught me so much over the years. It's been great to see your channel evolve over that time and I'm absolutely stoked for all your future content!
I missed your videos so much. Glad you are back and nice rebrand🎉
Colin, so glad you are back. The trickle of content has been nice to see. As I always say, a trickle is better than no trickle. Hope all is well and you are good and refreshed. Love seeing the SoL back in action!
Good to see you back, Colin. I always look forward to your videos. Hope you took care of the personal things you needed to.
I've missed you, you glorious bastard!
Two fantastic pieces of content in a row.
I know Butch layered at least 4 tracks for "Drain You" so I wouldn't be surprised if that was also done on Teen Spirit.
Loved that! Good to see you back, Colin!
Loving the rebrand!!
This was so great! I loved how you went into how you layered everything, as well as the post production you did to wrangle the tone in, as may have been done mixing the record. One thing I also wanted to know was what speaker/cabinet/microphone you used? Or are you using a loadbox/IR situation?
Great stuff; thank you so much for this. Getting stuff to work *in a mix* with other instruments is such an important thing to learn! This is really going to save some people a lot of time and head-scratching over how to get their songs sounding "right". I really hope that you get the chance to do similar breakdowns for future vids!
Oh shit! I thought the Nirvana section in the DS-1 was all we got, but nope there's more! 🤘
Awesome vid & breakdown. 👍👍
Really love this breakdown, mate. Also, great new opening video. Well done.
Good to see you back. Hope you've gotten rest!
Lovely to have you back Colin! Can we still look forward to guitar maintenance and Axe From The Grave style videos?
Interesting choice to pair the $100 bass with the $3k guitar.
Both sounded great and the mix was excellent.
Great vid!
Price should never deter anyone from using the gear that works best.
I use whatever is correct for the situation.
Looks like a p-Bass, sounds like a P-bass, P-bass is what is required for this song. Conditions are perfect and all is well.
On the rarenirvana YT channel, they released a behind the scenes recording of when nirvana was playing on SNL. It's an older video, so resolution is super low, but it's worth a watch. It definitely looks like a DS1 Kurt was using, but it was a Boss for sure.
Man the rebrand is amazing!
In the next tone chasing vid talk a little about the speakers or IRs used!
Welcome Back, Colin!
New branding looks mint!
Thanks for sharing.
Love the monster stomp!
Just by the way cobain played power chords by barring his third finger but not completely, so that would help with the sound a ton too
That was sssssssiiick!!!
Yayyyy he’s back!
I've done a cover of this too. I used my normal "nice" guitar sound on one side, and HP on an OCD with the gain and level really high for the rougher sounding guitar. I used an ancient Arion Stereo Flanger (in mono) for the solo. I like your re-brand and its nice to see you back, hope you're doing OK. Want to drive yourself insane? Try some In Utero tones.
I'm not even a rocker but I found this a very interesting and very well produced video! ❤
I'm still looking for my ideal bass guitar overdrive that saturates progressively and then adds intensity just in the moments when I dig in. Sadly every pedal I've tried jumps from clean to clipping!
Frustratingly the closest equivalent I've found is the drive control on the humble Yamaha Reface CP keyboard which really works well with the electric piano sounds by adding a bark exactly when I ask for it. I'm looking for that kind of response in a pedal. Is this something I should be using the side-chain on my amp (Trace Elliot) with maybe a compressor into overdrive then into EQ to cut the harshness?
If anything you managed to get it nastier and more up-front than the original. I like it!
Its hard to sound bad with a tone king 🤘🏽
That amp was a gamechanger for me.
Suddenly a LOT of drive pedals I thought weren't very good turned out to be fantastic - I'd just been running them through amps that didn't play nicely with them.
@@ScienceofLoud the synergy of gear can be more important than its individual performance . Mix and match your way to sonic superiority🤘🏽
A while back my Roland JC converted me to a solid state guy. The DS-1 is more like a strange overdrive than a distortion with that amp, but the DS-2 works great with it. So to all the solid state nerds, the DS-2 is Nirvana in a box for you.
Solid state sucks so bad. I like tubes for cleans too
You mentioned using the NS-1X here. I know you did a video on that and a while back you did the TC Electronic Sentry. Would you recommend the NS-1X over the Sentry?
Ooh, what is that Tele with P90s … ?! 🤔
A vintage analog chorus, and this would be 👌🏼
Sounds great! What was your cab/mic or IR setup?
Cool
I was searching around the internet looking for some insight into something "I am afraid to ask'. I know in early amps, it was common to get a bigger sound by bridging both channels with the input jacks. Is this just the same a plugging into two amps and getting more power or is it altering the sound in some way and creating more distortion. I have a Valvetech VAC 25 that has a foot switch that said it is like bridging the channels, but it delivers much more distortion more like the output of once channel into the input of the second. I am not sure what is going on here. Thanks so much for your channel. Eric
I’ve been chasing my chemical romance tone for a while 😥 and would love a rob zombies tone to
Excellent breakdown except for one BIG oversight; the settings used on the pedals/amps!
Not an oversight, I simply don't want to encourage a 'tone by numbers' approach is flawed on a fundamental level.
I'd rather promote the idea of using your ears and becoming familiar with dialling in your equipment based on what you are hearing - which is the correct approach.
@@ScienceofLoud Fair enough, and agreed as I do use my ears to adjust to taste, but seeing someone else's settings is a starting point in most cases, since depending on what gear everyone uses, they have a reference point and then adjust to suit their rig, instead of starting from zero which is also valid but sometimes frustrating. I know I certainly don't expect your settings to be the be all and end all but seeing how different people achieve a similar tone especially in the age of UA-cam is just part of the fun in chasing certain tones. Love the channel and the content!
I bought a DS-1 in the early 1980s, annoyingly I hated it and swapped it out a week later for an OD-1 which I used for years and still have.
TATA: what does it mean "panned out" double tracked
Two tracks were recorded. In the DAW one panned all the way to the left, and one all the way to the right
One of the most important things you can learn about guitar (or bass) tone is that you do not need to copy the tone of your favorite artists, not even when you are covering their songs. You do not need a pedalboard that will allow you to emulate the sounds of the original artists on 1000 different songs. You only need one good tone-one good guitar, one good amp, and one good drive pedal is all you really need. The audience can't tell the difference, and wouldn't care even if they could. Stop being a slave to your gear, and just f-in play.
Ssshhhhh......don't tell anyone or they might have some fun😉🎸🤘🏼🎸
I can hear that each individual guitar is clearly stereo. Is this due to 2 mics, or some kind of stereo widener?
2:36 - of course, all the guitar parts were double tracked and panned out.
@@ScienceofLoud Makes sense! Sounds great!
Butbut where'd the verse go?!
What about the drums? 🤔
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I know you’re not shooting for the exact tone and I hate to be that guy, but it’s all about the speakers he used (rola green backs for the dirty tones and silver bells for the cleans), with all the IR’s out there you could have got so much closer, especially since you were using amp sims to get to where you got (vox 30 for cleans, Mesa studio pre and bassman for dirty). Also for anyone reading this, don’t play your power chords with 3 fingers, use two and bar them if you want to play it like Kurt, it’s a huge difference.
Have you ever considered that Colin does this on purpose, so the video doesn't get taken down?🎸🤘🏼🎸
@@gearViewmirror That’s not how it works, different bands take different action, nirvana doesn’t take videos down. So no, I just think he wasn’t aware of the things I pointed out.
Ya strings look a bit old & DIRTY on the 'Tele' Colin! \m/
Oh crap....everyone hide, the string police are out....😳
@@gearViewmirror Aye, ye bet ye laddie! ;o)
That's tone filth, it just doesn't sound the same without it.
@@ScienceofLoud Aye, ye cannae polish a turd!
So from what I can tell, you got pretty close, but there’s s few things you got wrong here.
1. The bass on the original is clean.
2. The clean guitar was an overdub, so the actual left guitar was a way more similar sound to the right guitar.
3. The tone on the album was more scooped in the low mids.
Cool. Now do Ramones.
Amateur mistake there Colin. You used RH tone. won't sound authentic unless your tone is LH.
nice job though. Good to see you back.
I hate this song but I loved it when you did it Colin 🥰
i refuse to believe people actually like this song, regardless, welcome back colin
This song was a wake up call to the music industry that had become mired in the extravagant power ballads, inane guitar widdling, and saxophone solos of the 80s.
It was rebellious cry for a frustrated youth looking to carve their own identity in a culture that offered no place for them, like the 70s punk movement was 2 decades before. It's very much a result of the politics and social issues of its time, so it resonates with people who were there to experience that.
I know all of these once radical movements look tame and outdated in hindsight, but to be a young person in the 90s - this was an identity! A very loud 'fuck you' to conformity and the trends of the generation before. I was slightly too young to truly appreciate its impact when it released, and I've never been a fan of Nirvana, but I've come to really enjoy and appreciate the impact of Smells Like Teen Spirit specifically. It's has a power and impact that I feel still resonates, despite the generational landscape shifting away from the problems of the 90s.
An anthem in every sense, and I hope there continue to be these songs for people - that redefine music and culture - that will become overplayed and difficult to understand for the people who come across them later, because it wasn't a message for them - it was a call to arms to change the world of the past, and if it did its job right, shouldn't have the same impact to kids born into that changed future.
@@ScienceofLoud Grunge was the last time that rock made any significant step forward IMO. Soon after, rock finally stopped looking forwards and became too nostalgic for me to the point where I lost interest in being in bands. Capital Radio used to have a rock show "Music your mother wouldn't like" but now rock has become "Music your grandmother does the ironing to" - sadly including grunge. I look forward to some youngsters coming up with innovative guitar music that upsets their parents. Triple bonus points if the comments section on Rick Beato's channel starts dumping on them! 😂
@@ScienceofLoud honestly fair enough, my main issue with the song (apart from people playing it incorrectly) is just how overplayed it's been though, it ruins any song
Were you not alive during the 90’s? People loved this song. Nirvana were as huge as Metallica and Guns N Roses!
@@standard_tuning ..were? were you not alive during the 2020s? theyre still just as popular
These fake hand-held sways are actually more annoying than just a still camera. It looks insanely uncanny valley and takes me out of the watching experience. Please no more.
That really sucks for you, because I'm going to keep doing it.
That guitar 1 is SO GOOD!