Tragic Death of Secretariat's Last-Born Grandson

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  • @Squawk24
    @Squawk24 7 років тому +12

    WTF with that GIANT guy working this colt? The rider is way too big to be on that horse.

  • @daphnew1591
    @daphnew1591 7 років тому +133

    A woman from Missouri saved one of Secratariets grandsons from going to slaughter. Its terrible what some people will do for money.This was about 3 years ago, it was in the paper. Micheline Kribs,Rolla,MO

    • @Lilylu_NYC
      @Lilylu_NYC 4 роки тому +7

      He's not the only one! I'm not about to look up their names but there's at least two more. I don't understand why people are shocked. We saved an AP Indy foal 2 years ago at auction for $400. The meat market didn't want her because she was emaciated and had no value. No, we didn't take her because she was his foal we found out when we researched her lip tattoo. This is nothing new. Pedigree never matters at auction. A dime a dozen.

    • @dfreeman8240
      @dfreeman8240 3 роки тому +5

      I have a horse saved from the kill pen emanciated, a mare descendant of Secretariat on top and bottom meaning sire and Dam both were Secretariat descendants. Seattle Slew's son, Slew of Gold and Secretariat's General Assemnbly his Sire. Other greats coming out of Secretatiat's daughter known as the Queen, named Terlingua and Storm bird out of the great Canadian legend Notthern Dancer foalefd the handsome successful at racing and as a sire Storm cat. Other legends like Buckpasser, Gallant Man, Native Dancer, Poker and War Admiral sired by the great Man O War and more. There are broodmares who are recognized on the track and as influences of fantastic traits desired in the breed awarded Dam of the year, hall of fame inductees. A fantastic pedigree. I paid 165.00 pound on the hoof not knowing her history or breed for that matter. It was when she started transforming, gaining weight, I started recognizing her lines as a thoroughbred. I had a thought to check her lip but forgot about it until a few weeks ago admiring her as a thoroughbred, I flipped her lip up. There it was! I got a friend to hold her lip while I snapped some pics. It took another try in sunlight to see the first tattoo. A letter and 3 numbers were clear the others were too faded. The partial tatoo and a detailed description came back with her breeders name, her name, birthday. The jockey club matched her tight ti the placement of a cowlick and her white sock describing it higher n the back than the front. I ran the free 5 way pedigree and was amazed. Sad how she ended up I such shape. She's 14 years old. I know right now 2 are at Temn Ship Pen in Cleveland, TN. Time is running out but haven't been able to get anyone to purchase them for 900. Each. They lay them over 2 weeks on an inflated price
      What don't sale goes to slaughter. They will not reduce the price and set a precedent. I have no more room per zoning restrictions . I have another Quarter pony also a kill pen horse. Sad. Theses magnificent animals end up in tragedy.

    • @samueld9894
      @samueld9894 3 роки тому +1

      D Freeman o

    • @sueormsby4797
      @sueormsby4797 3 роки тому +10

      I saw a great great granddaughter in a kill pen in pa a couple months ago. Absolutely heartbreaking that a horse of this lineage could end up in such an awful place

    • @vintage.chestnut3669
      @vintage.chestnut3669 3 роки тому +7

      PETA saved one of secrerteriats grandson, he was a dappled grey.
      But murdered him along with the 2,000 other animals.

  • @gaylesallee9635
    @gaylesallee9635 2 роки тому +12

    What a beautiful beautiful horse looked so much like big Red. His color the way he held his head and even the way he ran.
    so sorry for your losses. You had a Grand Dad and a Grand horse.

  • @Postinaway
    @Postinaway 7 років тому +30

    Dear Shirley, heartfelt condolences on the loss of your beautiful boy. He looked so much like his grandpa! I know they are romping playing together, with your Dad close by. God bless.

  • @jackiestephen-rogers8425
    @jackiestephen-rogers8425 6 років тому +25

    RESPECT...this trainer was "old school". I know, as I am too. Back in the day a trainer really trained his horses. Not an assistant trainer, with 50 more horses just waiting in line to train. The kind of trainer this man was, says it all. Beautiful grandson of my beloved Secretariat ... the best of the best. Two souls now united forever. R.I.P. This is a perfect example of young trainers starting 2 yr olds whose knees are not yet closed, not giving them time to come to it on their own, always rushing. The original Sport of Kings, has become just that. Not too many trainers left that are there for the dream of finding that 1 good horse with a passion for the sport. Now people with lots of money, great tax write-off.

  • @kimberlywoodward5051
    @kimberlywoodward5051 7 років тому +30

    secretariat had always been my favorite horse even though I have never been into racing. I came across a horse about 4 yrs ago in terrible condition. he was being loaded on a truck heading to slaughter. he and I fell in love with each other that moment. When i got him home and had him checked by my vet I looked up his tattoo # and found he was a gggrandson of Big Red! Chubasco as I call him is amazing! There's several descendant of Secretariat around.
    .

    • @jmr7736
      @jmr7736 4 роки тому +11

      Kimberly Woodward you’re amazing!!!!! Thank you for saving him !!!

  • @tracygraham8052
    @tracygraham8052 2 роки тому +3

    My bestie owned an off spring. And among all the horse, this horse was beautiful beyond words. And only about 5 or so years ago did the decision to put him to sleep (similar hoof issue) and cry? Unreal tears for the gentle giant of the stable here.

  • @robertvolk4028
    @robertvolk4028 2 роки тому +2

    Never got to see Secretariat race I was 4 years old win he won the Triple Crown Thank you all who rescue these horses from auctions and kill buyers

  • @juliehertz8768
    @juliehertz8768 7 років тому +68

    May you both RIP.He had his granddaddys flashy copper coat,SLEEP WELL LITTLE PRINCE

    • @tracydavis8982
      @tracydavis8982 5 років тому +5

      julie hertz, yes, he did have his Granddaddy's, Secretariat, Beautiful Coloring!!!😍 Chip off the old block!!!!🤗

    • @jophoenix3919
      @jophoenix3919 4 роки тому +2

      Penny made a lot of money including the film yet this is what happen to line that all owed him so much more I too am crying

    • @mariabykofsky4502
      @mariabykofsky4502 4 роки тому +2

      Jo Phoinix, Penny passed away two years ago at the age of 95 years.
      What in the world do you think she could have done?

  • @monicaewers2200
    @monicaewers2200 7 років тому +6

    It's looks like they tried too hard with this colt just due to the lineage with Secretariat. His confirmation looks poor. RIP poor little colt. I'm sorry for what you went through...run free...

    • @gwynnethmay660
      @gwynnethmay660 3 роки тому

      I agree. Either that jockey was large or the colt, small. He didn't have near the scope of his father.

  • @cherrydowns7745
    @cherrydowns7745 Рік тому +3

    Why did they have to put him down? I saw one of Secretariat's grandson in a boarding stall in KY. He was a big horse and was a dark roan. He was old and may have died soon after. The tag on his door just said Secretariate's grandson. Secretariat was my all time favorite horse. I watched live as he won the Triple Crown in 1973. I bought a full blooded Arabian in 1992. She was pregnant. The foal was male, roan color with a star slip and a snip on his face and had stockinged feet and legs the exact same as Secretariate! I couldn't believe it!

    • @kelcritcarroll
      @kelcritcarroll 5 місяців тому

      Seeing as horses are on the feet pretty much constantly he was in alot of pain im assuming?

    • @user-jh6vn4jl6d
      @user-jh6vn4jl6d Місяць тому

      HE BROKE DOWN ON 5HE TRAININ TRACK . THEY COULD NOT TO ANYTHING FOR HIM , BUT TAKE HIS PAIN AWAY . THAT HAPPENS A LOT . HE IS FREE FROM PAIN . WITH HIS FAMILY AND JOHHNY HE IS NAME AFTER TOO . RIP JOHHNY . YA WILL BE REMEMBERED . HUGS TO ALL 3 OF YA . 😢

  • @kayeroskaft9619
    @kayeroskaft9619 Рік тому +2

    This was such a sad story (I had learned of this colt several years ago) that I couldn’t watch this. I appreciate knowing about this special colt.

  • @beautifuldancingfreestyle2202
    @beautifuldancingfreestyle2202 7 років тому +40

    that guy that was walking him didnt know a thing..a horse will bob his head when in pain or struggling. THAT HORSE WAS WEAK AND ALSO WAS LAME! YOU CAN TELL! they should never of raced that horse, or done anything with it until it was properly healed.

    • @jophoenix3919
      @jophoenix3919 6 років тому +1

      the horse was very frighten the man was a HACK

    • @tacoschipotle3037
      @tacoschipotle3037 4 роки тому

      👋🏻 what happened to the horse??

    • @reneelecuyer2860
      @reneelecuyer2860 4 роки тому

      You are right he was lame on his too back legs

  • @sweetsueohio2
    @sweetsueohio2 7 років тому +80

    The story rather leaves a person hanging. It says nothing of what happened or how.

    • @mplum4796
      @mplum4796 5 років тому +5

      I know right? I don't know what happened to the poor horse based on this video.

    • @kelleyd4373
      @kelleyd4373 4 роки тому +3

      Yep

    • @Lilylu_NYC
      @Lilylu_NYC 4 роки тому +3

      He fell and shattered his leg.

    • @christhompson9486
      @christhompson9486 3 роки тому +3

      Broke his left leg while training.

  • @dennisflynn5045
    @dennisflynn5045 6 років тому +6

    I'm learning things tonight about Secretariat and the world he lived in. Glad to meet him, and I know he's with his loved ones.

  • @northernlitez1
    @northernlitez1 7 років тому +119

    I love these beauties, but I HATE what the industry does to them RIP beautiful boy

    • @DaebakMonkey
      @DaebakMonkey 7 років тому +3

      What don't you like about the industry out of curiosity? You know that Secretariat's jockey Ron "Ronnie" Turcotte almost never whipped him right? He only whipped him a few times in the Belmont Stakes.

    • @annahoward4891
      @annahoward4891 7 років тому +13

      DaebakMonkey But do u know they race at 2 years old and nobody wants them after 4 cause they screwed then up at 2.. all they were taught was to run in a straight line and run as fast as they could. That's why all u see in kill pens are Ottbs ... At 2 I'm training my horses to walk with me on them. Not running at full speed

    • @DaebakMonkey
      @DaebakMonkey 7 років тому +1

      Yes I did. I have an aunt and uncle in the show horse breeding business and I work with them during the summer and get to meet racehorses and their trainers.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 6 років тому +1

      Nonsense on that "all u see in kill pens are Ottbs". Check out the number of horses that are racing every year in the US compared to the number of horses that go through the auctions and are bought by kill buyers. Like, the number of horses racing is a tiny percent of the ones that end up on meat hooks.
      Most of the horses going to Canada and Mexico are grade horses, crossbreds and QH types, not ex-racers.

    • @HopeCreekConnemara
      @HopeCreekConnemara 6 років тому +5

      He looked very juvenile in the training photos with chopped off hind toes and too much heel which gave him a weird hind end angle, of course just my opinion. Very much an awkward gawky youngster who needed an extra long time to get condition on and grow.

  • @dorian4373
    @dorian4373 Рік тому +2

    Sorry for your loss he was a beautiful young horse

  • @nancysloan3731
    @nancysloan3731 2 роки тому +3

    What a handsome grandson of Secretariat! That gorgeous copper color just like his granddaddy.

  • @marinasaracostello3173
    @marinasaracostello3173 Рік тому +1

    🏯💚🐼💙🏰Sometimes Words Can't Express Feelings!!😢I Lost My Mom Passed 3 Yrs. Ago, My Dad Passed In 2012!!❄️I Know It's Not The Same But The Feeling Of Loss Is There!!✝️Much Positive Prayers!!💒✝️☦️☯️🔞🚭🚰🧯🧯🎨

  • @martynotth7640
    @martynotth7640 6 років тому +2

    Am so sorry for your loss. Beautiful horse.

  • @sydneytucker5585
    @sydneytucker5585 7 років тому +9

    I will always love you secretariat ❤❤

  • @1jazzyphae
    @1jazzyphae 7 років тому +20

    I would love to meet all the people who own a grand or great grand of secretariat. My boy is 3rd generation he acts just like him. His dad was commendable. He came from gone west. And secretame I just love looking at the pedigrees

    • @loridaniels3987
      @loridaniels3987 3 роки тому

      We have two grandsons at the barn where I board my horse. One of them looks just like him.

    • @x.moonie.x4754
      @x.moonie.x4754 2 роки тому

      I have his great great grandson Rum BaBa,looks like him and acts like a big baby

    • @meemurthelemur4811
      @meemurthelemur4811 2 роки тому +1

      I have a grandson, Stubborn Slugger, foaled in 1993. He definitely has a touch of his attitude. I am also the legal owner of a great granddaughter, last known by the name Royal Secret, foaled in 2010, missing since 2012, 14.1hh black, no markings, with a large scar on the inside of her right hind leg.

    • @TRM_54
      @TRM_54 Рік тому +1

      A grand daughter was recently rescued from a kill pen!

  • @rebeccalively690
    @rebeccalively690 7 років тому +10

    I knew I would tear up watching this and the Somewhere in time music by John Barry is my favorite soundtrack ever
    RIP beautiful boy :(

  • @rocioaguilera7255
    @rocioaguilera7255 5 років тому +3

    I cried. A horrible tragedy. RIP, little angel

  • @texasyankee3512
    @texasyankee3512 6 років тому +10

    Like Secretariat the progeny of Bold Ruler tend to get big fast, quote "early developers", but in fact they are
    big for their age and should be brought along slower rather than faster -- should not be started until 3 years old.

  • @bethfornaro9383
    @bethfornaro9383 7 років тому +5

    Just wanted to address two things: 1. There are a lot of Secretariat descendants out there. It's not beyond the scope of reality that there are other grandsons/daughters still living. 2. And should be #1- there are many many many well bred thoroughbred horses thrown out at the meat auction. This is the reality of the industry. Not all well bred horses pan out. A horse can sell for 1 million at auction and through the industry revolving door it not successful , can find itself at a meat auction within 2-3 years selling as meat on the hoof, priced by the pound. It's dreadful. They pull them from the track to the truck and straight to the meat man. A horse can finish last on Monday and be in the food chain by Wednesday. Tracks have put 'no slaughter' sale policies in place , but it still happens all the time. Meat men falsify the papers and send drug filled horses to the slaughterhouse for human consumption. It would be kinder to shoot them at the track, as they do in Puerto Rico.

    • @melvinpartridge688
      @melvinpartridge688 2 роки тому +2

      That was tough to read, and really upsetting but thank you for the insight

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 Рік тому +1

      They need to pass the safe acf

  • @elenekokauri8003
    @elenekokauri8003 3 роки тому +3

    We have a grandson of the Secretariat in Georgia, Krutoi, and he is our pride

  • @lost94133
    @lost94133 7 років тому +11

    from what i understand secretariat had a heart that was bigger than normal and that's why he could run longer than most horses

    • @vw4943
      @vw4943 3 роки тому +5

      that is true! They called it the X Factor. An average horse’s heart will weigh around 10 pounds. Secretariat’s was 20-21 pounds.

    • @gwynnethmay660
      @gwynnethmay660 3 роки тому +8

      We had a famous race horse here in Australia called Phar Lap and he couldn't be beaten too. He also had a larger than normal heart.

    • @monicaewers2200
      @monicaewers2200 3 роки тому +5

      The Phantastic Phar Lap!!!

    • @Ricobaca
      @Ricobaca 2 роки тому +1

      @@gwynnethmay660 what happened to him?

    • @matthewhansen4618
      @matthewhansen4618 Рік тому

      @@Ricobaca There are many theories. He died when he came to America to race there, the popular belief was that he was slipped poison in his oats or something.

  • @pillowbabekathy
    @pillowbabekathy 5 років тому +2

    I am so very sorry for your loss, beautiful horse, and i will miss him, so sad

  • @ripleywho
    @ripleywho 5 років тому +3

    R.I.P Boy.... even the people who never met u... will love u forever

  • @KevinRAAMAAAGE
    @KevinRAAMAAAGE 3 роки тому +6

    And to think this one done to the bloodline of a lord amoung horses. Secretariat was the real life shadow fax, and look at what's happened to them. That just means the futures of any of the others are t guaranteed and the racing industry is fucked and backwards. I fully believe Secretariat succeeded in part because his owner LOVED him.

  • @np100
    @np100 2 роки тому +2

    He looked like his grandfather, especially the famous red coat. My condolences.

  • @fordranger4660
    @fordranger4660 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful horses and sad his passing.

  • @cinteltex7877
    @cinteltex7877 7 років тому +3

    Really really sad... what a beautiful horse...

  • @marymathenia7092
    @marymathenia7092 7 років тому +166

    Not sure where you got your information, as I too have a direct grandson of Secretariat.

    • @sydneyequestrian7456
      @sydneyequestrian7456 7 років тому +7

      Mary Mathenia me too!

    • @beverlyarcher3744
      @beverlyarcher3744 7 років тому +9

      Mary Mathenia could mean last born grandson?

    • @vr9580
      @vr9580 7 років тому +3

      Mary Mathenia is yours a race horse? race 🏇

    • @anniesbreyers5541
      @anniesbreyers5541 7 років тому +2

      Mary Mathenia sureeee I highly doubt that

    • @cobb5223
      @cobb5223 7 років тому +7

      Annie's Breyers Who are you to say no?

  • @traviswilliam5453
    @traviswilliam5453 4 роки тому +4

    Any true " Horseman " doesn't have anyone get on a colt or filly of 2 and pound down the track on tbem, etc. That's why literally 10s of thousands of thoroughbred race horses brake down , are injured and hurt and are euthanized each year.

  • @kevindecoteau3186
    @kevindecoteau3186 6 років тому +4

    He was beautiful.

  • @AddysonWest
    @AddysonWest 5 років тому +11

    Thunder is like hoof prints in the sky 💕

    • @celestiafanforever
      @celestiafanforever 3 роки тому +1

      My mom always told me that the angels were having a bowling party and the thunder is them getting a strike.

  • @lynneblais4760
    @lynneblais4760 3 роки тому +2

    Yes it’s pretty disgusting that all these horses are sent to the kill pipeline which brutality abuses them from shipping them to killing them. Hanging them by one leg while they’re still alive and electrocuting them, whipping them. It’s an unbelievable sight to see. Plus, these horses are not meant for humane consumption. They’re not suited for animal consumption either. They don’t tell dog and cat owners that the food they buy has horse meat in it and that the horses from the USA and Canada are full of chemicals due to all the medications, supplements, and every different concoction that you can’t even imagine that the trainers give to the horses to perform better. This is a dirty secret that these kill pipe lines don’t want you to know. If you’re going to slaughter animals, at least have the decency to do it humanly and tell the people what they’re eating even if the meat is being sent overseas.

  • @crystalregan2481
    @crystalregan2481 Рік тому +1

    I'm so sorry for this beauty has passed don't know why I'm crying I just know I have a great honor I'm seeing his grandfather in the Kentucky Derby ♥️ reminds me so much of Red

  • @americanfreedom2342
    @americanfreedom2342 8 років тому +15

    Why did they have to put the horse down?! I'm crying because I watched his grandpa horse secretariat race as a little girl !! My daddy RIP use to take me and my mom and brother to the race horses! MY Condolences I'd of loved to had seen his grandson Johnny!

    • @bon-jb4sk
      @bon-jb4sk 7 років тому +5

      I googled and found this, also on facebook, don't know why cause of death wasn't explained on this video. If you type in Shirley Bennett in FB this whole post by her will probably be there.
      On Thursday, December 11, (wrong date-it happened on the 10th) Johnny
      Leroy went to the track at Palm Beach Downs for a routine gallop with
      his regular exercise rider. On the far turn it was reported by the rider
      and trainer that the horse suddenly went towards the outside rail and
      collapsed. Examination revealed a complete fracture of the horse’s left
      radius. Unfortunately, this is a catastrophic injury in the horse, and
      Johnny Leroy was humanely euthanized on the racetrack. We are extremely
      sorry for this tragic loss.

    • @suzannalytle2758
      @suzannalytle2758 7 років тому +10

      Racing horses is a brutal business which claims the lives of several horses every year. many having to be euthanized right there on the tracks. I have seen them haul these "curtains" out to block peopled from having to see the horses being put down.this kind of thing is seen in much of the racing world as simply business as usual. it is a necessary risk that is considered acceptable if you want to win.

    • @rossmunn9770
      @rossmunn9770 7 років тому +18

      Yes, I agree, it's all about money. How about the western States shooting the wild horses because they are grazing on land for cattle. That's being allowed, those horses and their ancestors were there before the ranchers. That is sickening and should be stopped.

    • @neverwithoutnalani
      @neverwithoutnalani 7 років тому +8

      suzanna Lytle if you have the heart to watch I suggest watching a vid about Eight Belles her story was quite sad and I miss her

    • @daphnew1591
      @daphnew1591 7 років тому +3

      So true, A beautiful mare, who died so young. She was blazing fast and unfortunately we will never know how great this mare would have been. Micheline Kribs,Rolla,MO

  • @jessierudin442
    @jessierudin442 7 років тому +4

    Me too, I have one off Secretariats grandsons, his name is Airborne, my mom used to do eventing on him, and then when I was borne he was the first horse I ever rode.

  • @janetgriffiths7200
    @janetgriffiths7200 7 років тому +4

    He was gorgeous. Love that Nearco hind end!!!

  • @bon-jb4sk
    @bon-jb4sk 7 років тому +13

    The piece is long, but these are the 2 relevant paragraphs as to what happened. I'm wondering what this part means re. 'not having him under control as much as he wanted". He said he was very aggressive on the track (the horse?) and how HE WAS TRYING "DIFFERENT THINGS" to harness his energy." again, the rider was trying different things or the horse was, to harness his energy. The horse collapsed after rider and or trainer didn't have Johnny "under control as much as he wanted". Had this ever happened before? Was this Johnny's first trip to Gulfstream? How long was rider his "regular exercise rider".
    I googled Johnny Leroy Secretariat and found this.
    Johnny Leroy went to the track at Palm Beach Downs for a routine
    gallop with his regular exercise rider. On the far turn it was reported
    by the rider and trainer that the horse suddenly went towards the
    outside rail and collapsed. Examination revealed a complete fracture of
    the horse’s left radius. Unfortunately, this is a catastrophic injury in
    the horse, and Johnny Leroy was humanely euthanized on the racetrack.
    We are extremely sorry for this tragic loss. (The email was not
    addressed to Shirley as the owner/breeder, nor was it signed by anyone).
    I can only tell you what I’ve been told. I spoke to Todd at Gulfstream
    Park while claiming back one of our home bred mares. He was sincerely
    apologetic about the accident and explained a few things about his
    concerns of not having him “under control” as much as he wanted. He said
    he was very aggressive on the track and how he was trying different
    things to harness his energy.
    facebook.com/secretariats.glory/posts/550980025076333

    • @TheLivingFlame1
      @TheLivingFlame1 7 років тому +2

      Really sounds like the rider & trainer were responsible for what happened. The horse was likely already injured & maybe that's why he was acting up. This happens a lot, and everyone knows Pletcher does not always have the best interest of his horses in mind.

    • @lired70
      @lired70 7 років тому +4

      This story is tragic indeed! However, people have to understand that Secretariat was syndicated for over 6 million dollars! That's about $190,000 for him to impregnate a mare! There are probably too many horses out there with his genes floating around. When you get into genealogy, it gets nasty! Everyone hopes that a great racehorse will duplicate himself, this rarely happens! With horses being artificially inseminated, (it is a fact in the canine world), when one is trying to track one gene, a lot of the other genes are diluted and the end result is ugly! Personally, I have never owned a horse, I have been around a lot of them and was a rider from age 10. My personal experience was with my Labrador Retrievers! I had no idea that the breeder was going for an all white litter! There is no white Lab! However, you can dilute a yellow Lab's genes to get to white! The AKC will accept them and document them as yellow! Why? You can only get a white from diluted yellow genes! What this can represent for the unsuspecting owner is heartbreak for the dog! My 2 Labs both siblings went through serious leg surgeries, (severed ACL's, torn meniscus). My female had OCD, my male had no thyroid function! They had so much love and the best medical care available. They were deemed genetically defective! So, my advice to anyone buying an animal is to tread cautiously, do your homework and be financially prepared for what could happen. Don't buy a horse or dog for color or because it may have a great racehorse's genes. Let nature take it's course. I don't think that I will see a horse of Secretariat's caliber in my lifetime. He was bred the old fashioned way, and was won from a coin toss!! We will never get to what he was by trying to duplicate him. We as humans have to be mindful of the animal. Truly, I love these horses, however, I have lost respect for the sport! I think that Johnny Leroy may have been a victim of dare I say a genetic quirk and perhaps not handled as well as he could have been?

    • @michellecotter7017
      @michellecotter7017 6 років тому +2

      You're right. When people try to reproduce something they need more then one gene of it. In the canine world that I am in I bred a top ten dog of my breed in the country. To do that you must line breed. That means you need to have the same genes on the sire and mares side not just one on one side. It would take at least 3 of secretariats genes to try to reproduce himself. That is probably why it has yet to happen. And without him around and not knowing if there is frozen semen on him ( which there should have been) plus not knowing how many of his mares are still out there you will never get him. They need to take Sires and Mares with his direct genes on both sides to try and get it. Not sure if they ever did that. I know he produced way more mares then stallions. But they could have taken frozen semen and used it on some of the granddaughters so it would not be too close in pedigree. That might have worked. JMO

    • @lired70
      @lired70 6 років тому

      Maybe he should have been gelded??

    • @terryrussel523
      @terryrussel523 6 років тому +4

      I have checked a lot of pedigrees over the years and the racing industry sure is trying to reproduce what Mr. Chenery did. Most of the high grade / Triple Crown racing stock at the tracks today trace back to the Nasrulla/Princequillo lines, as well as Man-o-War.

  • @junehansen9749
    @junehansen9749 4 роки тому +1

    Secretariat´s legacy is not gone,.....i have own´t a horse whit Secretariat, man o war and seabuiscuit in he´s bloodline. he´s name was Royal Fay´t, i bought him from a horse dealer 6 mth old dying from worm attack, he fighte´t whit os 3 years before he cout keep weight on by him self. i sold him as 6 years old, trained in the classic art of riding....it was after then i found out he´s top racing legacy. it explanied ALOT, becaurse of every thing we did, he´s favorit fun was to run, and hell he cut run, we often joket about taking him to a race track to se how fast he wout accturely run if he got the change, becaurse no matter how fast we let him run, he alwayes seemt to have a higher gear....now´s he´s 11 years and living like a king whit he´s soulmate that bought him so many years ago. now in the dressage arena. any ways. the king´s legacy is not gone, legend´s live on.
    ua-cam.com/video/8UWZibQ2mf0/v-deo.html

  • @cheyenneshoemaker6627
    @cheyenneshoemaker6627 5 років тому +2

    This is not right i had a grandson of secretarient this was not his only but sadley he passed away from a sickness in 2016 his name was red. Hands down best horse i have ever had he is in my heart.😔

  • @janetmckenzie146
    @janetmckenzie146 Рік тому +3

    I’m sorry to say this, but what happened to Johnny Leroy is really the dark underside of horse racing. Many, many horses are fatally injured each year while training for or running a race. It’s very sad, and I’ve stopped watching the Triple Crown races, as thrilling as they are, because I don’t know how the horses are treated, if they are drugged, if they have a fracture or some other reason that should be disqualifying. Basically, the physiology of race horses is too fragile for what they are being asked to do. Note the many leg/ankle injuries. It might be different if they could be treated for these injuries, but they can’t, so the only option is to kill them. Immediately. Because that is what is happening, despite the distant, unemotional word, euthanized.

  • @paulamartin2139
    @paulamartin2139 7 років тому +67

    They start racing these horses too early, there bones haven't matured , that is why so many get hurt and die. Racing an animal to make money is a sick way to earn a living, off the torture of horses that are to young to start racing at the age of 2 yrs old. I am glad their are more of Secretariat's off spring out there, maybe someday they will finally learn that the horses DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT THEY ARE GIVEN. Probably not soon enough though. Just my opinion.

    • @michellecotter7017
      @michellecotter7017 6 років тому +2

      And also live more in a stall then in a pasture. That is a fact. Need people to quit betting at the racetracks that would stop that industry. And it's a racket. Like anything else. It's all about the money forget about the animal.

    • @kjjones4104
      @kjjones4104 6 років тому +2

      I agree. And every time I hear an owner saying how much they love the horse and Oh the horse is the important thing, I want to ask them about racing them so early, racing them in rain, tons of awful, slippery mud, etc. Their actions always make their words lies.

    • @reginacollins6880
      @reginacollins6880 5 років тому

      earlymusicus youre right. I doubt it as well

  • @TheORIGINALIronGrace
    @TheORIGINALIronGrace 4 роки тому +7

    Secretariat NEVER should have died. Laminitis/foundering fully preventable. Amazes me to this day that the care of the best racehorse to walk the earth didn't have proper care. He'd have a lot more sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters...etc etc etc

  • @HerowolfMC
    @HerowolfMC 7 років тому

    Omg... I'm so sorry

  • @daleharveyjohnson9291
    @daleharveyjohnson9291 8 років тому +6

    I'm in tears. This is so sad. Was this the cute little colt you filmed running all around in circles in his paddock with his mother chasing after him?? I'm so sorry.

    • @snwoods
      @snwoods 8 років тому

      +Dale Harvey Johnson I don't think it's the same horse. The colt that was running around is named Shiny Penny.

    • @daleharveyjohnson9291
      @daleharveyjohnson9291 8 років тому +2

      You are right. Not that little colt. Thanks for answering my question. This is heart breaking.

  • @samiamisme
    @samiamisme 7 років тому +3

    Very sweet, bittersweet. What happened to him? I always hate to hear of sudden euthanasia before the owner has a chance to say goodbye, but of course we don't want any unnecessary suffering. He was a beauty. Looked like he might have been a bit of a goofball too?

  • @ljgaines8170
    @ljgaines8170 5 років тому +3

    The first thing somebody asked it's what stud is he out of but the Mare plays a big part

  • @ewsdjkrsfmnekrtj3880
    @ewsdjkrsfmnekrtj3880 3 роки тому +1

    Also I think the guy walking him was a vet since he was talking about his back legs so this will fix the confusion

  • @brettwilkinson9529
    @brettwilkinson9529 4 роки тому +1

    All horses shouldn't be raced until they are 3 year olds.Late maturers at 4.

  • @109367
    @109367 7 років тому +1

    To everyone saying this was not Secretariat's last grandson, I think they mean the last born grandson, to which they would actually be correct, from what I can tell he is/was the last grandfoal by quite a bit. So if you have a grandson by Secretariat that is 19 years old, congratulations but that's not what they meant.

  • @Kairis7550
    @Kairis7550 2 місяці тому +1

    Does anyone know why Johnny Leroy was euthanized? I’ve been looking and don’t see anything that says why. Would appreciate any information … So sorry for your loss … RIP Johnny Leroy … You are deeply loved/sorely missed 😭💔

  • @chloelonsdale268
    @chloelonsdale268 7 років тому +10

    what happened to the grandson?

  • @ablue5419
    @ablue5419 4 роки тому +1

    Those poor animals the majority of people treat those poor horses like money making machines subject to be abused and exploited the most of the time in the horse race industry those poor animals finish with injuries, dead or in slaughter houses with a few exceptions is so sad and cruel ( for the people who really don’t know what happens to this horse here is the information he was running for training purposes and suddenly he went into the rail and collapsed he has a devastating injury in the left leg and the poor horse have to be euthanize . )

    • @rimo1267
      @rimo1267 3 роки тому

      A few are abused. Not the majority.

  • @tristensolock7620
    @tristensolock7620 Рік тому

    Horse racing is horrific animal abuse and everyone involved should be harshly punished.

  • @shirleybennett3450
    @shirleybennett3450 7 років тому +93

    Sorry for the confusion: Johnny Leroy was the last born grandson on May 1, 2013. There are many grandchildren still out there but they are older. I have another grandson foaled in 2011, Secretariat's Glory. There was another grandson that also foaled in 2011 that was reported to the Jockey Club named Hiccup. He as from New York and actually raced against Glory at Gulfstream Park, FL. Glory Meadows breeds exclusively to Secretariat bloodlines for the pure joy of growing the Secretariat Family Tree. We currently have 22 descendants from daughter, grandson, granddaughter, and rest are great, great-great & great-great-great grandchildren of the greatest horse that ever lived in my book. I will graciously stand corrected if anyone has one born after 5-1-2013.

    • @TheLivingFlame1
      @TheLivingFlame1 7 років тому +3

      Shirley Bennett Thats very cool! I sure wish I had some Secretariat grands & great grands running around. Maybe some day!

    • @TheLivingFlame1
      @TheLivingFlame1 7 років тому +3

      Is Secretariats Glory still racing? Sorry for the loss of Johnny Leroy, very tragic indeed. At least he experienced much love & kindness in his life. He was very fortunate in that regard.

    • @lamoinette23
      @lamoinette23 7 років тому +8

      Very sorry for your loss.. i found this video due to searching a story about
      a grandson of Secretariat being rescued from an abusive home. Greatest
      horse in living memory. Your Johnny had his sparkle. May they all rest in peace.

    • @DarleneDeMayo
      @DarleneDeMayo 6 років тому +3

      I have his GG granddaughter BeBe and she is a beauty! See her on my channel if you want *:D

    • @Sarcasm_72
      @Sarcasm_72 5 років тому

      I don't know the lineage very well for Secretariat but I found someone claiming to have a great,great,great however many greats and his name is Secretariat Hercules born April 2017..how would I know if that's true? He's a beautiful foul looks like Secretariat except the foul is bay not Chestnut.. could you email me about this..I'm researching like nobody's business before I buy him. marttam72@gmail.com (Tammy)

  • @karenlloyd2453
    @karenlloyd2453 4 роки тому +1

    No horse should have anyone on it's back until she 3!!! The horse racing industry knows this and all they care about is making $$$$$ ASAP!!! The age for the Kentucky Derby should be moved to age 4, when these beautiful horses has strong, solid bones, not fragile 2 year olds!!! Ruffian, Eight Belles, Barbaro and countless track horses have broken down due to their soft bones being pushed TOO YOUNG!!! MURDERERS!!!😪😡

  • @linafest9483
    @linafest9483 5 років тому +4

    I just found out my horse is a descendant of secretariat (we checked the stud book).

    • @auletjohnast03638
      @auletjohnast03638 5 років тому +1

      Lina Fest, Will he be racing for the tripple👑?

    • @linafest9483
      @linafest9483 5 років тому +2

      john alt no, we are training him to become a show jumper because his build wasn't good for a race horse. (:

  • @vwyldrose1153
    @vwyldrose1153 4 роки тому +2

    That colt looked lame as heck on the lead line.

  • @irenedornbach1661
    @irenedornbach1661 7 років тому

    That is the saddest thing

  • @xxmissnolaxx2435
    @xxmissnolaxx2435 6 років тому +1

    My riding instructor has one of secretariat's grand daughters.

  • @aky19832001
    @aky19832001 6 років тому

    He's all legs. Having a grandson means nothing. Nothing will ever be as good as he was. He was never able to produce anything of quality worth braging about

  • @tinamaninger3063
    @tinamaninger3063 7 років тому +2

    Im sure this mean his last born grandson or possibly refering to the last in their own barn.

  • @ashleygaley2135
    @ashleygaley2135 6 років тому +1

    They were racing the poor thing at TWO? No wonder it died.

  • @patriciarussell1177
    @patriciarussell1177 4 роки тому +1

    it's so sad when the last Baby dies out of that beautiful genetic line of any species

    • @shirleybennett276
      @shirleybennett276 4 роки тому +2

      Johnny Leroy was sired by Leroidesanimaux, who was the sire of Animal Kingdom (2011 Kentucky Derby winner and Dubai World Cup champion). His dame was the last producing daughter, Secretariat's Fire, from Secretariats last foal crop. The mare-match nicking score for this breeding was a triple A rating...highest obtainable score and he was most like his Triple Crown grandsire, Secretariat, than any other colt from Glory Meadows 6 foal crops. I was strongly encouraged to send him to the best trainer, so I went to the top of the list. Word of the "tragic accident" arrived by a phone call on Dec 10th of 2015 just weeks before his maiden race. The devastation of the accident which caused several fractures to his right front upper leg/shoulder area was at the same height of the track railing, although I was never told he ran into the rail. The devastation caused me to refocus the mission away from racing to a philanthropic effort reach out to Veterans and Special Needs Children as a Therapeutic Center. This was my late-husband's last "Bucket List Wish". For more info: www.glorymeadows.org (or email: glorymeadowsfoundation@gmail.com)

  • @yvanwillard8497
    @yvanwillard8497 6 років тому

    How many horses must die out of the public eye and behind the scenes before both horse racing and betting are deemed an archaic and abusive abomination to horses everywhere? Smdh.

  • @presliking834
    @presliking834 6 років тому

    Yes, I also have a grandson of Secretariat.

  • @cindysunshine7854
    @cindysunshine7854 2 роки тому +1

    So sad 😞

  • @flex9856
    @flex9856 2 роки тому

    Just Awesome

  • @vinceviczko5254
    @vinceviczko5254 5 років тому +2

    RIP Big Boy you will missed

  • @DarleneDeMayo
    @DarleneDeMayo 6 років тому

    I have Secretariat's GG granddaughter 'Racers Be Be Cash' and she is a beauty like her GG grandpop! You can see her on my channel if you want and Say hi *:D Your horse was gorgeous too! Thanks for sharing

  • @Whitemagickalchemy
    @Whitemagickalchemy 7 років тому +6

    I have one of Secretariats GGsons and frankly, perhaps if you didnt RACE him, he'd still be alive today -

    • @chomama1628
      @chomama1628 3 роки тому +1

      Racehorse are bred to run. It’s in their blood.

  • @joycenesselhauf1220
    @joycenesselhauf1220 Рік тому

    They just keep doing the same things over and over….abusing these horses, killing them and go get another one. It’s tragic and heartless what they do to these babies.

  • @candycanupp9954
    @candycanupp9954 5 років тому +1

    He's beautiful

  • @mikeyates7931
    @mikeyates7931 Місяць тому

    Why do you stand at my grave and weep ?
    I am not there ; I do not sleep !
    I am healthy , well and strong ,
    Here in GOD'S Heaven I can do no wrong !
    So do not stand at my grave and cry ;
    I am not there ; I did not die !
    And come what may ,
    This is what I say ;
    We'll meet again some sunny day ❤

  • @lorelaik8182
    @lorelaik8182 7 років тому +5

    I'm not crying, your crying 😢😍

  • @debbiemarshall6522
    @debbiemarshall6522 2 роки тому

    My girl is Alexander Secret by Secretariat he is her great grandfather x

  • @believeinyourself7511
    @believeinyourself7511 6 років тому

    I rode a few horses that have Secretariats Bloodline. Beautiful baby here.

  • @Lupita-eu2xu
    @Lupita-eu2xu 6 років тому

    Secretariat is a beautiful boy and just he was fast the perfect horse he ran he ran that’s what he was a run never stopping and I loved him

  • @sammjl
    @sammjl 6 років тому +2

    my horse has Secretariat in his blood line twice, (great, great grandson)

    • @kbluxuryhomes4148
      @kbluxuryhomes4148 2 роки тому +1

      yes!! I have a (great, great grandson) of Secretariat on one side, and Seattle Slew on the other :-) Great Horses - beautiful! and a bit crazy ..... I do love him!!

  • @jophoenix3919
    @jophoenix3919 7 років тому

    he looked terrified what the hell did you do to him!!!!!!

  • @jaywenger6140
    @jaywenger6140 3 роки тому

    8 years ago i bought some 5-8 year old grandsons of secretariat's out of his only appalossa son.

  • @clairelacey591
    @clairelacey591 6 років тому

    My old trainer had a great grandson of his

  • @maleahdavis2861
    @maleahdavis2861 7 років тому +1

    God Bless secretariats family, I have one of his great Granddaughters at my farm in Kentucky! It's amazing having champion in her blood she is amazing I wish horses never died, We all miss Secretariat!

  • @AhPhoey
    @AhPhoey 6 років тому +1

    I don't get it. Why did they say they had to kill the horse when he got to the race track? Weird they didn't give an explanation.

  • @tatumcampbell5311
    @tatumcampbell5311 7 років тому

    also another one of his grandsons is at my old best friends barn lol but glad there are still living legends of him

  • @randolphsfarm
    @randolphsfarm Рік тому

    I have a great great granddaughter in my barn from him. One Single Yesterday was her name. Now its Dice.

  • @patlongworth5998
    @patlongworth5998 Рік тому

    Hi I have a great great great grandson who is now 16.

  • @ansleythomas3345
    @ansleythomas3345 6 років тому +1

    This is not secretariats last grandson/granddaughter not my friend owns one of secretariats granddaughter and my grandmothers friend owns one of secretariats grandson also

  • @sydneyg324
    @sydneyg324 7 років тому +3

    not his last its pace at SoCal stables

  • @darlawilliams3250
    @darlawilliams3250 7 років тому +2

    I think they meant his last born grandson

  • @vandevannetpeter6730
    @vandevannetpeter6730 7 років тому

    i still have a great granddaughter at my barn.....

  • @alliewilson2438
    @alliewilson2438 7 років тому

    One is at my old barn too

  • @Lextacy06
    @Lextacy06 5 років тому

    People don't understand... he was the LAST grandbaby born of Secretariat. Not the ONLY.

  • @mcmanagement8456
    @mcmanagement8456 7 років тому

    It's so sad 😭😭😭