MAFEX Venom Amazing Spider-Man Marvel Comic Import 6 Inch Action Figure Review

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  • Опубліковано 12 січ 2025

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  • @SageBengal4382
    @SageBengal4382 5 років тому +292

    The venom Character Mafex was trying to portray (CLASSIC Venom) didn't originally have a tongue... That is why they didn't give him a head with a tongue coming out

    • @joelstuart3464
      @joelstuart3464 5 років тому +35

      Yeah thats also why he's more spidermans size not big and bulky .

    • @ravenamber890
      @ravenamber890 5 років тому +11

      Tried and failed. McFarlane's Venom was bulkier and bigger. This figure looks like a cosplayer.

    • @SymbiSpidey
      @SymbiSpidey 5 років тому +45

      @@ravenamber890 Eh...Venom was bigger only by a little. He was more bulky than Spider-Man than anything.

    • @gagecrawley6223
      @gagecrawley6223 5 років тому +43

      I’m rather glad this figure isn’t very huge and doesn’t have the long tongue. I was getting kinda tired of Venom figures having over exaggerated features. I know it all depends on the artist, and which form is more popular, but personally, I’m really digging this choice of design for Venom.

    • @SageBengal4382
      @SageBengal4382 5 років тому +9

      @@gagecrawley6223 I honestly agree with you... They need to mix up the designs more with Venom characters!

  • @SHA-cj7wg
    @SHA-cj7wg 5 років тому +229

    The figure is basted more around his first appearance so no huge tongue.

    • @Todn_Hamekul
      @Todn_Hamekul 5 років тому +7

      indeed!

    • @MeYou-yi7ce
      @MeYou-yi7ce 5 років тому +3

      Finally

    • @ColdTRex
      @ColdTRex 5 років тому +14

      And thats why its not so huge

    • @NTEDOG561
      @NTEDOG561 5 років тому +4

      @@ColdTRex wrong even in his first appearance he was huge!

    • @MeYou-yi7ce
      @MeYou-yi7ce 5 років тому

      Still like the big venom but still this is a nice figure

  • @giannilmao
    @giannilmao 5 років тому +122

    this is my favorite Venom figure mainly because its ripped right out of his first appearance. I'm not really a huge fan of a big hulking Venom from the later years.
    edit: Venom didn't originally have a big tongue

    • @xaayer
      @xaayer 5 років тому +11

      He was still large. Eddie was a body builder

    • @giannilmao
      @giannilmao 5 років тому +12

      xaayer this figure is still bigger in terms of muscle than spidey, and I know Eddie was a body builder

    • @giannilmao
      @giannilmao 5 років тому +2

      Gabriel Motok now thats up to u. I don't think the price is very fair tho tbh

    • @rippl5620
      @rippl5620 4 роки тому +2

      For 80 bucks you get a puny venom

    • @ZinxTheSlayer
      @ZinxTheSlayer 4 роки тому

      @@rippl5620 for 80 bucks you can get a puny LOOKING venom who can still lift a bus and throw it at you if you make him mad!

  • @lonzoball1960
    @lonzoball1960 5 років тому +23

    Actually in 1989 and 1990 Venom was around the same height as Spider-Man but just more muscular, this figure is very accurate to the first appearance version of him

    • @loungeduck6583
      @loungeduck6583 Рік тому +1

      Nah
      First appearance Venom maintained Eddie's same height, so he was 6'3, while Peter is/was 5'10. Big difference buddy.

  • @Pointbreak1028
    @Pointbreak1028 5 років тому +204

    We need a Mafex Carnage figure. I bet that would be amazing!

    • @shockblast20
      @shockblast20 5 років тому +26

      The Revoltech one would hard to beat and I doubt Mafex could. Revoltech Carnage works great in Marvel Legends because his joints are well hidden.

    • @Pointbreak1028
      @Pointbreak1028 5 років тому +3

      Scourge88 I agree.

    • @sagekuragi9770
      @sagekuragi9770 5 років тому +5

      Revoltech's definitive

    • @DynoLegoOriginal
      @DynoLegoOriginal 5 років тому +5

      I don't think any company will be able to top the Revoltech Carnage

    • @DarthEnigma13
      @DarthEnigma13 5 років тому

      @@shockblast20 hear, hear!

  • @datto240z
    @datto240z 5 років тому +52

    Shiiiii..thats the best Venom figure! The ORIGINAL design is the best and this portrays that perfectly.

    • @EarthsGeomancer
      @EarthsGeomancer 5 років тому +3

      The Select version is better, IMO.

    • @Chris.P.Bacon7
      @Chris.P.Bacon7 3 роки тому +1

      @@EarthsGeomancer which one? the one with multiple heads?

    • @chrispy2863
      @chrispy2863 2 роки тому

      @@EarthsGeomancer the one with multiple heads is amazing but the articulation pretty bad

  • @noushinpajouhesh6873
    @noushinpajouhesh6873 5 років тому +13

    The Mafex Venom and the mafex comic version spider man are the classic duo.

  • @bluevegito-6979
    @bluevegito-6979 5 років тому +78

    We need a black suit Mafex spiderman

    • @BrazilBoi55
      @BrazilBoi55 5 років тому +7

      Bluevegito 69 give it time we’ll probably be getting a bunch of comic suits from them due to the popularity from their spidey figs. Id love if they also made a scarlet spider and a spider armor MK 1

    • @brandonmeister9639
      @brandonmeister9639 5 років тому +3

      Classic symbiote and a superior spiderman would be awesome

    • @venynengsi2909
      @venynengsi2909 5 років тому

      keren banget bang

    • @jake4006
      @jake4006 4 роки тому +1

      @@BrazilBoi55 their making a Ben Reilly rn

    • @activejetz
      @activejetz 3 роки тому

      Got your wish

  • @k.bermejo7334
    @k.bermejo7334 5 років тому +20

    Uhm no, this figure is based of off nothing but McFarlane's art. That's also the reason why the figure doesn't have a headsculpt with his tongue all out.
    But still, its unfortunate that he lacks that headsculpt and he is quite small.

    • @pigeonboy7696
      @pigeonboy7696 4 роки тому +1

      and bagley

    • @sitafuller497
      @sitafuller497 9 місяців тому

      ​@@pigeonboy7696No. He is based co pletely on Mcfarlane. Bagleys art does not look like that.

  • @gagecrawley6223
    @gagecrawley6223 5 років тому +8

    This is the Venom figure I have been waiting for! Because when it came to most Venom figures, I wasn’t exactly satisfied with them. But now that we have this, i think my search is over. Finally over. Not only is this Venom design pedi after the classic Todd McFarlane Venom, but we get a lot of accessories with this guy. The extra hands, the webs, the extra feet, the extra heads, and of course...we finally get a perfect Eddie Brock head! Normally, they’re either oversized or look like one of Jeff Dunham’s puppets, but we finally get a normal looking and normal sized head.
    By the way, I’m really glad that we don’t get a long tongue with this figure. In fact, I’m glad this Venom figure doesn’t have any over exaggerated features, such as roid rage musculature and that long as Hell tongue. We finally get a classic Venom figure, for once. And that is a win in my book.

  • @shonokrohan9145
    @shonokrohan9145 5 років тому +25

    how come there was no comparison with Marvel Select Venom ?
    ....which is still the best imo !!

    • @endertron3282
      @endertron3282 5 років тому +3

      Yep. Select has better accesories (if we count both versions: the Original and Disney exclusive) and more details

  • @Cenazinosaur04
    @Cenazinosaur04 5 років тому +9

    This is classic Venom. He doesn’t have a tongue yet.

  • @SpoonDude
    @SpoonDude 5 років тому +37

    Both heads seem like they’re based on McFarlane tbh

  • @StJimmy89
    @StJimmy89 5 років тому +26

    Yeah dude, you forgot about the Marvel Select Venom!

  • @hanksterm9255
    @hanksterm9255 5 років тому +8

    It's Mcfarlanes first appearance venom, no tongue for you sir!

  • @rafavaldes4372
    @rafavaldes4372 5 років тому +3

    The light blue shading on the Venom figure is similar to the blue shading in the 80s spiderman series

  • @lofutofu6477
    @lofutofu6477 5 років тому +7

    He’s smaller because he’s supposed to look like his first appearance, back when he was just an average buff dude with a black suit

  • @bennruda11
    @bennruda11 5 років тому +31

    Screw the tongue sticking out, that's the worst thing about venom. It is more an original true venom look.

    • @ZinxTheSlayer
      @ZinxTheSlayer 4 роки тому +2

      I like sculpts that don't have a tongue sticking out (im fine with it if they give you options) I like the tongues not sticking out because usually it gets in the way of the head articulation

    • @Cr_cker
      @Cr_cker 4 роки тому

      Finally! A fan that supports the classics

    • @Kwonnn7
      @Kwonnn7 4 роки тому +1

      I like the venom with no tounge but do you guys know the original venom has a long tongue? In the comics this is a comic version

    • @sitafuller497
      @sitafuller497 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Kwonnn7No the original Venom first appearance does not have a tongue at all.

  • @JeremiahJS1984
    @JeremiahJS1984 5 років тому +9

    We need a MAFEX Captain America!!!

    • @nickw3132
      @nickw3132 5 років тому +1

      Jeremy James also a daredevil, iron man, Thor, black panther 👍🏻

  • @barrycurts2505
    @barrycurts2505 5 років тому +4

    HOW DOES SHARTIMUS NOT EVEN HAVE ONE MILLION SUBSCRIBERS

  • @Kyle-pg4pn
    @Kyle-pg4pn 2 роки тому +1

    I love this figure it’s simple and accurate also the theme is really nice of the cartoon comic style which gives you the feel that it’s came right out your comic book, the webs give a very good cartoony style aswell !

  • @TeaGamingPanda
    @TeaGamingPanda 5 років тому +3

    Thank you Shartimus for another beautiful brilliant review. Kinda feels weird that you uploaded a certain review near the same time as everyone else, but pretty sure you’re very busy and getting figures (especially from other countries like Japan) are quite difficult or long to arrive. Which I say hopefully you aren’t pressuring yourself and just relaxing!

  • @ActionBoy27
    @ActionBoy27 5 років тому +11

    this is the best venom figure and it’s not even close

    • @ArachnidYouth
      @ArachnidYouth 5 років тому +1

      It's based on his very first appearance

  • @noushinpajouhesh6873
    @noushinpajouhesh6873 4 роки тому +1

    Back then when Venom was first created, it wasn’t that much bigger than spidey, I think it’s a good size

    • @Sam-yl5tt
      @Sam-yl5tt 4 роки тому +1

      DM ComicArt he was smaller back then compared to how he is now, but he was never *that* small

  • @Prowl76
    @Prowl76 5 років тому +5

    Early in his career as Venom, he wasn't supposed to be much taller than Spider-Man. Why else would Mary Jane think he was Peter at the end of Amazing Spider-Man #299?

  • @chiharutahara2698
    @chiharutahara2698 5 років тому +4

    i give it of rating of:.. I love IT so much! posing this figure is FUN!

  • @mikey9906
    @mikey9906 5 років тому +15

    I am surprised u didnt show the marvel select Venom, I think that Venom is the best

    • @ShartimusPrime
      @ShartimusPrime  5 років тому +2

      GIVE IT ANKLE PIVOT!!!! And then we'll see.

    • @2067792332977602
      @2067792332977602 5 років тому

      @@ShartimusPrime Shartimus you have to try this custom, crack a classic venom (the one with the button on his back), heat up the select venom legs and pop them out and replace them with the classic venom legs, the pegs will fit perfectly. Nothing else to do, this a custom that fools proof. Trust me, best Venom figure ever. Way better-looking legs and range.

  • @thatocarinaguy
    @thatocarinaguy 5 років тому +1

    I had that neck peg problem with the Mafex Comic Spidey. My solution for that was to heat it up to remove it, then attach it the other way (so now the ball that was going into the head is going into the neck itself)
    I guess that side was slightly bigger because now it's stuck to the neck the way it should be and I can swap the masked heads with no problems. Maybe this trick will also work with the Venom (I haven't gotten mine yet)

  • @Mr.Ebony7
    @Mr.Ebony7 5 років тому +3

    The reason why they went with a skinny look in venom because they took the og look for him when he was not much bigger than Spider-Man back in his first comic books when he was black and blue

    • @greenlanternbobo
      @greenlanternbobo 5 років тому +1

      Venom was always huge!!
      readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Amazing-Spider-Man-1963/Issue-300?id=4535

    • @cajunbatman
      @cajunbatman 5 років тому

      @@greenlanternbobo Your evidence justifies the size of the figure, so I don't get your point.

    • @greenlanternbobo
      @greenlanternbobo 5 років тому

      @@cajunbatman did I miss what he was stating? I just provided the complete comic showing he was always huge. Not not much bigger than spiderman.

    • @cajunbatman
      @cajunbatman 5 років тому +2

      @@greenlanternbobo Oh ok. I thought you were trying to say that the figure was too small.

    • @greenlanternbobo
      @greenlanternbobo 5 років тому

      @@cajunbatman lol. It's ok, you had me rereading what I did.

  • @yospiderz1574
    @yospiderz1574 5 років тому +5

    I was waiting for you to review this

  • @johnwaff7196
    @johnwaff7196 5 років тому

    Congratz on 500k shart!

  • @tombowling2805
    @tombowling2805 5 років тому +7

    Hmmm... not too gappy. Could this be my first MAFEX figure?

  • @luisabalos1973
    @luisabalos1973 5 років тому +3

    Great review bro! I like Revoltech's figure better but Mafex's figure is very good to, it is also the same as comic.

  • @vigorthecharacter4396
    @vigorthecharacter4396 5 років тому +2

    yeah that's because it's based on the 80s appearance
    not modern appearance

  • @CorporateBillionaire
    @CorporateBillionaire 5 років тому +1

    The Marvel Select Venom is still my favourite Venom figure out there.

  • @thebatwholaughs3168
    @thebatwholaughs3168 5 років тому

    I think it’s almost perfect for a classic venom can’t wait to get it in handI love the magnet hands and feet gonna have a lot of fun with it

  • @Dave2LA
    @Dave2LA 5 років тому +1

    Its Todd McFarlane in both heads. And that’s a first appearance venom.

  • @DrunkSolidSnake
    @DrunkSolidSnake 5 років тому +1

    Most of your disappointments are my highlights.
    I love the first appearance Venom without the tongue or the tendrils.
    Early Venom wasn't too much larger than Spidey either.
    He was just a buffer, evil Spider-Man.

  • @threesullivan1364
    @threesullivan1364 3 роки тому

    This is prob one of the best venom figures I've seen I like it cause its like in the shows and movies like the size is a pretty good size especially when your trying to put it on a figure stand

  • @Fourexponent
    @Fourexponent 4 роки тому

    Shartimus: Toybiz Venom is still my all time favorite Venom
    Venom pool wave Venom: im about to end this mans whole career

  • @marko4807
    @marko4807 5 років тому +1

    I don't understand what they said in the Venom party

  • @theonionfromshrek340
    @theonionfromshrek340 5 років тому +2

    This one reminds me of the one from the TV show

  • @alterclark1
    @alterclark1 5 років тому

    Gr8 review! Marvel Select Venom is still my fav

  • @pinoycuz125
    @pinoycuz125 5 років тому

    Maybe you can do a head swap with a Kraven to kind of duplicate that time he stole the black suit, since he’s just a smidge taller than Spidey and slightly bulkier

  • @cyclopsegg4735
    @cyclopsegg4735 5 років тому

    what if u removed the eddie brock head from the eddie brock neck and put on the peter parker headsculpt from the mafex spider-man?

  • @CrustyMlf
    @CrustyMlf 4 роки тому

    I like how solid the coloring is and also the Classic venom didn’t have a tongue but I just love it because the bigger ones all though I love them I feel like sometimes they’re doing too much this one is just settle and I love it 😁 great review 😃

  • @joefun-tech6496
    @joefun-tech6496 5 років тому +2

    I would love a Sam raime (correct me if that’s spelled wrong) mafex figure. Also a comic book symbiotic Spider-Man!

  • @boaaa82
    @boaaa82 5 років тому +1

    I’m more bummed about Eddie not having he’s mullet on this figure

  • @alekhidell4925
    @alekhidell4925 5 років тому

    I'm really loving mine. Size isn't a big deal he's great guys.. granted I'm an oldie at 36 years old but this figure with Mafex Spidey is excellent. Poses too damn good. Stronger magnets for certain. no tongue is no biggie, eh. But guys this is it for a first appearance version. This figure is the tops. Other than that no QC issues for mine. Just awesome.

  • @tripleclutch758
    @tripleclutch758 5 років тому +1

    I think they should've given a venom head with no mouth like when they first met

  • @jairosanchez3282
    @jairosanchez3282 5 років тому

    Reminds me of the colorway from the red hulk baf wave black suited Spider-Man

  • @foodank_atr817
    @foodank_atr817 5 років тому

    Geeze thats a lot of issues and asides for a fig at that price point. Think I'll stay with all my Legends...
    I haven't seen many poses with a Mafex or Figuarts that I couldn't get with a Legends.
    But I would seriously consider trading all 5 shelves of Legends for a full Figuarts X-Men/Villains lineup.

  • @izakstevenson3764
    @izakstevenson3764 5 років тому

    That you shartimus I have been wanting to see you review this.

  • @user-mi9iv7sg9q
    @user-mi9iv7sg9q 5 років тому

    Ceep up the good work also I've been a fan for 8 years and I still love the vids

  • @sidearmsalpha
    @sidearmsalpha 4 роки тому

    Wish they would do a line for the CAPCOM fighting game MARVEL characters. I want a Psylocke that's game accurate.

  • @themagicalspider4407
    @themagicalspider4407 5 років тому

    Also in his first appearence he wasnt much taller than spiderman, he was just a little bit taller than him

  • @Monkeyboy-g3l
    @Monkeyboy-g3l Рік тому

    Can you please do a review on the Amazon version please 🙏🙏🙏

  • @detectiveluck2899
    @detectiveluck2899 4 роки тому

    Hope we get a Green Goblin or Hobgoblin Mafex Figure.

  • @tryksta7247
    @tryksta7247 5 років тому

    Surprisided Mark Bagley art was used when this is clearly a first appearance/McFarlane-based Venom

  • @Borgantroi
    @Borgantroi 5 років тому

    I hope they do a greengoblin or hobgoblin in this line that would be awesome

  • @Samridh_art
    @Samridh_art 5 років тому

    I actually really like this,but wish it was taller
    I really love the design

  • @itsnotairmac3800
    @itsnotairmac3800 5 років тому

    Whoa that figure looks awesome!

  • @Spider-boy229
    @Spider-boy229 7 місяців тому

    This is the todd mcfarlane venom this version of venom was supposed to be the same height as spiderman in the original comic

  • @marcosbetancourt358
    @marcosbetancourt358 5 років тому

    The Venom party though 🤣

  • @impossiblepie
    @impossiblepie 5 років тому

    Figure should definitely be taller and bigger. Not a bad figure, all artwork on the box is Bagley and Larsen, figure is all McFarlane. The price is ridiculous not worth it. Would've like a size comparison with the marvel select figure.

  • @TherealGM4NN
    @TherealGM4NN 3 роки тому

    It’s cool but like he said it should’ve had more of a bulkier type of physique like super vegeta from Dbz and the long tongue

  • @andrevalencia7571
    @andrevalencia7571 2 роки тому

    How do you change venom alt heads? Mine’s just like yours the peg just keep on sticking to the head. It sucks

  • @PyroPuffs777
    @PyroPuffs777 5 років тому

    How does the revoltech Venom look compared to the Monster Venom BAF?

  • @KeeperPlus
    @KeeperPlus 2 роки тому

    This is how venom was originally. Not monsterious. I like this style better

  • @sabianescoo
    @sabianescoo 5 років тому

    Can’t wait to get this fig just ordered from Japan so hype!!

  • @matevenodos
    @matevenodos 5 років тому

    For the money leastwise in my opinion the Marvel Select Venom is still superior considering all you get for the money very surprised it wasnt given a mention !

  • @emeraldviolet2001
    @emeraldviolet2001 2 роки тому

    There is no head with the tongue sticking out because this design is the original Macfarlane Venom, before Mark Bagleys design added the tongue. It would not be proper or canon to have a tongue-out head with the macfarlane original design.

  • @scragbyterc1059
    @scragbyterc1059 5 років тому +5

    It’s accurate in size for the McFarland Venom.

  • @web-linez4436
    @web-linez4436 5 років тому +10

    Nah this is the best venom we got.

  • @darkrenagadef50
    @darkrenagadef50 5 років тому

    The Mafex Venom is based more so on McFarlane's take on the character, I'll be a little disappointed if my copy of the figure has that stupid neck ball peg problem... seems maybe heating it could fix the problem... maybe? in any case I think this figure will be my all time favorite next to the Marvel Select Venom we got a few years back great review, Shartimus!

  • @vincentcuatzo4141
    @vincentcuatzo4141 5 років тому +1

    Were do you get one

  • @timonx11
    @timonx11 5 років тому

    My head join stuck in there too.. any idea how to fix it? Thx

  • @p.6563
    @p.6563 5 років тому

    Hooray lol, i asked about this last video assuming you already were going to review this

  • @sabianescoo
    @sabianescoo 5 років тому

    No monster venom baf comparison?

  • @corawatts5975
    @corawatts5975 5 років тому

    Yeah could be a little bigger, but the diamond select venom is the best venom to date period.

  • @jakestyles1745
    @jakestyles1745 5 років тому

    Awesome review bro

  • @burntcheeseproductions6573
    @burntcheeseproductions6573 4 роки тому

    I like when venom is bigger than spiderman but I personally am not a big fan of hulk sized venoms

  • @tatiana-gg5tc
    @tatiana-gg5tc 3 роки тому

    I wish I could afford stuff like this I love spider man and venom

  • @eag_illustration
    @eag_illustration 4 роки тому

    That’s a Todd McFarland venom and he said that he didn’t agree with the whole venom tough idea

  • @jacobwright238
    @jacobwright238 2 роки тому

    The classic venom didn't ever show his tongue.

  • @jacobolson7593
    @jacobolson7593 5 років тому +1

    It's my birthday in 9 days

  • @noobontt2216
    @noobontt2216 5 років тому

    I understand that venom should be larger but I like it.

  • @juliocabral6949
    @juliocabral6949 5 років тому +4

    I am sure everyone have pointes this before but...Venom wasn't that big when he first showed up.

  • @MaSoisSoful
    @MaSoisSoful 4 роки тому

    I was wondering why this didn’t come with a sticking tongue head sculpt.

    • @Sam-yl5tt
      @Sam-yl5tt 4 роки тому

      carlos lima this figure is based on Venom’s first ever appearance. Back then he had no tongue

    • @MaSoisSoful
      @MaSoisSoful 4 роки тому

      Sam Oh Ok. Great! Thank you for the info!

  • @crash5delee998
    @crash5delee998 2 роки тому

    They forgot the black dot on the hands😢

  • @Healingovertime
    @Healingovertime 5 років тому

    @Shartimus I’m a big fan of your page and I just wanted to know where do you get your figure stands for your Marvel Legends? because the ones I get from Amazon aren’t able to hold the figure up by the thigh for cool flying poses other than that keep posting that heat for the culture bro

  • @izakstevenson3764
    @izakstevenson3764 5 років тому

    Ha shartimus I found a ice man today with no line throw its face

  • @GTK_5635
    @GTK_5635 5 років тому

    Nice figure gotta ask what is your favorite symbiote

  • @listenmusic-sp8kt
    @listenmusic-sp8kt 5 років тому

    Been waiting on this one 🔥

  • @brandonnetwork
    @brandonnetwork 4 роки тому

    Even for a McFarlane based Venom, this figure is still a bit lacking. They could’ve at least made him even bulkier.

  • @TheDeathOfLucifer
    @TheDeathOfLucifer 3 роки тому

    Tbh theres enough venoms with the tongue out so its not a big issue to me. Also there's so many bulky venoms so the size is fine too.

  • @the7percentsolution
    @the7percentsolution 5 років тому

    I still prefer the Diamond Select Venom. It just seems like the right size compared to the Marvel Legends figures.

  • @mrthorsstone1241
    @mrthorsstone1241 5 років тому

    This tells me that Mafex shouldn't make/release two figures at the same time. Their Venom is kind of underwhelming while Aquaman kicks more ass than a 6 legged ass kicking machine with the Kick-Ass dial set to 11.

  • @bryanvazquez7533
    @bryanvazquez7533 3 роки тому

    I do agree he is a bit small but he shouldn’t be huge either maybe like a inch bigger or so

  • @teddy.g.coastmusic
    @teddy.g.coastmusic 5 років тому

    you can't gripe about something that was never there....its based off the original appearance. The tongue sticking out isn't really his iconic look. And as far as color consistency goes, its not a suit of material. Its a living entity which is always shifting and changing. Realistically, one side won't ever match the other