Concept car CAD/CAM- CNC 5 axis machining
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- concept car CNC 5 axis machining.
Milling, roughing, semi-finishing, by WorkNC CAD/CAM software.
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its such a shame that this cannot be learned in high school here in ireland. Ive worked with mill machines in the past and the job is so interesting! The satisfaction of getting your programming correct is cool!
I use to do this by hand on a deckel or duplicator. Now they can do much more on cnc especially once they get the other axis going. So much more accurate.
the extra axis is where the revolving takes place. either by the head of the machine moving or the work piece rotating, thats the extra axis. think of your wrist you can move your hand side to side up and down but you can also rotate. hope this helps
high speed milling cutter, they make so great noise, good for my brain.lol nice work.
most CNC mills use the same, or very similar, functions to do the work required. These are known as G codes, and they tell the machine exactly what to do, such as arcs and other toolpaths, tool changes, etc. But to answer your question, no two programs are alike, a new one is required for each part you're making. Solid modeling or CADCAM programs like solidworks can export machine code, which typically transfers very well, although sometimes adjustments need to be made.
Very Cool! Looks like a very impressive Cam System.
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for simple models like just cutting a square or circular shape out of a block you may write codes easily but for milling that are difficult or the one in this video, you have to have a cad software like solid works or proE blah blah, so you can just model the part, and the software will generate codes for you. hope this helps!
@Chil3kwa There is the normal XYZ axis and the one that allows the work piece to spin and the one that allowed to to rotate to the 90 deg.
@Srfingfreak when maching aluminium, you doesn't need an oil lubricant or e-bua-xi water(sorry i don't know what it's name in english), because the lubricant will cool down the aluminium so fast, and stick to the cutting edge of the tools
Hello AAlen1987,
you're absolutely right, this is Aluminium AU4G. It's medium/strong resistance aluminium.
it depends on the material.
aluminium is a light material, so very easy to machine.
Stay tuned, another great concept car machining OTW !
You seriously can't dislike this
CARBIDE.CA Luv's this video of 5 AXIS MACHINING. Some of our customers fine this method great to demonstrate various body panel designs...
Very cool milling.
thank you for the compliment.
The "cooling" is a air and oil mix.
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I sooo want one of these machines!!!
if you can hold it you can machine it basically provinding you can get to it with fine cutters.
pretty cool thanks for sharing
$180,000 you think? I am a manufacturers rep for several machine tool builders and I can assure you that the entry level 5-axis machines capable of this kind of quality and speed starts around 1 million US dollars and goes up from there. Just the basic tooling package would start around $100k to $250k. I sold one last year that was large enough to machine something as big as a small car for $2.3m and another $500k is perishable tooling! Pretty crazy, huh?
Hi,
Yes, we have used Sandvik Tools a few times. We use a full tools library, from a lot of manufacturers, and we always look for Test partnership
absolutely incredible.
How does one begin to get into 4&5 axis milling?
Impressive stuff btw.
Super cool, thanks for sharing!
Well done !
@CADCAMexpert thats kool!
@jadenjak It's a Mikron HSM-600. (stated it's a -400 before, but It is a 600)
What do you mean by "making process called" ?
Only 1 half finished on this part, to show the simple roughing result and the finishing result/surface.
thats pretty sweet.... i was lucky enough to see full scale audi being milled at IMTS chicago on a big ass gantry mill....run time.... 37 hours... cool vid tho!
@NSResponder You need a 3D model of the P-38, then with Cad software, it may needs correction/adjustment.
Then programming process on CAM software, to prepare the model for machining. (toolpaths, ...)
Then, just machining.
@NewTaco522 lol 4000 letters and numbers. This was a huge program, probably DNC or similar. 4000 pages maybe....... for the first tool. CAM is nice for things like this.
Also to the uploader, very nice job.
@mdadnan Fabricating parts for cars, planes, trains, guitars, toasters, fire arms, you name it. If it has to be precision and lots of them, use CNC's. Plus, if you need to start making something different, just reprogram and change tools.
Hi Paulro,
The complete machining time took around 6-7 hours, including roughing, semi-finishing and finishing. (the finishing process is not in the video)
wow great compliment for this work how long did it take you to make the whole car?
So, when something like this is programmed, the user has to come up with an equation for the direction the tool must go, and then also account for the shape of the bit etc?
4th and 5th axes are the rotationa axes - tool rotation axis and the table rotation axis
I was just wondering what kind of education/training needed and how long would it take to be good at CAD/CAM-CNC for projects like this ?
Thanks, that sort of makes sense
@CADCAMexpert i think we have that software at school dunno for sure tho
thanks this very good show..
With a 4- or 5-axis mill. A lot of 4-axis stuff isn't difficult to program. Never dabbled in 5.
up to like 3:31 I thought you were remaking the toyota MR2 from the 90's lol, I was like AWESOME!..... and then I saw it was changing and then its still awesome! lol
Just brilliant!
@Srfingfreak its aluminum, doesn't generate that much heat.
Nice work,
too kool. I love it
@skowerr software used is WorkNC CAD/CAM system.
It supports many hardware.
@CADCAMexpert Great work dude, that was prob ages to make that code!
you guys should do into the model business, i would love to have a modle of a Austen Martin DB9 in solid steel ^.^
@TheBurnleymik ur probably right,but just judging by the feed rate and the speed of the tool its probably aluminium.
Eu conheço a maquina CNC de 5 eixos desde 1993,uma ferramentaria na epoca chamada Usimolde e ultima firma que trabalhei foi Cosmolde tbm tinha maquina CNC de 3 eixos,a empresa que não tiver essas maquinas,não poderá ganhar concorrencia de fazer os moldes complexas e tempo menor, tbm de fazer usinagem complexas de eletros em gabinetes,e a tecnilogia veio p/ficar,o futuro, quase todas as maquinas em CNC,até em brveve.
from 3:20 - 3:28 it shows the back of the car...is there damage done to it? Looks like a huge gouge where the mill might have collided with it.
the kind of 5 axis where the milling head can reach everywhere (but still need a rotating platform for undercuts), is extremely expensive.
it can easily cost 0.5 million dollars and more with options, not including periodical service program.
it is cheaper & faster to prototype a concept with stereolithography, thermojet technology, etc.
Клёво! Cool!
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very nice videos
Good....
The same model i made by using Hyper CAM
great job
@Gxleviisz holy cow is it a good thing to learn for engineering
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this is so cool
Bravo , awesome work
We work with the big tools makers companies like Seco, Hitachi Tools, Mitsubishi,...
In this situation, we used Seco tools
are you a mechnician? .. have you ever used coolant with indexable inserts?
Superbe!
nice video
@smacman68 Thank you for the information. It seems like you already understand the product quite well. In your understanding do you think the quality of the product is better for Japanese manufacturers or some Chinese brands are still competitive?
Thanks.
so how many numbers and letters did u have to enter i learned how to do this stuff last semester but its really hard to do and alot to do with numbers. also how long did it take u to enter it all correctly
very cool video, but the best part is that there isn't an annoying techno music
Why is it taking such light rough cuts overtop of the hood where so much material needs removed? Kind of inefficient for the roughing process, would've probably been better served with an inserted cutter hogging-out the bulk of it and then coming in with a roughing EM and then finally a finish EM. Pretty cool though, nonetheless.
PioneerSaturnDougie My thoughts exactly, would be one hell of a long cycle at that rate.
Nice bit of kit. What machine and what software did you use to do it?
Is it me, or was there some minor collision along the rear windshield?
great.
ive never used a milling machine irl, but i think the beggining of the cnc code is a waste of time?
is that a magnet that keeps the workpiece in place?
I don't understand what the five axes are. I though there was only three, the x,y, and z, one for each direction, up and down, side to side, and in and out. Please could someone explain?
I assume a lot of the tool path is generated automatically?
Nice CNC machining ang programming
How long run the programming?
What machine is used?
@sharpjaws that is NOT Aluminium. Thats pretty obvious from the swarf alone.
Cycle time is around 10 hours.
6 tools from Seco Tools have been used.
what are you use for cooling ?
by the way nice job.
yeah i have that software on my pc, its pirated but its very usefull... i wrk as a programmer and cnc operator.. we use master cam x for wrk...
is it possible to program this 5 axis project manually? if yes, how long would it take?
that is impressive
Yes, but can it boil a kettle and make a cup of tea ???
Itd take a wee bit more than 4000 letters and numbers to cut this part. Besides the program you draw the part in takes care of all the code you don't have to type it all into the control panel
but the excess heat can destroy the tool to right?
They (worknc) can only look (finish) as smooth as the surface image will allow,
which has a tendency to show up about the time finish is applied. The best finish results comes from true digital surface that a system like Tebis uses.
what do you mean with "the beggining of the cnc code", the early years?
good job!
why use a cnc i could do all of that by hand on a verticle mill even more precise in half the time?
What size step over did you use for the finishing with what size and type of tool?
in this case, all of it, you cannot write code to do this, the little window of a PC screen that pops up every now and then shows the program used to generate a 3D model and calculate the paths required, i cannot identify which program they used, as i haven't used it my self, though a good example is DS Catia, which i know is very good.
also, the early roughing may have been programed, but i doubt they would bother, that takes a lot of time to write, and the program can do it better/faster.
How small parts can it do, I wonder...
Hmm... I am envious of people who can get their hands on piece of machinery like this :(
amigo recien empizo a ver estoy y necesito saber que programa se utiliza para pasar del diseño 3d al codigo g para que el control numerico lo tome gracias
Ask that which one kind of trade mark ~ your first cutting tool is? Can give me this cutting tool's detailed material? Thanks
Ive worked with some more basic CNC machines, and your prices sound about right, they are spendy
Ahh!... I usually don`t reply to silly comments, but yours made me do so.
Now since you are so much into conventional vmc , you won`t understand why use a cnc!!
Since you can machine that with better quality on a vertical mill with your hands, I would like to know when will your hands be commercialized so that we can scrap our cnc machines for better hands!!
wondering, i got auto cadd at work, would a cadd draft work with a cnc machine after the design is tranfered and codex changed to cnc settings
@MrToolmakerman the noise is more than that when they machining the gear..
So, if I wanted a model of, say, a Lockheed P-38 machined out of stainless steel, about 12" wingspan, what would that run?
-jcr
very nice