@@joaoluizgraiebdefrancapint2531 She did not write the entire scene, nor did she write all her dialogue for this scene.. She added some of her own dialogue to it and improv a little, she states this in many interviews during the time of the movie opening..
I think it’s really amazing how Meryl can put herself in the shoes of this character. She’s someone who would never dream of leaving her child and she still managed to see Joanna’s point of view and I think that’s truly inspiring.
The greatest actors must be empathetic and understand the point of view of other people. Only when you truly understand can you inhabit another persons persona convincingly. That’s what I think anyway.
I think having Meryl writing her own lines in the movie really gave her character a lot of depth and complexity that really made the movie so much better than if she didn’t, because in the book, Johanna is incredibly one dimensional and just evil for no reason and I’m glad that Meryl took the time to create Johanna as a character who was going through a lot of personal issues that reflected the attitudes of so many women at the time or maybe even today!
Too bad for Joanna. While she was founding herself her husband became a single father while working a full time job. He's glad she could finally found herself after 18 soul searching months but it's unreasonable to want the kid back after that.
Because he’s my child. And because I love him. I know I left my son. I know that that’s a terrible thing to do. Believe me I have to live with that every day of my life. But in order to leave him, I had to believe that it was the only thing I could do. And that it was the best thing for him. I was incapable of functioning in that hombre and I didn’t know what the alternative was going to be so I thought it was not best that I take him with me. However, I have since gotten some help, and I have worked very, very hard to become a whole human being. And I don’t think I should be punished for that. And I don’t think my little boy should be punished. Billy’s only seven years old. He needs me. I’m not saying he doesn’t need his father, but I really believe he needs me more. I was his mommy for five and a half years. And Ted took over that role for eighteen months. But I don’t know how anyone can possibly believe that I have less of a stake in mothering that little boy than Mr. Kramer does. I’m his mother. I’m his mother.
This movie fascinated me as a little girl. I loved it. It gave me a lot of insight of my parents own divorce. Made me understand that it doesn’t have to do with the kids, it’s about them.
Honestly it’s not just her words it her expressions the hint of tears on the verge of spilling over. That’s a very realistic of how a person feels and reacts. I think many of us can relate to that even if under different circumstances.
I did this monologue for a drama class assignment and I just wish it was every bit as amazing as this was. She didn’t show much emotion in this in my opinion but i think that’s what makes it so heart-wrenching because she’s trying to make herself not seem vulnerable
What makes Meryl such a great actress is that she knows when to restrain her emotions in one scene and to know exactly when to elevate her emotions when it needs to for a scene. A lot of actors can really come off as either overacting or being too stiff if they don’t know how to emotionally balance out their scenes.
Meryl Streep was so young in this and she won 3 Oscars and she has 21 oscar nominations under her belt! Meryl Streep is perfection and she can do anything!
I’m amazed at how many people hate this character so much. She walked out of her home and son but then came back. She was mentally ill. Depressed. She needed help. She was only human. And by the end of the movie she was completely selfless and decided to give custody of her little boy to her ex husband.
Yeah, the husband was a jerk in the beginning, as well. He didn't care about his family and that was part of his journey in the film. At least her character had a real excuse.
As someone who saw their mother walk out the door, no warning, no looking back, dumping everything on Dad, I can tell you it was the worst year of my life and the worst year of my father's life. She had many choices. She never tried any of them, she one day got up and went no contact. Just like Meryl Streep's character. It is the most selfish thing a mother can do to a child. The psychological damage, the terror, the single parenthood without any help. Parents give up their rights to be selfish when they choose to bring a helpless child into the world, and it is the worst mistake to get up and walk out without a word.
@@morgan13756 Same thing happened to me with my dad. It was traumatizing. But as an adult, I really see him now as just a human being who had no clue about his own life. My opinion on the movie and the character is still the same. I’ve experienced trauma too and that’s why I understand. I’m sorry you had to go through that too and I hope you’ve healed!
If anyone is judging any of these parents they are missing the whole point of the movie…..this movie is so brilliant because it recognises that life isn’t black and white, wrong or right…..it deals with the grey….that we’re all human beings and we make decisions in our lives based on how we feel, think, understand a thing at that time, that we makes decisions for what we feel justified, that we’re all flawed and imperfect…this movie deals with the reality of life….
@@kdohertygizbur I found her character vindictive. She wanted to see her son, she’s his mother sure but she pulled some bullshit. It’s still a great performance, Meryl is legend but I just thought she was is all.
@@DHGlee2013 Vindictive would mean that she wanted to take her son in order to get back at her ex-husband, which is of course wasn't her motive. She wanted her son b/c she loved the son. Maybe selfish would be a better word? But in the end she changed her mind. So...
millions of men have done for years what streeps character did in the movie. and nobody has condemed them, they come back and get visiting rights to their kids years later and they get it, after the mother has spent years looking after the child. one dad spend 18 months looking after a kid he probably spent very little with in the first seven years of his life, then he condems the mom. if she hadnt of left, do you think hoffman character would have spent that time with his son. probably not.
LadyScorpio39 and those men are maligned and condemned by the vast majority of society, as they should be, and as she should be. The movie showed that regardless of gender, some people are more considerate and thoughtful parents while others are more selfish. Ted and Margaret were examples of men and women who were on the other end of inconsiderate selfish and unstable partners, and they were both examples of what a good father and a good mother look like Dont be a hypocrite out of bitterness, she didnt want visitation rights, she wanted a custody she did not earn or deserve
Plus she is trying for FULL CUSTODY after leaving him and her son for a year and a half. No one is questioning her right to be a mother but you it was an absolutely selfish act to try and separate her child and his father after they had built a relationship and a home. It was simply not in the child's best interest.
Are you kidding? Men who abandoned their kids were famously called dead beat dads. Is there a similar term for moms? And many men are alienated from their children.
Well if one parent isn't spending that much time with their kid, normally it is because they are working a lot. Both working spouses and stay-at-home-with-the-child spouses are contributing to the better for the family. In today's land of no-fault divorces, it's much easier for wives to file for divorce and fleece the husband. Mothers normally win custody and fathers will miss a lot of their children's accomplishments. Fathers can't get those moments back. The bottom line is Mrs. Kramer had no business getting full custody, since she left her child. It sounded like they would work something out, where Mrs. Kramer wouldn't be completely absent from her son, which is a good thing. To say, that deadbeat dads haven't been condemned is completely wrong.
Very poignant speech Mother's are flawed like fathers, parents are people, and even though separating oneself from your child might seem wrong, in the lesser of 2 evils it's the better scenario than a potentially worse alternative
I know, right? It's so unfair. When our parents were separated, my mother got full custody of my sisters and I. It took months for my dad to get byond supervised visits and almost three years before we were allowed to stay at his house overnight, and that was only every other weekend. He was always fighting for 50-50 custody, and he never got it despite having an apartment, having a good job, and the fact that my sisters and I always wanted to spend more time with him. It makes my blood boil to think that so many other kids are wanting more time with their father because courts rule in favor of the women.
Great actors! Meryl is very real. Her character started as a victim, a sacrificed mother with a beated self-esteem and ended up as a selfish human being who thinks deserves anything she wants because now she found her self. Dustin did great too. His character started as an ass, full of ego, lot of flaws and ended up growing up, fixing his flaws to take care of his kid and, of course, ended up as the victim (along with his son). Note: For decades people saying a mother is a better parent just because of her gender, and giving her custody because of that; so many wrongs by that idea, for decades. Until this day, people keep that idea and they even say there're studies that prove that, when there's none. One of the many privileges of women that lot of them use in a very abusive way.
You truly missed the whole point of the movie. You also must have missed the ending of the film. The Dad ends up with the son at his house but they share time with the son. How is this making the dad or child a victim? It’s the perfect solution and it comes because the Mom made three great decisions. Her first great decision was to leave when she was having a mental breakdown and could no longer function. It protected the child and, ultimately, made the Dad become a good father to his son. The second good decision was coming back, fighting for her kid. Kids need both parents if the parents are healthy. Her third great decision was to learn about how the dad had changed and to take that into account and allow the child to return to the father. Even the dad in this film recognized that he was as much at fault in this situation as she was and acknowledged it. This was a happy ending with the parents having regained respect for each other and the child having both parents in his life.
@@lauriebriggs9705 Did you not watch the movie? She abandoned her child. Left without saying goodbye to him. Then wanted to take him away from his father for herself. She wasn't going to let him have both of his parents. She needed counseling? Get counseling while still visiting your child. She took the selfish route all the way around. The only good thing she did was concede in the end and not traumatize her child a second time.
Excuse me... she was the one who left him alone to parent a little boy. If anything, this film is a perfect example of how children are affected by one or both parents putting their own selfish ambitions and desires before them.
Yeah, hell the scene when the boy cry’s out for her was heartbreaking, made me angry that she left him without a word and has the audacity to try and take him
Yes, you birthed that boy. But what kind of a mother abandons her 6 year old son? What kind of adult would decide to leave his or her son than find help while remaining apart of their boys life??
Joanna is the epitome of self-centeredness. She abandoned her son, slept around and thinks she can just waltz back in and destroy his life. She tore up her mother card when she walked out.
@@dandy8058 Yes that's called self-centeredness. Self sacrifice is the opposite. It's what a real parent does for their children. You aren't entitled to be "your true self" when you have children. You are required to sacrifice for them. It's not about you anymore.
@@sallybucket6924 why is it when a mom does that she gets called self centered and a terrible parent? but when the dad spends 8 years basically not knowing his son and being absent, only to bond with him when the mom leaves, he doesn't get as much judgement as her? I honestly understand her. yes what she did was wrong, but you got to consider the life she had before she left. it must be like hell to give up everything you are, everything you can do for a marriage
"I have worked very hard to become a whole human being". What a load of California bullshit. I'd have tossed her case out of court right then and there.
You can’t just say that millions of men of done that but also million’s women as done that as well. In most cases it will end up with the court awarding custody to the mother instead of the father who took care of him or her. Take a look at the mother in Liar Liar is obviously that the mother doesn’t care about the kids and care that the money and who see that kids where sort of life and that guy was a CEO.
I can't stand Dustin anymore....He slapped her in the hallway scene....He really slapped her on the cheek!Hard....In the cort scene he was saying name of her boyfriend that died one month earlier.....That is why the scene is so emotional....But still that doesn't give him a right to slapp her.....
"Before the take, Dustin had gone over to the witness stand to talk to Meryl. He needed her to implode on-camera, and he knew the magic words to make it happen: “John Cazale.” Out of Benton’s earshot, he started whispering the name in her ear, planting the seeds of anguish, as he had in the elevator scene. He knew she wasn’t over the loss. [...] Now, with a fat finger waving three inches from her face, Meryl heard the words “Were you a failure at the one most important relationship in your life?” Her eyes watered. Her lips tensed. Dustin had instructed her to look at him when she heard that line. When she did, he gave a little shake of his head, as if to say, “No, Meryl, you weren’t a failure.”"
I love her but I couldn't agree with her line if argument, for all the time she was Billy's mother, Kramer was his father and for the last 15 month he has been a father and a mother to their son so if he thinks he has more right , he is correct.
She was her sons primary caretaker for those years while Hoffman’s character built his illustrious career. Do you know how often that happens? That’s why she was mentally ill & suicidal. It was all on her.
It was one thing to move out but she completely abounded her son. She could have moved in with a friend or ask Ted to move out. She completely abonded Billy.
This movie belongs to a sellected group of movies, that had a huge role around the globe promoting and normalizing divorce and gynocentric family law reforms, aimed at incentivizing women to initiate their divorces (more than 90% of divorces are initiated by women) and deter men from marrying altogether.
Brooke Hanley Mothers are overrated?? I understand fathers are underrated but that doesn't mean mothers are overrated. Sacrificing your life so that you can devote yourself to your son is overrated (that's what my mother did) ? I don't think so
Do you all get it that he was saying name of her dead boyfriend in her ear?In the hallway scene he fricking slapped her so she would be more "sad"....He is a terrrible person...He couldn't keep his emotions in because of his wife he got divorced from couple months earlier....He is a jerk..I said it...
But too late u walked out on them especially you Joanna.. Even though your the mother you should have thought about not leaving you should have done better by being strong. it shld be u not gting him it should be Ted because Billy loves his father more. but at the end is complicated just saying
I was a child 6 and sister 3 of my parent's ugly divorce. By Australian Law my Mother had to move from House and rent share with friends ect and prove worked to support for a full 12 months. She DID! Was awarded sole custody and NEVER, EVER STOPPED WORKING! My Dad was SELF-EMPLOYED made much more money but was abusive-alcoholic before, during and after. My Mother deserved her children BACK THE HARD WAY. Meryl's character is pathetic, she has a husband earning good income but herself get's lost in space of her own making. The children suffer the most. Meryl the Creep! Deservedly a Dad/Father assume's responsibility and suceed's certainly worthy of custody than his flakey wife.
Alway's very glad My Mum got us back, but in this movie's case isnt truly reflective of it all except to say the Father went through the wrangler to support his kid and eventually succeeded but his estranged wife was a total dipshit!!!
Children custody should given to the mother. And the Government or State every where in the world has the obligation to protect single mothers until her son and / or daughter reach 18. and obligate fathers to support them. :D
Even if the mother abandoned the kid once? Who says she won't do it again. There are some cases where the father is better qualified to care for the child.
agn i am not jewish etc., agn ppl will find the quirky odd numbercentric , sexualization, mocking disturbing glorification of assaulting ppl, much like bhutto, a teenager with newborn in nursery not very amusing
The fact that she wrote this scene makes it even better :)
She really fought hard to make her character more than a 1-dimensional stereotype of an erratic selfish princess that was written in the book.
Ramon Suarez still minimsl screentime doesn’t do the job
@@Techfollowme what minimal..she won Supporting Actress
She wrote the whole courtroom stuff, I believe… she’s multitalented
@@joaoluizgraiebdefrancapint2531
She did not write the entire scene, nor did she write all her dialogue for this scene.. She added some of her own dialogue to it and improv a little, she states this in many interviews during the time of the movie opening..
I think it’s really amazing how Meryl can put herself in the shoes of this character. She’s someone who would never dream of leaving her child and she still managed to see Joanna’s point of view and I think that’s truly inspiring.
gina julian agreed!
The greatest actors must be empathetic and understand the point of view of other people. Only when you truly understand can you inhabit another persons persona convincingly. That’s what I think anyway.
I think having Meryl writing her own lines in the movie really gave her character a lot of depth and complexity that really made the movie so much better than if she didn’t, because in the book, Johanna is incredibly one dimensional and just evil for no reason and I’m glad that Meryl took the time to create Johanna as a character who was going through a lot of personal issues that reflected the attitudes of so many women at the time or maybe even today!
But all great actors do this lol.
Too bad for Joanna. While she was founding herself her husband became a single father while working a full time job. He's glad she could finally found herself after 18 soul searching months but it's unreasonable to want the kid back after that.
Because he’s my child. And because I love him. I know I left my son. I know that that’s a terrible thing to do. Believe me I have to live with that every day of my life. But in order to leave him, I had to believe that it was the only thing I could do. And that it was the best thing for him. I was incapable of functioning in that hombre and I didn’t know what the alternative was going to be so I thought it was not best that I take him with me.
However, I have since gotten some help, and I have worked very, very hard to become a whole human being. And I don’t think I should be punished for that. And I don’t think my little boy should be punished. Billy’s only seven years old. He needs me.
I’m not saying he doesn’t need his father, but I really believe he needs me more. I was his mommy for five and a half years. And Ted took over that role for eighteen months. But I don’t know how anyone can possibly believe that I have less of a stake in mothering that little boy than Mr. Kramer does. I’m his mother. I’m his mother.
Why do you write the lines?
@@ingridbecker7351 Why not?
That's what subtitles are for.
Doing terrible things have consequences. I never saw Joanna Kramer accept the idea that actions have consequences.
phillip F f maybe because Meryl wrote the monologue...
This movie fascinated me as a little girl. I loved it. It gave me a lot of insight of my parents own divorce. Made me understand that it doesn’t have to do with the kids, it’s about them.
Honestly it’s not just her words it her expressions the hint of tears on the verge of spilling over. That’s a very realistic of how a person feels and reacts. I think many of us can relate to that even if under different circumstances.
I don’t know why when I saw this scene for the first time the voice, the demeanour of Meryl Streep’s character reminded me of Princess Diana
Yes, but Princess Diana was a far better mother.
@@freddiemercury4evr
Indeed she was
I did this monologue for a drama class assignment and I just wish it was every bit as amazing as this was. She didn’t show much emotion in this in my opinion but i think that’s what makes it so heart-wrenching because she’s trying to make herself not seem vulnerable
What makes Meryl such a great actress is that she knows when to restrain her emotions in one scene and to know exactly when to elevate her emotions when it needs to for a scene. A lot of actors can really come off as either overacting or being too stiff if they don’t know how to emotionally balance out their scenes.
Maryl Streep is the best actress ever. 43 years ago she was 30 years old. Now she’s 73 and Dustin Hoffman is 85 years old
Meryl Streep is FANTASTIC.
She always is!
Best actress of our time
Her daughter Grace Gummer looks so much like the mom (Meryl Streep) in her youth.
Meryl Streep was so young in this and she won 3 Oscars and she has 21 oscar nominations under her belt! Meryl Streep is perfection and she can do anything!
She was about 30 when this movie was made. That wasn’t real young back then, more like approaching middle age.
Meryl Streep is an Amazing actress I love her... The fact she went away and left for a while she just needed some time away.
I’m amazed at how many people hate this character so much. She walked out of her home and son but then came back. She was mentally ill. Depressed. She needed help. She was only human. And by the end of the movie she was completely selfless and decided to give custody of her little boy to her ex husband.
Yeah, the husband was a jerk in the beginning, as well. He didn't care about his family and that was part of his journey in the film. At least her character had a real excuse.
Reeking bias.
As someone who saw their mother walk out the door, no warning, no looking back, dumping everything on Dad, I can tell you it was the worst year of my life and the worst year of my father's life.
She had many choices. She never tried any of them, she one day got up and went no contact. Just like Meryl Streep's character.
It is the most selfish thing a mother can do to a child. The psychological damage, the terror, the single parenthood without any help. Parents give up their rights to be selfish when they choose to bring a helpless child into the world, and it is the worst mistake to get up and walk out without a word.
@@morgan13756 Same thing happened to me with my dad. It was traumatizing. But as an adult, I really see him now as just a human being who had no clue about his own life.
My opinion on the movie and the character is still the same. I’ve experienced trauma too and that’s why I understand. I’m sorry you had to go through that too and I hope you’ve healed!
If anyone is judging any of these parents they are missing the whole point of the movie…..this movie is so brilliant because it recognises that life isn’t black and white, wrong or right…..it deals with the grey….that we’re all human beings and we make decisions in our lives based on how we feel, think, understand a thing at that time, that we makes decisions for what we feel justified, that we’re all flawed and imperfect…this movie deals with the reality of life….
I LOvE Meryl Streep but she was SO vindictive in this movie. Such a great performance.
I disagree with Vindictive , why would you label that?
I don't think you understand what the word vindictive means
@@kdohertygizbur I found her character vindictive. She wanted to see her son, she’s his mother sure but she pulled some bullshit.
It’s still a great performance, Meryl is legend but I just thought she was is all.
@@DHGlee2013 Vindictive would mean that she wanted to take her son in order to get back at her ex-husband, which is of course wasn't her motive. She wanted her son b/c she loved the son. Maybe selfish would be a better word? But in the end she changed her mind. So...
Meryl, the Queen of all actress, of all times.
Ooh. The time of that film my parents split up and we children had to choose which parent we wanted to stay with...
millions of men have done for years what streeps character did in the movie. and nobody has condemed them, they come back and get visiting rights to their kids years later and they get it, after the mother has spent years looking after the child.
one dad spend 18 months looking after a kid he probably spent very little with in the first seven years of his life, then he condems the mom. if she hadnt of left, do you think hoffman character would have spent that time with his son. probably not.
LadyScorpio39
and those men are maligned and condemned by the vast majority of society, as they should be, and as she should be.
The movie showed that regardless of gender, some people are more considerate and thoughtful parents while others are more selfish. Ted and Margaret were examples of men and women who were on the other end of inconsiderate selfish and unstable partners, and they were both examples of what a good father and a good mother look like
Dont be a hypocrite out of bitterness, she didnt want visitation rights, she wanted a custody she did not earn or deserve
Generic wamen throwing fragile tantrum after her overwhelming privileges are on display. Psychotic sociopathy at its "finest." QQ
Plus she is trying for FULL CUSTODY after leaving him and her son for a year and a half. No one is questioning her right to be a mother but you it was an absolutely selfish act to try and separate her child and his father after they had built a relationship and a home. It was simply not in the child's best interest.
Are you kidding? Men who abandoned their kids were famously called dead beat dads. Is there a similar term for moms? And many men are alienated from their children.
Well if one parent isn't spending that much time with their kid, normally it is because they are working a lot. Both working spouses and stay-at-home-with-the-child spouses are contributing to the better for the family. In today's land of no-fault divorces, it's much easier for wives to file for divorce and fleece the husband. Mothers normally win custody and fathers will miss a lot of their children's accomplishments. Fathers can't get those moments back. The bottom line is Mrs. Kramer had no business getting full custody, since she left her child. It sounded like they would work something out, where Mrs. Kramer wouldn't be completely absent from her son, which is a good thing. To say, that deadbeat dads haven't been condemned is completely wrong.
Very poignant speech
Mother's are flawed like fathers, parents are people, and even though separating oneself from your child might seem wrong, in the lesser of 2 evils it's the better scenario than a potentially worse alternative
she was so beautiful!
She is so damn beatiful
I haven't even watched it but I'm just watching scenes
That's why she a legend in Hollywood.
I love the way this movie ends but no spoilers.
I hate that mothers ALWAYS have an unfair advantage during custody battles
I know, right? It's so unfair. When our parents were separated, my mother got full custody of my sisters and I. It took months for my dad to get byond supervised visits and almost three years before we were allowed to stay at his house overnight, and that was only every other weekend. He was always fighting for 50-50 custody, and he never got it despite having an apartment, having a good job, and the fact that my sisters and I always wanted to spend more time with him. It makes my blood boil to think that so many other kids are wanting more time with their father because courts rule in favor of the women.
Such a great actress
1:55 "I'm his mother" YEAH YOU TELL 'EM!
Such a great movie.
Great actors!
Meryl is very real. Her character started as a victim, a sacrificed mother with a beated self-esteem and ended up as a selfish human being who thinks deserves anything she wants because now she found her self.
Dustin did great too. His character started as an ass, full of ego, lot of flaws and ended up growing up, fixing his flaws to take care of his kid and, of course, ended up as the victim (along with his son).
Note: For decades people saying a mother is a better parent just because of her gender, and giving her custody because of that; so many wrongs by that idea, for decades. Until this day, people keep that idea and they even say there're studies that prove that, when there's none. One of the many privileges of women that lot of them use in a very abusive way.
Lmao you’re an idiot
@@AngelaQi He stated the obvious and that's what you come up with to counter? Wow! No wonder!
You truly missed the whole point of the movie. You also must have missed the ending of the film. The Dad ends up with the son at his house but they share time with the son. How is this making the dad or child a victim? It’s the perfect solution and it comes because the Mom made three great decisions. Her first great decision was to leave when she was having a mental breakdown and could no longer function. It protected the child and, ultimately, made the Dad become a good father to his son. The second good decision was coming back, fighting for her kid. Kids need both parents if the parents are healthy. Her third great decision was to learn about how the dad had changed and to take that into account and allow the child to return to the father. Even the dad in this film recognized that he was as much at fault in this situation as she was and acknowledged it. This was a happy ending with the parents having regained respect for each other and the child having both parents in his life.
@@lauriebriggs9705 Did you not watch the movie? She abandoned her child. Left without saying goodbye to him. Then wanted to take him away from his father for herself. She wasn't going to let him have both of his parents. She needed counseling? Get counseling while still visiting your child. She took the selfish route all the way around. The only good thing she did was concede in the end and not traumatize her child a second time.
Excuse me... she was the one who left him alone to parent a little boy. If anything, this film is a perfect example of how children are affected by one or both parents putting their own selfish ambitions and desires before them.
Yeah, hell the scene when the boy cry’s out for her was heartbreaking, made me angry that she left him without a word and has the audacity to try and take him
This is why this movie is so Great ...it gives all sides
She did the right thing of leaving and seeking help. Imagine being her and in one moment you snap, and commit a heinous crime upon your child.
Yes, you birthed that boy. But what kind of a mother abandons her 6 year old son? What kind of adult would decide to leave his or her son than find help while remaining apart of their boys life??
ּEveryone should watch this film before and after they have children , it should be mandatory for divorce , I wonder why I never watched this movie
I DESPISED the character of Joanna. NO GOOD mother leaves her child.
Joanna is the epitome of self-centeredness. She abandoned her son, slept around and thinks she can just waltz back in and destroy his life. She tore up her mother card when she walked out.
self centeredness? she spent 7 years not being herself, feeling like crap jusst for her son...
@@dandy8058 Yes that's called self-centeredness. Self sacrifice is the opposite. It's what a real parent does for their children. You aren't entitled to be "your true self" when you have children. You are required to sacrifice for them. It's not about you anymore.
@@sallybucket6924 why is it when a mom does that she gets called self centered and a terrible parent? but when the dad spends 8 years basically not knowing his son and being absent, only to bond with him when the mom leaves, he doesn't get as much judgement as her? I honestly understand her. yes what she did was wrong, but you got to consider the life she had before she left. it must be like hell to give up everything you are, everything you can do for a marriage
Sally Bucket the clown in chief at the traveling circus 🤡 CLOWN
I agree 1000%!
All that! ...(And she changes her mind again).Ends up winning her little boy back, but than at the end returns him back to the father anyway .
Never seen this movie but just with this clip i I felt everything she was saying. I have a 6 month old and omg. 🥰🥰🥰🥰❤❤
"I have worked very hard to become a whole human being". What a load of California bullshit. I'd have tossed her case out of court right then and there.
They didn't have shared custody back then?
So this proves that It takes jus under two minutes to say a human story of pathos. Incredible !!
She was gorgeous omgggg
This looks so much real than Amber Heard's fake/terrible acting in court against Johnny Depp.
父親が二役やればいい。
Dustin Hoffmanさんは、"Tootsie"で除草薬じゃなくて女装役もうまく演じてた。
"Rain Man"では、savant syndromeの特徴っぽい雰囲気もうまく醸し出してた。
UKrainerいうたら、UKのrain manの隠語みたいな用法？と感じるときもある2022.5
どうしたいか、子どもの意見も聞いてほしいと思うけど、選択肢の情報も少ないし、実際にも選択肢が用意されていないことが多いのは昔も今も変わらなさそう。
Maryl Streep looks very very young back then.
Well she wasn’t always old
She was 32 years old
She left him for cosmo! And then she found out that he run out with Jerry’s food!
She walks out and suddenly she comes back, she can't come back and playing the mom card, she should had taken the kid with her.
You can’t just say that millions of men of done that but also million’s women as done that as well. In most cases it will end up with the court awarding custody to the mother instead of the father who took care of him or her. Take a look at the mother in Liar Liar is obviously that the mother doesn’t care about the kids and care that the money and who see that kids where sort of life and that guy was a CEO.
I can't stand Dustin anymore....He slapped her in the hallway scene....He really slapped her on the cheek!Hard....In the cort scene he was saying name of her boyfriend that died one month earlier.....That is why the scene is so emotional....But still that doesn't give him a right to slapp her.....
"Before the take, Dustin had gone over to the witness stand to talk to Meryl. He needed her to implode on-camera, and he knew the magic words to make it happen: “John Cazale.” Out of Benton’s earshot, he started whispering the name in her ear, planting the seeds of anguish, as he had in the elevator scene. He knew she wasn’t over the loss. [...] Now, with a fat finger waving three inches from her face, Meryl heard the words “Were you a failure at the one most important relationship in your life?” Her eyes watered. Her lips tensed. Dustin had instructed her to look at him when she heard that line. When she did, he gave a little shake of his head, as if to say, “No, Meryl, you weren’t a failure.”"
Doubly wrong to physically and emotionally abuse men. There's far more justice in punishing misandrists. QQ
That crazy fact is that she obtained the custody.
I mean,she walked away but she “won” anyway...
I love her but I couldn't agree with her line if argument, for all the time she was Billy's mother, Kramer was his father and for the last 15 month he has been a father and a mother to their son so if he thinks he has more right , he is correct.
She was her sons primary caretaker for those years while Hoffman’s character built his illustrious career. Do you know how often that happens? That’s why she was mentally ill & suicidal. It was all on her.
It was one thing to move out but she completely abounded her son. She could have moved in with a friend or ask Ted to move out. She completely abonded Billy.
Aww she misses Bumper
Many mothers really do Suck at it.
And MANY more fathers suck at it.
God forgive the mothers who try
This movie belongs to a sellected group of movies, that had a huge role around the globe promoting and normalizing divorce and gynocentric family law reforms, aimed at incentivizing women to initiate their divorces (more than 90% of divorces are initiated by women) and deter men from marrying altogether.
It's a great movie, i know.
I hate Dustin Hoffmann for the way he treated Meryl in this movie, especially in this particular scene. I hate him so much.
He was a good Dad when the kid needed him. She sucked and left the kid. Unstable biatch. Mothers are overrated.
I hope you’re not saying you hate Dustin himself. This was a character he was playing. That doesn’t mean he’s like this on real life.
Brooke Hanley Mothers are overrated?? I understand fathers are underrated but that doesn't mean mothers are overrated. Sacrificing your life so that you can devote yourself to your son is overrated (that's what my mother did) ? I don't think so
Do you all get it that he was saying name of her dead boyfriend in her ear?In the hallway scene he fricking slapped her so she would be more "sad"....He is a terrrible person...He couldn't keep his emotions in because of his wife he got divorced from couple months earlier....He is a jerk..I said it...
@@brookehanley3659 No mothers are not overrated.
I'VE ABANDONED MY CHILD
I'VE ABANDONED MY BOY
There Will Be Blood
her second oscar winning
Her first and it was best supporting actress.
Second Oscar nomination after deer hunter. First win tho
But too late u walked out on them especially you Joanna.. Even though your the mother you should have thought about not leaving you should have done better by being strong. it shld be u not gting him it should be Ted because Billy loves his father more. but at the end is complicated just saying
Ceptain Dames Nosh DMS DRS DRSBN,
November 27th, 1928 ~ February 15th, 1979.
masterpiece film ❤
I was a child 6 and sister 3 of my parent's ugly divorce. By Australian Law my Mother had to move from House and rent share with friends ect and prove worked to support for a full 12 months. She DID! Was awarded sole custody and NEVER, EVER STOPPED WORKING! My Dad was SELF-EMPLOYED made much more money but was abusive-alcoholic before, during and after. My Mother deserved her children BACK THE HARD WAY. Meryl's character is pathetic, she has a husband earning good income but herself get's lost in space of her own making. The children suffer the most. Meryl the Creep! Deservedly a Dad/Father assume's responsibility and suceed's certainly worthy of custody than his flakey wife.
Alway's very glad My Mum got us back, but in this movie's case isnt truly reflective of it all except to say the Father went through the wrangler to support his kid and eventually succeeded but his estranged wife was a total dipshit!!!
Anybody that leave there kid dosnt diserved custody of the boy he was more of a father in this 15 months then she ever was
She looks beautiful 😍💖, still today
I'm his mother 👩
she looks like Sophie Turner
Dustin Hoffman as Mr Kramer earned the right as Father, Meryl Streep as Mrs Kramer lost the plot
I can do that. We all can. Just not on film.
I kinda feel like, in this movie, everyone sucks hear
Get a life
"you must believe her
Why??
Because she is a WOMAN"
And you call it EQUALITY?
What about a man who loves his family??
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is the dad go to win
She loves his son now that she is earning money ...but what did she think when she left
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Children custody should given to the mother. And the Government or State every where in the world has the obligation to protect single mothers until her son and / or daughter reach 18. and obligate fathers to support them. :D
Why?
Even if the mother abandoned the kid once? Who says she won't do it again. There are some cases where the father is better qualified to care for the child.
MANY cases.
what if the child want to tell the mother screw you for bailing in front of the court
@@brookehanley3659 No not many cases, some cases.
1979-2019
agn i am not jewish etc., agn ppl will find the quirky odd numbercentric , sexualization, mocking disturbing glorification of assaulting ppl, much like bhutto, a teenager with newborn in nursery not very amusing
boring movie.
Actually, I consider it educational
cuz you're a brain dead
ur kinda right... but it's real.... everybody can relate to it.
When this movie came out the character of Joanna was despised by everyone as a selfish coward, because that's what she was.
I am Sam brought me here.
She overpowers hoffman with this scene only.
I don't think so. Both were excellent with their acting.