Great video and insight. I agree with your statement about the cnc rough cutting being equivalent to a hand tool. Same rough start requiring the fine finish work. Though I did watch a video last night of a Luthier making a violin with hand tools including a hand crank drill. But I had to wonder why he wasn't doing it by candle light instead of under a fluorescent light. :)
Fantastic work! I’m in the process of purchasing a CNC for guitar making myself. I can’t wait to dive right in and start creating. And bonus points for the Spaceballs reference at the end!
This evening I tried your idea with the tape and glue. It works really well an particularly well on thin plastic which can be difficult to keep flat. Thanks for a great idea
They are all straight two flute bits, 1/2" x 3, 1/4" x1, and the ball nose is 3/4", I think the truss rod bit is the only odd one it's a .22" from stewMac made specifically for hot rods truss rods.
Nice! Again one more question about the aligning and zeroing (i know, one of the most asked...) Do you work also with the middleline with necks? Where do you zero them? Sometimes you loose both ends of the workpiece (neck and pocket). Or is loosing the workpiece zero the last step in your process? (hope you know, what i mean)
Good question, not all that easy to answer but good. You might have seen the MDF scrap piece on the bed. I attach a piece of scrap and then mill the edge so it is on access with the machine. When I prepare my stock, I join one edge, that edge, and the break line for the scarf joint, which becomes the nut are the edges that I index form for all three setups. It's a little tricky to get the CAM set up this way. You manipulate the origin on each CAM setup in three different ways but all from the same point.
@@TwoCherriesIns you mean @4:06? or 4:26 on the right side? The parallel one. I can see one of the zeroing @4:42, right? Thanks... its one of the hardest CAMs for me. 2sided neck milling... but, i will get there ;)
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Você teria um vídeo mostrando como fazer o desenho e gerar os gcodes? Estou querendo fazer fazer um violão com braço pra corda de aço
I have a lot of videos about that, but I don't make tutorials
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@@TwoCherriesIns I understand, but here in Brazil there is nothing about this. I even thought about doing it like this, cutting at the correct angle and using CNC to make both sides very flat, then making the separate parts. I make the part that will go to the pegs, then the arm, then I make the glue, leaving a kind of guide so that it is well aligned. Since this CNC area is not my area, I will try to do it and if it works, I will make a video and post it on the channel. Thank you for answering.
What type of CNC machine are you using? Looks really capable. I am looking to purchase a CNC machine, so far your videos have shown the most capable machine I've seen cutting wood with great precision.
It's the CNC router parts now Avid CNC CRP2448, check out my new CNC build playlist for a lot more info ua-cam.com/play/PLtoC5TIxpwGWaUB-oaUARnTcgnhmrgpcU.html
@@jorgelima7899 the fusion 360 file is available on my Patreon, I will be updating it and including a full bill of materials when the machine is complete.
I use a StewMac truss rod bit that is .225"; it gives me a little clearance for cutting a .25" slot without cutting at full tool engagement the entire time. I have been using this bit for 7-8 years; I don't even want to think about how many truss rod slots I have cut with it. www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/routers-and-bits/router-bit-for-hot-rod-truss-rods.html
Lol, I'm not sure if you know this, but tree's are not square. Sure I could resaw the blank, and then I would have a strip of wood that's not the size I need for anything. Is that your advice?
Very very enjoyable and informative videos on what is undoubtedly the hardest part of creating a guitar on a CNC. My personal record, so far, is three wrecked neck blanks in one day. Glad to hear you've wrecked dozens!
Thanks, I continue to ruin them, however, not at the pace or quantity in the past. I continue to learn and develop this process. I hope it is both entertaining and informative. Thanks for watching!
CNC is not handmade. These two are different animals entirely. You cut, shape, and form with absolute precision while fools like me cut with basic power tools and shape and form and sand by hand with no computer whatsoever. Be glad that you have the equipment that you own. I on the other hand am too stupid to understand all these things and how they work together and make it my own! I wish I could CNC all my stuff and all I had to do was sand in lightly by hand. I don't have that luxury. Thank you for sharing this with us. It only stands as proof that I need to at least use a duplicating carver over cutting out by hand and routing with simple templates. At least I could have some sort of accuracy without guesswork then!
I was a "Hand" builder for many years, and now that I use the CNC to increase my accuracy and precision, and if you know your metrology, you will understand that this accuracy and precision can not be achieved with hand tools, and for statements like this, I get a lot of flack, unfortunately, many folks that believe they can achieve the accuracy of the CNC by hand have some fundamental flaws in there understanding of metrology. I have heard it said that they are entirely different methods, and I can't disagree more. Nothing comes off the CNC that doesn't require significant "Hand" work, and my skills and abilities have only improved with each iteration, the assumption that these parts only need a little hand sanding is entirely false. My abilities on the CNC are well guided by my years of hand-making; without these skills, my success rate and the learning curve would be dramatically less. Only the folks that take the time to learn both methods find out how truly related they are.
@@TwoCherriesIns You're not completely wrong but when I say that these are two different animals I mean that each has their advantages and disadvantages. I've CNCd stuff but not guitar parts. You have to be really good with computer programming to make parts with absolute precision but the home grown version of these CNC programs leave a lot to be desired from what I've heard from other luthiers. However that may be it takes far longer for me to make anything by hand with any degree of accuracy! I can do it but it takes so long and so very much working to do. CNC allows for perfect shaping but there is some hand work that needs to be done but that's usually a little hand sanding. There are some things you can do with CNC and some that you can't and some things that you can do by hand and others you cannot. Theirs is a marriage of the two that makes perfect sense. Once again, thank you for sharing this with us - it is indeed inspiring to see it.
His narration is pure poetry! 2:35
Thank you,
Great video and insight. I agree with your statement about the cnc rough cutting being equivalent to a hand tool. Same rough start requiring the fine finish work. Though I did watch a video last night of a Luthier making a violin with hand tools including a hand crank drill. But I had to wonder why he wasn't doing it by candle light instead of under a fluorescent light. :)
Well said!
Second that on machines - I also see a table saw as a welcome alternative to taking out my rip and crosscut saws :D
I don't use a table saw, not that it wouldn't be useful.
Very nice.....I like someone who takes pride in their work and willing to show on video how you do it.
Thanks
How he does it??? No a machine did it.
Fantastic work! I’m in the process of purchasing a CNC for guitar making myself. I can’t wait to dive right in and start creating. And bonus points for the Spaceballs reference at the end!
I'm glad someone picked up on that one.
Beautyfull process
Thank you
Well considered. Fun to watch. Beautiful work. Thank you so much for sharing your art with us.
You are very welcome!
Excellent video thanks. Can you tell me what tape and glue you use for mounting please?
It's just plain masking tape, I prefer starbond CA glue, there is a discount code and link in the description of my recent videos.
I have now got the glue. Is the 3M tape paper or is it the plastic type masking tape please? Thanks
@@2ndlecky30 just the inexpensive masking tape from the big box stores
This evening I tried your idea with the tape and glue. It works really well an particularly well on thin plastic which can be difficult to keep flat. Thanks for a great idea
@@2ndlecky30
It is a particularly good method for difficult materials to clamp; I think most folks don't understand how well this holds.
Hi, wonderful work. I am just getting into cnc guitar building. Could you recommend some bits? What did you use in this video?
I don't use anything special for bits; they are almost all standard router bits.
@@TwoCherriesIns can you tell
Me what you used in this video?
They are all straight two flute bits, 1/2" x 3, 1/4" x1, and the ball nose is 3/4", I think the truss rod bit is the only odd one it's a .22" from stewMac made specifically for hot rods truss rods.
Gracias. Me sentí totalmente identificado en la experiencia de esforzarse por diseñar y maquinar estos proyectos. Mucha empatía!
Thank you 😊
great job!
Thanks
You word good on this one. Make feel good about way I do things. ugg ugg. grunt grunt.
Thanks
awsome stuff thanks for shareing
You are welcome. Thanks for watching
it would be cool if somebody would cnc gs-mini necks at 1.8 or 1.75
Even with the CNC, there is so much work in making a neck, I have no Idea how anyone makes any money doing it.
HI: Can you list were you got your cnc bits used in the vedio?
They are all inexpensive router bits from ebay.
Very nice sir
Thanks
Nice! Again one more question about the aligning and zeroing (i know, one of the most asked...)
Do you work also with the middleline with necks? Where do you zero them?
Sometimes you loose both ends of the workpiece (neck and pocket). Or is loosing the workpiece zero the last step in your process?
(hope you know, what i mean)
Good question, not all that easy to answer but good. You might have seen the MDF scrap piece on the bed. I attach a piece of scrap and then mill the edge so it is on access with the machine. When I prepare my stock, I join one edge, that edge, and the break line for the scarf joint, which becomes the nut are the edges that I index form for all three setups. It's a little tricky to get the CAM set up this way. You manipulate the origin on each CAM setup in three different ways but all from the same point.
@@TwoCherriesIns you mean @4:06? or 4:26 on the right side? The parallel one. I can see one of the zeroing @4:42, right? Thanks... its one of the hardest CAMs for me. 2sided neck milling... but, i will get there ;)
Você teria um vídeo mostrando como fazer o desenho e gerar os gcodes?
Estou querendo fazer fazer um violão com braço pra corda de aço
I have a lot of videos about that, but I don't make tutorials
@@TwoCherriesIns I understand, but here in Brazil there is nothing about this. I even thought about doing it like this, cutting at the correct angle and using CNC to make both sides very flat, then making the separate parts. I make the part that will go to the pegs, then the arm, then I make the glue, leaving a kind of guide so that it is well aligned. Since this CNC area is not my area, I will try to do it and if it works, I will make a video and post it on the channel.
Thank you for answering.
what is the ball nose bit your using
3/4" ball nose, from the local big box store.
What type of CNC machine are you using? Looks really capable. I am looking to purchase a CNC machine, so far your videos have shown the most capable machine I've seen cutting wood with great precision.
It's the CNC router parts now Avid CNC CRP2448, check out my new CNC build playlist for a lot more info ua-cam.com/play/PLtoC5TIxpwGWaUB-oaUARnTcgnhmrgpcU.html
@@TwoCherriesIns thanks
Do you have available the CNC build plan and bill of materials, in your Patreon perhaps?
@@jorgelima7899 the fusion 360 file is available on my Patreon, I will be updating it and including a full bill of materials when the machine is complete.
awesome, thanks a lot
What size bit do you use for truss rod?
I use a StewMac truss rod bit that is .225"; it gives me a little clearance for cutting a .25" slot without cutting at full tool engagement the entire time. I have been using this bit for 7-8 years; I don't even want to think about how many truss rod slots I have cut with it.
www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/types-of-tools/routers-and-bits/router-bit-for-hot-rod-truss-rods.html
Добрый день. Как называется и выглядит полукруглая фреза? С уважением Александр.
I don't think I ever seen this much waist material. You could build two guitars with your blanks. 🙂
Lol, I'm not sure if you know this, but tree's are not square. Sure I could resaw the blank, and then I would have a strip of wood that's not the size I need for anything. Is that your advice?
Very very enjoyable and informative videos on what is undoubtedly the hardest part of creating a guitar on a CNC. My personal record, so far, is three wrecked neck blanks in one day. Glad to hear you've wrecked dozens!
Thanks, I continue to ruin them, however, not at the pace or quantity in the past. I continue to learn and develop this process. I hope it is both entertaining and informative. Thanks for watching!
What happened to jhonny 5 alien head Armstrong from yesterday?
CNC is not handmade. These two are different animals entirely. You cut, shape, and form with absolute precision while fools like me cut with basic power tools and shape and form and sand by hand with no computer whatsoever. Be glad that you have the equipment that you own. I on the other hand am too stupid to understand all these things and how they work together and make it my own! I wish I could CNC all my stuff and all I had to do was sand in lightly by hand. I don't have that luxury. Thank you for sharing this with us. It only stands as proof that I need to at least use a duplicating carver over cutting out by hand and routing with simple templates. At least I could have some sort of accuracy without guesswork then!
I was a "Hand" builder for many years, and now that I use the CNC to increase my accuracy and precision, and if you know your metrology, you will understand that this accuracy and precision can not be achieved with hand tools, and for statements like this, I get a lot of flack, unfortunately, many folks that believe they can achieve the accuracy of the CNC by hand have some fundamental flaws in there understanding of metrology. I have heard it said that they are entirely different methods, and I can't disagree more. Nothing comes off the CNC that doesn't require significant "Hand" work, and my skills and abilities have only improved with each iteration, the assumption that these parts only need a little hand sanding is entirely false.
My abilities on the CNC are well guided by my years of hand-making; without these skills, my success rate and the learning curve would be dramatically less. Only the folks that take the time to learn both methods find out how truly related they are.
@@TwoCherriesIns You're not completely wrong but when I say that these are two different animals I mean that each has their advantages and disadvantages. I've CNCd stuff but not guitar parts. You have to be really good with computer programming to make parts with absolute precision but the home grown version of these CNC programs leave a lot to be desired from what I've heard from other luthiers. However that may be it takes far longer for me to make anything by hand with any degree of accuracy! I can do it but it takes so long and so very much working to do. CNC allows for perfect shaping but there is some hand work that needs to be done but that's usually a little hand sanding. There are some things you can do with CNC and some that you can't and some things that you can do by hand and others you cannot. Theirs is a marriage of the two that makes perfect sense. Once again, thank you for sharing this with us - it is indeed inspiring to see it.